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Re: Drudge: Shutdown Agreement reached
« Reply #200 on: January 25, 2019, 08:09:46 pm »
Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on January 25, 2019, 08:04:57 pm
It really isn't all that amazing @Emjay  The people who have invested in hating Donald Trump simply ignore the consequences.

If their hate wins, my prayer is that they each live long enough to be forced to explain to their children and grandchildren why they applauded the destruction of the last man standing against the tides of globalism and socialism.

Really...we have listened for 2 years about this Wall...speech after speech.....and him proclaiming he is a great deal maker...yeah right...he let an 80yr woman get the best of him while 800 people suffered..all for nothing.....he has the power to get this wall built without Congress...why isn't he doing it...

We don't hate him..we are disgusted/pissed for believing him..
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Re: Drudge: Shutdown Agreement reached
« Reply #201 on: January 25, 2019, 08:10:56 pm »
Quote from: DB on January 25, 2019, 08:01:45 pm
So a whole lot of political damage for nothing is the short answer.



At least he claimed the record for longest shutdown.     :shrug:
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Re: Drudge: Shutdown Agreement reached
« Reply #202 on: January 25, 2019, 08:11:02 pm »
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So a whole lot of political damage for nothing is the short answer.

Bipartisan commission... 

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Re: Drudge: Shutdown Agreement reached
« Reply #203 on: January 25, 2019, 08:11:09 pm »
Quote from: Once-Ler on January 25, 2019, 08:03:19 pm
Enjoy your win.  Longest government shutdown in history for nothing but more Presidential disapproval.  "Art of the Deal" masterful.

Yeah, I'm telling you to enjoy "your win".  Or did you not pick up on that?   lol
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Re: Drudge: Shutdown Agreement reached
« Reply #204 on: January 25, 2019, 08:11:14 pm »
Quote from: dfwgator on January 25, 2019, 08:09:22 pm
If there is one thing we are guilty of, it is the inability to play the long-game.   This may have to be done piece-by-piece, and hope that future events will steer more people over to our side, but we're simply not going to be able to get everything we want at once.

It's just even the thought of Pelosi winning on this makes my stomach crawl.

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Re: Drudge: Shutdown Agreement reached
« Reply #205 on: January 25, 2019, 08:12:44 pm »
Quote from: aligncare on January 25, 2019, 07:57:56 pm
But how many times must trump have to say it, he has an ace in the hole: declaring a national emergency if the political process breaks down?

He’s re-iterated again and again that he wants to use the normal political processes for getting the wall – but, that if it doesn’t happen that way, he’s always got that ace.

The fat lady hasn’t sung, but let’s all wring our hands and gnash our teeth even while the game is still on.

I don't know, how many times does President Trump has to say it?
26?

Seriously, and I do not know the answer, but can he get funding by declaring a national emergency?
In 2006, approval for fencing was passed, than not funded.
Could the same thing happen again, should he declare a national emergency?

I don't think it will ever get done unless we hold both the house and the senate again.
It didn't when we held the house and a slim majority of the senate for 2 years.


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Re: Drudge: Shutdown Agreement reached
« Reply #206 on: January 25, 2019, 08:13:00 pm »
Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on January 25, 2019, 08:04:57 pm
It really isn't all that amazing @Emjay  The people who have invested in hating Donald Trump simply ignore the consequences.

I'm amazed anybody believed in Trump to begin with.  "Mexico will pay for it." :silly:

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If their hate wins, my prayer is that they each live long enough to be forced to explain to their children and grandchildren why they applauded the destruction of the last man standing against the tides of globalism and socialism.

Here I was thinking you were praying for a wall.  Thank you for your prayers for a long life.
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Re: Drudge: Shutdown Agreement reached
« Reply #207 on: January 25, 2019, 08:13:40 pm »
Quote from: Oceander on January 25, 2019, 08:01:28 pm
No, this is pretty much all on the Fumb-duck in Chief. 

Pretty simple rule he ignored: don’t start what you can’t finish.

So don't even try, 'eh.   Should have just gone with Jeb!   or Kasich, right?  *****rollingeyes*****
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Re: Drudge: Shutdown Agreement reached
« Reply #208 on: January 25, 2019, 08:15:06 pm »
Quote from: Oceander on January 25, 2019, 08:01:28 pm
No, this is pretty much all on the Fumb-duck in Chief. 

Pretty simple rule he ignored: don’t start what you can’t finish.

Could somebody tell me what Trump's strategy was...what was his end game?

From my perch, Trump really had no strategy. This 21 day extension may be the basis for declaring the national emergency, if we're in the same place as we were an hour ago.

Which will raise the question, "why didn't he declare the emergency in the first place?"

I'm certainly not opening any champagne bottles in celebration, and I'm not enjoying the various postulations of our friends in the Orange Brigade, as they search for meaning in Trump's punting.
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Re: Drudge: Shutdown Agreement reached
« Reply #209 on: January 25, 2019, 08:16:16 pm »
Quote from: GrouchoTex on January 25, 2019, 08:12:44 pm
I don't know, how many times does President Trump has to say it?
26?

Seriously, and I do not know the answer, but can he get funding by declaring a national emergency?
In 2006, approval for fencing was passed, than not funded.
Could the same thing happen again, should he declare a national emergency?

I don't think it will ever get done unless we hold both the house and the senate again.
It didn't when we held the house and a slim majority of the senate for 2 years.

Congress doesn't matter.  The GOP there has proven over the years that they agree with the Rats on border security.  They don't want it.  Only we do, and we don't get a say.
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Re: Drudge: Shutdown Agreement reached
« Reply #210 on: January 25, 2019, 08:17:57 pm »

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Re: Drudge: Shutdown Agreement reached
« Reply #211 on: January 25, 2019, 08:18:01 pm »
Quote from: RoosGirl on January 25, 2019, 08:07:04 pm
The time for doing that was 2 years ago.  Give the scope of the project, the environmental reports, the survey, the civil engineering plus the actual construction, not to mention the lawsuits that will hold any of that up.... uh uh, ain't happening in 2 years.

The great wall of China didn’t take as long to build as it takes getting important legislation through congress.

I hope folks can appreciate that Donald Trump has built hundreds of walls before in another career. He knows a thing or two about the process, the costs, what to expect.

In fact, he just may be the most qualified president ever to build a wall.
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Re: Drudge: Shutdown Agreement reached
« Reply #212 on: January 25, 2019, 08:18:15 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on January 25, 2019, 08:16:16 pm
Congress doesn't matter.  The GOP there has proven over the years that they agree with the Rats on border security.  They don't want it.  Only we do, and we don't get a say.

We haven't (really) had a say in decades now.   We just haven't wanted to face that harsh reality.
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Re: Drudge: Shutdown Agreement reached
« Reply #213 on: January 25, 2019, 08:18:21 pm »
Quote from: Once-Ler on January 25, 2019, 08:13:00 pm
I'm amazed anybody believed in Trump to begin with.  "Mexico will pay for it." :silly:

Here I was thinking you were praying for a wall.  Thank you for your prayers for a long life.

Cripes.  Even your snark is boring.   :laugh:
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Re: Drudge: Shutdown Agreement reached
« Reply #214 on: January 25, 2019, 08:18:25 pm »

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Not sure the President recovers from this politically. Seriously.
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Re: Drudge: Shutdown Agreement reached
« Reply #215 on: January 25, 2019, 08:18:48 pm »
Quote from: mystery-ak on January 25, 2019, 08:09:46 pm
Really...we have listened for 2 years about this Wall...speech after speech.....and him proclaiming he is a great deal maker...yeah right...he let an 80yr woman get the best of him while 800 people suffered..all for nothing.....he has the power to get this wall built without Congress...why isn't he doing it...

We don't hate him..we are disgusted/pissed for believing him..

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Re: Drudge: Shutdown Agreement reached
« Reply #216 on: January 25, 2019, 08:19:06 pm »
If the Republicans can't stake out any ground and have the courage to hold it then they have no strategy at all. They've given up on everything of importance. From Obamacare, deficit spending, social issues to border control.

The ONLY thing they have which is way past its sell date is "the Democrats are worse"... That's some sales pitch...
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Re: Drudge: Shutdown Agreement reached
« Reply #217 on: January 25, 2019, 08:19:13 pm »

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This President is a fighter and this moment - while not the best to be in is not the "final" moment. Trump is a fighter. He is NOT a whimp. Let's see what happens next.
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Re: Drudge: Shutdown Agreement reached
« Reply #218 on: January 25, 2019, 08:20:26 pm »

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Trump had two years of a favorable Congress to get the damn wall. He didn't.
Trump could've asked for full wall funding in the $1.3 trillion omnibus. He didn't.
Trump caves to Pelosi while Trump sycophants say he won. He didn't.
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Re: Drudge: Shutdown Agreement reached
« Reply #219 on: January 25, 2019, 08:20:54 pm »
Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on January 25, 2019, 08:04:57 pm
It really isn't all that amazing @Emjay  The people who have invested in hating Donald Trump simply ignore the consequences.

If their hate wins, my prayer is that they each live long enough to be forced to explain to their children and grandchildren why they applauded the destruction of the last man standing against the tides of globalism and socialism.

@Right_in_Virginia , if Trump is the "last man standing", we've already lost.

I'm a bit more optimistic, based on political events throughout American history. I'm fully confident that the Democrats will overreach (again), and it seems to be playing out before us. In their dash to be the next Dem nominee, the first dozen or so have been displaying a complete dearth of knowledge of the Constitution, and posing ideas that are anathema to flyover country.

There simply are insufficient liberals to vote these loons into office.
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Re: Drudge: Shutdown Agreement reached
« Reply #220 on: January 25, 2019, 08:21:04 pm »
Instead of focusing on the wall, why can’t the focus be on why they are coming here in the first place? Handouts, pure and simple. Stop the handouts. Stop free medical, stop free schooling, stop their filing for IRS credits. Go after companies hiring un E-verified employees.  Dry up their ability to live off the government tit. Go after identity theft. Dry up all the money sources for illegal aliens.
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Re: Drudge: Shutdown Agreement reached
« Reply #221 on: January 25, 2019, 08:21:13 pm »
Quote from: aligncare on January 25, 2019, 08:18:01 pm
The great wall of China didn’t take as long to build as it takes getting important legislation through congress.

I hope folks can appreciate that Donald Trump has built hundreds of walls before in another career. He knows a thing or two about the process, the costs, what to expect.

In fact, he just may be the most qualified president ever to build a wall.

Dude.... you're not making your case here (hate to tell ya).  More like rubbing salt in a very fresh wound.  Maybe you should just drop the subject for now..(timing is everything)... and wait a while to bring it up again?  lol   

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« Reply #222 on: January 25, 2019, 08:21:15 pm »

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Re: Drudge: Shutdown Agreement reached
« Reply #223 on: January 25, 2019, 08:21:23 pm »
Quote from: Night Hides Not on January 25, 2019, 08:15:06 pm
Could somebody tell me what Trump's strategy was...what was his end game?

"I'm not going to take no for an answer because I just refuse to do that, because I'm a winner, and winners we don't listen to words like "no," or "don't," or "stop."  Those words are just not in our vocabulary.  Winners always win."
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Re: Drudge: Shutdown Agreement reached
« Reply #224 on: January 25, 2019, 08:21:43 pm »
Quote from: mystery-ak on January 25, 2019, 08:17:57 pm
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