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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #225 on: October 28, 2021, 12:42:34 am »
So a prop gun that fires real bullets?  That was real smart...

I always thought that "prop" meant something is a fake, but recently I watched a video that explained that "prop" is short for "property", as in , "property of the production". It doesn't necessarily mean something is fake, it just means that it belongs to the production. So a "prop gun" might be fake or might be real, in either case it is the property of the production.
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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #226 on: October 28, 2021, 01:06:46 am »
When you see someone in Hollywood holding a SHOTGUN and calling it a RIFLE and cocking it three or four times (with some smartass comments) with no casing ejecting. These guys really don't know. They have no clue how a gun actually works?

Liberals really and truly do not know what a gun is, or what it does. THEY REALLY DON'T KNOW!
I know this is crazy (to me anyway) these guys are retarded in every meaning of the word.
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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #227 on: October 28, 2021, 03:46:49 am »
When you see someone in Hollywood holding a SHOTGUN and calling it a RIFLE and cocking it three or four times (with some smartass comments) with no casing ejecting. These guys really don't know. They have no clue how a gun actually works?

Liberals really and truly do not know what a gun is, or what it does. THEY REALLY DON'T KNOW!
I know this is crazy (to me anyway) these guys are retarded in every meaning of the word.
When they wave them around in a movie with the endless Hollywood "clip", never having to reload until some tender moment even though they have fired hundreds of rounds, they are fundamentally clueless as to the limitations and capabilities of the firearms they pretend to handle. It is sad that someone doing their job got killed by this ignorance, by the careless handling of a real weapon, and the failure to ensure it had no live ammunition in it.

These people live in a world of make believe, and it just got real.

The .45 long colt round is roughly equivalent to the .357 Magnum in power, so it is a small wonder that the cinematographer was wounded through and through and the person behind her hit as well. But sad that it happened that way. I wonder about their competence at rendering first aid, but a clipped artery could be very bad news there even with competent personnel. It isn't like on teevee where they get shot in the shoulder and are kung fu fighting in 5 minutes.
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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #228 on: October 28, 2021, 04:44:03 am »
The classics scene some clobber has rescued some maid from some terrible fate?
While running, they suddenly stop, and start conversing about life and the universe...
then they make out and get killed by some lunatic.

Thank You Hollywood, how would we live without you?
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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #231 on: October 28, 2021, 09:29:13 am »
The gun Was Safe before the shooting. As The  Gun was Not Being Pointed at a Person. The Trigger was Not Being Pulled.

Alec Caused the Gun to Be Verrrry Unsafe and Deadly.

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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #232 on: October 28, 2021, 09:34:02 am »
I'm pro-2A as they come, but idiots like Baldwin shouldn't be within 20 feet of a real gun.

It's like giving my truck keys to my 8 year old grandson for a ride on the interstate.
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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #233 on: October 28, 2021, 09:39:16 am »
I'm pro-2A as they come, but idiots like Baldwin shouldn't be within 20 feet of a real gun.

It's like giving my truck keys to my 8 year old grandson for a ride on the interstate.

I'd trust your 8 y.o. g-son with a tractor-trailer in Chinatown before I'd trust a lib/prog like Baldwin with a gun!

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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #234 on: October 28, 2021, 09:39:58 am »
Some of the comments to Baldwin’s tweet show how hopelessly ignorant some people are.

@catfish1957 - perfect analogy re: your grandson and truck. Many of those comments would have you do away with your truck.
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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #235 on: October 28, 2021, 11:11:49 am »
The classics scene some clobber has rescued some maid from some terrible fate?
While running, they suddenly stop, and start conversing about life and the universe...
then they make out and get killed by some lunatic.

Thank You Hollywood, how would we live without you?
I love the way the hero and heroine are are desperately in a rush to do or get away from some thing, and yet have time to stop and suck face or have those 'deep' moments of existential conversation with their pursuers yapping at their heels.
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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #236 on: October 28, 2021, 03:43:51 pm »
Dana Loesch Gets Ahead of the Liberal Media's Predicable Move to Protect Alec Baldwin Post-Accidental Shooting
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I wrote about how the armorer on the set of the film Rust was nervous and doubted her abilities. That doesn’t mean she was at fault and I mentioned to keep an eye out because the Left will weaponize these remarks to protect Alec Baldwin, who accidentally shot and killed the film’s cinematographer, Halyna Hutchins, last week. No matter what was said, Baldwin pulled the trigger. He took another director’s word that it was safe. He didn’t check for himself—and a woman is now dead. Joel Souza, the director, was also injured in the incident.  Yet, Dana Loesch was first to fire the warning flare about the liberal media’s predictable pivot. The New York Post reported on a story about how this armorer angered Nicolas Cage so much in a past production that he walked off the set. So, is she totally at fault? No. This was a systemic failure.

“There is enough blame to go around, but it’s disgusting to see a blatant PR effort aimed at placing the entirety of the blame on the younger women hired by the lead producer and talent running the set. Inexcusable and people are giving Baldwin a pass for it,” wrote Loesch.

“I don’t care how “rookie” someone was — that only makes Baldwin look even more irresponsible as part of his job was to know what was happening on his set. Period,” she added.  ... Townhall
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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #237 on: October 28, 2021, 03:47:24 pm »
Alec Baldwin retweets story that highlights person to blame for fatal set shooting

The only person deserving blame here is Alec Baldwin.  N one else pulled that trigger.
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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #238 on: October 28, 2021, 04:53:18 pm »
The only person deserving blame here is Alec Baldwin.  N one else pulled that trigger.

Exactly. The gun went off because HE pulled the trigger. Just a few moments of pre-check and he would have seen that it was loaded.
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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #239 on: October 28, 2021, 07:07:12 pm »
I think they are going to pin this on that gal who was the Armorer.  She's young, poor and powerless.   She's a ditz, but she's also a kid.
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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #240 on: October 28, 2021, 07:26:37 pm »
I think they are going to pin this on that gal who was the Armorer.  She's young, poor and powerless.   She's a ditz, but she's also a kid.

Perhaps a diversity hire by an arrogant and inept producer.
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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #241 on: October 28, 2021, 08:00:27 pm »
Everyone of them that handled the gun is culpable.  If bar owners and gun manufacturers are...   :shrug:

But my sixth sense screams a sinister act by a pissed-off union member who got sick and tired of the 'Jeffrey Epstein' tactics Baldwin was using to hand out jobs to somebody whose only qualification is what she's willing to do with her body.

That said, this 'murder' is on video as sure as the sun is rising somewhere right now.

The "live round" didn't get into that chamber by itself.
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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #242 on: October 28, 2021, 08:39:20 pm »
Everyone of them that handled the gun is culpable.  If bar owners and gun manufacturers are...   :shrug:

But my sixth sense screams a sinister act by a pissed-off union member who got sick and tired of the 'Jeffrey Epstein' tactics Baldwin was using to hand out jobs to somebody whose only qualification is what she's willing to do with her body.

That said, this 'murder' is on video as sure as the sun is rising somewhere right now.

The "live round" didn't get into that chamber by itself.

Apparently they were using the same gun for target practice so that makes it much more likely it was loaded with live rounds.

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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #243 on: October 29, 2021, 06:31:11 am »
Baldwin also retweeted this:


https://mobile.twitter.com/nytimes/status/1453504319400157191



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I'm tired of the term "misfire".  You can't misfire an M1893 Colt .45 Revolver.  It is a single-action pistol that requires the hammer to be engaged and the trigger pulled.  You can share as many articles as you want, but ultimately the person holding the firearm is responsible.

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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #244 on: October 29, 2021, 02:40:44 pm »


source: https: //twitter.com/DarnelSugarfoo/status/1451508819599650816 - trying to confirm whether he actually said this.
Certainly contrary to the original story that he was "practicing" his cross draw. Either way he was negligent and needs to serve time.
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« Reply #245 on: October 29, 2021, 02:44:01 pm »
'Course being handed a hot gun wouldn't explain why he pointed it at someone and pulled the trigger.
First rule of gun handling: Treat every gun as if it is loaded, until you clear it. Second rule: Keep your booger picker off the bang switch until you prove it is clear.
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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #246 on: October 29, 2021, 03:01:54 pm »

If Alec Baldwin was a card-carrying member of the NRA, this wouldn't have happened.  He would have had better knowledge of gun safety.
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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #247 on: October 29, 2021, 03:04:52 pm »

https://mobile.twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1451652014367256587


Protocol (rules) calls for both the prop master and the actor to physically check the chamber of the gun  --- the actor, whoever it is, is not supposed to take the word of the prop master.  Both of them are to confirm the gun's safe to use.



https://mobile.twitter.com/RobertJohnDavi/status/1451499551584669698
If theya re using a period accurate firearm, it was single action: meaning you have to cock the hammer and then pull the trigger to fire. To check, load, and clear it requires pulling the hammer to half cock, opening the loading gate and rotating the cylinder to determine if there are any rounds. This Is neither rocket surgery, or brain science.   
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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #248 on: October 29, 2021, 03:38:56 pm »
If theya re using a period accurate firearm, it was single action: meaning you have to cock the hammer and then pull the trigger to fire. To check, load, and clear it requires pulling the hammer to half cock, opening the loading gate and rotating the cylinder to determine if there are any rounds. This Is neither rocket surgery, or brain science.

Well, it was obviously to difficult for baldwin...

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Re: Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
« Reply #249 on: October 29, 2021, 03:49:06 pm »
Certainly contrary to the original story that he was "practicing" his cross draw. Either way he was negligent and needs to serve time.
Yeah....I'm starting to lean this way as well.