BREAKING>>FBI raids Trump’s Mar-a-Lago

[mystery-ak]

Andy McCarthy: We have the 4th Amendment to prevent Mar-a-Lago type raids

[Bigun]

Andy McCarthy: We have had the 4th Amendment to prevent Mar-a-Lago type raids.

Fixed it!

[libertybele]

Fixed it!

Unfortunately true.  The fourth amendment is only applicable to the DEMS if it benefits their needs.

[roamer_1]

Oh he plays his charisma... That part is right.

But he is definitely a con. He's a chaos con. He lives to piss everybody off, and follows through with a martyr play - Just about every time. And he has done it all the way along. Long before his political career.

Everyone feels sorry for all the flak he takes, but I don't because I know he is a pig in sh*t. He LOVES this kinda thing. And often, mostly, he causes it on purpose... He likes to cause the meltdown - And it IS funny... But I think he does it because people that are out of their minds don't think very well.

I return to this by the way, before anybody gets bent around the axle... i really do not mean it to be derogatory. It ain't meant to be. Just commentating on how a player plays. What he DOES with that is a different issue, and could be taken either way.

Which you will notice I did not comment on (right here right now).

All I mean to say (and to reinforce) is that it should not be surprising that he would have dirt.

That's all the there that's there. 

[Elderberry]

Mar-a-Lago Raid: Swimming in a Sea of Anti-Trump Media ‘Bombshell’ Hype, Again

Legal Insurrection  by William A. Jacobson Saturday, August 13, 2022

https://legalinsurrection.com/2022/08/mar-a-lago-raid-swimming-in-a-sea-of-anti-trump-media-bombshell-hype-again/

This is a replay of the Russia Collusion hysteria, where media competed with one another for “scoops” to generate clicks and social media sociopaths competed for Twitter followers.

It’s deja vu all over again.

The mainstream media and well-credentialed social media lunatics particularly on Twitter, have so many bombshells. Too many to count. Trump stole the names of undercover US spies operating abroad, he has nuclear secrets he’s trying to peddle to the Saudis (somehow related to a loan to Jared), Trump’s lawyers lied to the feds, Trump sold nuclear secrets, and on and on and on. About the only report that sounds plausible is that Trump was in a rush to exit the White House and had staff throw stuff into boxes in a hurry:

    When it finally dawned on Donald Trump in the twilight of his presidency that he wouldn’t be living at the White House for another four years, he had a problem: He had barely packed and had to move out quickly.

    West Wing aides and government movers frantically tossed documents and other items into banker boxes that were shipped to a storage room at his Mar-a-Lago club in Florida along with other, previously packed records set aside by Trump, sometimes erratically so, according to two sources with knowledge of Trump’s move and records issues.

This is a replay of the Russia Collusion hysteria, where media competed with one another for “scoops” to generate clicks and social media sociopaths competed for Twitter followers. And nothing generated clicks better than predicting based on scoops that Trump was done:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxvFuKsWU1I

We have been here before.

In many ways. But not all. You know who never was raided?

This video created in 2016 is brilliant, and accurate:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIARMMtUdZQ

We are swimming in a sea of deception, as to the facts and the law. I repeat what I said soon after the Mar-a-Lago Raid

    Be very suspicious of anything you hear in the media attributable to anonymous sources. The supposed leaks from unidentified persons supposedly with knowledge are either FBI/DOJ whispering in the ear of reporter-scribes which may or may not reflect reality, or people who don’t have actual knowledge, or sources who exist only in the imagination of the reporters. It’s all an unreliable web of deception.

More: https://legalinsurrection.com/2022/08/mar-a-lago-raid-swimming-in-a-sea-of-anti-trump-media-bombshell-hype-again/

[Smokin Joe]

That's fine @Bigun  We have already proven we don't have to agree on everything.

I don't think the Constitution was violated... I think what you propose would be far worse.

Because if successful, every_single mishap in every election will be seized upon to decertify results and the winner of that mess will be the liberals. Mark my words.

That's why that firewall is there.

This was no mishap it was people who were not Constitutionally authorized to make election law doing so by edict. There is my beef. If my State has to follow the Constitution in that the legislature makes the election rules, and those other states do not, the results can unfairly and illegally affect the outcome of the election. (which they did in 2020).

If New York decided that illegals could vote for POTUS, not through the legislature, but some bureaucrat, that would diminish the value of citizens' votes all over the country.

If PA decides (again, some bureaucrat) that they'll count the ballots even if they exceed the number of voters, the legitimate votes of every other citizen in the country are diminished.

Let this shit continue, and enough electoral votes will be stolen to prevent legitimate wins.

Or you can believe Biden got 81,000,000 votes,and just enough of them in the dark of night after the counting had stopped in five states to overturn the results there. To deny the hearing of evidence from the aggrieved states by the court of primary jurisdiction was where this Republic stopped and the tin pot dictatorship began.

[Smokin Joe]

@roamer_1

It doesn't even have anything to do with that.

What it was all about was  the political drama. Their purpose was to try to make Trump SEEM to be guilty of everything under the sun in order to try to convince undecided voters to support some RINO instead of him in order to make it easier for the Dims to win the next Presidential election.

You watch,the alleged "evidence of Trump wrong-doing" will be leaked to Dim news sources to report as facts and speculate about if Trump will be forced to drop his run for President in order to defend himself in court..

This is nothing more and nothing less than political theater.

Yep.
Like having a long arrest record with no convictions, the only evidence there is that someone is being harassed, not they ever were a criminal.

[roamer_1]

This was no mishap it was people who were not Constitutionally authorized to make election law doing so by edict. There is my beef.

I've got some to say to all that @Smokin Joe , but I am no longer replying to that sidebar. It was hijacking the thread.

[corbe]

   I will start the Thread 'Battle of the Mountain Men' @Smokin Joe @roamer_1 if yall can keep it on Constitutional Election Law or Naked Women whichever suites You.

[Cyber Liberty]

The post I reacted to was a taunt, and I had been trying to be nice, because Cyber wanted the hi-jack ended. So I had reason to be unreasonable... Even if it wasn't wise... Or elegant.

Yeah, that worked out pretty freakin' good.

[DCPatriot]

I return to this by the way, before anybody gets bent around the axle... i really do not mean it to be derogatory. It ain't meant to be. Just commentating on how a player plays. What he DOES with that is a different issue, and could be taken either way.

Which you will notice I did not comment on (right here right now).

All I mean to say (and to reinforce) is that it should not be surprising that he would have dirt.

That's all the there that's there. 

LOL!  You are soooooo FOS, @roamer_1 !     

[Right_in_Virginia]

[roamer_1]

LOL!  You are soooooo FOS, @roamer_1 !     

I don't see how you got the notion that I obfuscate my thoughts @DCPatriot .

I said what I meant exactly, as I always do.

[roamer_1]

Yeah, that worked out pretty freakin' good.

 

[corbe]

  Thats Unfortunate, @roamer_1 that some Briefers see you as more a Ted Kaczynski type than how I see you.

[Hoodat]

Roamer wouldn't waste his time taking a 600-mile bus trip just to mail a letter.  But Kaczinsky did have a special quality (drive and purpose above and beyond) that I do deeply admire.

(This is not to be construed to say that I admire bombers, but that I am intrigued with anyone with that much dedication, who would ride a bike without tires, grow his own food, and pay his electric bill with aluminum cans and returnable bottles just to stay true to his 'mission'.)

[corbe]

   I don't know @Hoodat He's pretty stubborn.

[Sighlass]

Roamer is welcome at my fire pit any day of the week. It is starting to cool a bit now in the evening, about time to have another burn and some Hobo dinners. Heck he is welcome to my booze too (since I no longer even drink socially because of my blood thinners).

[Right_in_Virginia]

"HAPPENING NOW: Trump supporters line street to Mar-A-Lago following FBI raid which took place at the property on Monday.   Supporters have been here all week since."  (Video)

https://mobile.twitter.com/JayneZirkle/status/1558533323361845249

[mystery-ak]

President Trump and Breitbart Accused of "Doxxing" FBI Agents Who Signed a Public Document
By streiff | Aug 13, 2022 11:00 PM ET


In the aftermath of the raid on President Trump’s Mar-A-Lago estate, one of the many skirmishes was over the search warrant. President Trump complained about the conduct of the search, but because the Department of Justice filed the warrant under seal, preventing its release. The left pointed out that the FBI was required to leave President Trump a copy of the warrant, and he should release his copy if he felt abused.

excerpt:

Late Friday, President Trump did just that. Using Breitbart News as his vehicle, we could see the entire search warrant.



more
https://redstate.com/streiff/2022/08/13/president-trump-and-breitbart-accused-of-doxxing-fbi-agents-who-signed-a-public-document-n611860

[mystery-ak]

Trump requests privileged records seized by FBI be returned — on Truth Social
by Daniel Chaitin, Deputy News Editor |
 | August 14, 2022 08:49 AM
 | Updated Aug 14, 2022, 09:16 AM


Former President Donald Trump said he wants any privileged records seized during the FBI's raid on Mar-a-Lago returned to him.

The declaration was made not in court, but on Trump's social media platform Sunday morning after Fox News reported agents seized boxes containing records covered by attorney-client privilege and potentially executive privilege from the former president's Florida residence.

TRUMP CLAIMS 'STANDING ORDER' DECLASSIFIED RECORDS AS SOON AS THEY LEFT OVAL OFFICE

"Oh great! It has just been learned that the FBI, in its now famous raid of Mar-a-Lago, took boxes of privileged 'attorney-client' material, and also 'executive' privileged material, which they knowingly should not have taken," Trump said on Truth Social. "By copy of this TRUTH, I respectfully request that these documents be immediately returned to the location from which they were taken. Thank you!"

Sources told Fox News that Trump's team asked the Justice Department if it would support an independent special master to review the records, but the agency said it would oppose the request. The DOJ and FBI declined to comment, the news outlet said.

Andrew McCarthy, the former chief assistant U.S. attorney in the Southern District of New York, said on Fox News that Trump could make a motion under the rules of criminal procedure to get his property back, but offered some words of caution.

"I'd be a little leery to do that if I thought they were investigating me because if you take a position and then they charge you, you’re kind of locked into what you said," McCarthy said. "So if he doesn’t absolutely need that material back, I think I’d lay low in the tall grass for a while and see what they do."

more
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/trump-return-privileged-records-truth-social

[Right_in_Virginia]

[DCPatriot]

[Cyber Liberty]

 

[Right_in_Virginia]

[Right_in_Virginia]

[Right_in_Virginia]

Julie Kelly
@julie_kelly2

DOJ subpoenas security video so Trump can’t release it. The mafia has more integrity.

8:22 PM · Aug 13, 2022·Twitter for iPhone

[Bigun]

Julie Kelly
@julie_kelly2

DOJ subpoenas security video so Trump can’t release it. The mafia has more integrity.

8:22 PM · Aug 13, 2022·Twitter for iPhone

 

[mountaineer]

May already have been posted on one of the many raid-related threads, but ...

Published August 11, 2022 5:17pm EDT
National Archives official who notified DOJ in Trump probe declined to do the same over Clinton emails
Ferriero said he didn't believe it was 'appropriate or necessary' to notify the DOJ about Hillary Clinton's emails in 2015
By Thomas Catenacci | Fox News

The official who triggered the federal probe into former President Donald Trump's handling of classified documents opted against doing the same concerning Hillary Clinton's email scandal.

David Ferriero, who served as the director of the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) from November 2009 until he retired this past April, said in a February letter to House Oversight Committee leadership that his staff had started communicating with the Department of Justice (DOJ) earlier this year.

In January, Trump returned 15 boxes of documents from his time in office to NARA after the agency notified him the material belonged to the federal government. ...

FOX News

[Cyber Liberty]

May already have been posted on one of the many raid-related threads, but ...FOX News

He returned the "15 boxes" in January??

[Hoodat]

Published August 11, 2022 5:17pm EDT
National Archives official who notified DOJ in Trump probe declined to do the same over Clinton emails
Ferriero said he didn't believe it was 'appropriate or necessary' to notify the DOJ about Hillary Clinton's emails in 2015
By Thomas Catenacci | Fox News

The official who triggered the federal probe into former President Donald Trump's handling of classified documents opted against doing the same concerning Hillary Clinton's email scandal.

Whoa, hold the phone.  The statutes cited in the warrant have ZERO connection to the National Archives.  None.  Zip.  Nada.  So if this is true that some National Archives official triggered this probe, then DOJ has a serious problem on their hands.  Because they issued a warrant that had nothing to with the probe.

[Hoodat]

He returned the "15 boxes" in January??

See:

https://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,477379.msg2689179.html#msg2689179

https://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,477379.msg2689198.html#msg2689198

[mystery-ak]

Trump Ally Says He Knows What the FBI Was Looking for in Mar-a-Lago Raid
By Victoria Taft Aug 13, 2022 8:37 PM ET

The lead investigator in the House of Representatives committee on the Trump Russia hoax says he knows why the FBI raided former president Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago resort, and it didn’t have anything to do with scary-sounding “classified documents relating to nuclear weapons,” as the DOJ got The Washington Post to spread on its behalf.

Kash Patel believes something more is afoot than a beef between Trump, the General Services Administration (GSA), and the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA).

The former federal national security prosecutor and Trump Administration Chief of Staff for the Department of Defense believes the FBI raided Trump’s resort to seek and destroy any documents related to the Trump-Russia hoax — Russiagate — that Trump had previously declassified back in 2020 and 2021.

The former federal prosecutor told Fox News anchor Martha MacCallum that Donald Trump issued “sweeping declassification orders” in 2020 and 2021, including the Russiagate and Hillary Clinton email investigation documents.

https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1558173138885672960

When that is added to the comments by the Director for National Intelligence (DNI) in the Trump Administration, John Ratcliffe, you begin to wonder what’s really at play here.

Ratcliffe told Fox Business anchor Larry Kudlow, another former Trump official, that “surely this is not about classified documents and the president being in possession of those.” He said, “it has to be more than that because the Department of Justice and the FBI have already set a standard that makes it virtually impossible to prosecute a case like that.”

The Washington Examiner reported that Ratcliffe claimed this was settled back in 2016. “As people talk about Espionage Act and classified documents and all of that, the standard was set in 2016,” with the Hillary Clinton email probe. He said, “the Department of Justice and FBI said six years ago, you gotta be able to prove intent. He’s already denied that he had the intent to do it.”

more
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/victoria-taft/2022/08/13/trump-ally-says-he-knows-what-the-fbi-was-looking-for-in-mar-a-lago-raid-n1620861

[Bigun]

Trump Ally Says He Knows What the FBI Was Looking for in Mar-a-Lago Raid
By Victoria Taft Aug 13, 2022 8:37 PM ET

The lead investigator in the House of Representatives committee on the Trump Russia hoax says he knows why the FBI raided former president Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago resort, and it didn’t have anything to do with scary-sounding “classified documents relating to nuclear weapons,” as the DOJ got The Washington Post to spread on its behalf.

Kash Patel believes something more is afoot than a beef between Trump, the General Services Administration (GSA), and the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA).

The former federal national security prosecutor and Trump Administration Chief of Staff for the Department of Defense believes the FBI raided Trump’s resort to seek and destroy any documents related to the Trump-Russia hoax — Russiagate — that Trump had previously declassified back in 2020 and 2021.

The former federal prosecutor told Fox News anchor Martha MacCallum that Donald Trump issued “sweeping declassification orders” in 2020 and 2021, including the Russiagate and Hillary Clinton email investigation documents.

https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1558173138885672960

When that is added to the comments by the Director for National Intelligence (DNI) in the Trump Administration, John Ratcliffe, you begin to wonder what’s really at play here.

Ratcliffe told Fox Business anchor Larry Kudlow, another former Trump official, that “surely this is not about classified documents and the president being in possession of those.” He said, “it has to be more than that because the Department of Justice and the FBI have already set a standard that makes it virtually impossible to prosecute a case like that.”

The Washington Examiner reported that Ratcliffe claimed this was settled back in 2016. “As people talk about Espionage Act and classified documents and all of that, the standard was set in 2016,” with the Hillary Clinton email probe. He said, “the Department of Justice and FBI said six years ago, you gotta be able to prove intent. He’s already denied that he had the intent to do it.”

more
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/victoria-taft/2022/08/13/trump-ally-says-he-knows-what-the-fbi-was-looking-for-in-mar-a-lago-raid-n1620861

  As I have been saying here for days!

[Hoodat]

Kash Patel believes something more is afoot than a beef between Trump, the General Services Administration (GSA), and the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA).

This order came straight from the Jan 6 committee.  They know they are running out of time, and they got desperate.  And in the week before the raid, there were already hints made public by committee members of Trump's 'egregious' offenses regarding classified documents.  Remember the toilet photo?

[mystery-ak]

August 14, 2022 5:42am EDT
Trump lashes out at FBI amid fallout from Mar-a-Lago raid: 'See what they were willing to do'
The former president's rant came after the FBI conducted a raid on his Mar-a-Lago estate in Palm Beach, Florida
By Lawrence Richard | Fox News

Former President Donald Trump lashed out at the FBI on social media Saturday night, calling their integrity into question days after they conducted a raid on his private Florida residence.

In a series of posts, Trump called the FBI "corrupt" and claimed their raid at Mar-a-Lago on Monday was just the latest in a series of attempts to undermine him. These claims are unsubstantiated.

"The FBI has a long and unrelenting history of being corrupt. Just look back to the days of J. Edgar Hoover," the former president wrote on TRUTH Social, referencing the first director of the federal bureau.

Trump added: "In the modern era, nothing has changed except that it has gotten far worse."

The former president then made a series of unverified claims involving former FBI Director James Comey, former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, former FBI agent Peter Strzok, and former FBI attorney Lisa Page. He also referenced the way the FBI impacted the 2016 presidential election.

"Look at Comey, McCabe, Strzok and lover Lisa Page. Check out the brilliantly written but damning I.G. Reports. See what they were willing to do in order to get Crooked Hillary Clinton elected (they failed), and got caught! They spied on my campaign, pushed the FAKE Dossier, and illegally used the FISA Court," Trump claimed.

more
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-lashes-fbi-fallout-mar-a-lago-raid-see-what-they-willing

[Bigun]

https://twitter.com/ScottPresler/status/1558849427720241152

[DCPatriot]

https://twitter.com/ScottPresler/status/1558849427720241152

???

Evidently, we've learned nothing since 2020.

The guy couldn't fill a Michigan diner in deer season as the Dem candidate.

And yet, in the end, the got 81 million votes.  The most in history!!   

[Right_in_Virginia]

[Bigun]

 

[Hoodat]

The guy couldn't fill a Michigan diner in deer season as the Dem candidate.

And yet, in the end, the got 81 million votes.  The most in history!!

Never forget:  Inauguration Day.  And this is the crowd that showed up.

[Idiot]

August 14, 2022 5:42am EDT
Trump lashes out at FBI amid fallout from Mar-a-Lago raid: 'See what they were willing to do'
The former president's rant came after the FBI conducted a raid on his Mar-a-Lago estate in Palm Beach, Florida
By Lawrence Richard | Fox News

Former President Donald Trump lashed out at the FBI on social media Saturday night, calling their integrity into question days after they conducted a raid on his private Florida residence.

In a series of posts, Trump called the FBI "corrupt" and claimed their raid at Mar-a-Lago on Monday was just the latest in a series of attempts to undermine him. These claims are unsubstantiated.

"The FBI has a long and unrelenting history of being corrupt. Just look back to the days of J. Edgar Hoover," the former president wrote on TRUTH Social, referencing the first director of the federal bureau.

Trump added: "In the modern era, nothing has changed except that it has gotten far worse."

The former president then made a series of unverified claims involving former FBI Director James Comey, former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, former FBI agent Peter Strzok, and former FBI attorney Lisa Page. He also referenced the way the FBI impacted the 2016 presidential election.

"Look at Comey, McCabe, Strzok and lover Lisa Page. Check out the brilliantly written but damning I.G. Reports. See what they were willing to do in order to get Crooked Hillary Clinton elected (they failed), and got caught! They spied on my campaign, pushed the FAKE Dossier, and illegally used the FISA Court," Trump claimed.

more
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-lashes-fbi-fallout-mar-a-lago-raid-see-what-they-willing

The guy has nads of steel...

[aligncare]

Yet, people lament: But, he didn’t get the swamp drained!

No American president ever had such a hostile environment coming into office. Honeymoon period? Hahaha. Remember those?

The only reason they raided Mar-a-Lago was because they were terrified he would run for president (and win) in 2024. So, they raid his private residence on trumped up charges just to muddy him up in hopes his supporters will abandon him. Disgusting! And it won’t work.

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

Trump never had 60 votes in the Senate so his ability to drain the swamp was limited.

[catfish1957]

Trump never had 60 votes in the Senate so his ability to drain the swamp was limited.

You make a valid point.

At least not legislatively

[mystery-ak]

Fmr AG Mukasey: FBI Raid ‘Attempt to Find Evidence Tying’ Trump to January 6

Jeff Poor 14 Aug 2022

During an appearance on FNC’s “Sunday Morning Futures,” former Attorney General Michael Mukasey argued the real motivation of the FBI raid on former President Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago home last week was to find evidence tying Trump to the January 6 Capitol Hill riot.

Mukasey suggested the raid and the timing of the seizure of Rep. Scott Perry’s (R-PA) cell phone suggested ties to January 6.

“I think my view of this is rather more closely tied to more current events than the Russia collusion episode,” he said. “And I think it’s a view that I share with Andy McCarthy, who has also been on your air. And that is that this has more to do with gathering documents relating to the January 6 investigation than it does with — really with anything else. That, I think, ties more closely to the — what was going on at the time. You recall that there was — there were grand jury subpoenas served on White House counsel Pat Cipollone, that there was a search of Eastman and another colleague … who — which also related to January — Clark — which also related to January 6, although we were told that it related to an inspector general’s investigation, which it could not have related to because the inspector general is not a law enforcement officer and could not have gotten a search warrant. The day afterwards, they seized Congressman Perry’s telephone.”

“He was also involved in the January 6 events,” Mukasey continued. “And the categories of documents that they were authorized by this warrant to seek, there were — there were three statutes cited. Only one of them has anything to do with — conceivably with classified documents. The other two don’t. The other two are general statutes relating to obstruction and interference with government functions. The categories of documents that were authorized to be seized included two that were so broad as to include basically every piece of paper there. They authorized the seizure of classified — of documents with classification markings, but anything that was in the same box or in the same location that were stored together. That’s essentially anything in the same room. They also authorized the seizure of any document created during the period of the Trump administration. That’s everything. So, you put that all together with the fact that they have got an active January 6 investigation, and I — that’s what I think it relates to.”

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2022/08/14/fmr-ag-mukasey-fbi-raid-attempt-to-find-evidence-tying-trump-to-january-6/

[mystery-ak]

‘Obstructing justice on what, you jerks? Stuff that you had planted…’ Devin Nunes unloads on Trump raid
August 15, 2022 | Ashley Hill

CEO of Trump Media & Technology Group Devin Nunes had a heated round table about the FBI ransacking former President Donald Trump’s home that he argued was “basically an investigation in search of a crime.”


more
https://www.bizpacreview.com/2022/08/15/obstructing-justice-on-what-you-jerks-stuff-that-you-had-planted-devin-nunes-unloads-on-trump-raid-1273624/

[Bigun]

Trump never had 60 votes in the Senate so his ability to drain the swamp was limited.

This is true. And many senate Republicans were working just as hard to torpedo his efforts on that front as any Democrat!

[EdinVA]

This is true. And many senate Republicans were working just as hard to torpedo his efforts on that front as any Democrat!

And Trump did shut down the government 3 times to get congress to reduce those outrageous funding bills but the republicans were to focused on big bad Trump than doing their jobs.

[Bigun]

And Trump did shut down the government 3 times to get congress to reduce those outrageous funding bills but the republicans were to focused on big bad Trump than doing their jobs.

  They are every bit as interested in preserving their swamp as democrats are.