BREAKING>>FBI raids Trump’s Mar-a-Lago

[roamer_1]

Let's imagine for a moment that the person is a member of his Secret Service detail.  If this agent can't be trusted to act in good faith with the person he is sworn to protect, then how can he be trusted to protect his life?  Let's say a gunman approaches Trump on the street.  Will this agent risk his life to protect the President?  Or will he simply step aside and tell the gunman to have at it?

Trump needs to know he can count on the people around him.

If they wanted him off'd he'd be off'd. Which makes me wonder why he's still around, as jacked up as they are.

[corbe]

I don't like him. I sure as hell won't vote for him. But they are gonna make me defend him. And it pisses me off. Wait and see. There'd better be a there there.

   @roamer_1

Robert Earl Keen | Cowboys Don't Cry | The Next Waltz


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90sgIUSX1KU

[roamer_1]

I amended the post you responded to @roamer_1 They will do anything and everything they can.

Still a very bad move. If this goes loud, they cannot win.

[Bigun]

Let's imagine for a moment that the person is a member of his Secret Service detail.  If this agent can't be trusted to act in good faith with the person he is sworn to protect, then how can he be trusted to protect his life?  Let's say a gunman approaches Trump on the street.  Will this agent risk his life to protect the President?  Or will he simply step aside and tell the gunman to have at it?

Trump needs to know he can count on the people around him.

You actually believe there is a real live person in Trump's orbit doing this? I don't! I think they just made it up and took it to a MAGISTRATE they knew would sign it!

[Hoodat]

Still a very bad move. If this goes loud, they cannot win.

Germany's National Socialists went loud in 1933.  They got away with it for 12 years.

[Bigun]

Still a very bad move. If this goes loud, they cannot win.

Desperate people do desperate things.

[mystery-ak]

https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/1559279496024543233

[roamer_1]

   @roamer_1

Robert Earl Keen | Cowboys Don't Cry | The Next Waltz

Ain't it though?

[Bigun]

https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/1559279496024543233

And because it would expose their BS for all to see! Can't have that!

[DCPatriot]

If they wanted him off'd he'd be off'd. Which makes me wonder why he's still around, as jacked up as they are.

Because he has something they need...it's his insurance.

[Hoodat]

You actually believe there is a real live person in Trump's orbit doing this? I don't! I think they just made it up and took it to a MAGISTRATE they knew would sign it!

Well it won't be the first time a Democrat filed a false affidavit.  (See:  David Boies, Florida, 2000)

Which is all the more reason the judge should release the affidavit.  This isn't a FISA court.  It isn't a federal appellate court.  it isn't even Federal circuit court.  This is lowly magistrate court.  This case may make it to Atlanta in the near future.

[libertybele]

Let's imagine for a moment that the person is a member of his Secret Service detail.  If this agent can't be trusted to act in good faith with the person he is sworn to protect, then how can he be trusted to protect his life?  Let's say a gunman approaches Trump on the street.  Will this agent risk his life to protect the President?  Or will he simply step aside and tell the gunman to have at it?

Trump needs to know he can count on the people around him.

At this point, I believe he now knows that he can't trust anyone; I still suspect Kushner has already sold him down the river.

They've taken his passport; he has nowhere to go. He has already been found guilty of whatever the left wants to throw at him.

We should all be very afraid.  We no longer have protections under the Bill of Rights.

[roamer_1]

Germany's National Socialists went loud in 1933.  They got away with it for 12 years.

Germany wasn't nearly so well armed.

[roamer_1]

Because he has something they need...it's his insurance.

Goes back to the original idea that he's got big dirt. But then they would not be leaning on him, would they?

[corbe]

   Sure Is.

[Bigun]

Well it won't be the first time a Democrat filed a false affidavit.  (See:  David Boies, Florida, 2000)

Which is all the more reason the judge should release the affidavit.  This isn't a FISA court.  It isn't a federal appellate court.  it isn't even Federal circuit court.  This is lowly magistrate court.  This case may make it to Atlanta in the near future.

If they were willing to repeatedly lie to FISA court judges what makes ANYONE think they wouldn't here?

READ THIS: https://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,477649.msg2692046.html#msg2692046

Follow the embedded links! @Hoodat

[roamer_1]

Desperate people do desperate things.

Makes no sense. 

[Hoodat]

US District Court for the Southern District of Florida:

5 Trump appointees
5 Obama appointees
6 GW Bush appointees
7 Clinton appointees
3 GHW Bush appointees
1 Reagan
1 Carter
1 Nixon
3 Vacancies

[catfish1957]

I don't like him. I sure as hell won't vote for him. But they are gonna make me defend him. And it pisses me off. Wait and see. There'd better be a there there.

You defend him?  That'll be the day.......

[DCPatriot]

Goes back to the original idea that he's got big dirt. But then they would not be leaning on him, would they?

Oh, they're going to keep trying him publicly...hoping that by the Spring of 2024 he'll be ruined.

My question is why hasn't he released/leaked enough to give a little balance out here??

[Hoodat]

You defend him?  That'll be the day.......

That day is right around the corner.

[libertybele]

Germany wasn't nearly so well armed.

Again, what do you think those 86,000 weaponized IRS agents are for??

Let's see ... martial law will be declared, so no mid-term elections (not that the election would make a whole lot of difference anyways).  Gun confiscation.  UN troops assisting the take down of our country (O'Bammy's illegal small arms treaty). FEMA camps for those who resist.  That's the way I've seen things for awhile. Those 'rumor's surfaced during the last several years of the Bush administration. I had a small ray of hope when Trump had this country on a much more positive course.

They've come for him and they are coming for us next.

How I wished I had listened to my gut and moved to a rural area; I couldn't leave family behind.

[corbe]

    We'll be there, again.

[libertybele]

Oh, they're going to keep trying him publicly...hoping that by the Spring of 2024 he'll be ruined.

My question is why hasn't he released/leaked enough to give a little balance out here??

A) He knows his life or his family's life is in dager and B) they probably seized any evidence, and C) he has nowhere to escape to

[Hoodat]

    We'll be there, again.

Forget, hell.

[roamer_1]

Oh, they're going to keep trying him publicly...hoping that by the Spring of 2024 he'll be ruined.

My question is why hasn't he released/leaked enough to give a little balance out here??

Depends on the dirt, I guess... If it's a big play, one and done... It's hard to pull that trigger. If it's a spray and play thing, where he could let out a little at a time... knock over a few minor players to make em sweat... more the former, less the latter I would suppose.

[catfish1957]

That day is right around the corner.

Roamer defend Trump?  In what alternate universe?

[libertybele]

    We'll be there, again.

Pretty hard to do when U.N. troops will be occupying largely populated areas, seizing guns ad putting people into camps.

[catfish1957]

Pretty hard to do when U.N. troops will be occupying largely populated areas, seizing guns ad putting people into camps.

Teal helmets make easy targets.....



The moment a UN army steps foot into this country,  20,000,000  patriots will take up arms.

[roamer_1]

Again, what do you think those 86,000 weaponized IRS agents are for??

Like I said... 86000 couldn't take Kansas. All it would do is piss Kansas off. And you've got ALL of flyover country... ALL of it redneck... All of it armed to the teeth by nature. You've got Appalachia, the Ozarks, and the Rockies...

They threw everything they had at those barren mountains of Afghanistan and couldn't take em.
How the hell are they gonna take three mountain ranges and all the land between? How do they take the Swamps?

That's a damn tall order there, sister. It can't be done.
So calm down. There's a long way to go here.

[roamer_1]

Roamer defend Trump?  In what alternate universe?

I have before.

[Bigun]

Roamer defend Trump?  In what alternate universe?

Perhaps he's realized he wouldn't be defending only Trump but himself and all of us as well.

[roamer_1]

Perhaps he's realized he wouldn't be defending only Trump but himself and all of us as well.

No... As always, it's the principle of the thing...

Surprise! 

[libertybele]

Teal helmets make easy targets.....



The moment a UN army steps foot into this country,  20,000,000  patriots will take up arms.

I doubt UN troops will be easily recognizable and chances are they are already in place -- that was the rumor back during W's administration. He shut down military bases and revamped them to house UN troops to assist with the fall of our Republic.

There used to be a list of those bases.  All I could find;

https://www.encyclopedia.com/history/dictionaries-thesauruses-pictures-and-press-releases/military-base-closings

[corbe]

    2020 wasn't the first elections those ba$bleep stole.  LBJ (Box 13) and later with Kennedy grabbed the main prize from Nixon.

[Bigun]

    2020 wasn't the first elections those ba$bleep stole.  LBJ (Box 13) and later with Kennedy grabbed the main prize from Nixon.

Very true @corbe

[Right_in_Virginia]

Oh, they're going to keep trying him publicly...hoping that by the Spring of 2024 he'll be ruined.

Don't forget @DCPatriot  ---- they're going after his supporters through him.

Franklin figured this out at our nation's birth: 

[Hoodat]

I have before.

This is true.

[libertybele]

Don't forget @DCPatriot  ---- they're going after his supporters through him.

Franklin figured this out at our nation's birth: 

I agree, only it's going to take both conservatives and liberals of ALL races and I just don't see that happening. 'They' divided us long ago.

[mystery-ak]

The Department of Justice filed a motion on Monday opposing the release of the affidavit that was used to justify the search of former President Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago home.

"If disclosed, the affidavit would serve as a roadmap to the government’s ongoing investigation, providing specific details about its direction and likely course, in a manner that is highly likely to compromise future investigative steps," the 13-page filing says.

"The fact that this investigation implicates highly classified materials further underscores the need to protect the integrity of the investigation and exacerbates the potential for harm if information is disclosed to the public prematurely or improperly."

more here
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/justice-department-opposes-release-affidavit-justifying-fbi-search-trump-home

[sneakypete]

From what venue?  Where did these crimes actually occur?  From everything I've seen, all these documents were sent to his house in Florida.  So any alleged crime had to have occurred there.  Yet they have formed a double-secret grand jury inside the DC Beltway.  Is there any part of the Constitution that they aren't pissing on yet?

@Hoodat  @libertybele

The good news here is this isn't "Joe Sixpack" they are messing with. It is a guy that can afford to hire a whole damn HERD to top lawyers,and will.

The two words that will scare the DNC the most are "speedy trial" because they dream of dragging this out right through the elections.

[sneakypete]

86000 storm troopers couldn't take Kansas.

@roamer_1

And you REALLY have to question just how many of that 86k are going to just blindly follow what they know to be un-Constitutional orders.

[Bigun]

No... As always, it's the principle of the thing...

Surprise! 

They are not mutually exclusive.

[libertybele]

@Hoodat  @libertybele

The good news here is this isn't "Joe Sixpack" they are messing with. It is a guy that can afford to hire a whole damn HERD to top lawyers,and will.

The two words that will scare the DNC the most are "speedy trial" because they dream of dragging this out right through the elections.

@sneakypete  At this point, Trump having a team of lawyers that he can trust may become difficult.

[libertybele]

@roamer_1

And you REALLY have to question just how many of that 86k are going to just blindly follow what they know to be un-Constitutional orders.

I don't see IRS agents as being too concerned with the Constitution; they are being weaponized and I'm sure being paid rather handsomely.

[roamer_1]

@roamer_1

And you REALLY have to question just how many of that 86k are going to just blindly follow what they know to be un-Constitutional orders.

@sneakypete

If it were MIL or LEO sworn, I would be with you. Because I know what their oath means to them.

But 86k is a large but manageable number to weed out the contrary and indoctrinate the rest... As an enforcement arm of a technically non-LEO bureaucracy - I don't know what 'sworn' means.

 

[roamer_1]

They are not mutually exclusive.

Right. Forgive me, but to me they are, generally. I follow principles, not people... I have been betrayed enough in my life that I can count on one hand the folks I truly trust.

BUT, when the feds pull 'color of law' bullsh*t like this - And it IS color of law, plain on its face - I don't care who they are doing it to. I will rise against that on the principle of it alone.

[sneakypete]

@sneakypete  At this point, Trump having a team of lawyers that he can trust may become difficult.

@libertybele

Is there even such a creature as a lawyer that can be trusted?

Don't forget,they are ready and willing to argue either side of a case,depending on who pays them.

[Bigun]

Right. Forgive me, but to me they are, generally. I follow principles, not people... I have been betrayed enough in my life that I can count on one hand the folks I truly trust.

BUT, when the feds pull 'color of law' bullsh*t like this - And it IS color of law, plain on its face - I don't care who they are doing it to. I will rise against that on the principle of it alone.

Yeah! And that fits with all I have said about it.

[Idiot]

I don't like him. I sure as hell won't vote for him. But they are gonna make me defend him. And it pisses me off. Wait and see. There'd better be a there there.

Holy Cow!  Hell just froze over!