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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #1525 on: September 11, 2023, 10:23:33 pm »
Wow, Cloud Cuckoo Land has a couple of new residents.
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« Reply #1526 on: September 11, 2023, 10:35:25 pm »
Wow, Cloud Cuckoo Land has a couple of new residents.

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« Reply #1527 on: September 11, 2023, 10:38:07 pm »
How God must weep at humans' folly! Stand fast! God knows what he is doing!
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #1528 on: September 11, 2023, 11:41:55 pm »
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I believe he's referring to the "It's Over" video... From the guy that Tucker is using as an "expert"...

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« Reply #1529 on: September 11, 2023, 11:43:35 pm »
I believe he's referring to the "It's Over" video... From the guy that Tucker is using as an "expert"...

Ahhh.  Thanks!

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« Reply #1530 on: September 12, 2023, 12:13:53 am »
I believe he's referring to the "It's Over" video... From the guy that Tucker is using as an "expert"...

MacGregor?  I have no doubt that he's on Putin's payroll, as is Tucker.
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« Reply #1531 on: September 12, 2023, 12:25:17 am »
I believe he's referring to the "It's Over" video... From the guy that Tucker is using as an "expert"...

I was, but my post ending up on the next page obscured the connection.
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« Reply #1532 on: September 12, 2023, 03:35:08 am »
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #1533 on: September 12, 2023, 12:35:51 pm »
Russian general says Eastern Europe is next, reminding us why we need to back Ukraine

By Dalibor Rohac
Published Sep. 11, 2023

If you think, like Elon Musk, that instead of fighting, Ukraine and Russia “should agree to a truce,” the recent interview with General Andrey Mordvichev, one of Russia’s top commanders in Ukraine, should give you pause.

Asked about the war’s expected duration, he said the quiet part out loud: There is still “plenty of time.”

According to him, “If we are talking about Eastern Europe, which we will have to, of course then it will be longer.”

In other words, the Kremlin is in the conflict for the long haul.

Not only it is committed, as Russian President Vladimir Putin himself stated on numerous occasions, to the destruction of Ukraine’s statehood, but its ambitions extend beyond Ukraine, encompassing Moldova and Georgia as well as our NATO allies in the Baltic states and Poland.

None of this is news to Eastern Europeans.

As the late former president of Poland Lech Kaczynski noted in 2008, after Russia attacked Georgia, “Today Georgia, tomorrow Ukraine, the Baltic States the day after tomorrow, and then perhaps the time will come for my country, Poland.”

America’s self-styled realists who believe a compromise can be reached with Putin — perhaps peace in exchange for some territory and promise of Ukraine’s neutrality — have a hopelessly unrealistic, naïve understanding of the Kremlin’s thinking.

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Source:  https://nypost.com/2023/09/11/russian-general-says-eastern-europe-is-next-reminding-us-why-we-need-to-back-ukraine/

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« Reply #1534 on: September 12, 2023, 12:36:29 pm »

https://twitter.com/MilitaryLabb/status/1701223539951432081

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Geolocated footage published today by 🇷🇺Russian sources confirms the presence of Ukrainian troops along the Kermenchyk-Novodonetske road, which means that Ukrainian forces have likely managed to clear the mined areas west of the road where they lost tanks and armored vehicles during their initial attempts a few days ago.
Now Ukrainians are cutting the road connection and putting the Russian forces under pressure of a full encirclement.

Considering how isolated the Russian troops are in this direction,  the reports confirmed by on-the ground Russian sources over a dominance of Ukrainian artillery in this area (including all the roads in this sector), as well as Rybar's report for a large gathering of over 1000 Ukrainian troops in the vicinity of Zolot Nyva in preparation for a large-scale offensive, it seems that the Ukrainian forces are now very close to entering and liberating Novodonetske.

With the increasing pressure from the west and south in addition to the non-stop small-scale attacks from the north it is unlikely the Russian forces will resist for much longer.

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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #1535 on: September 12, 2023, 01:36:21 pm »
:mauslaff:

He's basically Baghdad Bob at this point isn't he?

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« Reply #1536 on: September 12, 2023, 02:15:33 pm »

https://twitter.com/MilitaryLabb/status/1701223539951432081

This appears to be another front, a bit farther east, aimed at cutting the land route from Russia toward Crimea. Thing is, the closer Ukrainian forces get to that highway along the northern Black Sea coast, the more Ukrainian artillery types have the highway in range and can barrage truck convoys or cause large potholes to hinder transport trucks.
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« Reply #1537 on: September 12, 2023, 02:25:36 pm »
This appears to be another front, a bit farther east, aimed at cutting the land route from Russia toward Crimea. Thing is, the closer Ukrainian forces get to that highway along the northern Black Sea coast, the more Ukrainian artillery types have the highway in range and can barrage truck convoys or cause large potholes to hinder transport trucks.

I don't know if we can really believe the propaganda each are saying in this conflict.  Zellinski is a despicable grifting POS, but Vlad is even magnitudes worse.

The peripheral losers are us taxpayers having to fund this shit.
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« Reply #1538 on: September 12, 2023, 07:31:46 pm »
I don't know if we can really believe the propaganda each are saying in this conflict.  Zellinski is a despicable grifting POS, but Vlad is even magnitudes worse.

The peripheral losers are us taxpayers having to fund this shit.

@catfish1957

"We",the west,don't HAVE to fund it. We can always wait for Russia to control all of eastern Europe,and then move into Western Europe before we do anything.

We can then stomp our little feets and threaten to hold our breath until we turn blue if those Russian meanies don't go back home again.


THAT should do it,huh?

I guess that probably sounds like a good plan to you,huh?
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« Reply #1539 on: September 12, 2023, 08:21:24 pm »
@catfish1957

"We",the west,don't HAVE to fund it. We can always wait for Russia to control all of eastern Europe,and then move into Western Europe before we do anything.

We can then stomp our little feets and threaten to hold our breath until we turn blue if those Russian meanies don't go back home again.


THAT should do it,huh?

I guess that probably sounds like a good plan to you,huh?

Wow...just what I  needed.  Wisdom on Foreign Policy from the Resident  Mental Midget.

Stick with Rich, Orange, Rude, and other small worded terms that you ccan understand..  More your speed.
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« Reply #1540 on: September 12, 2023, 08:45:03 pm »
Wow...just what I  needed.  Wisdom on Foreign Policy from the Resident  Mental Midget.

Stick with Rich, Orange, Rude, and other small worded terms that you ccan understand..  More your speed.

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LOL!

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« Reply #1541 on: September 12, 2023, 09:05:49 pm »
Okay stop the insults...
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #1542 on: September 12, 2023, 09:28:39 pm »
Wow...just what I  needed.  Wisdom on Foreign Policy from the Resident  Mental Midget.

Stick with Rich, Orange, Rude, and other small worded terms that you ccan understand..  More your speed.

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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #1543 on: September 13, 2023, 12:24:12 am »
Russia general says Ukraine just ‘stepping stone’ to invade Europe: ‘Won’t stop'

https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/russiaukraine-war-russian-general-says-ukraine-just-stepping-stone-to-invade-europe-101694364931943.html

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A key Russian general who Russian president Vladimir Putin promoted this week said that Moscow's invasion of Ukraine is a mere "stepping stone" to further conflict with Europe. Vladimir Putin promoted lieutenant general Andrey Mordvichev to the rank of colonel-general after he had already been serving in the role of commanding the central military district and Russian central grouping of forces in Ukraine.

In an interview with Moscow's state-run Russia-1, Andrey Mordvichev said that he believes Vladimir Putin's war will last quite a long time and expand in the future.

"I think there's still plenty of time to spend. It is pointless to talk about a specified period. If we are talking about Eastern Europe, which we will have to, of course then it will be longer," the general said.

"Ukraine is only a stepping stone?" the interviewer then asked.

"Yes, absolutely. It is only the beginning," he responded adding that the war “will not stop here.”

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Can't get much clearer than that!  People better wake up!
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #1544 on: September 13, 2023, 12:59:45 am »
Ukraine regains control of strategic Black Sea oil rigs, intelligence service says

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/sep/12/ukraine-regains-control-of-strategic-black-sea-oil-rigs-intelligence-service-says

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Ukrainian forces have regained control of several gas and oil offshore drilling platforms close to Crimea from Russia, Ukraine’s military intelligence (GUR) has said.

In a statement on the Telegram messaging app on Monday, the GUR said that Kyiv’s forces had retaken the drilling platforms known as the “Boyko Towers” in a “unique operation”.

It said the platforms had been occupied since 2015 by Russia, which seized and annexed Crimea in 2014, and had been used by Moscow for military purposes since the start of Russia’s full-scale invasion on Ukraine in February 2022.

"Russian military bloggers" are sour-graping this, but making contradictory claims.
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #1545 on: September 13, 2023, 01:02:03 am »
Zellinski is a despicable grifting POS

Based on what exactly?
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #1546 on: September 13, 2023, 12:41:46 pm »
Is this for real?  :pondering:

English speaking spokesperson for the Ukrainian military: Ukraine will hunt down "Russian propagandists" around the world.

https://twitter.com/ducaena/status/1701741396363792650

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So the official Ukrainian position on anyone who disagrees with their narrative is to hunt them down and eliminate them. Totally not a terroristic threat at all. Weird unhinged Nazi rhetoric from a psychopathic demon in a wig who thinks he’s a character in Command & Conquer.
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #1547 on: September 13, 2023, 12:46:18 pm »
Is this for real?  :pondering:

English speaking spokesperson for the Ukrainian military: Ukraine will hunt down "Russian propagandists" around the world.

https://twitter.com/ducaena/status/1701741396363792650

Ian Miles Cheong
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So the official Ukrainian position on anyone who disagrees with their narrative is to hunt them down and eliminate them. Totally not a terroristic threat at all. Weird unhinged Nazi rhetoric from a psychopathic demon in a wig who thinks he’s a character in Command & Conquer.
7:41 AM · Sep 13, 2023



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« Reply #1548 on: September 13, 2023, 12:52:01 pm »
Wacky.
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« Reply #1549 on: September 13, 2023, 12:52:25 pm »
I believe he's referring to the "It's Over" video... From the guy that Tucker is using as an "expert"...

Is that Douggie MacGregor, the idiot who has been happily chirping about Ukraine’s crushing defeat since Day 1 of the invasion?