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The January 6th Committee Releases an Incredibly Odd Statement After Ted Cruz Asks About Ray Epps
By Bonchie | Jan 11, 2022 5:15 PM ET



https://twitter.com/CBS_Herridge/status/1481006764002721793

So, let me get this straight. The January 6th Committee, which supposedly cares deeply about holding people accountable, not only has no interest in Epps, but they are now operating as his PR firm? Does any of that smell right to you?

In other words, none of this adds up. If the goal here was to produce criminal referrals for those who helped cause January 6th, no one has more evidence stacked against them than Epps. Again, this is a man who was caught on video — multiple times — inciting people to riot. He told people to enter the Capitol Building. He also took part in the unrest itself, allegedly directing people to tear down barricades. I understand Nancy Pelosi, Adam Schiff, Liz Cheney, and the rest want to send Donald Trump to jail, but how does that preclude them from holding Epps accountable?

But they aren’t even attempting to hold him accountable. Instead, they are releasing statements defending the guy, insisting he wasn’t working for the FBI while providing no other context for his actions.

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And why wasn't he charged?

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The Select Committee is aware of unsupported claims that Ray Epps was an FBI informant based on the fact that he was on the FBI Wanted list and then was removed from that list without being charged. 


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Ray Epps is either the first Trump supporter Democrats don't want to arrest--or he works for the FBI.

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If Ray Epps was not a Fed informant but instead was a Trump supporter there is not a lawyer on planet earth that would have allowed him to testify in private to the January 6th committee about what he did on January 6th

This alone proves he’s a Fed

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@SenTomCotton's Full Questioning Of Matthew Olsen, Assistant AG Of The Justice Department’s National Security Division, At Judiciary Hearing Today    Sen. Cotton Asks About Ray Epps & Whether The DOJ/FBI Had Any Officers In "Plain Clothes" At The Capitol On January 6th



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Tucker Carlson questions why Democrats seem to be protective of Ray Epps (Video)


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The January 6th Committee Releases an Incredibly Odd Statement After Ted Cruz Asks About Ray Epps
By Bonchie | Jan 11, 2022 5:15 PM ET



https://twitter.com/CBS_Herridge/status/1481006764002721793

So, let me get this straight. The January 6th Committee, which supposedly cares deeply about holding people accountable, not only has no interest in Epps, but they are now operating as his PR firm? Does any of that smell right to you?

In other words, none of this adds up. If the goal here was to produce criminal referrals for those who helped cause January 6th, no one has more evidence stacked against them than Epps. Again, this is a man who was caught on video — multiple times — inciting people to riot. He told people to enter the Capitol Building. He also took part in the unrest itself, allegedly directing people to tear down barricades. I understand Nancy Pelosi, Adam Schiff, Liz Cheney, and the rest want to send Donald Trump to jail, but how does that preclude them from holding Epps accountable?

But they aren’t even attempting to hold him accountable. Instead, they are releasing statements defending the guy, insisting he wasn’t working for the FBI while providing no other context for his actions.

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Easy answer...  You can't go to jail for publishing a blantantly false TWIT press statement vs. lying about it on the stand, which you can.
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DOJ & FBI are creations of Congress. Congress has the power to dissolve them.

The idea that they can choose which information to give Congress is an illusion perpetrated by them.

AG Garland must answer my question: Did federal assets encourage protestors to enter the Capitol?

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DOJ & FBI are creations of Congress. Congress has the power to dissolve them.

The idea that they can choose which information to give Congress is an illusion perpetrated by them.

AG Garland must answer my question: Did federal assets encourage protestors to enter the Capitol?

11:07 AM · Jan 12, 2022·Twitter for iPhone

Just get it over with, and remame them "The Gestapho"
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Easy answer...  You can't go to jail for publishing a blantantly false TWIT press statement vs. lying about it on the stand, which you can.


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Ray Epps is literally on tape breaking the Riot Act



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4) He didn’t enter the Capitol on Jan 6, and was removed from the most wanted list because apparently he broke no laws.  I’m pretty sure the FBI wouldn’t be dumb enough to put their own agent on a wanted list.  Ray Epps has cooperated with the Jan 6 committee and we thank him

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Jan 6, 2022:  Matt Gaetz and Marjorie Taylor Greene Expose the Truth About January 6 (FULL PRESS CONFERENCE)  -- Video

Congressman Matt Gaetz and Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene held a Republican Response on the anniversary of January 6th.

"I do not believe that there would have been the same level of criminal acuity on Jan. 6th of last year but for the involvement of the federal government."



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Let’s get some truth on the record: @Liz_Cheney has a hell of a lot more backbone than most, & is a principled leader with a fierce intellect. She will continue to be a much needed leader in the conference, with my full support.

We can disagree without tearing eachother apart.


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Let’s get some truth on the record: @Liz_Cheney has a hell of a lot more backbone than most, & is a principled leader with a fierce intellect. She will continue to be a much needed leader in the conference, with my full support.

We can disagree without tearing eachother apart.


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STFU Dan.    Consider yourself primaried.

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@alexbruesewitz joins @TuckerCarlson  Tonight to discuss being targeted by the corrupt January 6 committee:

"I'm not going to be intimidated."(Video)



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.@alexbruesewitz: "This current committee in its structure has no constitutional power. I'm not going to legitimize it... We're going to go on offense now. We're not going to be on defense for too long and we're going to find out the truth."  (Video)


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Reports indicate that before the attack, the House sergeant-at-arms resisted calls from Capitol Police to bring in National Guard for extra security because of "optics."

Security is provided by the sergeant-at-arms of the House, who reports to the House speaker, who was Pelosi.

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Reports indicate that before the attack, the House sergeant-at-arms resisted calls from Capitol Police to bring in National Guard for extra security because of "optics."

Security is provided by the sergeant-at-arms of the House, who reports to the House speaker, who was Pelosi.

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If they dismissed calls for additional security because of "optics" that indicates that they had already sized up the protestors, and decided that it wasn't a threat.  That is totally counter to the false political narrative they've been peddling since Jan. 6, 2021.

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If they dismissed calls for additional security because of "optics" that indicates that they had already sized up the protestors, and decided that it wasn't a threat.  That is totally counter to the false political narrative they've been peddling since Jan. 6, 2021.

Or they sized it up, knew it would be a threat, and decided it would make great anti-Trump optics.
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Or they sized it up, knew it would be a threat, and decided it would make great anti-Trump optics.


True, but they would not have been so blase as to have allowed a really credible threat to go unmolested.  The fact that they resisted calling in the NG indicates that it was their considered view that the protestors did not represent a real threat of danger to Congress.  At most, they were considered just enough of a "threat" as to provide really good anti-Trump optics without actually creating any real threat to Congress.

As such, they had the opportunity to consider whether it was likely to be something that amounted to an insurrection, and they decided that it did not.

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True, but they would not have been so blase as to have allowed a really credible threat to go unmolested.  The fact that they resisted calling in the NG indicates that it was their considered view that the protestors did not represent a real threat of danger to Congress.  At most, they were considered just enough of a "threat" as to provide really good anti-Trump optics without actually creating any real threat to Congress.

As such, they had the opportunity to consider whether it was likely to be something that amounted to an insurrection, and they decided that it did not.
That's playing checkers, and Pelosi runs a different game.

Consider the possibility that the most preeminent thing on the Democrats mind was to somehow legitimize the stolen election. Consider that people were hopping mad over that fraud and theft, and Pelosi and other Dems knew it.

(Angry people do stupid things. It is the reason vengeance is a dish best served cold. )

With that large a crowd in the Capitol, virtually all concerned (at least) over the STEAL of 2020, it shouldn't be much trouble to find a few genuine hot heads who can be incited and inflamed to follow the 'guidance' of people who were experienced at leading and forming a mob, and if there are enough agents in the crowd bent on doing so, they can lead the unsuspecting (but still nonviolent) protesters into the building.

What a glorious opportunity to disrupt any complaints about irregularities in the voting and the legitimacy of the electoral ballots as cast. After the disruption, which can be used politically, in and of itself against Trump, his supporters en banc, and the GOP as well, when the session is resumed, the push will be to get done, not to examine protests over irregularities which have just been discredited by actions seen as violent and threatening, even though the only people apparently severely beaten or killed were protestors.

Why on Earth would Pelosi want the National Guard there to keep barriers and signs up (which were removed after Epps talked with some of the people at the Capitol before most of those trickling in from Trump's speech got there)? Why would she want to preempt or stop any incident? Why did the police (or someone who sure looked like them) move the barricades (second line of 'defense') and open the doors to the crowd, admitting them to the grounds and the building?

The National Guard would have stood at the original lines of demarcation, have kept the signs and fences in place, and there WOULD HAVE BEEN NO INCIDENT.

It is my opinion that that would be exactly counter to the desired results, because without an incident there would be no rush to certify the electoral votes (and Biden's election) at the end of the day, no media feed to discredit Trump's supporters, and in doing so rub some of that off on Trump.
When protesters had been led 'far enough' into the building, Ashli Babbit was shot. That signaled the end of the advance into the structure. Most of those in the crowd who were not agitators in the direct or indirect employ of the Feds (Pelosi and the Democrats and agency personnel in sympathy) were not violent people. They walked in like tourists, stayed inside the velvet ropes, and didn't go on the sort of destructive spree that ANTIFA and BLM and other 'protests' seemed to foster in major cities across the US the previous year.

That some people who acted on behalf of the forming narrative were caught inciting riots and pushing for illegal actions on video and remain uncharged is revealing, as is the apparent lack of interest in the identity of the 'pipe bomber' who set those amateurish looking gadgets around town.

This reeks of orchestration, not prevention.

So in my mind, there is 'No question the Capitol Riot was a premeditated attack.'
My issue is that I believe the attribution is misplaced.
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The events of 6 January were a HUGE gift to the Left. If they were not part of Leftist plan, they should have been. The boneheads who invaded Congress ought to demand that George Soros pay them five thousand dollars apiece, if not more.

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We need  a national organization which can provide people to steward future demonstrations - both to protect our people from AntiFa violence and to deal with agents provocateurs or hotheads who want to turn a demonstration into a riot.

The French know about these things, and their political parties have a group called the 'service d'ordre' to marshall their marches.

We need to do the same.  Turbulent times are approaching, and we need to go to a military footing: organized, trained, equipped, with a command structure in charge of a large, disciplined group of men who can carry out the necessary actions when we gather in public.
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That's playing checkers, and Pelosi runs a different game.

Consider the possibility that the most preeminent thing on the Democrats mind was to somehow legitimize the stolen election. Consider that people were hopping mad over that fraud and theft, and Pelosi and other Dems knew it.

(Angry people do stupid things. It is the reason vengeance is a dish best served cold. )

With that large a crowd in the Capitol, virtually all concerned (at least) over the STEAL of 2020, it shouldn't be much trouble to find a few genuine hot heads who can be incited and inflamed to follow the 'guidance' of people who were experienced at leading and forming a mob, and if there are enough agents in the crowd bent on doing so, they can lead the unsuspecting (but still nonviolent) protesters into the building.

What a glorious opportunity to disrupt any complaints about irregularities in the voting and the legitimacy of the electoral ballots as cast. After the disruption, which can be used politically, in and of itself against Trump, his supporters en banc, and the GOP as well, when the session is resumed, the push will be to get done, not to examine protests over irregularities which have just been discredited by actions seen as violent and threatening, even though the only people apparently severely beaten or killed were protestors.

Why on Earth would Pelosi want the National Guard there to keep barriers and signs up (which were removed after Epps talked with some of the people at the Capitol before most of those trickling in from Trump's speech got there)? Why would she want to preempt or stop any incident? Why did the police (or someone who sure looked like them) move the barricades (second line of 'defense') and open the doors to the crowd, admitting them to the grounds and the building?

The National Guard would have stood at the original lines of demarcation, have kept the signs and fences in place, and there WOULD HAVE BEEN NO INCIDENT.

It is my opinion that that would be exactly counter to the desired results, because without an incident there would be no rush to certify the electoral votes (and Biden's election) at the end of the day, no media feed to discredit Trump's supporters, and in doing so rub some of that off on Trump.
When protesters had been led 'far enough' into the building, Ashli Babbit was shot. That signaled the end of the advance into the structure. Most of those in the crowd who were not agitators in the direct or indirect employ of the Feds (Pelosi and the Democrats and agency personnel in sympathy) were not violent people. They walked in like tourists, stayed inside the velvet ropes, and didn't go on the sort of destructive spree that ANTIFA and BLM and other 'protests' seemed to foster in major cities across the US the previous year.

That some people who acted on behalf of the forming narrative were caught inciting riots and pushing for illegal actions on video and remain uncharged is revealing, as is the apparent lack of interest in the identity of the 'pipe bomber' who set those amateurish looking gadgets around town.

This reeks of orchestration, not prevention.

So in my mind, there is 'No question the Capitol Riot was a premeditated attack.'
My issue is that I believe the attribution is misplaced.
 

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JUST IN - Ray Epps to testify to the January 6 "select committee" on Friday. He claims no ties to the FBI, Politico reports.

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Ray Epps "met informally" with the January 6 panel in November and now wants to testify.

https://t.co/TyGmRhIMzm

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Recap of today's #January6 news:

> Ray Epps did not sit for a formal interview by J6 committee;

> Stewart Rhodes' detention hearing has been conveniently cancelled, no detention motion filed by DOJ, no hearing reset;

> Pence wasn't in the Capitol the whole time as DOJ has said


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The Select Committee has issued subpoenas to Nicholas J. Fuentes and Patrick Casey.

The committee is demanding records and testimony from the two witnesses who promoted unsupported claims about the 2020 election and were present on the Capitol grounds on January 6th.


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The Select Committee has issued subpoenas to Nicholas J. Fuentes and Patrick Casey.

The committee is demanding records and testimony from the two witnesses who promoted unsupported claims about the 2020 election and were present on the Capitol grounds on January 6th.



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Using state power to persecute people for their political beliefs. Yet Republicans still won't purge Liz Cheney from their ranks. Ridiculous

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Using state power to persecute people for their political beliefs. Yet Republicans still won't purge Liz Cheney from their ranks. Ridiculous

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I posted an article in another thread; the GOP is trying to go after Cheney.  At this point, I don't think it's going to make a whole lot of difference.  She's on the J6 committee and that's not going to change anything.

https://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,459414.msg2568163.html#msg2568163


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JUST IN - U.S. Supreme Court denies Trump's request to block the release of White House records from Jan. 6 "select committee" by an 8-1 vote.

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JUST IN - U.S. Supreme Court denies Trump's request to block the release of White House records from Jan. 6 "select committee" by an 8-1 vote.

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A) 1/6 Cmte: The Supreme Court’s action tonight is a victory for the rule of law and American democracy. The Select Committee has already begun to receive records that the former President had hoped to keep hidden

B) 1/6 Cmte: Our work goes forward to uncover all the facts about the violence of January 6th and its causes. We will not be deterred in our effort to get answers for the American people, make legislative recommendations to strengthen our democracy


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.@julie_kelly2's Full Opening Remarks About The Horrible Treatment Of January 6th Protestors At The House Judiciary Committee Hearing

"It appears however that the DC Jail for January 6th protestors is more of a political prison for Americans who protested Joe Biden's election."  (Video)



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Tucker Carlson On @Liz_Cheney Being Part Of The Authoritarian  @January6thCmte  (Video)



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WATCH: Newt Gingrich says the J6 Committee may face criminal prosecution for abusing its power by targeting innocent Americans.


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Not only am I being targeted by the J6 committee clowns for financially standing w/ VICTIMS who can’t afford their legal bills but also for working with & befriending pro-Trump members of Congress. Lol   Please see the dramatic reading of my response letter to the idiots below:

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If Ray Epps is not guilty, no one is.

Shut down the J6 committee!

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President Trump: “If I run & if I win, we will treat those people from January 6th fairly. We will treat them fairly. And if it requires pardons, we will give them pardons. Because they are being treated so unfairly.” #TrumpRallyTX  (Video)


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58% say cheating was likely in the 2020 elections
69% against Zuckerbucks type private election spending
76% say Photo ID is reasonable to prevent cheating
90% say it is important to prevent cheating

ALL of these results are exclusively from INDEPENDENTS

https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics/december_2021/voters_against_zuckerbucks_influencing_elections

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58% say cheating was likely in the 2020 elections
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ALL of these results are exclusively from INDEPENDENTS

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I really feel the tide turning.  I said on another thread that I thought in about 5 years that "wokeness" would die in a sea of embarassment and ridicule. Plus we are seeing real life examples of how left wing ideology can destroy a society.
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Re: Jan. 6 committee chair: 'No question' Capitol riot was a premeditated attack
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Re: Jan. 6 committee chair: 'No question' Capitol riot was a premeditated attack
« Reply #346 on: February 02, 2022, 11:18:59 pm »
I really feel the tide turning.  I said on another thread that I thought in about 5 years that "wokeness" would die in a sea of embarassment and ridicule. Plus we are seeing real life examples of how left wing ideology can destroy a society.

I SURE HOPE THE TIDE IS TURNING! BEEN A LONG ENOUGH WAIT, ALREADY!

WHAT DO YOU EXPECT TO HAPPEN NEXT ON THE NATIONAL OR INTERNATIONAL STAGE?


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Re: Jan. 6 committee chair: 'No question' Capitol riot was a premeditated attack
« Reply #347 on: February 03, 2022, 12:41:40 am »
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I would love to have a real January 6th Commission where Republicans can subpoena people.

Pelosi denied Republicans this power and even kicked off anyone not completely in their pocket.

Funny how that’s not widely reported. Most don’t know this!

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Re: Jan. 6 committee chair: 'No question' Capitol riot was a premeditated attack
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Re: Jan. 6 committee chair: 'No question' Capitol riot was a premeditated attack
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