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Re: Another Senate Race Is Slipping Away ?
« Reply #100 on: September 10, 2022, 06:57:45 pm »
Let's hope that anger spells votes.

Agreed

One thing they have in their favor... AZ proved cheating in the last election. AZ is pissed off. And AZ is super pissed off at the McCain't machine.

They are making ways to fix all that, and are filled with righteous anger. And there ain't much in this world that will stop a righteous man.

That's a remarkably perceptive view of the sea in which I swim....
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Re: Another Senate Race Is Slipping Away ?
« Reply #101 on: September 10, 2022, 07:43:54 pm »
It helps that Katie Hobbs is a moron.

Mark Kelly isn't much better.

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Re: Another Senate Race Is Slipping Away ?
« Reply #102 on: September 10, 2022, 09:03:20 pm »
It helps that Katie Hobbs is a moron.

Mark Kelly isn't much better.

There is no denying Masters has the most difficult race.  Kelly has a "McCain advantage," who was a Vietnam war hero and had a solid base of inattentive followers from both parties, while Kelly is a space "hero" with an equally brainless bunch of fanbois.  It remains to be seen if Kelly has that pull among Republican voters, because I honestly don't know right now.

The reason Kelly got elected was Trump's foolish endorsement of Martha McSally (who had already lost the Senate race against Sinema).  There were better candidates.
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Re: Another Senate Race Is Slipping Away ?
« Reply #103 on: September 10, 2022, 10:57:42 pm »
There were better candidates.

Where are they hiding ?????

I mean, Sinema is up in two years.

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Re: Another Senate Race Is Slipping Away ?
« Reply #104 on: September 11, 2022, 10:04:19 am »
Where are they hiding ?????

I mean, Sinema is up in two years.

Daniel McCarthy would have been good.
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Re: Another Senate Race Is Slipping Away ?
« Reply #105 on: September 11, 2022, 12:07:55 pm »
Daniel McCarthy would have been good.

O.K.

"would have been".

Is there a chance he "could be" ?  Is he around ?

Others we should search out ?

I've met David Farnsworth.  He seems like a good man. 

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Re: Another Senate Race Is Slipping Away ?
« Reply #106 on: September 11, 2022, 12:28:52 pm »
O.K.

"would have been".

Is there a chance he "could be" ?  Is he around ?

Others we should search out ?

I've met David Farnsworth.  He seems like a good man.

I like Farnsworth too, so happy he stomped on that worm Bowers in the Primary.  Not to pry, but what LD are you in these days?  I want to see who you have running....

McCarthy did reasonably well in that Primary (I voted for him), but he was running against a Trump endorsed candidate, an endorsement that really pissed me off.  He's very conservative, but he had a falling our with the State GOP and probably won't run again.
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« Reply #107 on: September 11, 2022, 02:09:45 pm »
That's a remarkably perceptive view of the sea in which I swim....


I have to respect it. Even if it fails, it is a righteous attempt to correct it within the will of the people.

Compared to Georgia, as an instance, where Republicans in charge are stepping on attempts of the people to get to the bottom of the same sort of thing. We have been shown voluminous evidence, and Georgia Republican representatives have chosen to be complicit.

That's a big difference, and AZ deserves my support.  :beer: :patriot: :seeya:

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Re: Another Senate Race Is Slipping Away ?
« Reply #108 on: September 11, 2022, 04:32:59 pm »
I'm a total outsider to Arizona.

But from where I am, it looks like Kari Lake will squeak by to win her race.

Mr. Masters, however a good show he puts up, is gonna lose.

I call 'em as I see 'em.
And that's how I see these two...

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Re: Another Senate Race Is Slipping Away ?
« Reply #109 on: September 11, 2022, 04:59:27 pm »
I like Farnsworth too, so happy he stomped on that worm Bowers in the Primary.  Not to pry, but what LD are you in these days?  I want to see who you have running....

McCarthy did reasonably well in that Primary (I voted for him), but he was running against a Trump endorsed candidate, an endorsement that really pissed me off.  He's very conservative, but he had a falling our with the State GOP and probably won't run again.

No worries.

I was in 16 up until they realigned.  That was how I met Farnsworth.  Now I am in 15.

The only one I know is Jaqueline Parker, running for house.  She seems pretty good.

The senate candidate (Jake Hoffman) and other house person (Neal Carter) I know nothing about.

I do have the name of the LD15 chair, but I have not reached out to her yet.  I will wait until after the dust clears (after November). 

BTW: I have only started "being" in AZ more than I was out of AZ.  Been a long time coming.

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So, what was McCarthy's issue ? 

This used to happen in Kansas.  There would be all this interplay and someone would get primaried or be asked to step aside so someone else could run....and they would fade away.  And the state party never reached out to them.  I was like WTH ?  These are people who want to be involved.   We need to keep them engaged and part of the machinery.
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Re: Another Senate Race Is Slipping Away ?
« Reply #110 on: September 11, 2022, 05:06:06 pm »
I like Farnsworth too, so happy he stomped on that worm Bowers in the Primary.  Not to pry, but what LD are you in these days?  I want to see who you have running....

McCarthy did reasonably well in that Primary (I voted for him), but he was running against a Trump endorsed candidate, an endorsement that really pissed me off.  He's very conservative, but he had a falling our with the State GOP and probably won't run again.

One other person I met was Kelly Townsend.  My guess is that she was more moderate and really didn't fit well with conservatives.  That was just my take. 

She lost a primary to Wendy Rogers (who I've never met....but clearly got a lot of press in 2020).
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Re: Another Senate Race Is Slipping Away ?
« Reply #111 on: September 11, 2022, 06:56:07 pm »
I'm a total outsider to Arizona.

But from where I am, it looks like Kari Lake will squeak by to win her race.

Mr. Masters, however a good show he puts up, is gonna lose.

I call 'em as I see 'em.
And that's how I see these two...

Wrong.
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Re: Another Senate Race Is Slipping Away ?
« Reply #112 on: September 15, 2022, 11:47:44 pm »
I'm a total outsider to Arizona.

But from where I am, it looks like Kari Lake will squeak by to win her race.

Mr. Masters, however a good show he puts up, is gonna lose.

I call 'em as I see 'em.
And that's how I see these two...

Did Masters really say he wanted to fire all the generals because they were left-wing and replace them with conservative Colonels ?

It's been reported all over the place. 

Supposedly there are news clips.

Still looking.

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Re: Another Senate Race Is Slipping Away ?
« Reply #113 on: October 01, 2022, 09:25:29 pm »
It's not looking good for Masters.

The needle hasn't moved for him in the polls.

Kelly is sporting 10X the bank account (52 million......52 million for a senate seat really ???)

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« Reply #114 on: October 01, 2022, 09:36:31 pm »
I don't know how she couldn't.

They didn't just vote her out.....

They really really dumped her.

So, we can only hope that Kelly's big war fund only takes him so far. 

The AZ GOP has a lot of work to do.
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Re: Another Senate Race Is Slipping Away ?
« Reply #115 on: October 01, 2022, 09:45:21 pm »
Kelly is sporting 10X the bank account (52 million......52 million for a senate seat really ???)

How was Kelly able to raise $52 million after only two years in the Senate?
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Re: Another Senate Race Is Slipping Away ?
« Reply #116 on: October 01, 2022, 10:05:10 pm »
How was Kelly able to raise $52 million after only two years in the Senate?

Out of State contributions.
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Re: Another Senate Race Is Slipping Away ?
« Reply #117 on: October 02, 2022, 07:03:56 pm »
It looks like that money is going to sink Masters.

Bummer.....whose up to take on Sinema in 2 years ?

I have not heard anyone pushing for the spot. 

And I hope Martha McSalley isn't pushing for the part.

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« Reply #118 on: October 06, 2022, 02:34:35 pm »
One month out.

Last poll ?

Masters gets creamed.

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« Reply #119 on: October 06, 2022, 02:42:25 pm »
How was Kelly able to raise $52 million after only two years in the Senate?

That's a little over $7 spent for every man, woman and child in the state... And many of the ads are downright lies...

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Re: Another Senate Race Is Slipping Away ?
« Reply #120 on: October 06, 2022, 02:48:53 pm »
One month out.

Last poll ?

Masters gets creamed.       

No joy in Muddeville

I don't recall how many times I've asked you to stop following the polls. They aren't measuring you, they are trying to persuade you.
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Re: Another Senate Race Is Slipping Away ?
« Reply #121 on: October 06, 2022, 03:33:49 pm »
One month out.

Last poll ?

Masters gets creamed.

No joy in Muddeville

Its  the  John Glenn effect......

Good astronaunt, but an empty suit when comes to being a senator.
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« Reply #122 on: October 07, 2022, 09:21:21 am »
Its  the  John Glenn effect......

Good astronaunt, but an empty suit when comes to being a senator.

Glenn was a disappointment in many ways.

Kelly has been more than that.

But what is more important is the blatant power grab by those "in charge".

The whole idea of a senator spending that much money is beyond me.  But that is what lengths people will go to in order to push their "agenda".

Kelly isn't even a good puppet.  He's way to transparent.

Problem is.....Masters does not represent anything "bring and shiney".  He's just "not Kelly". 

His message isn't lost due to the lack of money.  His message just isn't that great.

I'll be voting for him.  But I haven't been all that enthusiastic about him.

Lake is a different story. 

She's got command of things.....if dufus Hobbs didn't have the "She's with Trump" message, she's be a completely empty suite. 

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« Reply #123 on: October 07, 2022, 10:39:06 am »
Did you watch the "Debate" last night, @HikerGuy83?
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« Reply #124 on: October 07, 2022, 10:59:16 am »
Looks like the republicans will not win  the senate but it may not matter if Putin Nukes D.C.

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Re: Another Senate Race Is Slipping Away ?
« Reply #125 on: October 07, 2022, 11:15:59 am »
Looks like the republicans will not win  the senate but it may not matter if Putin Nukes D.C.

Will likely be close...

From my opinion and analysis...

From RCP, with a 47-46 R lead, and 7 tossups....

GA-  I think the slime sticks to Walker-  Warnock in a squeeker. D hold
AZ-  Masters should be destroying this dufous, but for some reason this bullshit aura of being an astronut hero is working .  Kelly in a close one.  D hold
NH- Bolduc is putting up a valiant effort, but honestly this is blue territory, and Hassan sadly holds- D hold
NC- RCP has this as a dead heat, but I think Budd pulls away, and keeps this in the GOP column.  R hold
NV- Incumbant hasn't led in a poll all season, plus NV has been in-proportionally killed by Pedo Joe's agenda.  Laxalt wins.  R pickup
WI-  Johnson has momentum, and this won't be as close as they think.  R hold

Senate rides on PA-

Stupid brain dead radical effectively uses the Biden campaign strategy laying low, plays rope a dope, and exploits OZ's weakness of being be an out of stater, and serving in the Turkish army over US army.  Sadly, I am thinking this is a D pickup.

Based on this...  Senate 50-50.....  No change.

Trump's giving us Oz and Walker is coming back to bite us in the ass.
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Re: Another Senate Race Is Slipping Away ?
« Reply #126 on: October 07, 2022, 05:52:28 pm »
Catfish prognosticates:
"Based on this...  Senate 50-50.....  No change. "

My predictions, posted on 9.2.22:
https://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,479458.msg2703899.html#msg2703899

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« Reply #127 on: October 07, 2022, 11:49:36 pm »
Did you watch the "Debate" last night, @HikerGuy83?

I watched part of it on YouTube.

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« Reply #128 on: October 07, 2022, 11:51:57 pm »
GA-  I think the slime sticks to Walker-  Warnock in a squeeker. D hold

Walker isn't a great candidate....but Warnock is a real loser.

If he wins, I'll be worried about things in general.

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« Reply #129 on: October 07, 2022, 11:54:58 pm »
From my post (2) earlier.....   

After Walker's implosion the past 48 hours,Warnock will not win in a squeeker.  His margin wil now be 5-10.
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« Reply #130 on: October 07, 2022, 11:59:17 pm »
Walker isn't a great candidate....but Warnock is a real loser.

If he wins, I'll be worried about things in general.

The average voter is not that informed, and has the attention span of a 6 year old.

The dims pulled out all the stops, and ambushed this terribly flawed candidate

And a note to DJT.....   If you want to be that big of an influence in the GOP, do a better damned job in vetting our candiates so we aren't stuck with disasters like Oz and Walker.
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« Reply #131 on: October 08, 2022, 09:48:43 am »
The average voter is not that informed, and has the attention span of a 6 year old.

The dims pulled out all the stops, and ambushed this terribly flawed candidate

And a note to DJT.....   If you want to be that big of an influence in the GOP, do a better damned job in vetting our candiates so we aren't stuck with disasters like Oz and Walker.

Interesting comment....

It's one of the reasons I wish DJT would just go away.  He was the right guy at the right time in 2016. 

He could have been the right guy in 2020, but frankly he's been a disaster since he lost.  And his losing wasn't that bad in retrospect.  It revealed the democrats for what they are. 

Much better Biden be in office when Roe is overturned.


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« Reply #132 on: October 08, 2022, 09:52:40 am »
But this thread is about Masters. 

We know Kelly is a disaster. 

Masters has the vote of the right, but he seems bent on irritating the middle.  He's got enough going against him (with some of those old videos and his original position on abortion....which he changed) that he needs to focus on HIS message.  There were good statements made during the debate that somewhat caught me off-guard.  1st time I'd heard him tout some of it.  Should have been doing it all along and not just attacking Kelly. 

There are people who need hope and some sense of leadership.

Kelly's ads are actually better in that regard.

And it's where Lake is doing a good job...in presenting HER vision of the future and what SHE is going to be working for.  Much more coherent and "in control".

We'll see how it plays out...in less than 30 days. 
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« Reply #133 on: October 08, 2022, 09:59:53 am »
From my post (2) earlier.....   

After Walker's implosion the past 48 hours,Warnock will not win in a squeeker.  His margin wil now be 5-10.

Well, the skeleton in the closet wasn't the accusation from the Daily Beast.

It was, apparently the dam bursting affect his response has had on his son.

Wow.

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« Reply #134 on: October 09, 2022, 03:07:33 pm »
I had wondered why McConnell's PAC pulled money out of Arizona and sent it to Georgia.  I realize now that McConnell knew how to control Walker's vote.
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« Reply #135 on: October 09, 2022, 08:27:53 pm »
I just watched the debate, and Mark Kelly was atrocious.  McConnell needs to go all-in on this race --- dems are not getting a huge margin from hispanics in 2022.  In addition, there are competitive house seats at stake. 

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« Reply #136 on: October 09, 2022, 08:47:48 pm »
I just watched the debate, and Mark Kelly was atrocious.  McConnell needs to go all-in on this race --- 

McConnell and his SuperPAC have already abandoned Blake Masters (since he can't count on his vote for Senate GOP Leader).  Fortunately though, the NRSC (which McConnell doesn't control) is helping to fill the gap.
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« Reply #137 on: October 16, 2022, 12:02:49 pm »
I see some adds that attack Kelly, but I don't see much (and I certainly don't claim to see them all....so there is much I could be missing....but if I am missing it....so are others) about Masters and his positions.

And the things I see are not very exciting.

I think the GOP is just handing this one back to Schumer. 

What happens in 2024 ? 

We need to be working on that NOW !!!

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Re: Another Senate Race Is Slipping Away ?
« Reply #138 on: October 16, 2022, 12:03:46 pm »
I just watched the debate, and Mark Kelly was atrocious.  McConnell needs to go all-in on this race --- dems are not getting a huge margin from hispanics in 2022.  In addition, there are competitive house seats at stake. 

Kelly didn't do bad during the debate.

However, those places where Masters could gain advantage seem to be ignored.

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Re: Another Senate Race Is Slipping Away ?
« Reply #139 on: October 17, 2022, 01:38:06 am »
GOP wins AZ, GA, NV, OH, PA, WI.  Net +3.

Wildcards:  NH, WA, AK (anyone but Murkowski).
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Re: Another Senate Race Is Slipping Away ?
« Reply #140 on: October 17, 2022, 10:12:16 am »
GOP wins AZ, GA, NV, OH, PA, WI.  Net +3.

Wildcards:  NH, WA, AK (anyone but Murkowski).

Don't want to waste the buzz, but I'm just not optimistic, knowing the dims ability to successfully cheat.  2020 was just a test balloon.  In two years they have perfected the craft.....   Especially when it is allowed for a few select races.
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Re: Another Senate Race Is Slipping Away ?
« Reply #141 on: October 18, 2022, 01:28:25 am »
Don't want to waste the buzz, but I'm just not optimistic, knowing the dims ability to successfully cheat.  2020 was just a test balloon.  In two years they have perfected the craft.....   Especially when it is allowed for a few select races.

Someone's been at the dispensary toooooo long. 

It will take a freaking miracle for the gop morons to win the senate.

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Re: Another Senate Race Is Slipping Away ?
« Reply #142 on: October 18, 2022, 12:43:10 pm »
Taking the Senate won't be that difficult.  Preventing GOP Senators from voting with the Dems?  That's the impossible part.
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Re: Another Senate Race Is Slipping Away ?
« Reply #143 on: October 19, 2022, 08:22:58 am »
Back to the point of the thread.

Masters is going to get flushed. 

He's not a great candidate. 

He's getting waxed on the money side.

We need to be ready in 2024.

I like Sinema, but I'd rather we have a conservative (a true conservative....Sinema is more conservative that many GOPers) in there.

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Re: Another Senate Race Is Slipping Away ?
« Reply #144 on: October 19, 2022, 09:29:23 am »
Someone's been at the dispensary toooooo long. 

It will take a freaking miracle for the gop morons to win the senate.

???

I basically agreed, due to the wild card of electoral theft, and you insulted me by calling me a pot head?

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« Reply #145 on: October 19, 2022, 09:56:57 am »
???

I basically agreed, due to the wild card of electoral theft, and you insulted me by calling me a pot head?

Take a Hiker..... :cool:

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Re: Another Senate Race Is Slipping Away ?
« Reply #146 on: October 19, 2022, 10:41:41 am »
Back to the point of the thread.

Masters is going to get flushed. 

He's not a great candidate. 

He's getting waxed on the money side.

We need to be ready in 2024.

I like Sinema, but I'd rather we have a conservative (a true conservative....Sinema is more conservative that many GOPers) in there.

Not by money that originated within AZ.

The only poll that matters is on Nov 8th.

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Re: Another Senate Race Is Slipping Away ?
« Reply #147 on: October 19, 2022, 03:54:21 pm »
538 gives Trafalgar an A- rating, and they have Mark Kelly by a point.  It's going to be very close. 

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Re: Another Senate Race Is Slipping Away ?
« Reply #148 on: October 19, 2022, 09:32:01 pm »
???

I basically agreed, due to the wild card of electoral theft, and you insulted me by calling me a pot head?

Take a Hiker..... :cool:

Many apologies.....

I was referencing the poster you were quoting.

Sorry.

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Re: Another Senate Race Is Slipping Away ?
« Reply #149 on: October 19, 2022, 09:34:35 pm »
538 gives Trafalgar an A- rating, and they have Mark Kelly by a point.  It's going to be very close. 

That would be amazing.