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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #2950 on: July 16, 2020, 01:02:07 am »
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #2951 on: July 16, 2020, 01:04:35 am »
Quote from: jmyrlefuller on July 16, 2020, 01:02:07 am
Experts warn getting COVID testing results too late could make testing useless
https://www.wivb.com/news/local-news/buffalo/experts-warn-getting-covid-testing-results-too-late-could-make-testing-useless/

So, do these hundreds of "unnamed experts" ever talk to one another?
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #2952 on: July 16, 2020, 01:45:47 am »
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #2953 on: July 16, 2020, 01:51:20 am »
Quote from: Smokin Joe on July 16, 2020, 12:43:06 am
Fred, you just won the lottery!

Imagine how much the book rights would be worth...

I don't know about winning the lottery but at least I qualify for Medicaid.

I don't know what a book is. Something about a fire. And rights were like so far back in time no one knows what they are anymore.  :shrug:
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #2954 on: July 16, 2020, 02:20:44 am »
Quote from: jmyrlefuller on July 16, 2020, 01:02:07 am
Experts warn getting COVID testing results too late could make testing useless
https://www.wivb.com/news/local-news/buffalo/experts-warn-getting-covid-testing-results-too-late-could-make-testing-useless/

@jmyrlefuller

If I didn't know better and If I were the suspicious type,I MIGHT begin to suspect there was money being made giving these tests/

Gee,I wonder if anyone we know bought stock several months ago in any of the companies that provide the tests and/or gives them?
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #2955 on: July 16, 2020, 02:58:47 am »
About one month ago, I was offered an unsolicited test by Quest, and separately by the VA.

During a previous discussion with my primary physician, he said tests only with symptoms. He also said antibody tests have high error rate. Therefore they can give false sense of immunity, and therefore encourage unsafe behavior.

I get my temperature taken every 2-3 days at physical therapy. So I'll use them and symptoms as my initial screen, unless a physician directs me otherwise.

 
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #2956 on: July 16, 2020, 03:07:12 am »
Quote from: sneakypete on July 16, 2020, 02:20:44 am
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If I didn't know better and If I were the suspicious type,I MIGHT begin to suspect there was money being made giving these tests/

Gee,I wonder if anyone we know bought stock several months ago in any of the companies that provide the tests and/or gives them?

I would say so and I'd also say that there are a whole lot of people making some money off of this "pandemic".  The Kushner brothers come to mind -- one of their companies was/is an Obamacare insurer.  Labs have to be making a boat load of money, big pharma research, medical supply companies, etc.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #2957 on: July 16, 2020, 04:05:56 am »
07-16-2020 | 0:00 GMT

REGIONRecov:Death     Cases:Recov
Global (excluding China & US)  14.287 ↑   1.583↓
United States   11.745 ↑    2.197 ↓

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Largest case rises occurred in TX, FL, CA, GA, & AZ.

Today's new US Deaths compared to new deaths seven days ago:  +107.

14-day Recovery Deficit - 993,851.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #2958 on: July 16, 2020, 12:21:21 pm »
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #2959 on: July 16, 2020, 02:08:44 pm »
Quote from: mountaineer on July 16, 2020, 12:21:21 pm


Thanks @mountaineer! I'm fixin to make this as famous as I know how!
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #2960 on: July 16, 2020, 11:07:06 pm »
Quote from: Bigun on July 16, 2020, 02:08:44 pm
Thanks @mountaineer! I'm fixin to make this as famous as I know how!

While you are at it...I'm still pregnant....
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #2961 on: July 16, 2020, 11:10:06 pm »
Quote from: bigheadfred on July 16, 2020, 11:07:06 pm
While you are at it...I'm still pregnant....

YOU are gonna be filthy rich!
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"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #2962 on: July 16, 2020, 11:12:44 pm »
Quote from: Bigun on July 16, 2020, 11:10:06 pm
YOU are gonna be filthy rich!

Well, he's half-way there... Now to work on the rich part... :whistle:
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #2963 on: July 16, 2020, 11:23:18 pm »
Quote from: roamer_1 on July 16, 2020, 11:12:44 pm
Well, he's half-way there... Now to work on the rich part... :whistle:

Workin on my second million..... gave up on the first...
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #2964 on: July 16, 2020, 11:30:59 pm »
Quote from: EdinVA on July 16, 2020, 11:23:18 pm
Workin on my second million..... gave up on the first...

Good man! That's the way you do it (play the guitar on the MTV)  :laugh: :beer:
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #2965 on: July 17, 2020, 02:20:50 am »
07-17-2020 | 0:00 GMT

REGIONRecov:Death     Cases:Recov
Global (excluding China & US)  14.599 ↑   1.559 ↓
United States   11.902 ↑    2.200 ↑

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Largest case rises occurred in FL, TX, CA, GA, & AZ.

Today's new US Deaths compared to new deaths seven days ago:  +18.

14-day Recovery Deficit - 1,014,933.

The 14-day recovery deficit surpasses 1 million.  It shows that 35.8% of cases at least 14 days old remain classified as 'unresolved'.  That is 1 million people who have survived/recovered, but are still listed as sick.  If those people were listed as 'Recovered', then our Recovery-to-death ratio would be 19.1.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #2966 on: July 17, 2020, 02:39:15 am »
Quote from: Hoodat on July 17, 2020, 02:20:50 am
07-17-2020 | 0:00 GMT

REGIONRecov:Death     Cases:Recov
Global (excluding China & US)  14.599 ↑   1.559 ↓
United States   11.902 ↑    2.200 ↑

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Largest case rises occurred in FL, TX, CA, GA, & AZ.

Today's new US Deaths compared to new deaths seven days ago:  +18.

14-day Recovery Deficit - 1,014,933.

The 14-day recovery deficit surpasses 1 million.  It shows that 35.8% of cases at least 14 days old remain classified as 'unresolved'.  That is 1 million people who have survived/recovered, but are still listed as sick.  If those people were listed as 'Recovered', then our Recovery-to-death ratio would be 19.1.

Thanks for repeating the explanation of the recovery deficit. I'd wager a good number of those are months old.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #2967 on: July 17, 2020, 02:43:23 pm »
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BREAKING: Sources inside Trump Administration confirm to me that CDC has been misreporting the data for coronavirus to inflate the numbers.
6:35 AM · Jul 17, 2020


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Trump Administration official tells me that CDC was taking 7 WEEKS to compile & release key coronavirus stats.

Under pressure, CDC started reporting that data with 3 week lag.

So HHS took over data reporting from CDC.

HHS is able to compile & report this data daily.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #2968 on: July 17, 2020, 02:44:12 pm »
Meanwhile a 20 something who died in a motorcycle crash in Orlando was added to the lists of deaths caused by the virus.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #2969 on: July 17, 2020, 02:50:50 pm »
Quote from: txradioguy on July 17, 2020, 02:43:23 pm
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Under pressure, CDC started reporting that data with 3 week lag.

So HHS took over data reporting from CDC.

HHS is able to compile & report this data daily.
7:39 AM · Jul 17, 2020

So, the second peak that we are supposedly looking at more shut downs actually occurred 7 weeks ago?
Am I reading this right?
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #2970 on: July 17, 2020, 03:05:32 pm »
Quote from: EdinVA on July 17, 2020, 02:50:50 pm
So, the second peak that we are supposedly looking at more shut downs actually occurred 7 weeks ago?
Am I reading this right?

That's what it sounds like to me.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #2971 on: July 17, 2020, 03:09:03 pm »
It has recently come to light that if a CV positive person is tested again that gets reported as another case and it's true no matter how many times that same person gets tested.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #2972 on: July 17, 2020, 03:24:39 pm »
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Thanks for repeating the explanation of the recovery deficit. I'd wager a good number of those are months old.

They are.  Case in point:  The Grand Princess cruise ship.  This ship docked in Oakland on March 9.  Three days prior, test kits had been given out to all the passengers.  A total of 103 (around 9%) tested positive.  Three of the 103 died.  The remaining 100 are still listed as active cases.  Not one is listed as recovered.  Not a single one.  It has been 133 days since the tests were given.  You would think that after four months, someone could classify these 100 persons as 'recovered'.  But no.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #2973 on: July 17, 2020, 03:26:46 pm »
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They are.  Case in point:  The Grand Princess cruise ship.  This ship docked in Oakland on March 9.  Three days prior, test kits had been given out to all the passengers.  A total of 103 (around 9%) tested positive.  Three of the 103 died.  The remaining 100 are still listed as active cases.  Not one is listed as recovered.  Not a single one.  It has been 133 days since the tests were given.  You would think that after four months, someone could classify these 100 persons as 'recovered'.  But no.

If you have no symptoms and thus not ever treated for anything, HOW can you recover?
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #2974 on: July 17, 2020, 03:28:33 pm »
Quote from: Bigun on July 17, 2020, 03:26:46 pm
If you have no symptoms and thus not ever treated for anything, HOW can you recover?

Another great point.  Every asymptomatic person out there who tested positive will forever be considered an active case.
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