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Re: Drudge: Shutdown Agreement reached
« Reply #175 on: January 25, 2019, 07:54:46 pm »
Trump caves on the shutdown, threatens to go around Congress to get his wall
by Susan Ferrechio
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President Trump on Friday agreed to temporarily end the government shutdown without any guarantee of more money for his border wall after the five-week funding lapse had started to significantly hobble government operations.

"We have reached a deal to end the shutdown and reopen the federal government," Trump said at the White House.

Trump said he could agree to reopen the shuttered parts of government through Feb. 15, a move that will let hundreds of thousands of federal workers finally get paid.

But Trump also hinted that if Congress can't pass legislation funding his border wall by the middle of next month, he would be forced to declare a national emergency at the border. That move would let Trump spend emergency funds to build parts of his wall, although it's also expected to draw a legal challenge.

"We really have no choice but to build a powerful wall or steel barrier," Trump said toward the end of his speech. "If we don't get a fair deal from Congress, the government will either shut down on Feb. 15, again, or I will use the powers afforded to me under the laws and the Constitution of the United States to address this emergency. We will have great security."

Trump hinted at that option earlier in his speech as well.

"I have a very powerful alternative, but I did not want to use it at this time," Trump said. "Hopefully, it will be unnecessary."

Trump's announcement is expected to mobilize the House and Senate into quickly passing legislation to reopen the government through Feb. 15. Republicans and Democrats are also expected to hold a conference committee on a Department of Homeland Security spending bill, where lawmakers have agreed to find ways to boost border security.

That process isn't guaranteed to reach a decision to fund new sections of border wall, but Trump said he hoped lawmakers would see the need for new border wall. He also rejected Democratic complaints that a wall would be "medieval" and said the barrier he wants can be made of steel, not concrete.

"No border security plan can ever work without a physical barrier. Just doesn’t happen," Trump said.

"Over the next 21 days, I expect that both Democrats and Republicans will operate in good faith," he added. "This is an opportunity for all parties to work together for the benefit of our whole beautiful, wonderful nation."

The president's remarks came as Republicans were increasingly being blamed for the shutdown and the growing number of effects it was having on federal workers and the public.

Hours earlier, major airports began experiencing delays due to a high number of sick-out calls by air traffic controllers. Those controllers are among the 800,000 federal workers who are about to miss a second paycheck because of the shutdown.

Throughout the week, officials complained about the need for Coast Guardsmen to use food pantries to get by, that key FBI investigations were stalling, and tax refunds would be delayed.

The shutdown centered on funding for a southern border wall. Trump has demanded up to $5.7 billion in federal funds for a wall, but Democrats have not agreed to any money so far. And that fight prevented Congress from passing any bill to fund nine federal departments and dozens of independent agencies.

Trump this week was facing increasing pressure from Senate Republicans, who have become desperate to end the standoff. Republican lawmakers urged Vice President Mike Pence in a private meeting Thursday to find a way to end the spending impasse.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/congress/trump-expected-to-call-for-temporary-deal-to-end-the-shutdown
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Re: Drudge: Shutdown Agreement reached
« Reply #176 on: January 25, 2019, 07:56:20 pm »
Seems there's only one way forward for that to happen now and it's iffy given the lawsuits that will be filed to stop it.  There's no way anything is getting built in the next 2 years, and if it doesn't get built in 2 years it's likely there won't be an additional 4 years in which to try.

You nailed it!  No progress on the wall in the next year or so, and there won't be another four years for Trump.  If he insists on running in 2020, we'll have a Rat President inaugurated in 2021.
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Re: Drudge: Shutdown Agreement reached
« Reply #177 on: January 25, 2019, 07:56:49 pm »
So you don't think Pence will take the office either?
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Re: Drudge: Shutdown Agreement reached
« Reply #178 on: January 25, 2019, 07:57:01 pm »
 Stormy Daniels only got screwed once by Trump. I guess if you want the guy to screw you repeatedly, you have to be one of his voters.
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Re: Drudge: Shutdown Agreement reached
« Reply #179 on: January 25, 2019, 07:57:17 pm »
I bet Pelosi is in the Speaker's Office opening bottles of champagne....who would have thought the great deal maker to be outsmarted by Pelosi....

No we have to go through this again in 3 weeks...do you really think Nancy will fold then...lmao
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Re: Drudge: Shutdown Agreement reached
« Reply #180 on: January 25, 2019, 07:57:24 pm »
Can't we just secede already and be done with this nonsense?



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Re: Drudge: Shutdown Agreement reached
« Reply #181 on: January 25, 2019, 07:57:31 pm »
bleep dumb Congressional traitors as well.  This was a team loss.

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Re: Drudge: Shutdown Agreement reached
« Reply #182 on: January 25, 2019, 07:57:45 pm »
Trump caves on the shutdown, threatens to go around Congress to get his wall
by Susan Ferrechio
 | January 25, 2019 02:01 PM



President Trump on Friday agreed to temporarily end the government shutdown without any guarantee of more money for his border wall after the five-week funding lapse had started to significantly hobble government operations.

"We have reached a deal to end the shutdown and reopen the federal government," Trump said at the White House.

Trump said he could agree to reopen the shuttered parts of government through Feb. 15, a move that will let hundreds of thousands of federal workers finally get paid.

But Trump also hinted that if Congress can't pass legislation funding his border wall by the middle of next month, he would be forced to declare a national emergency at the border. That move would let Trump spend emergency funds to build parts of his wall, although it's also expected to draw a legal challenge.

"We really have no choice but to build a powerful wall or steel barrier," Trump said toward the end of his speech. "If we don't get a fair deal from Congress, the government will either shut down on Feb. 15, again, or I will use the powers afforded to me under the laws and the Constitution of the United States to address this emergency. We will have great security."

Trump hinted at that option earlier in his speech as well.

"I have a very powerful alternative, but I did not want to use it at this time," Trump said. "Hopefully, it will be unnecessary."

Trump's announcement is expected to mobilize the House and Senate into quickly passing legislation to reopen the government through Feb. 15. Republicans and Democrats are also expected to hold a conference committee on a Department of Homeland Security spending bill, where lawmakers have agreed to find ways to boost border security.

That process isn't guaranteed to reach a decision to fund new sections of border wall, but Trump said he hoped lawmakers would see the need for new border wall. He also rejected Democratic complaints that a wall would be "medieval" and said the barrier he wants can be made of steel, not concrete.

"No border security plan can ever work without a physical barrier. Just doesn’t happen," Trump said.

"Over the next 21 days, I expect that both Democrats and Republicans will operate in good faith," he added. "This is an opportunity for all parties to work together for the benefit of our whole beautiful, wonderful nation."

The president's remarks came as Republicans were increasingly being blamed for the shutdown and the growing number of effects it was having on federal workers and the public.

Hours earlier, major airports began experiencing delays due to a high number of sick-out calls by air traffic controllers. Those controllers are among the 800,000 federal workers who are about to miss a second paycheck because of the shutdown.

Throughout the week, officials complained about the need for Coast Guardsmen to use food pantries to get by, that key FBI investigations were stalling, and tax refunds would be delayed.

The shutdown centered on funding for a southern border wall. Trump has demanded up to $5.7 billion in federal funds for a wall, but Democrats have not agreed to any money so far. And that fight prevented Congress from passing any bill to fund nine federal departments and dozens of independent agencies.

Trump this week was facing increasing pressure from Senate Republicans, who have become desperate to end the standoff. Republican lawmakers urged Vice President Mike Pence in a private meeting Thursday to find a way to end the spending impasse.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/congress/trump-expected-to-call-for-temporary-deal-to-end-the-shutdown

All spin.  No wonder he was an hour late to the Rose Garden.
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Re: Drudge: Shutdown Agreement reached
« Reply #183 on: January 25, 2019, 07:57:56 pm »
@aligncare

I'd like to share your optimism, but this ain't my first rodeo.

@Bigun

I'm frustrated as well.

But how many times must trump have to say it, he has an ace in the hole: declaring a national emergency if the political process breaks down?

He’s re-iterated again and again that he wants to use the normal political processes for getting the wall – but, that if it doesn’t happen that way, he’s always got that ace.

The fat lady hasn’t sung, but let’s all wring our hands and gnash our teeth even while the game is still on.

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Re: Drudge: Shutdown Agreement reached
« Reply #184 on: January 25, 2019, 07:58:24 pm »
I can hear the cheers of the rabid, radical left as we speak.   Cheers and laughs.  But remember, lefties....

he who laughs last, laughs best.  And it really isn't (ain't) over yet.

So go ahead.  Celebrate your temporary, knee-jerk "win".  While you can.   :smokin:

Remember ... this is the kind of win you lefties always have...



A win that always relapses.    :silly:
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Re: Drudge: Shutdown Agreement reached
« Reply #185 on: January 25, 2019, 08:00:17 pm »
bleep dumb Congressional traitors as well.  This was a team loss.

Agreed....couldn't get the money when we had the House, will never get it with the Dems holding the House,,
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« Reply #186 on: January 25, 2019, 08:00:21 pm »
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Re: Drudge: Shutdown Agreement reached
« Reply #187 on: January 25, 2019, 08:01:12 pm »


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« Reply #188 on: January 25, 2019, 08:01:28 pm »
bleep dumb Congressional traitors as well.  This was a team loss.

No, this is pretty much all on the Fumb-duck in Chief. 

Pretty simple rule he ignored: don’t start what you can’t finish. 

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Re: Drudge: Shutdown Agreement reached
« Reply #189 on: January 25, 2019, 08:01:45 pm »
So a whole lot of political damage for nothing is the short answer.

Bipartisan commission... What a joke... The Republicans don't want a wall either... If they did they would have funded it when they held congress...

What a shit show.
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Re: Drudge: Shutdown Agreement reached
« Reply #190 on: January 25, 2019, 08:02:12 pm »
Side note, how is "Lock Her Up" going?

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Re: Drudge: Shutdown Agreement reached
« Reply #191 on: January 25, 2019, 08:03:10 pm »
But how many times must trump have to say it, he has an ace in the hole: declaring a national emergency if the political process breaks down?


Good question. He’s only been using this empty threat, since last March.
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Re: Drudge: Shutdown Agreement reached
« Reply #192 on: January 25, 2019, 08:03:19 pm »
A win that always relapses.    :silly:

Enjoy your win.  Longest government shutdown in history for nothing but more Presidential disapproval.  "Art of the Deal" masterful. 

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Re: Drudge: Shutdown Agreement reached
« Reply #193 on: January 25, 2019, 08:04:32 pm »
So a whole lot of political damage for nothing is the short answer.

Bipartisan commission... What a joke... The Republicans don't want a wall either... If they did they would have funded it when the held congress...

What a shit show.

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Re: Drudge: Shutdown Agreement reached
« Reply #194 on: January 25, 2019, 08:04:57 pm »
@Right_in_Virginia   It is amazing to me how many people here seem to work against their own interests.

It is in our interest for Trump to be President.  He will get a wall eventually and he is doing so many other things that are good for our country.

If Trump is somehow destroyed, opening the door for a democrat rule, we will face an unimaginable void and a loss of our country.

It really isn't all that amazing @Emjay  The people who have invested in hating Donald Trump simply ignore the consequences.

If their hate wins, my prayer is that they each live long enough to be forced to explain to their children and grandchildren why they applauded the destruction of the last man standing against the tides of globalism and socialism.

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Re: Drudge: Shutdown Agreement reached
« Reply #195 on: January 25, 2019, 08:05:01 pm »
No, this is pretty much all on the Fumb-duck in Chief. 

Pretty simple rule he ignored: don’t start what you can’t finish.

 :silly: You’re a hoot, @Oceander. Don’t ever change.

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« Reply #196 on: January 25, 2019, 08:06:47 pm »
It really isn't all that amazing @Emjay  The people who have invested in hating believing Donald Trump simply ignore the consequences.


Fixed it.
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Re: Drudge: Shutdown Agreement reached
« Reply #197 on: January 25, 2019, 08:07:04 pm »
But how many times must trump have to say it, he has an ace in the hole: declaring a national emergency if the political process breaks down?

He’s re-iterated again and again that he wants to use the normal political processes for getting the wall – but, that if it doesn’t happen that way, he’s always got that ace.

The fat lady hasn’t sung, but let’s all wring our hands and gnash our teeth even while the game is still on.

The time for doing that was 2 years ago.  Give the scope of the project, the environmental reports, the survey, the civil engineering plus the actual construction, not to mention the lawsuits that will hold any of that up.... uh uh, ain't happening in 2 years.

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Re: Drudge: Shutdown Agreement reached
« Reply #198 on: January 25, 2019, 08:07:11 pm »
I would hope Trump is not stoopid enough to give the SOTU until this is over and done with...

Having Trump say one thing and Pelosi sitting behind him shaking her head would be hilarious but probably not a good look.... :whistle:

Who you gonna believe Trump or Pelosi.... :shrug:

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Re: Drudge: Shutdown Agreement reached
« Reply #199 on: January 25, 2019, 08:09:22 pm »
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Overall, predictable denouement & why GOP leaders counseled against this strategy. OTOH, many Dems reiterated support for new barriers over past month & Trump demonstrated appetite for historic-length shutdowns. He won’t get a big win, but if he gets something, he should take it.

If there is one thing we are guilty of, it is the inability to play the long-game.   This may have to be done piece-by-piece, and hope that future events will steer more people over to our side, but we're simply not going to be able to get everything we want at once.

It's just even the thought of Pelosi winning on this makes my stomach crawl.