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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #251 on: October 29, 2021, 04:18:42 pm »
I don't recall Hannah Gutierrez-Reed pointing a gun at anyone and pulling the trigger.
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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #252 on: October 29, 2021, 04:34:11 pm »
If Alec Baldwin was a card-carrying member of the NRA, this wouldn't have happened.  He would have had better knowledge of gun safety.
Baldwin is a veteran of many high budget movies with professional prop and safety operators who must have educated if not drilled gun safety into the megalomaniacs head, Baldwin cannot hide behind ignorance of gun safety protocols.

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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #253 on: October 29, 2021, 05:22:59 pm »
It matters not what Baldwin thought.  What matters is what he is must do. 

As the producer, it is his legal obligation to make sure all protocols for guns on the set are followed:  a capable armorer, the security of each weapon, no live ammunition.  As the actor handling the gun it is his responsibility to physically check the gun for bullets of any kind and not to point the gun, under any circumstance, at a human being he did not intend to kill.

A woman, wife, mother is dead due to the producer-actor's  negligence, not because he played with toy guns when he was eight years old.




Cyber is correct.  It was a peacemaker, which required it to be COCKED...before pulling the trigger.  And one never puts their finger on the trigger....unless to kill.   There is some thing going around about it being OCTOBER...and satanic crap going on.  They said a lot of Hollyweird is into satanism. Their parties with cakes made into human beings and bloody.   Trying to find the link.  Who knows?   


https://www.henrymakow.com/2021/10/was- ... 1627224119

I see. 404'ed.  I saved some of the words, if you want them.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nLEfddgZ2Y&t=12s
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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #254 on: October 29, 2021, 07:14:10 pm »
If theya re using a period accurate firearm, it was single action: meaning you have to cock the hammer and then pull the trigger to fire. To check, load, and clear it requires pulling the hammer to half cock, opening the loading gate and rotating the cylinder to determine if there are any rounds. This Is neither rocket surgery, or brain science.

ESPECIALLY since it's a wheel gun... I can see the uninitiated forgetting to clear the chamber on something clip fed... That is the major malfunction I have had, having converted to a 1911 in recent years. I STILL don't trust myself to carry with a chambered round. But a revolver... How hard can it be to spin the wheel and be certain it is empty?

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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #255 on: October 29, 2021, 07:19:41 pm »
ESPECIALLY since it's a wheel gun... I can see the uninitiated forgetting to clear the chamber on something clip fed... That is the major malfunction I have had, having converted to a 1911 in recent years. I STILL don't trust myself to carry with a chambered round. But a revolver... How hard can it be to spin the wheel and be certain it is empty?

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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #256 on: October 29, 2021, 07:53:27 pm »
ESPECIALLY since it's a wheel gun... I can see the uninitiated forgetting to clear the chamber on something clip fed... That is the major malfunction I have had, having converted to a 1911 in recent years. I STILL don't trust myself to carry with a chambered round. But a revolver... How hard can it be to spin the wheel and be certain it is empty?
If only Baldwin was looking down the barrel to check whether it was loaded and the gun had a 'misfire'.

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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #257 on: October 29, 2021, 09:45:55 pm »
If only Baldwin was looking down the barrel to check whether it was loaded and the gun had a 'misfire'.

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Actually that's about the second thing you learn not to do...  :beer:

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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #258 on: October 31, 2021, 12:35:11 am »
After all I read on this after all this time, it seems clear that Baldwin was goofing around with the gun and threatening to 'kill' people believing the gun was blank. He was goofing around and shot at her to 'scare' her as a joke. And that is when she was killed. This has happened before.

I have seen this before in my life. Some idiot will remove the magazine without clearing the weapon. Then he shoots a friend or wife or stranger as a joke not realizing a round was chambered. That is actually more common than you may think.

The point is that blanks and "unloaded" weapons kill all the time, almost always because of fools or drunks trying to 'joke' with it and to 'scare' someone else.

Hey Bozo! Prepare to die! *BANG* and the person dies for real. Never point a weapon at anybody, unless you intend to harm that person. Basic, Basic, first rule of guns, any gun.
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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #259 on: October 31, 2021, 08:48:45 am »
Devastated Alec reveals he took Halyna Hutchins to dinner before shooting her dead, demands new rules for guns on sets and snaps at Hilaria when she tries to talk in impromptu press conference

    *Alec Baldwin said Halyna Hutchins, 42, 'was his friend' when he stopped to talk to photographers
    *He said he would 'not to talk about the investigation,' but is 'eagerly awaiting for the sheriff's department' to release their findings
    *During the tense interaction with reporters, Alec grew annoyed with his wife, Hilaria, who interjected several times
    *At one point, Hilaria scolded a reporter who momentarily forgot Halyna Hutchins' name while asking question
    *'If you’re spending this much time waiting for us, you should know her name,’ Hilaria tells the reporter
    *Alec then described his meeting with Hutchins' widower, Matthew, saying he was left 'mortified' by tragedy
    *Before he could finish his sentence, Hilaria interjects. ‘You guys, you guys, you know what? No details.’
    *Alec once again appears agitated at his wife, telling her: ‘Do me a favor? I’m going to answer the question.’
    *Baldwin said there needs to be 'new measures' on film sets for 'when something does go wrong'
    *Baldwin said on Saturday he did not think production on the movie Rust would start back up

By Alyssa Guzman For Dailymail.Com and Ariel Zilber For Dailymail.com
Published: 16:02 EDT, 30 October 2021 | Updated: 03:42 EDT, 31 October 2021   ... Story at Daily Mail


He looks like a drunk. Hey, Alec, we don't need "new measures," we just need dimbulb actors like you to comply with established procedure.
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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #260 on: October 31, 2021, 01:40:50 pm »
You don’t become cooler with age but you do care progressively less about being cool, which is the only true way to actually be cool.

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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #262 on: October 31, 2021, 01:49:04 pm »
Meet the real Mrs. Baldwin .....


https://mobile.twitter.com/RaheemKassam/status/1454561215347310602

Would that make her:  Mrs. Hilaria-ous Baldwin?  As in "laughable"?

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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #267 on: October 31, 2021, 02:44:27 pm »
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Actor Alec Baldwin spoke publicly for the first time Saturday about the death of cinematographer Halyna Hutchins, who was killed by a bullet fired from a prop gun fired by Baldwin on the set of the movie "Rust."

Tracked down by paparazzi on the side of a road in Vermont alongside his wife Hilaria, Baldwin said he couldn't comment on the investigation into the death, which occurred on Oct. 21 south of Santa Fe, New Mexico.

"I've been ordered by the sheriff's department in Santa Fe (not to comment on the case).... It's an active investigation in terms of a woman died, she was my friend," Baldwin said. "...We were a very, very well-oiled crew shooting a film together, and then this horrible event happened."

Baldwin, appearing annoyed at times when his wife interrupted to chastise reporters, confirmed that he had met with Hutchins' husband Matthew and the couple's 9-year-old son, adding that the husband was "overwhelmed with grief."

"There are incidental accidents on film sets from time to time, but nothing like this," he continued "This is a one in a trillion episode. It's a one in a trillion event.... We're eagerly awaiting for the sheriff's department to tell us what their investigation has yielded."

https://www.nbclosangeles.com/entertainment/entertainment-news/alec-baldwin-calls-on-set-shooting-death-one-in-a-trillion-episode/2739840/

"A very, very well-oiled crew".  I guess this explains the crew walking out and the complaints about safety on the set.

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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #270 on: October 31, 2021, 02:48:34 pm »
Hillary (Hilaria) would do herself more good by filing for divorce and getting Baldwin's assets/money while they're still his.

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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #271 on: October 31, 2021, 02:53:35 pm »
Hillary (Hilaria) would do herself more good by filing for divorce and getting Baldwin's assets/money while they're still his.

It's probably too late for that.

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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #273 on: October 31, 2021, 03:24:51 pm »
After all I read on this after all this time, it seems clear that Baldwin was goofing around with the gun and threatening to 'kill' people believing the gun was blank. He was goofing around and shot at her to 'scare' her as a joke. And that is when she was killed. This has happened before.

I have seen this before in my life. Some idiot will remove the magazine without clearing the weapon. Then he shoots a friend or wife or stranger as a joke not realizing a round was chambered. That is actually more common than you may think.

The point is that blanks and "unloaded" weapons kill all the time, almost always because of fools or drunks trying to 'joke' with it and to 'scare' someone else.

Hey Bozo! Prepare to die! *BANG* and the person dies for real. Never point a weapon at anybody, unless you intend to harm that person. Basic, Basic, first rule of guns, any gun.


I agree.  All domestic violent people use a gun, to try and intimidate their partner.  It is in the book for Battered Women.
It was done to me.  And it is not a joke nor fun.  Nor is jumping out from behind a bush to scare a woman.....not fun. 
How could it be? 

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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #274 on: October 31, 2021, 04:05:31 pm »
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