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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4625 on: September 06, 2024, 01:43:29 pm »
Quote from: MeganC on September 06, 2024, 12:57:53 pm
Skynet.

Yes. It's like Terminator is a manual, not a cautionary tale.

The other thing - imagine a drone carrying an aerosolized chemical like fentanyl and dropping it over an event like the Macy's parade on a windless day, or God forbid a biological.
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4626 on: September 06, 2024, 04:31:00 pm »
Quote from: MeganC on September 06, 2024, 12:38:31 pm
That's what both war and terrorism will soon look like.
Imagine all that in the hands of a totalitarian government.
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4627 on: September 06, 2024, 04:51:49 pm »
Quote from: Smokin Joe on September 06, 2024, 04:31:00 pm
Imagine all that in the hands of a totalitarian government.

Like the United Kingdom or France?
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4628 on: September 06, 2024, 08:30:52 pm »
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4629 on: September 06, 2024, 08:31:46 pm »
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4630 on: September 06, 2024, 08:32:29 pm »
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4631 on: September 06, 2024, 08:33:04 pm »
Quote from: MeganC on September 06, 2024, 04:51:49 pm
Like the United Kingdom or France?
Or even here if it gets a chance.
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4632 on: September 06, 2024, 08:34:27 pm »
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4633 on: September 06, 2024, 08:42:39 pm »
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« Reply #4634 on: September 06, 2024, 10:58:36 pm »
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Sanitary actions? I don't get it.

He cleans out all the people.
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4635 on: September 06, 2024, 11:01:59 pm »
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4636 on: September 06, 2024, 11:02:42 pm »
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4637 on: September 06, 2024, 11:04:53 pm »
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« Reply #4638 on: September 06, 2024, 11:10:27 pm »
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« Reply #4639 on: September 06, 2024, 11:13:18 pm »
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4640 on: September 06, 2024, 11:17:43 pm »
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4641 on: September 06, 2024, 11:21:04 pm »
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4642 on: September 06, 2024, 11:23:14 pm »
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4643 on: September 06, 2024, 11:29:34 pm »
Truth

Zelensky accuses UK of dragging heels on long-range missile deliveries

Speaking at summit with Nato defence ministers, the Ukrainian president says support from Western allies has begun to slacken

Joe Barnes, in BRUSSELS  •  6 September 2024  •  6:21pm

Volodymyr Zelensky accused Britain of slowing down deliveries of long-range missiles during key Nato weapons talks.

The Ukrainian president said Britain and other allies were showing a “shortage of missiles and co-operation” with fresh shipments of Storm Shadows and other ammunition.

He pleaded with London and Washington to loosen restrictions on the weapons to strike deep inside Russia as he seeks to turn the tide of Moscow’s invasion in Kyiv’s favour.

Mr Zelensky delivered his message directly to Western defence ministers on Friday during his first in-person appearance for talks at the Ramstein air base in Germany.

“We hear that your long-range policy has not changed, but we see changes in the Atacms, Storm Shadows and Scalps – a shortage of missiles and co-operation,” Mr Zelensky told the gathering.

“And this applies even to our territory, which is occupied by Russia, including Crimea. We think it is wrong that there are such steps.”

Ukraine has made repeated pleas to the UK, US and France to use the Western-supplied, long-range missiles to strike airfields, missile launchers, ammunition and fuel depots and command and control hubs on Russian soil.

Kyiv’s Western allies have allowed Ukraine to use their smaller weapons across the border, but have so far refused to budge when it comes to deep strikes.

“We need to have this long-range capability not only on the occupied territory of Ukraine, but also on the Russian territory, so that Russia is motivated to seek peace,” Mr Zelensky said at the beginning of the meeting.

The US-led Defense Contact Group is a regular gathering of more than 50 of Kyiv’s Western allies  .  .  .

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/09/06/zelensky-accuses-uk-long-range-missile-deliveries/
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4644 on: September 06, 2024, 11:37:15 pm »
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4645 on: September 06, 2024, 11:48:06 pm »
Ukraine’s Drone Technology Is Complicating Russian Bridging Operations

Vikram Mittal  |  Sep 6, 2024  |  08:35am EDT


MOSCOW, RUSSIA - 2021/08/24: Russian Army engineers set the PMM-2M pontoon floating bridge during ...
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Bridging a river is widely regarded as one of the most difficult tasks in military operations. The Ukrainians know these challenges well, having little success in crossing the Dnipro River near Kherson. Over the past few weeks, the Russians have been facing similar difficulties while attempting to build pontoon bridges across the Seim River in Kursk Oblast, after Ukrainian forces destroyed the original bridge to disrupt Russian supply lines. However, the Russians are now discovering that this challenging process is further complicated by the Ukrainians’ use of advanced drones to target and destroy these pontoon bridges.

The complexity of river bridging is multi-faceted. A river presents a natural obstacle with strong currents, deep water, and unstable banks. Building a bridge strong enough to support military vehicles, including trucks and armor, requires specialized engineer units. Yet, the true difficulty comes from the enemy on the far side. If the opposing force controls the far bank, they can engage exposed bridging units with direct fire. Even if the bank is secured, forward observers can still direct artillery strikes on the vulnerable bridge. Once constructed, the bridge becomes a natural choke point, and without proper coordination, vehicles crossing it are susceptible to attacks, as evidenced in May 2022 on the Siverskyi Donets River, where the Russians lost an entire Battalion Tactical Group.  .  ..

https://www.forbes.com/sites/vikrammittal/2024/09/06/ukraines-drone-technology-is-complicating-russian-bridging-operations/
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4646 on: September 06, 2024, 11:52:09 pm »
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4647 on: September 07, 2024, 11:56:50 am »
There are a few (half dozen or less) major railway junctions that if shut down could be chokepoints for Russian logistics into the several fighting fronts. I wonder if Zelenograd is such a critical junction.
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4648 on: September 07, 2024, 10:36:01 pm »
DAY 33 - UKRAINE'S INVASION OF RUSSIA


https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1832468497034592438
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4649 on: September 07, 2024, 10:50:44 pm »
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