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No, not the stories per se. @DB I want to see proof the Trump campaign paid for them. @jmyrlefuller
Trump and Enquirer CEO David Pecker were involved in a massive scheme to smear Republican primary opponents and quash accusations against Trump with "catch-and-kill" tactics. Hundreds of thousands of dollars were exchanged.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/dec/12/national-enquirer-trump-payments-david-pecker-catch-and-kill
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That was Roger Stone, Trump's good friend. They purposely obscured who paid for what. Trump went on to quote it by saying "some people say". It was all very sleazy. Disgusting really.
And Roger Stone was a paid employee of the Trump campaign right up until the month the catch-and-kill payments started. So if they originated with Stone, Trump paid for them.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/25/politics/fact-check-trump-stone-campaign-2016/index.html
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Liar.

@Right_in_Virginia

WTF?

This and all other internet boards are for people to  express their OPINIONS.

Just because you  or I may disagree with their OPINION,does NOT mean  they  are lying.

Anyone who isn't paranoid in 2021 just isn't thinking clearly!

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No, it was the lying fascist Democrat-policy-supporting, deficit-breaking, protectionist, Trump-loving dickheads that did it.

@Hoodat

You shouldn't smoke crack and drink whiskey when posting.
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Do I need to pull up all the Enquirer covers Trump's campaign paid for? Because there are receipts...

@jmyrlefuller

How would YOU get receipts from the Enquirer?

Do  you work for them?
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@Hoodat

You shouldn't smoke crack and drink whiskey when posting.

I haven't had a drink since 1984, and I wouldn't waste good coke by smoking it.
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How would YOU get receipts from the Enquirer?

Do  you work for them?
It's a figure of speech. "We have the receipts" is millennial slang for "we have evidence that what you said wasn't true." (It comes from retail, when cashiers have to ask for receipts to get their money back for a returned item.)

@Right_in_Virginia said that people who bring up Trump's slanderous lies against Cruz were liars... so when I say "we have the receipts" it means that we have the smears that Trump's campaign launched against Cruz.
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It's a figure of speech. "We have the receipts" is millennial slang for "we have evidence that what you said wasn't true." (It comes from retail, when cashiers have to ask for receipts to get their money back for a returned item.)

@Right_in_Virginia said that people who bring up Trump's slanderous lies against Cruz were liars... so when I say "we have the receipts" it means that we have the smears that Trump's campaign launched against Cruz.

@jmyrlefuller

Cruz is never going to  run for President,period.

Which is,IMNSHO,a damn  shame. He may  be the smartest politician in DC,and if you  piss him off,he WILL come after you.
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You forget the GOP was on its deathbed in 2015/2016 until Trump. 

Nope

From early 2016


https://www.npr.org/2016/03/04/469052020/the-democratic-party-got-crushed-during-the-obama-presidency-heres-why

When Obama took office, there were 60 Democratic senators; now there are 46. The number of House seats held by Democrats has shrunk from 257 to 188.

There are now nine fewer Democratic governors than in 2009. Democrats currently hold fewer elected offices nationwide than at any time since the 1920s.






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I haven't had a drink since 1984, and I wouldn't waste good coke by smoking it.

Good for you @Hoodat !

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Good for you @Hoodat !

wait... which part, the not drinking, or the not wasting good coke?  :silly: :tongue2:

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wait... which part, the not drinking, or the not wasting good coke?  :silly: :tongue2:

 :laugh: 22222frying pan  I knew I should have been more specific.

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And here is after the 2018 midterms. Democrats also handily captured the HOR in the 2018 midterms by making the election a referendum on Trump.

https://www.npr.org/2019/12/10/785603938/chart-democratic-governors-make-a-big-comeback-under-trump

But now Democrats are seeing their fates flip across the country in a rebuke to Trump. Last month, Democrat Andy Beshear defeated Kentucky Republican Gov. Matt Bevin in a state Trump carried by 30 points. With Beshear's inauguration on Tuesday, Democrats are returning to near-parity with their GOP counterparts when it comes to gubernatorial control — 26 Republicans and 24 Democrats.

So the state of the republican party, and its electability, has deteriorated in the era of  Trump
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Nope

From early 2016


https://www.npr.org/2016/03/04/469052020/the-democratic-party-got-crushed-during-the-obama-presidency-heres-why

When Obama took office, there were 60 Democratic senators; now there are 46. The number of House seats held by Democrats has shrunk from 257 to 188.

There are now nine fewer Democratic governors than in 2009. Democrats currently hold fewer elected offices nationwide than at any time since the 1920s.



Yeah, it's just ignorant to say that the GOP was on its deathbed before Trump.  We had 54 seats in the Senate and 247 seats in the House in 2015-16.  Trump actually had negative coattails in 2016, which is extremely rare for a first term president. We lost seats in both the Senate and House in the 2016 election.

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Yeah, it's just ignorant to say that the GOP was on its deathbed before Trump.  We had 54 seats in the Senate and 247 seats in the House in 2015-16.  Trump actually had negative coattails in 2016, which is extremely rare for a first term president. We lost seats in both the Senate and House in the 2016 election.

A more accurate statement would be that the Democrat Party was on it’s deathbed until Trump came along
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A more accurate statement would be that the Democrat Party was on it’s deathbed until Trump came along

Yup - the best they could do was a candidate that a good chunk of their own party hated.

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A more accurate statement would be that the Democrat Party was on it’s deathbed until Trump came along

Yep.
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A more accurate statement would be that the Democrat Party was on it’s deathbed until Trump came along
At the very least, it was on the ropes. And the first year or two of the Trump presidency—when he basically followed along with what the Republicans told him on most of the issues—was quite successful.

But Trump could not, for the life of himself, get out of his own way.
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At the very least, it was on the ropes. And the first year or two of the Trump presidency—when he basically followed along with what the Republicans told him on most of the issues—was quite successful.

But Trump could not, for the life of himself, get out of his own way.

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At the very least, it was on the ropes.

And now it’s the opposite

Claiming that the GOP was on his deathbed before Donald Trump is absolutely, 100%, factually incorrect
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At the very least, it was on the ropes. And the first year or two of the Trump presidency—when he basically followed along with what the Republicans told him on most of the issues—was quite successful.

This is a great point, because the narrative from the Trump side is almost the exact opposite.  That everything good came just from him, and everything bad came from the professional politicians.  But the truth is kind of the opposite.

Trump's two most lasting positive impacts were court appointments, and the tax reform bill.  Court appointments largely were outsourced to the Federalist Society for recommendations (Trump literally promised to have Supreme Court nominations come from a list supplied by the Federalist Society) and the Senate/McConnell.  The tax bill was written in the House, and then rammed through by Ryan and McConnell.   The kicker now is that Trump hates both Ryan and McConnell, and they don't much like him either.   

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But Trump could not, for the life of himself, get out of his own way.

Exactly.  I still don't believe that him falling out with so many of his key subordinates/cabinet members are evidence that they were "bad picks".  I think a lot of them were actually good appointments, but Trump simply wouldn't listen to good advice, was unreasonable, and therefore a terrible guy to work for.  He now spins them all as bad picks -- though the alleged fault of his advisors rather than himself -- but the truth is most of them were likely no different from the series of lawyers who have abandoned him thinking "I can't work for this guy anymore."

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It's not DeSantis that's dividing the party right now... :whistle:
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