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American Dystopia: San Francisco In Decline
« on: January 08, 2020, 03:34:09 am »
If you didn't get a chance to see this ... I hope that you will take the 5 minutes out of your time to watch it.

It is Tucker Carlson's mini venture into the liberal destruction of San Francisco.
(Don't miss the question and answer session with the lady cop!)

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Re: American Dystopia: San Francisco In Decline
« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2020, 02:51:42 pm »
And the architect of all this in San Francisco is now the governor of
the whole state of California
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Re: American Dystopia: San Francisco In Decline
« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2020, 03:35:31 pm »
Liberals are not only stupid, they're dangerous.
Just twenty years ago the idea of allowing people to camp on public sidewalks and defecate anywhere they please would have been met with derision even by most lib Dems.
Today, liberals consider it a human right to do those things.
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Re: American Dystopia: San Francisco In Decline
« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2020, 04:46:16 pm »
Oh, come now, it's gotta be every bit as good as it was in May of '06...





1906, that is.
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Re: American Dystopia: San Francisco In Decline
« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2020, 05:50:12 pm »
Major Nuisance deserved his derogatory nickname, but SF was already becoming littered with bum-crap and used needles in the late 1990s, well before Goobernor Nuisance was merely Major Nuisance.
If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"? Is reality a Big Pharma Shill?

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Re: American Dystopia: San Francisco In Decline
« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2020, 06:18:13 pm »
Major Nuisance deserved his derogatory nickname, but SF was already becoming littered with bum-crap and used needles in the late 1990s, well before Goobernor Nuisance was merely Major Nuisance.
How far back do I have to go to see a S.F. without human feces on the sidewalks.  "Dirty Harry" (1971). "Vertigo" (1958)  or "Dark Passage" (1947)?

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« Reply #6 on: January 08, 2020, 07:31:44 pm »
How far back do I have to go to see a S.F. without human feces on the sidewalks.  "Dirty Harry" (1971). "Vertigo" (1958)  or "Dark Passage" (1947)?

I had to do some business in SF back in 1999. I took BART from the Peninsula up into SF and then walked several blocks to where I needed to go. I remember being aware of watching where I walked and for potential aggressive panhandlers. So the current mess goes back at least that far.
If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"? Is reality a Big Pharma Shill?

Millions now living should have died. Anti-Covid-Vaxxer ghouls hardest hit.

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Re: American Dystopia: San Francisco In Decline
« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2020, 08:47:41 pm »
Oh, come now, it's gotta be every bit as good as it was in May of '06...

1906, that is.
Just a little urban renewal. It couldn't hurt.
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Re: American Dystopia: San Francisco In Decline
« Reply #8 on: January 08, 2020, 08:49:08 pm »
Just a little urban renewal. It couldn't hurt.

Just paint and curtains, it's a cinch.
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Re: American Dystopia: San Francisco In Decline
« Reply #9 on: January 08, 2020, 10:10:08 pm »
I was there 20-24 years ago.  It was a beautiful city. But lots of homeless even then....with dogs as pets. Go figure.

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« Reply #10 on: January 08, 2020, 11:28:26 pm »
Just a little urban renewal. It couldn't hurt.


Time for the the big one.  It will cure a lot of evils.
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Re: American Dystopia: San Francisco In Decline
« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2020, 01:59:21 am »
Likely it cannot be redeemed.

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Re: American Dystopia: San Francisco In Decline
« Reply #12 on: January 09, 2020, 11:52:52 am »
My best friend lived there from the 70s until about 2007.

It broke his heart to see the rapid decline.

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Re: American Dystopia: San Francisco In Decline
« Reply #13 on: January 09, 2020, 12:23:43 pm »
This "American Dystopia" series is suppose to be on all week... we've talked of SF before, what is amazing is how San Francisco has been a tourist bonanza, one of the top tourist cities in the US if not the world, to see and all pictures I have seen of it's vaunted past at least, seem to point that way.

Tourism should be a big deal, commercial success, that you would think they wouldn't let this happen.

And at the same time, some extremely wealthy people there, in that area at least.

I think it was "Wheel of Fortune" but those game shows give away trips to scenic places and I think one time, it was to SF years ago.... and then, I remember watching a clip on youtube of an old "American Bandstand" episode and they were talking, "oh, everyone likes San Francisco".
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Re: American Dystopia: San Francisco In Decline
« Reply #14 on: January 09, 2020, 12:30:59 pm »
SF use to be on my bucket list of places to see. I love old Victorian houses (with gingerbread) and I wanted to see Ghardelli Square, Fisherman’s Wharf, cablecars, all the touristy things. Even Alcatraz!

My parents went there in the late 50’s and said what a beautiful city it is.

So I put it on my bucket list.

Not anymore. Which is a shame, because I Really wanted to see it someday.
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Re: American Dystopia: San Francisco In Decline
« Reply #15 on: January 09, 2020, 12:52:27 pm »
Careful Tucker, your liberal is showing.....


At the beginning of the video...


Governors run the states, Washington runs the county.

States do not get involved in Iran, Syria etc, that is Washington job.

Washington does not clean your streets, SF won't even allow Washington to enforce federal laws but you want them to clean the streets?


The real problems is liberals have lost their minds.

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« Reply #16 on: January 09, 2020, 01:31:18 pm »
I guess, in a way, it's a decline the way Detroit declined, reasons being different of course. I have posted this painting of Russian Hill of San Francisco, really lovely. And then, my beliefs are maybe Colorado, Denver, even Colorado Springs (not big enough for a comparison, though it does seem like crime has soared) have seen a bit of a decline in being wonderful historical places.



And then, all the TV shows and movies it's famous for, at least, the Dirty Harry movies, Streets of SF and I'm sure plenty more.
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Re: American Dystopia: San Francisco In Decline
« Reply #17 on: January 09, 2020, 01:44:32 pm »
SF use to be on my bucket list of places to see. I love old Victorian houses (with gingerbread) and I wanted to see Ghardelli Square, Fisherman’s Wharf, cablecars, all the touristy things. Even Alcatraz!

My parents went there in the late 50’s and said what a beautiful city it is.

So I put it on my bucket list.

Not anymore. Which is a shame, because I Really wanted to see it someday.
Much has changed since the 50s. When I was a kid, we used to go to Washington, D.C. for school trips, to see the Smithsonian, the art galleries, the works.
Now, it's not such a good idea for the visitor to get more than a couple of blocks off the tourist path, and really hasn't been since the riots in the 60s, unless you have a local guide who knows what they are doing or want to add getting mugged to your list of things to do in D.C.
I had relatives who lived there, (who had an apartment and an elevator, totally new concepts to me at that young age) who pulled stakes and moved to Arizona after the riots.
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Re: American Dystopia: San Francisco In Decline
« Reply #18 on: January 09, 2020, 03:06:21 pm »
I guess, in a way, it's a decline the way Detroit declined, reasons being different of course. I have posted this painting of Russian Hill of San Francisco, really lovely. And then, my beliefs are maybe Colorado, Denver, even Colorado Springs have seen a bit of a decline in being wonderful historical places.



And then, all the TV shows and movies it's famous for, at least, the Dirty Harry movies, Streets of SF and I'm sure plenty more.

I bet in the Fillmore District it is not unusual to see a naked man chasing a woman through a dark alley with a butcher knife and a hard on out collecting for the Red Cross these days..
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Re: American Dystopia: San Francisco In Decline
« Reply #19 on: January 09, 2020, 03:35:24 pm »
SF use to be on my bucket list of places to see. I love old Victorian houses (with gingerbread) and I wanted to see Ghardelli Square, Fisherman’s Wharf, cablecars, all the touristy things. Even Alcatraz!

My parents went there in the late 50’s and said what a beautiful city it is.

So I put it on my bucket list.

Not anymore. Which is a shame, because I Really wanted to see it someday.

Visited San Fran back in the early 70s.  The peace and love hippie days of the 60s were over and many of those who did drugs were down and out.  SF was full of them -- not just in Haight-Ashbury  but everywhere.   They were sleeping in every doorway.  Downtown was a sleazy mess.  So disappointing.  I had heard that in more recent times the city was revitalized and all those strung out hippies were gone.  I guess the place has gone all to hell again.    Too bad. 

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Re: American Dystopia: San Francisco In Decline
« Reply #20 on: January 09, 2020, 04:37:47 pm »
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CA is treating homelessness like the emergency it is.

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Re: American Dystopia: San Francisco In Decline
« Reply #21 on: January 09, 2020, 05:09:40 pm »
Liberals are not only stupid, they're dangerous.
Just twenty years ago the idea of allowing people to camp on public sidewalks and defecate anywhere they please would have been met with derision even by most lib Dems.
Today, liberals consider it a human right to do those things.
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Re: American Dystopia: San Francisco In Decline
« Reply #22 on: January 09, 2020, 05:14:24 pm »
Careful Tucker, your liberal is showing.....


At the beginning of the video...


Governors run the states, Washington runs the county.

States do not get involved in Iran, Syria etc, that is Washington job.

Washington does not clean your streets, SF won't even allow Washington to enforce federal laws but you want them to clean the streets?


The real problems is liberals have lost their minds.

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Re: American Dystopia: San Francisco In Decline
« Reply #23 on: January 09, 2020, 05:20:02 pm »
I guess, in a way, it's a decline the way Detroit declined, reasons being different of course. I have posted this painting of Russian Hill of San Francisco, really lovely. And then, my beliefs are maybe Colorado, Denver, even Colorado Springs (not big enough for a comparison, though it does seem like crime has soared) have seen a bit of a decline in being wonderful historical places.

 

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   I can't speak for the rest of those places,but it was refugees from California that polluted Denver when I was living there in the mid-70's. They had ruined California to the point they couldn't afford and didn't want to live there anymore,so they moved to Denver,bringing their lefitst ideas with them to screw up Colorado,too. Once Denver is like SF is today,they will move on to somewhere else untill they run out of "somewhere else" to move to. That's when they will start screaming for somebody (the police) to "do something" to make THEM safe.
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Re: American Dystopia: San Francisco In Decline
« Reply #24 on: January 09, 2020, 05:23:53 pm »
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No kidding. It's almost like he is starting an advertising campaign to tell junkies all over America that SF now has a billion dollars to provide them with safe places to live while they get high and sleep it off.
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