“This is the Final Battle. With You at My Side…” – Donald Trump Declares

[LMAO]

Everything in your latest supports my opinion that you lack principles.

If you will not call for an end to the indictments of Donald Trump and support the right of the American voter to decide his fate, unimpeded  ---- then you are just a graduate of the Obama-Biden School of Fascist Lawfare with a major in Election Interference using your newly earned degree to remove a man you do not want to win ---- and cannot stop any other way.

So, spare me your "principled" Conservative 

Does Donald Trump have any responsibility in any of the messes he finds himself in?

There’s a lot of whining from you on how Donald Trump is the victim and everyone’s being so mean to him. Never mind that he does help make it easy for his enemies

[Right_in_Virginia]

Does Donald Trump have any responsibility in any of the messes he finds himself in?

There’s a lot of whining from you on how Donald Trump is the victim and everyone’s being so mean to him. Never mind that he does help make it easy for his enemies

This is a tiresome and dangerous straw man fallacy.

Either stand with the Constitution of the United States, the rule of law and free, unimpeded elections ----- or get out of the damn way of those that do.  In the name of all that is holy, whichever you choose,  Stop! cluttering the road with your

[Wingnut]

Compared to you, Biden and Fetterman are brilliant.   

Truth. 

[libertybele]

Compared to you, Biden and Fetterman are brilliant.   

Now that there is funny!!     

[Right_in_Virginia]

Not that there is funny!! 

Have you the English translation of your wit,  dear?

[libertybele]

Truth.

Indeed! 

[LMAO]

This is a tiresome and dangerous straw man fallacy.

Either stand with the Constitution of the United States, the rule of law and free, unimpeded elections ----- or get out of the damn way of those that do.  In the name of all that is holy, whichever you choose,  Stop! cluttering the road with your

I don’t think you know what a strawman is

I simply asked you is there any responsibility Donald Trump has in his problems? So far you blame everybody else and everything.

I’ve noticed that when the topic or questions get uncomfortable for you, you seek to either shut them down or you ping the owner of the site to come bail you out

[Right_in_Virginia]

Compared to you, Biden and Fetterman are brilliant.   

You must be the designated "move 'em away from RiV's point" poster.  Pretty easy gang to distract, isn't it @Jack Russell   

[libertybele]

I don’t think you know what a strawman is

I simply asked you is there any responsibility Donald Trump has in his problems? So far you blame everybody else and everything.

I’ve noticed that when the topic or questions get uncomfortable for you, you seek to either shut them down or you ping the owner of the site to come bail you out

Trump has a difficult time accepting responsibility OR in many cases following through on what he has promised.

[LMAO]

Trump has a difficult time accepting responsibility

Yes he does. I will not disagree that the law is being applied more aggressively to Donald Trump and his supporters than anyone else. When people say “no one is above the law,” clearly, there are people above the law.

But one of the accusations are that Donald Trump had war plans that he showed to other people. If true, he is screwed and should be.

MAGAs truly believe that they’re on a mission to save the country(what they really mean is  that they want to save Donald Trump but that’s an argument for another day ). The problem is the one that they’re putting into place had his chance and the left and the deep state actually gained power under his watch.

[Right_in_Virginia]

I simply asked you is there any responsibility Donald Trump has in his problems? So far you blame everybody else and everything.

I’ve noticed that when the topic or questions get uncomfortable for you, you seek to either shut them down or you ping the owner of the site to come bail you out

I don't want you to think I'm ignoring you ---- but we're about to leave for dinner and I don't have time to do justice to your post @LMAO

But, on the plus side, I've left behind enough for y'all to discuss and ridicule so you can enjoy your evening while I'm out enjoying mine.   

[DB]

Trump has a difficult time accepting responsibility OR in many cases following through on what he has promised.

Trump is an expert at making sales pitches - much like the carnival barker is at leveraging pride and emotion to con the mark into taking high risk actions.

He makes the pitch and someone else is expected to do the work. And it is always someone else's fault when he fails.

[LMAO]

I don't want you to think I'm ignoring you ---- but we're about to leave for dinner and I don't have time to do justice to your post @LMAO

But, on the plus side, I've left behind enough for y'all to discuss and ridicule so you can enjoy your evening while I'm out enjoying mine.   

Will take this up again

Enjoy your dinner out 

[LMAO]

Trump is an expert at making sales pitches - much like the carnival barker is at leveraging pride and emotion to con the mark into taking high risk actions.

He makes the pitch and someone else is expected to do the work. And it is always someone else's fault when he fails.

Well, running for office is always a sales pitch. But Donald Trump is not a blank slate. He had 4 years and now he’s claiming he needs another four years because he’s going to clean up the deep state

Just not buying it. But his supporters are.

[roamer_1]

Everything in your latest supports my opinion that you lack principles.

LOL!
Bullshit.

If you will not call for an end to the indictments of Donald Trump

I already have. Listen now: I ALREADY HAVE. I am in this very thread ON THE RECORD as being against the indictments, impeachments, and dirty pool. And I always have been, to include Russia-gate. What will satisfy your ridiculous demands?

and support the right of the American voter to decide his fate, unimpeded 

WTF does that even mean? Can he shoot someone in the face and I still have to support his right campaign? Where's the line? And what to do about it? Pitchforks and tar and feathers? What will that get you?

I am all for free and fair elections, And have already declared that too... But that changes nothing. He's been called on the carpet IN COURT. It is a legal matter... Nothing fixes that except beating them at it IN COURT. Fair or not, right or not, there it is. How do you resolve it other than getting it thrown out of court?

And if you whine and cry and throw dirt in the air, and even if I join you in whining and crying and throwing dirt in the air, NOTHING IS GOING TO CHANGE THAT except two things: Get the Democrats to quit and drop the charges - Which they certainly will not do, or show up in court and beat the charges.

That's it. That is the only way forward short of war.
There is nothing to be done.

Or better yet, tell me what you think can be done otherwise.

---- then you are merely a graduate of the Obama-Biden School of Fascist Lawfare with a major in Election Interference using your degree to remove a man you do not want to win ---- and cannot stop any other way.


So, spare me your "principled" Conservative 

Funny that... Because my stance has been the same from Delay, through Moore, and to Tumpy... with others along the way... Exactly the same. Because Principles.

It was you that was singing a different tune when it was Moore's tail in a crack. You were selling the bullcrap they had against him. And that was totally fine, right?

[roamer_1]

Yes he does. I will not disagree that the law is being applied more aggressively to Donald Trump and his supporters than anyone else. When people say “no one is above the law,” clearly, there are people above the law.

That's right.

But one of the accusations are that Donald Trump had war plans that he showed to other people. If true, he is screwed and should be.

That's right too...

But that brings the question... What else is there to do. I mean, really? Once indicted, how is it resolved? How do we find out if the charges are accurate? How do we prove innocence ?

Now that the charges are filed, what's next? Will of the People? Put it to a vote? Pass a law in the House? Howabout a big petition?

What can be done?

ANSWER: Nothing. He has to show up in court and face the charges. There is no other way.

MAGAs truly believe that they’re on a mission to save the country(what they really mean is  that they want to save Donald Trump but that’s an argument for another day ). The problem is the one that they’re putting into place had his chance and the left and the deep state actually gained power under his watch.

I think that's right too. The other problem is that the only 'other' there is is civil insurrection... So much for the Rule of Law and the Constitution they claim to be upholding...

[sneakypete]

We saw similar polls in the 2022 midterms. All the polls favorited a republican red wave.

But when actual voters went to vote,.....
 

@LMAO

So,you are willing to go on record as believing the Dims didn't manufacture votes to "win" that election?

[roamer_1]

@LMAO

So,you are willing to go on record as believing the Dims didn't manufacture votes to "win" that election?

I will, @sneakypete . Certain venues perhaps, Certain states, maybe, but not across the country, The Red Wave never happened, hardly anywhere, except deep red states where it would happen anyway.

[Right_in_Virginia]

I simply asked you is there any responsibility Donald Trump has in his problems?

The short answer is no. 

I do not blame the target of eight years of relentless criminal lawfare orchestrated by the highest levels of our corrupted federal government and supported/amplified by the equally corrupted Congressional branch of the deep administrative state and legacy and social media.

I admire the target's strength, stamina, commitment and sheer guts.  I respect all he (and his family and associates) has absorbed to keep the promises he made to me on the campaign trail --- even with at least one hand tied behind his back at all times and multiple knives in his back:

I’ve noticed that when the topic or questions get uncomfortable for you, you seek to either shut them down or you ping the owner of the site to come bail you out

It's a debate @LMAO   "Shutting down" the opposition in a debate is the equivalent of a knock out in boxing  --- it is rather the goal.   And,  to be fair, many try it against me, but, sadly, less on substance and more with a shoot the messenger strategy.

I do, however, disengage when "jackals" begin to gather prepared for a coordated personal assault.  But, I always return to debate again after they scatter.   

BTW, I do not try to gain a debate advantage by pinging management.  I have pinged the owner just a handful or so times in 14 years ---- and as a follow-up to a previous discussion or post.  So, rest easy, my friend. I enter a debate prepared to stand alone.

I hope this long-winded reply answered your questions.

[LMAO]

The short answer is no. 

I do not blame the target of eight years of relentless criminal lawfare orchestrated by the highest levels of our corrupted federal government and supported/amplified by the equally corrupted Congressional branch of the deep administrative state and legacy and social media.

I admire the target's strength, stamina, commitment and sheer guts.  I respect all he (and his family and associates) has absorbed to keep the promises he made to me on the campaign trail --- even with at least one hand tied behind his back at all times and multiple knives in his back:

It's a debate @LMAO   "Shutting down" the opposition in a debate is the equivalent of a knock out in boxing  --- it is rather the goal.   And,  to be fair, many try it against me, but, sadly, less on substance and more with a shoot the messenger strategy.

I do, however, disengage when "jackals" begin to gather prepared for a coordated personal assault.  But, I always return to debate again after they scatter.   

BTW, I do not try to gain a debate advantage by pinging management.  I have pinged the owner just a handful or so times in 14 years ---- and as a follow-up to a previous discussion or post.  So, rest easy, my friend. I enter a debate prepared to stand alone.

I hope this long-winded reply answered your questions.

You pinged the owner of this site on me  when I called out your hypocritical reaction over a fake photograph of Donald Trump hugging Anthony Fauci but you demanded other members answer for a photograph of a young RDS surrounded by young women with alcohol in their hands as him  supplying alcohol to minors.

The reason you pinged the site owner that fateful day was to either attempt to have me suspended for calling out your hypocrisy or lock that particular thread on your behalf. Those are the only two reasons you would have in doing such. For the record, I’ve never, nor would I ever, ping the site’s owner in an attempt to silence others

Here’s the link in case you’ve forgotten

https://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,502153.0.html

And as far as your “shoot the messenger” claim, fair enough, I’ve seen it. But you do it also. Here’s just a taste of you “shooting the messenger”

https://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,494868.25.html

Bring back memories? All I did that day was simply answer your question on what Democrat positions Trump takes or has taken, all easily verifiable, and your counterpoint was to tell me to stop listening to the voices in my head and storm away



But as for Trump, part of being an adult is you accept responsibility for your actions. One of charges is he had top-secret war plans that he showed to others. If that’s proven to be true, that is against the law. Are you OK with him doing that?

Despite your claims of how you’re “standing up for the US Constitution,” I have no doubt if everything was the same, but it was Joe Biden or Hillary Clinton facing charges, I have no doubt that you wouldn’t “stand up for the Constitution and the rule of law.” Which is why I am suspicious that this has nothing to do with any large and noble cause but more of a fight on behalf of  one man. Your reply to me hints at that

[LMAO]

@LMAO

So,you are willing to go on record as believing the Dims didn't manufacture votes to "win" that election?

Anything’s possible

But were did they manufacture votes to win those elections?  And do you have any solid evidence of that and can you prove that that made a difference? That’s why I’m not on the “Trump was robbed” train. Not that I don’t believe there were serious issues in the 2020 election. But nobody can prove that those issues caused Trump to lose

Hillary Clinton, and Stacey Abrams both made wild claims of why they lost their elections. Do you agree with them? For example, Hillary Clinton claimed, without evidence, that 80,000 some votes in the Milwaukee and Madison area that were for her were thrown out. Do you agree with her or not?

After Hillary Clinton lost, I ventured into left-wing blogs to gauge their reaction and they sounded similar and used the same excuses that Trump supporters used when he lost.

[Bigun]

I will, @sneakypete . Certain venues perhaps, Certain states, maybe, but not across the country, The Red Wave never happened, hardly anywhere, except deep red states where it would happen anyway.

Well, those "certain venues and states" were all they needed to turn the wave away @roamer_1

[LMAO]

Well, those "certain venues and states" were all they needed to turn the wave away @roamer_1

Our own Senator won a close reelection fight and thank God for that as Mandela Barnes would’ve been the first squad member in the Senate

[roamer_1]

Well, those "certain venues and states" were all they needed to turn the wave away @roamer_1

No, @Bigun I don't think that's right.

It's one thing to control key positions in battleground states... It's a whole nuther to control the board in 50 state elections... Or even 30. Or even 20.

That's a tall order. And it certainly ignores the successes.

[sneakypete]

I will, @sneakypete . Certain venues perhaps, Certain states, maybe, but not across the country, The Red Wave never happened, hardly anywhere, except deep red states where it would happen anyway.

@roamer_1

This is America,and you have the right to believe any  damn-fool thing you want to believe.