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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3100 on: July 21, 2020, 09:53:03 pm »
I was buying something at a store in western Pa. today and the clerk asked me to move my mask over my nose. I told him it had been over my nose but it slipped down. (That's the mask I intentionally made loose to give me a fighting chance at breathing). I should have told him to stuff it where the sun don't shine, but I just wanted to get out of there and be done with it.  9999hair out0000

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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3101 on: July 21, 2020, 11:00:54 pm »
I was buying something at a store in western Pa. today and the clerk asked me to move my mask over my nose. I told him it had been over my nose but it slipped down. (That's the mask I intentionally made loose to give me a fighting chance at breathing). I should have told him to stuff it where the sun don't shine, but I just wanted to get out of there and be done with it.  9999hair out0000
That's one thing about the mask thing that does irritate me.

The point of the face covering is to prevent the projection of droplets to the person in front of you, so that they don't get inhaled. Droplets from the nose are projected downward, not outward. So unless you're really tall and standing right over a short person, there's not much need to cover the nose, especially if it's causing breathing difficulties (and yes, it can do that—try singing in one! I've done it for church).
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3104 on: July 21, 2020, 11:13:08 pm »
That's one thing about the mask thing that does irritate me.

The point of the face covering is to prevent the projection of droplets to the person in front of you, so that they don't get inhaled. Droplets from the nose are projected downward, not outward. So unless you're really tall and standing right over a short person, there's not much need to cover the nose, especially if it's causing breathing difficulties (and yes, it can do that—try singing in one! I've done it for church).
Not to mention the clerk was wearing a mask and standing behind a plexiglass barrier. Not sure what he thought I could do to him. So far, I've managed to slip off the mask for singing in church, but our pastor (a former surgeon) gives us the stinkeye if we're not wearing them.

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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3105 on: July 22, 2020, 12:07:24 am »
Top COVID-19 vaccine makers say safe, effective and low-cost candidates possible by early 2021

Top vaccine makers predict a vaccine or vaccines may be available as early as the beginning of 2021 and at least two pledged doses will be free or low-cost for all Americans.

Speaking before a House subcommittee Tuesday, executives from AstraZeneca, Johnson & Johnson, Merck, Moderna and Pfizer said their goal is to have effective vaccines available as soon as possible while following all safety and regulatory guidelines.

None of the pharmaceutical executives would commit to having a vaccine ready for the general public before early 2021, despite repeated questioning by House members.

The United States has so far invested nearly $2.3 billion in the effort to find a vaccine to stop SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, which has killed more than 140,000 Americans.

Safety emerged as a key concern among lawmakers, with several pressing executives on whether the unprecedented speed of vaccine development or potentially lax government regulations would put the public at risk. All the panelists said safety would not be compromised............

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2020/07/21/top-covid-vaccine-makers-safe-cheap-doses-may-ready-early-2021/5478232002/
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3106 on: July 22, 2020, 12:31:56 am »
Don't be silly, @Bigun!  They need the stiffs.

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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3107 on: July 22, 2020, 12:34:00 am »
Top COVID-19 vaccine makers say safe, effective and low-cost candidates possible by early 2021

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Unless,of course,Trump is re-elected. If that happens,the earliest a vaccine will be available is in 2025.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3108 on: July 22, 2020, 12:47:20 am »
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Unless,of course,Trump is re-elected. If that happens,the earliest a vaccine will be available is in 2025.

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There will be no effective or long lasting vaccine. Corona is the usual culprit for causing the common cold. It is a fast-morphing virus and because of that, there will be no cure.

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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3109 on: July 22, 2020, 12:54:26 am »
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There will be no effective or long lasting vaccine. Corona is the usual culprit for causing the common cold. It is a fast-morphing virus and because of that, there will be no cure.

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This is the first time I  have heard that,but I have no reason to disbelieve you.
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« Reply #3110 on: July 22, 2020, 01:09:10 am »
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This is the first time I  have heard that,but I have no reason to disbelieve you.

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Corona is very, very common. I have 'vaccinated' cattle for decades (corona is the scours in cowboy lingo)... Dogs are common carriers...

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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3111 on: July 22, 2020, 01:23:08 am »
Hydroxychloroquine could save up to 100,000 lives if used for COVID-19: Yale epidemiology professor
Oh, NOW they say this!

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It likely COULD have saved up to 100,000 lives, already, if the politicians masquerading as scientists hadn't set out on such a jihad to prove it didn't work because Trump mentioned it.

But those a$$hole$ are pimping panic, not a cure.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3112 on: July 22, 2020, 01:28:31 am »
Oh, NOW they say this!

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It likely COULD have saved up to 100,000 lives, already, if the politicians masquerading as scientists hadn't set out on such a jihad to prove it didn't work because Trump mentioned it.

But those a$$hole$ are pimping panic, not a cure.

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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3113 on: July 22, 2020, 04:04:24 am »
07-22-2020 | 0:00 GMT

REGIONRecov:Death     Cases:Recov
Global (excluding China & US)  15.226 ↑   1.537 ↓
United States   13.015 ↑    2.135 ↓

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/


US Recoveries-to-deaths ratio climbs above 13.

Largest case rises occurred in CA, TX, FL, AZ, & GA.

Today's new US Deaths compared to new deaths seven days ago:  +223.

14-day Recovery Deficit - 1,065,548.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3114 on: July 22, 2020, 03:34:43 pm »
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This is a lie. They’re combining deaths from previous days. Yet, Drudge highlights it and the rest of the leftwing media push it.

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U.S. reports over 1,000 daily coronavirus deaths for first time since May
https://www.axios.com/coronavirus-deaths-thousand-may-a10e174a-9cdc-4148-93e1-dfe55c1f03e4.html


https://twitter.com/marklevinshow/status/1285921925521448960

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« Reply #3115 on: July 22, 2020, 03:38:03 pm »
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The media continue to lie about actual daily deaths and a surge. This explains what they’re doing

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The Big Surge In Coronavirus Deaths Is A Media-Fed Myth
https://issuesinsights.com/2020/07/22/the-big-surge-in-coronavirus-deaths-is-a-media-fed-myth/


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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3116 on: July 22, 2020, 03:47:47 pm »
How are we to believe any of the new numbers, when we already know that testing sites are reporting 100% positives, people who never were tested are getting "you're positive!" letters in the mail,  and everything from terminal cancer deaths to motorcycle crash victims are being called Covid-19 fatalities?

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« Reply #3117 on: July 22, 2020, 04:37:22 pm »
How are we to believe any of the new numbers, when we already know that testing sites are reporting 100% positives, people who never were tested are getting "you're positive!" letters in the mail,  and everything from terminal cancer deaths to motorcycle crash victims are being called Covid-19 fatalities?

For better or for worse, we simply cannot believe the numbers.

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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3118 on: July 22, 2020, 04:43:51 pm »
How are we to believe any of the new numbers, when we already know that testing sites are reporting 100% positives, people who never were tested are getting "you're positive!" letters in the mail,  and everything from terminal cancer deaths to motorcycle crash victims are being called Covid-19 fatalities?
Well, in lieu of actual data which confirm the Party Line, uncertainty will fuel fear almost equally well.

It isn't about the Virus, it is about FEAR and CONTROL.
Without that, there is no way Americans will opt for mail-in voting.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3119 on: July 22, 2020, 05:57:47 pm »
Well, in lieu of actual data which confirm the Party Line, uncertainty will fuel fear almost equally well.

It isn't about the Virus, it is about FEAR and CONTROL.
Without that, there is no way Americans will opt for mail-in voting.

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"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3121 on: July 22, 2020, 08:16:43 pm »
I see that graphic is from a group called Ohio Liberation. Speaking of Ohio, Gov. DeWine today has mandated masks just about everywhere.  *****rollingeyes*****

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« Reply #3122 on: July 22, 2020, 08:35:55 pm »
The masktapo. I wonder if they'll check for Jews in the attic, while they're at it.
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PITTSBURGH (KDKA) – Allegheny County is launching a team that will visit businesses and use checklists to see if they’re following coronavirus orders. The name of the business and a copy of the checklist will then be posted to the county’s website for the public to see.

Allegheny County Executive Rich Fitzgerald says there is confusion about what businesses should and shouldn’t do, and the county has heard that it should provide information on which businesses are and aren’t following the rules.

In response, the county is launching a “COVID Field Response Team” Thursday morning. ...
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« Reply #3123 on: July 22, 2020, 08:37:51 pm »
"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

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« Reply #3124 on: July 22, 2020, 08:51:24 pm »
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PITTSBURGH (KDKA) – Allegheny County is launching a team that will visit businesses and use checklists to see if they’re following coronavirus orders. The name of the business and a copy of the checklist will then be posted to the county’s website for the public to see.

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