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Brett Baier reporting that Biden and Admin, Chuckie knew this was going to happen going into this past weekend..

Is it a coincidence that this past weekend, Biden took the very unusual step of NOT going to Delaware?
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Is it a coincidence that this past weekend, Biden took the very unusual step of NOT going to Delaware?

If this is true they are all just as guilty as the leaker...the leaker had to contact someone about his plans...
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Warren: Congress ‘Gets the Final Word’ on Roe v. Wade — It Is ‘on the Ballot’

Tuesday, on CNN’s “At This Hour,” Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) reacted to the leak of the Supreme Court’s draft opinion overturning the Roe v. Wade ruling.

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2022/05/03/warren-congress-gets-the-final-word-on-roe-v-wade-it-is-on-the-ballot/
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Warren: Congress ‘Gets the Final Word’ on Roe v. Wade — It Is ‘on the Ballot’

Tuesday, on CNN’s “At This Hour,” Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) reacted to the leak of the Supreme Court’s draft opinion overturning the Roe v. Wade ruling.

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2022/05/03/warren-congress-gets-the-final-word-on-roe-v-wade-it-is-on-the-ballot/

I guess this is the hill Dems are willing to die on.
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If the Wise Latina leaked the ruling she can be impeached.  If it turns out to her be her clerk that leaked then the FBI gets involved and he's facing federal jail time.

It ain't gonna lead back to a Justice. They ain't that dumb. There will be a penny ante bagholder to take the rap.

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If the Wise Latina leaked the ruling she can be impeached.  If it turns out to her be her clerk that leaked then the FBI gets involved and he's facing federal jail time.

Who is going to impeach her?

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If the court allows the illegal leaking of a memo to "taint" a decision already made we will never have another decision unpopular with the left.

Yep. But then, how will we ever know the decision was 'already made'? That assumes one can trust the narrative.

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NO! It isn't.  Not after they so recently punted in Texas vs Pennsylvania.

...Which is why I don't trust the narrative... I don't believe the right-facing justices suddenly grew a pair. Alito and Thomas, sure. Gorsuch, Barrett, maybe. Roberts - He ain't had a pair since he got there, and I don't think Kavanaugh is far from Roberts.

Mind you it would take ALL of them.
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Who is going to impeach her?

Another reason why the mid-terms are so damned important.

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Who is going to impeach her?

It would be Congress and it would have to be after the November mid terms.
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It would be Congress and it would have to be after the November mid terms.

Would also require successful conviction in the Senate btw.

We've already impeached Samuel Chase, a USSC Justice, way back in the 1700's I think, it died in the Senate I think.

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Would also require successful conviction in the Senate btw.

We've already impeached Samuel Chase, a USSC Justice, way back in the 1700's I think, it died in the Senate I think.

True.  But I think this one would actually get an up vote in both houses. Just my opinion though.
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Chief Justice John Roberts launches investigation into REAL Roe v. Wade leak and insists it is NOT the Supreme Court's final decision
Daily Mail/UK, May 3, 2022

Chief Justice John Roberts confirmed the authenticity of the leaked draft opinion indicating the Supreme Court would upend Roe v. Wade as he announced an investigation into the source of the 'betrayal.'

'To the extent this betrayal of the confidences of the Court was intended to undermine the integrity of our operations, it will not succeed. The work of the Court will not be affected in any way,' Roberts wrote in a Tuesday morning statement.

'We at the Court are blessed to have a workforce - permanent employees and law clerks alike - intensely loyal to the institution and dedicated to the rule of law. Court employees have an exemplary and important tradition of respecting the confidentiality of the judicial process and upholding the trust of the Court. This was a singular and egregious breach of that trust that is an affront to the Court and the community of public servants who work here.'

'I have directed the Marshal of the Court to launch an investigation into the source of the leak,' Roberts added.

Roberts said that though the document was authentic, it does not represent the 'final decision' of any members of the court.


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‘Must Pursue Criminal Charges’: Mitch McConnell Demands Investigation into Supreme Court Leak

Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-KY) on Tuesday demanded a probe and, if appropriate, criminal charges to rectify the Supreme Court’s leak that revealed Roe v. Wade may be overturned.

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Mitch won't do a damned thing, and they know it.

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Mitch won't do a damned thing, and they know it.
I don't think Mitch has any jurisdiction here anyway.
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I don't think Mitch has any jurisdiction here anyway.

Only the Chief Justice does.
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From post 53:
"AOC: Supreme Court 'coming for' gay marriage, civil rights after abortion ruling"

We can only hope.

Lemmmeessseeee here...
This leak is of a "draft" opinion written by Alito in February, right...?

Do the Justices who would be joining him have their names affixed to it?
If so, is Roberts' name there?

My guess is that when this opinion was first written, the original vote was:
5 - to repeal (the 5 justices "on the right", other than Roberts
3 - nay votes (the 3 leftist justices)
1 - undecided (Roberts)

Obviously, the leak is intended to arouse enough rabble to persuade/coerce some justices on the right to change their minds and alter their votes.

These justices WOULD NOT be:
Thomas, Gorsuch, or Alito.
I'm confident their will is strong enough to resist.

They MIGHT be:
Kavanaugh, Barrett, and Roberts.

One would think Kavanaugh had his will steeled by his confirmation hearing. Then again, he was a buddy of Roberts, or something like that?

The left may hope that Barrett can be badgered into submission.
Whether she can or not, is an unknown (for now).

Roberts... well... he's not trustworthy. His flip-flop on obamacare proved that.

Having said this, if the "5 for the right" hold tight, the final ruling is a foregone conclusion. The "leak" is going to kick up a lot of dust, but the damage is already done. Whether it be five to four or six to three, the Roe decision looks to be history.

This was intended to be the final opinion issued in late June.
That's always the case with the controversial/important ones.
But... so long as the votes haven't changed, The Court might as well release it now, and get it over with.

Conservatives will cheer.
But I'm going to make this prediction:
The fall of Roe is going to result in "unintended consequences" for The Right.
We'll see that in the upcoming midterm elections, which may reveal how women "in the middle" and "on the right" really feel about Roe in the privacy of the voting booth.

As was Dredd Scott to the first War Between the States, could this be "1857 all over again" in the current "cold" war that's going on between the red and the blue right now...?

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NO! It isn't.  Not after they so recently punted in Texas vs Pennsylvania.

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Warren: Congress ‘Gets the Final Word’ on Roe v. Wade — It Is ‘on the Ballot’

Elizabeth Warren cannot stand the thought of Mississippians deciding on their own laws.
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This takes inflation, Ukraine and Covid off the midterm talking points..it's all about abortion now....you can't tell me they haven't planned this for weeks.


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It ain't gonna lead back to a Justice. They ain't that dumb. There will be a penny ante bagholder to take the rap.

This was totally preplanned and strategized.  Everything will lead right to Barack Obama's gang.

When the nation is in intensive care, this abortion nonsense is nothing but chasing the backyard squirrel. 

They need to wrap FOXNEWS up and get the word out that it's NOT the end of Abortion per se.  It's the end of federal funds for abortion, and it's an individual State that determines if they will be done within their borders.

California and New York and probably Maryland have already stated they will welcome Out-of-State pregnancies and that the State may pick up part of the tab.
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Warning! Exactly 30 years ago in May 1992, the initial decision was 5-4 to overturn Roe v. Wade thru Casey. At the last minute, Justice Kennedy changed his vote to continue Roe for another 30 years.

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This was totally preplanned and strategized.  Everything will lead right to Barack Obama's gang.

When November gets here, they are going to look back and realize that they were way early.  The level of leftist fervor now will have worn itself out in six months time.
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BREAKING: Manchin and Sinema said Tuesday they plan to uphold the filibuster in the wake of the leaked draft decision from the U.S. Supreme Court on overturning Roe v. Wade, denying Democrats the necessary votes to overturn the SCOTUS vote

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This was totally preplanned and strategized.  Everything will lead right to Barack Obama's gang.

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Then it would have been poorly planned and strategized... There is a reason why principals seldom get dragged down for what they do. Trust me. There is a bagholder.

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When the nation is in intensive care, this abortion nonsense is nothing but chasing the backyard squirrel. 


To the contrary - It is probably the very nexus of why the nation is in intensive care.

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They need to wrap FOXNEWS up and get the word out that it's the end of Abortion.  It's the end of federal funds for abortion, and it's an individual State that determines if they will be done within their borders.

Wouldn't that be nice. But only if it is really true.

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California and New York and probably Maryland have already stated they will welcome Out-of-State pregnancies and that the State may pick up part of the tab.

If the rumored trend is true, that would be their business. And Montana will deny abortions. As will Idaho, and Wyoming...

I would take that as a win... partial, but a win nonetheless. The technicality of Life, writ big, requires Constitutional protection. But this would be a win.

However, I don't believe any of it is true. That the entire right leaning contingent in SCOTUS suddenly grew a pair s not likely.

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When November gets here, they are going to look back and realize that they were way early.  The level of leftist fervor now will have worn itself out in six months time.


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This was totally preplanned and strategized.  Everything will lead right to Barack Obama's gang.

When the nation is in intensive care, this abortion nonsense is nothing but chasing the backyard squirrel. 

They need to wrap FOXNEWS up and get the word out that it's the end of Abortion.  It's the end of federal funds for abortion, and it's an individual State that determines if they will be done within their borders.

California and New York and probably Maryland have already stated they will welcome Out-of-State pregnancies and that the State may pick up part of the tab.

Legislation is also being written in Connecticut making it an abortion sanctuary state.

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When November gets here, they are going to look back and realize that they were way early.  The level of leftist fervor now will have worn itself out in six months time.

There will be another issue if/when this one begins to flag. The only necessary thing is to keep everyone either white-hot mad or scared to death.

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Victoria Toensing floats idea on what to do with ‘every single’ SCOTUS clerk to find the leaker


https://www.bizpacreview.com/2022/05/03/victoria-toensing-floats-idea-on-what-to-do-with-every-single-scotus-clerk-to-find-the-leaker-1233585/

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Toensing insisted that it must have been one of the justice’s clerks, due to the court’s track record of having no leaks for so long, while blaming clerks as the newcomers (though the court has had new clerks for all of its existence,) saying that “this court has gone on for so long with nary a leak, and the law clerks are the only newcomers to the institution.”

Did she just say it had to be an Alito Clerk?  If she meant any of the "Justices," the word should have been "Justices'," not "Justice's."
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FTA:

Did she just say it had to be an Alito Clerk?  If she meant any of the "Justices," the word should have been "Justices'," not "Justice's."

... Or would imply the new Justice and staff... All the same, it is all gossip until there is evidence.

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Far-Left ‘Squad’ Members Call for Abolishment of the Filibuster, Expansion of Supreme Court

Far-left members of the “Squad” — Reps. Rashida Tlaib (D-MI), Ilhan Omar (D-MN), Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY), and Ayanna Pressley (D-MA) —  are calling for the abolishment of the filibuster and the expansion of the Supreme Court in reaction to a leak of a draft Supreme Court opinion overruling Roe v. Wade.
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FTA:

Did she just say it had to be an Alito Clerk?  If she meant any of the "Justices," the word should have been "Justices'," not "Justice's."


I didn't read it that way.  I read it as referring to the justices as a group; i.e., that it would have been one of the clerks for one of the justices, not just one of Alito's clerks.

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 Obamas issue strong statement on leaked Roe v. Wade opinion
by Olafimihan Oshin - 05/03/22 4:44 PM ET

Former President Obama and former first lady Michelle Obama issued a strong statement criticizing the draft Supreme Court opinion knocking down the Roe v. Wade decision, saying it would limit U.S. freedoms just like other past actions by the court.

“Today, millions of Americans woke up fearing that their essential freedoms under the Constitution were at risk,” the couple said in the joint statement on Tuesday.

“If the Supreme Court ultimately decides to overturn the landmark case of Roe v. Wade, then it will not only reverse nearly 50 years of precedent — it will relegate the most intensely personal decision someone can make to the whims of politicians and ideologues.”

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May 3, 2022 1:25pm EDT
Leo Terrell on 'Fox & Friends': Democrats are 'ecstatic' after Supreme Court leaker changed the news cycle
Terrell says leak of SCOTUS draft opinion on abortion case shifts focus from 'disastrous' Biden policies
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Gee, where to begin?


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“Today, millions of Americans woke up fearing that their essential freedoms under the Constitution were at risk,” the couple said in the joint statement on Tuesday.

What about my freedom as a Georgian to decide through my State legislature what abortion laws we should have?


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“If the Supreme Court ultimately decides to overturn the landmark case of Roe v. Wade, then it will not only reverse nearly 50 years of precedent —

You mean like Brown reversing 50 years of segregation?


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it will relegate the most intensely personal decision someone can make

The most intensely personal decision someone can make is what led to the pregnancy in the first place.  And no government entity stands in the way of that.



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. . . to the whims of politicians and ideologues.”

'Ideologues' are what gave us Roe to begin with.  The Constitution is what is giving us Dobbs.
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In 1982, Biden tried to overturn Roe v Wade…

https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/in-1982-biden-tried-to-overturn-roe-v-wade/

When Joe Biden Voted to Let States Overturn Roe v. Wade

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/29/us/politics/biden-abortion-rights.html

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It was a new era in Washington in 1981, and abortion rights activists were terrified.

With an anti-abortion president, Ronald Reagan, in power and Republicans controlling the Senate for the first time in decades, social conservatives pushed for a constitutional amendment to allow individual states to overturn Roe v. Wade, the Supreme Court ruling that had made abortion legal nationwide several years earlier.

The amendment — which the National Abortion Rights Action League called “the most devastating attack yet on abortion rights” — cleared a key hurdle in the Senate Judiciary Committee in March 1982. Support came not only from Republicans but from a 39-year-old, second-term Democrat: Joseph R. Biden Jr.

“I’m probably a victim, or a product, however you want to phrase it, of my background,” Mr. Biden, a Roman Catholic, said at the time. The decision, he said, was “the single most difficult vote I’ve cast as a U.S. senator.”

The bill never made it to the full Senate, and when it came back up the following year, Mr. Biden voted against it. His back-and-forth over abortion would become a hallmark of his political career.

As Mr. Biden prepares for the possibility of a third presidential run, women’s rights leaders and activists in both parties are recalling these shifts on abortion, which are likely to draw fresh scrutiny in a Democratic primary race where women are expected to make up a majority of voters.


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Schumer, Pelosi: Draft Roe ruling ‘would go down as an abomination’

Democrats said the exact same thing about Brown v. Board of Education 68 years ago.
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I didn't read it that way.  I read it as referring to the justices as a group; i.e., that it would have been one of the clerks for one of the justices, not just one of Alito's clerks.

As Frank Zappa said, "The crux of the biscuit is the apostrophe. "
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Democrats said the exact same thing about Brown v. Board of Education 68 years ago.
Incidentally, the beginning of the Warren Court's reign of terror that would last 30 years, well after Earl Warren's death. That rogue court issued so many flawed rulings and precedents that they usurped the authority and responsibility of the court to impose its own agenda on the American public, including corrupting the state legislatures. It lasted at least until Plyler v. Doe in '82.
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After Roe is reversed I think the Biden Admin could coordinate flights for women wanting abortions from Red states to Blue states like they do for Illegal Aliens. They can call it Kill Air.
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As Frank Zappa said, "The crux of the biscuit is the apostrophe. "

"It doesn't, and you can't!
I won't, and it don't!
It hasn't, it isn't, it even ain't
And it shouldn't
It couldn't!"
He told me "No no no!"
I told him "Yes yes yes"!
I said: "I do it all the time;
Ain't this boogie a mess!"
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Legislation is also being written in Connecticut making it an abortion sanctuary state.
There is some serious irony there, given Connecticut's stance toward gun control. Maybe they are afraid the fetuses will arm themselves...
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Seventeen Techniques for Truth Suppression

Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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After Roe is reversed I think the Biden Admin could coordinate flights for women wanting abortions from Red states to Blue states like they do for Illegal Aliens. They can call it Kill Air.
or "Dead Air" like CNN+
How God must weep at humans' folly! Stand fast! God knows what he is doing!
Seventeen Techniques for Truth Suppression

Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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The Ukraine War thread can be unlocked.  :laugh:   :bolt:

Ukraine has turned into Libya II.  It's abortion and killing us in the mid-terms with another round of mail-in ballot bullshit.
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After Roe is reversed I think the Biden Admin could coordinate flights for women wanting abortions from Red states to Blue states like they do for Illegal Aliens. They can call it Kill Air.

California is way ahead of you.....
For unvaccinated, we are looking at a winter of severe illness and death — if you’re unvaccinated — for themselves, their families, and the hospitals they’ll soon overwhelm. Sloe Joe Biteme 12/16
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California is way ahead of you.....

California is now considering a bill that allows a woman to kill her baby up to 28 days after giving birth.  Now women in Mississippi who wanted to kill their babies in the womb can simply wait until after they give birth, bring their babies to California, and have their 'abortions' performed there.
If a political party does not have its foundation in the determination to advance a cause that is right and that is moral, then it is not a political party; it is merely a conspiracy to seize power.     -Dwight Eisenhower-

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