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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4175 on: August 19, 2024, 04:32:14 pm »
Good to see some humanity and acts of decency taking place during this stupid and needless war.  :yowsa:



Well, yeah, it is stupid and needless. If Russia hadn't decided to invade another country I doubt we would be having a conversation at all. And if  they withdraw...

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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4176 on: August 19, 2024, 06:20:25 pm »


Is that the Conei Island neighborhood?

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« Reply #4177 on: August 19, 2024, 07:31:42 pm »
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« Reply #4181 on: August 19, 2024, 10:25:22 pm »
Ukraine blows up key bridges and says aim is to carve out a buffer zone inside Russia

Yuliya Talmazan  |  Aug. 19, 2024, 5:44 AM EDT  |  Updated Aug. 19, 2024, 8:26 AM EDT


Ukraine appeared to have blown up a number of key bridges in the Kursk region over the weekend as its troops pressed on with a daring incursion into Russia that Kyiv now says was aimed at creating a buffer zone to stop attacks across the border.

Ukraine’s air force reported Sunday that a second bridge was destroyed in the Kursk region, saying it “deprives the enemy of its logistical capabilities” and “significantly affects the course of hostilities.”

“Minus one more bridge,” said the country’s air force chief, Lt. Gen. Mykola Oleshchuk, sharing a video of what appears to be a strike on one of the ends of the span.  .  .

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/ukraine-blows-up-bridges-seim-river-kursk-disrupt-russian-supply-lines-rcna167111
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« Reply #4183 on: August 19, 2024, 10:42:04 pm »
A Notorious Marine Battalion Has Joined Ukraine’s Invasion Of Russia

David Axe  |  Aug 18, 2024 - 05:19pm EDT  |  Updated Aug 19, 2024 - 10:42am EDT


Yet another Ukrainian unit has joined the country’s invasion of Russia’s Kursk Oblast. On Sunday, the Ukrainian marine corps’ 501st Marine Battalion announced its presence in the city, in a video depicting marines tearing down a Russian flag “in one of the settlements of Kursk.”

The battalion’s 400 or so marines “are at the forefront of combat missions,” the unit stated. But that wasn’t always the case. The 501st Battalion has an unfortunate history of avoiding combat. In that sense, the Kursk campaign is an opportunity for redemption.

The 501st Marine Battalion was part of the Ukrainian garrison in Crimea when Russian troops invaded the strategic peninsula in 2014. As outgunned Ukrainian forces fled the peninsula, just 64 of the 501st Marine Battalion’s personnel joined them. The others—potentially hundreds in all—voluntarily stayed in Crimea, effectively siding with the peninsula’s Russian occupiers.

The Ukrainian defense ministry rebuilt the 501st Marine Battalion. Eight years later, in the early months of Russia’s wider invasion of Ukraine, the battalion joined the garrison in Mariupol on the Black Sea coast.  .  .  .

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2024/08/18/a-notorious-marine-battalion-has-joined-ukraines-invasion-of-russia/
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« Reply #4184 on: August 19, 2024, 10:45:18 pm »
Russia Deploying 'Space Troops' to Defend Kursk

Isabel van Brugen  |  Aug 19, 2024 at 5:41 AM EDT  |  Updated at 10:59 AM EDT


Russia has deployed a regiment of its Aerospace Forces to defend the Kursk region due to a manpower shortage amid Ukraine's ongoing incursion, according to an independent investigative Russian outlet.

President Vladimir Putin's so-called "space troops" have been tasked to push back Ukraine's forces after Kyiv launched a cross-border raid on August 6 in Kursk, seemingly catching Moscow off guard, Important Stories reported on Sunday.

Ukrainian forces have so far seized control of 1,150 square kilometers (444 square miles) of Russian territory and 82 settlements in Kursk, the commander-in-chief of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, Oleksandr Syrsky, said on August 15.

The scale of the offensive is significant—Ukraine is now reported to have seized more territory in the Kursk region in days than Russia has captured in Ukraine since the beginning of the year.  .  .  .

https://www.newsweek.com/russia-aerospace-forces-troops-kursk-incursion-1940995
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« Reply #4185 on: August 19, 2024, 10:48:37 pm »
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Re: Ukraine 4
« Reply #4189 on: August 19, 2024, 10:57:23 pm »
An economic catastrophe is lurking beneath Russia’s GDP growth as Putin ‘throws everything into the fireplace’

Jeffrey Sonnenfeld, Michal Wyrebkowski, Anders Aslund and Tymofiy Mylovanov  |  August 19, 2024 at 2:35 PM EDT


Even as Ukrainian advances in the Kursk region pierce Russia’s aura of military invincibility, resurgent cynics have painted an unrealistically optimistic picture of a supposedly resilient Russian economy despite sanctions and the exit of over 1,000 global multinational corporations.

This misleading narrative attributes Russia’s apparent economic continuity to aggressive government spending and efforts to shield the population from restrictive monetary policies through extreme fiscal stimulus. However, this rosy outlook is fundamentally flawed, except for one crucial observation: Russia is indeed engaged in unsustainable spending practices.

The reality of Russia’s economic situation is far more complex and concerning than some would have you believe. The productive core of the Russian economy has been severely compromised, with the government’s spending spree bearing a striking resemblance to Keynes’ famous metaphor of digging trenches and filling them with dirt—a superficial attempt to prop up GDP figures without creating genuine economic value, improving the lives of the Russian people, or improving Russian productivity. Financial, production, and human resources have been redirected en masse to the defense sector, leaving the civilian sector struggling to meet growing consumer demand. This imbalance—cannibalizing the rest of the Russian economy to fund Putin’s war—has fueled inflation, further exacerbated by the depreciation of the ruble and rising import costs.

Simply put, Putin’s administration has prioritized military production over all else in the economy, at substantial cost. While the defense industry expands, Russian consumers are increasingly burdened with debt, potentially setting the stage for a looming crisis. The excessive focus on military spending is crowding out productive investments in other sectors of the economy, stifling long-term growth prospects and innovation.

It’s crucial to approach Russian economic data with skepticism. As we’ve repeatedly highlighted, the country’s statistical services have a documented history of distorting economic indicators, making it challenging to accurately assess  .  .  .

https://fortune.com/europe/2024/08/19/an-economic-catastrophe-is-lurking-beneath-russias-gdp-growth-as-putin-throws-everything-into-the-fireplace/
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« Reply #4191 on: August 19, 2024, 11:13:09 pm »
Third bridge attacked in Kursk region, Russia says | Ukraine-Russia War

Sky's security and defence analyst Professor Michael Clarke says this leaves the Russians with only a pontoon bridge on the Seim River, making it logistically difficult to move their forces south and leaving the area 'at the mercy' of Ukraine.

Monday 19 August 2024 18:43, UK

Video at link:  https://news.sky.com/video/od-ukraine-clarke-x-1700-13199851
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« Reply #4192 on: August 20, 2024, 02:35:04 am »
This attack by Ukraine into Russia is bold and brave.  And it will accelerate the demise of Russia.

I would say as Ukraine continues to draw down Russia's inventory of equipment and men, Ukraine will be able to continue to march its way toward key cities.  And if they level everything as they go, perhaps Putin will begin to fall out of favor.

As long as he heads Russia, he will expend Russian men for his purposes. 

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« Reply #4193 on: August 20, 2024, 06:42:57 am »
Join The Reagan Caucus: https://reagancaucus.org/ and the Eisenhower Caucus: https://EisenhowerCaucus.org

Ronald Reagan: “Rather than...talking about putting up a fence, why don’t we work out some recognition of our mutual problems and make it possible for them to come here legally with a work permit…earning here they pay taxes here.”

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« Reply #4194 on: August 20, 2024, 01:18:00 pm »
The real Russia and this needs to be posted on the TOS:

https://twitter.com/coolerkdawg/status/1825638160988098583?t=-pGUMv8QMDhq04JRuOZlFg&s=19

Free Soviet Socialist Republic is at this time a propaganda outlet for the Putin regime. Meaning that anyone willing to post this over there should expect for the post to be removed without much comment because it goes against the daily talking points from Moscow.


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« Reply #4195 on: August 20, 2024, 01:58:14 pm »
DAY 14 - UKRAINE'S INVASION OF RUSSIA

from r/UkraineWarVideoReport

https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/1ew5wbb/new_satellite_image_of_the_fire_at_the_rosrezerv/

A video with more information:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nX1djNA_CU8

Apparently, Russia has claimed it was only hit by "debris". :silly: If I understand the video correctly, the drone strike was three days ago, and the fire has spread from a few tanks to at least 18, with about half the tank farm obscured by smoke. It is not entirely unlikely that tanks not currently on fire could cook off. The smoke plume from the fire is now 105 Km (~65 miles) long. That's a whole lot of oil not fueling Russian civilian vehicles, military trucks and tanks, and not being exported.
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« Reply #4196 on: August 20, 2024, 03:44:45 pm »
I understand the infrastucture of this country's oil industry better than Russia, but ROSNEFT has to be feeling some nervousness.  Putin loses his hydrocarbon revenue stream?  Things are going to get really tough for the Putin's soldiers who basically might become stranded due to lack of resources.

My eyes aren't exactly "map-calibrated", but from my vantage point it looks like  5 of 9 of Russia's refineries (and association hardwared infrastructure) is within 500 miles of Ukraine.

Ouch!!!!
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« Reply #4197 on: August 20, 2024, 06:10:19 pm »
I understand the infrastucture of this country's oil industry better than Russia, but ROSNEFT has to be feeling some nervousness.  Putin loses his hydrocarbon revenue stream?  Things are going to get really tough for the Putin's soldiers who basically might become stranded due to lack of resources.

My eyes aren't exactly "map-calibrated", but from my vantage point it looks like  5 of 9 of Russia's refineries (and association hardwared infrastructure) is within 500 miles of Ukraine.

Ouch!!!!

All of Russia's refineries and oil fields are valid military targets and all of them should be properly serviced.
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« Reply #4198 on: August 20, 2024, 06:50:51 pm »
All of Russia's refineries and oil fields are valid military targets and all of them should be properly serviced.

Whooooooaaaaa....  I like the sentiment, but zapping 7.8 mbd off the world oil markets might not be an outcome we want. 

These kind of events could trigger a world economic meltdown, especially if it causes oil to rocket up to $120-150/bbl
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« Reply #4199 on: August 20, 2024, 07:19:40 pm »
Whooooooaaaaa....  I like the sentiment, but zapping 7.8 mbd off the world oil markets might not be an outcome we want. 

These kind of events could trigger a world economic meltdown, especially if it causes oil to rocket up to $120-150/bbl

Then that risk should be incentivizing the rest of the world to intervene more forcefully on Ukraine's side and to put more pressure on Russia to withdraw from Ukraine and stop this senseless fight.  All Russia has to do is withdraw from Ukraine, and (most likely) Ukraine will give them back Kursk without a fight.