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Re: BASEBALL 2019---LET'S DO IT!
« Reply #250 on: July 20, 2019, 02:11:00 pm »
@AllThatJazzZ  Watched the game last night waiting for them to find your decked out self and put the camera on you.  Didn't happen.   :crying:
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She looked too classy for the camera people.


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« Reply #251 on: July 20, 2019, 02:17:14 pm »
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She looked too classy for the camera people.

Probably right!
"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

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Re: BASEBALL 2019---LET'S DO IT!
« Reply #252 on: July 22, 2019, 10:52:39 am »
Relative from the DFW area recently reminded me of how the rump rangers have won more silver boots than us.   

My only simple reply is whether he can state where the only world series trophy in Texas resides.... :cool:

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Here's a visual reminder you can send to your relative. Try to resist reminding him that they've dropped to 4th place. That would be tacky, right?  wink777


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Re: BASEBALL 2019---LET'S DO IT!
« Reply #253 on: July 22, 2019, 10:58:56 am »
I wasn't at the park that night, y'all, but look for me sans bling on Wednesday. Astros vs. Oakland A's. Verlander starts. Third base side near the Crawford Boxes. I'll wave.


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« Reply #254 on: July 22, 2019, 11:16:51 am »
I wasn't at the park that night, y'all, but look for me sans bling on Wednesday. Astros vs. Oakland A's. Verlander starts. Third base side near the Crawford Boxes. I'll wave.

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"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

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« Reply #255 on: July 23, 2019, 01:54:16 am »
Where are my Astros buddies? I hope y'all didn't miss tonight's game against Oakland. Eleven was a magical number. The night that was set aside to commemorate Apollo 11 was peppered with elevens all night long! I snapped a pic to text to my cousin and thought maybe I'd share it on this thread. Then I changed my mind ... until I noticed that this is page 11 of the thread. I took that as a sign, so here's a pic of the TV graphic with a few of the elevens.

Enjoyed the 3rd-inning interview with Neil Armstrong's son (who wore a jersey with #11 as he threw out the first pitch). Seven runs scored during that inning, bringing the score to 11-0. I'm not really superstitious, but I wouldn't mind if he visited the booth frequently. Just in case.


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« Reply #256 on: July 23, 2019, 07:41:44 am »
Where are my Astros buddies? I hope y'all didn't miss tonight's game against Oakland. Eleven was a magical number. The night that was set aside to commemorate Apollo 11 was peppered with elevens all night long! I snapped a pic to text to my cousin and thought maybe I'd share it on this thread. Then I changed my mind ... until I noticed that this is page 11 of the thread. I took that as a sign, so here's a pic of the TV graphic with a few of the elevens.

Enjoyed the 3rd-inning interview with Neil Armstrong's son (who wore a jersey with #11 as he threw out the first pitch). Seven runs scored during that inning, bringing the score to 11-0. I'm not really superstitious, but I wouldn't mind if he visited the booth frequently. Just in case.

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The 11th batter of the inning drove in the 11th run on their 11th hit.
All on Apollo 11 commemoration night.
Gerrit Cole?
He had 11 strikeouts.

A very potent line up now, and Correa should be back next week.

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Re: BASEBALL 2019---LET'S DO IT!
« Reply #257 on: July 24, 2019, 07:50:27 am »
NATS have Fette and Corbin going today in the Day-Night Doubleheader versus the ROCKIES today.

The NATS are 'only' 4 games back in the 'Lost Column' behind the Atlanta BRAVES.

...with Max Scherzer slated to pitch tomorrow for the finale of the 4 game series.    :patriot:
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Re: BASEBALL 2019---LET'S DO IT!
« Reply #258 on: July 26, 2019, 12:09:51 am »
https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2019/07/astros-to-designate-tony-kemp-activate-carlos-correa.html

I didn't realize I was signing up for this when I decided to become a baseball fan. My first taste of losing a beloved player was when the 2019 season started and Marwin was gone. Others, too, but losing Marwin was the hardest. Now -- and I understand the business decisions behind it -- we're losing Tony. I know for a fact that I'm not the only one who's shed a few tears over it. Maybe guys don't, but women do.

I'm sure I'll make the adjustment, but my heart will forever miss the presence of Tony Kemp on the Astros. And I'll probably feel a bit jealous of the next team he ends up on.

https://www.chron.com/sports/astros/article/Remembering-all-Tony-Kemp-Hugs-for-Homers-Astros-14135188.php


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Re: BASEBALL 2019---LET'S DO IT!
« Reply #259 on: July 26, 2019, 09:29:45 am »
https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2019/07/astros-to-designate-tony-kemp-activate-carlos-correa.html

I didn't realize I was signing up for this when I decided to become a baseball fan. My first taste of losing a beloved player was when the 2019 season started and Marwin was gone. Others, too, but losing Marwin was the hardest. Now -- and I understand the business decisions behind it -- we're losing Tony. I know for a fact that I'm not the only one who's shed a few tears over it. Maybe guys don't, but women do.

I'm sure I'll make the adjustment, but my heart will forever miss the presence of Tony Kemp on the Astros. And I'll probably feel a bit jealous of the next team he ends up on.

https://www.chron.com/sports/astros/article/Remembering-all-Tony-Kemp-Hugs-for-Homers-Astros-14135188.php

I understand how you feel @AllThatJazzZ but I look at it this way. Tony will likely land on his feet and become an everyday player wherever he lands. That probably would never happen for him with the Astros.  I wish nothing but the very best for him!
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"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
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Re: BASEBALL 2019---LET'S DO IT!
« Reply #260 on: July 26, 2019, 09:47:59 am »
I understand how you feel @AllThatJazzZ but I look at it this way. Tony will likely land on his feet and become an everyday player wherever he lands. That probably would never happen for him with the Astros.  I wish nothing but the very best for him!

When I was young, Rusty Staub leaving the Astros had a saddening effect.  Then at some point realizing how much money these guys made......   Didn't really feel sorry for those that got traded.  It's a business, and you got to put that in that frame of mind.
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« Reply #261 on: July 26, 2019, 01:30:05 pm »
I understand how you feel @AllThatJazzZ but I look at it this way. Tony will likely land on his feet and become an everyday player wherever he lands. That probably would never happen for him with the Astros.  I wish nothing but the very best for him!


When I was young, Rusty Staub leaving the Astros had a saddening effect.  Then at some point realizing how much money these guys made......   Didn't really feel sorry for those that got traded.  It's a business, and you got to put that in that frame of mind.

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Y'all give my friends and me too much credit. Our tears are selfish. We assume that Tony will have a bright future regardless of where he ends up. We're emotionally attached to him. The loss of his energy and personality leaves a terrible void for us. And as I said, I understand the business decision behind the move. I'm just surprised at the sadness I feel.

I'm getting an education in baseball. One thing I've learned is how much more personal the game is than football. Not that I would have heeded the warning, but it almost seems like new baseball fans should be issued this WARNING: Affection for individual players may be stronger than expected. Possible heartbreak ahead.

BTW, Tony's salary is modest. He's not one of those making mega bucks. I hope that changes for him.


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Re: BASEBALL 2019---LET'S DO IT!
« Reply #262 on: July 26, 2019, 01:52:05 pm »
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BTW, Tony's salary is modest. He's not one of those making mega bucks. I hope that changes for him.

If he becomes an everyday player somewhere that is sure to happen.
"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

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« Reply #263 on: July 26, 2019, 03:46:35 pm »
WARNING: Affection for individual players may be stronger than expected. Possible heartbreak ahead.
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I'll tell you a little secret: it might be applied to old baseball fans, too. Just ask, among others . . .

* Indians fans heartbroken over trading Rocky Colavito for Harvey Kuenn, 1960. (When Indians GM Trader Frank Lane, who was as addicted to making trades as some people are to coffee at the breakfast table, said he'd just traded hamburger for steak---never mind that hamburger was more than twice the run creator/run producer steak was.)

* Cub fans. Brockforbroglio. (It was said with such coordination that it sounded a) like one word; and, b) almost as though it were the actual surname of ill-fated Ernie Broglio, God rest his soul.)

* Astros fans who couldn't quite believe Trusty Rusty Staub was left to be snatched in the expansion draft that made him a Montreal Expo. (Where he became nicknamed, memorably, Le Grande Orange.) Or, that the Astros would trade solid double-play combination Denis Menke and Hall of Famer Joe Morgan to the Reds, where Morgan became one of the big keys to the Big Red Machine's mid-1970s success (not to mention a couple of World Series rings) and Menke would shift to third base. (Menke, as it turned out, was aging rapidly enough, but not before he suited up for the Reds and set a still-standing World Series record for fielding chances at third base without an error in the 1972 Series.)

* Mets fans over the "Saturday Night Massacre" trades involving Hall of Famer Tom Seaver and slugger Dave Kingman. (Said one banner at Shea Stadium after the Seaver trade: I WAS A BELIEVER/BUT NOW WE'VE LOST SEAVER. Even future commissioner and then-Yale president A. Bartlett Giamatti mourned the deal, writing---with a reference to that banner---"that among all the men who play baseball there is, very occasionally, a man of such qualities of heart and mind and body that he transcends even the great and glorious game, and that such a man is to be cherished, not sold.")

* Royals fans who thought then-manager Whitey Herzog lost his mind running slugging first baseman John Mayberry out of town and to Toronto. (They didn't know what the White Rat knew: Mayberry showed up hung over and high on pot for a critical American League Championship Series and was in no shape to play; the Royals got knocked out of the pennant and Herzog blamed Mayberry, spending the next season looking for a taker for him.)

* Cardinal fans who wanted to broil and baste Herzog (then the general manager as well as the manager) in due course for trading Keith Hernandez for three also-rans and allowing Hernandez, as the White Rat himself eventually acknowledged, "to get in our kitchen and rattle our pans" as the leader of the resurrecting 1980s Mets. (Those fans weren't aware of just why Herzog made the deal: Hernandez then had trouble with cocaine and, unlike other such players by whom Herzog stood if and when they cried for help, most notably catcher Darrell Porter and outfielder Lonnie Smith, didn't yet think he needed it. The trade scared Hernandez straight enough that he featured at the notorious Pittsburgh drug trials testifying that cocaine was "the devil on earth.")

* Angel fans watching the team let its most popular player of the mid-to-late 1980s, Wally Joyner, walk as a free agent. Unaware of team officials accusing Joyner of malingering when a staph infection took him out of most of the 1986 American League Championship Series, or of being a softie when he suffered rounds of injuries to follow, accusations that didn't exactly amuse Joyner. After Joyner signed with the Royals for 1992, Whitey Herzog himself---who'd been hired to examine the Angels' farm system and help with contract talks---said Joyner could have been kept an Angel, except that, "If there wasn't animosity on all sides, this deal would have been done by now. I feel like a damn divorce lawyer trying to decide who gets custody of this kid."

Among others . . .


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Re: BASEBALL 2019---LET'S DO IT!
« Reply #264 on: July 26, 2019, 06:31:52 pm »
we're losing Tony. I know for a fact that I'm not the only one who's shed a few tears over it.



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ATJ.....

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« Reply #265 on: July 27, 2019, 12:40:27 pm »
"...that among all the men who play baseball there is, very occasionally, a man of such qualities of heart and mind and body that he transcends even the great and glorious game..."

@EasyAce

Way to get the tears flowing again.  8888crybaby

Thanks for the examples of some of the heartbreaks and regrets in baseball. When I first took up this new addiction, I thought the only emotional rollercoaster part would be the wins and losses. Obviously I was naïve, but I'm already hooked. I'll take the highs and lows, but not without a box of Kleenex nearby.


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« Reply #266 on: July 27, 2019, 12:46:47 pm »
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ATJ.....

Thought you might enjoy this.....



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A bittersweet gif, but I love it. Thanks!


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« Reply #267 on: July 27, 2019, 12:52:14 pm »
@EasyAce

Way to get the tears flowing again.  8888crybaby

Thanks for the examples of some of the heartbreaks and regrets in baseball. When I first took up this new addiction, I thought the only emotional rollercoaster part would be the wins and losses. Obviously I was naïve, but I'm already hooked. I'll take the highs and lows, but not without a box of Kleenex nearby.
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A. Bartlett Giamatti's original essay, "Tom Seaver's Farewell," was originally published in Harper's in the September 1977 issue. It was also collected in the posthumous A Great and Glorious Game: Baseball Writings of A. Bartlett Giamatti.


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« Reply #268 on: July 27, 2019, 12:57:00 pm »
@EasyAce

Way to get the tears flowing again.  8888crybaby
p.s. I had two occasions to write about Tom Seaver earlier this year:

The Franchise could use a miracle.
When miracle workers re-convene.


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« Reply #269 on: July 27, 2019, 01:50:02 pm »
To my fellow Astros fans...

What's wrong with this July 2 StroPoll?



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« Reply #270 on: July 27, 2019, 04:46:40 pm »
To my fellow Astros fans...

What's wrong with this July 2 StroPoll?

Brantley missing as a choice?
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« Reply #271 on: July 27, 2019, 06:17:56 pm »
Brantley missing as a choice?

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While I can agree that Brantley needed to be on that list, I was thinking of someone else -- someone who's hot as a jalapeño these days.


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« Reply #272 on: July 27, 2019, 09:00:34 pm »
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While I can agree that Brantley needed to be on that list, I was thinking of someone else -- someone who's hot as a jalapeño these days.

YULI!!!!
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« Reply #273 on: July 28, 2019, 12:31:26 am »
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A. Bartlett Giamatti's original essay, "Tom Seaver's Farewell," was originally published in Harper's in the September 1977 issue. It was also collected in the posthumous A Great and Glorious Game: Baseball Writings of A. Bartlett Giamatti.

Interesting reading. Having only recently discovered the sport, I get lost in the esotericism at times. Therefore, I sometimes cheat and skim over certain parts, but I got the big picture. I also read your pieces that you linked in your next post. I'm glad Seaver was having a good day when his friends came to visit.

BTW, from looking at your numerous articles, I came away with two observations: (1) You're Canadian (or were educated there or in some Commonwealth nation), and (2) You're a writing machine! You must be very disciplined. It's possible I could have been as prolific as you had I been disciplined enough to make the effort. By the time I sat down to write down all those profound or witty or casual thoughts I'd been collecting in my mind, they weren't there. Kudos to you for your writing skills and for your dedication to the craft.


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« Reply #274 on: July 28, 2019, 12:37:07 am »


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« Reply #275 on: July 28, 2019, 01:30:49 am »
BTW, from looking at your numerous articles, I came away with two observations: (1) You're Canadian (or were educated there or in some Commonwealth nation) . . .
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I have a little surprise for you: I'm a native New York Jew, born in the Bronx and raised there and in Long Beach on Long Island. (Today I am a Jew who believes in Jesus Christ as the promised Messiah, though I'm not a member of any such formal congregation of similar believers just yet.) I learned British English from an eighth-grade English teacher who took a particular liking to me and thought I had some potential with a pen. In due course I went to college and graduated . . . and I received an education in spite of it. 
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My formal and informal concentrations were literature as a major with minors in political science and journalism. Asked once why I didn't major in journalism, I answered that other than the elemental courses in news writing, editing, and the like, I was getting better training for journalism as an Air Force intel analyst---including a full year on the old Strategic Air Command's daily intelligence watch at Offutt Air Force Base in Nebraska, where I also finished college (at the University of Nebraska at Omaha)---than I could possibly get in college or in a news internship.

(Any reporter who thinks daily deadlines in newspapers or radio are trying should have given that daily intel watch a pull, especially in the wee small hours of the morning when some lieutenant colonel in desperate need of a vacation would come blasting into our little shop every fifteen minutes or so on the brink of a nervous breakdown purring, "Dammit, the general doesn't know what he wants but he wanted it fifteen minutes ago!" Nothing in journalism ever seemed quite as trying after that!)

. . . and (2) You're a writing machine! You must be very disciplined. It's possible I could have been as prolific as you had I been disciplined enough to make the effort. By the time I sat down to write down all those profound or witty or casual thoughts I'd been collecting in my mind, they weren't there. Kudos to you for your writing skills and for your dedication to the craft.
Thank you for the kind words! As it happens, after my Air Force service I worked in regional daily newspapers, regional daily news radio, trade, and Internet journalism, in upstate New York, northern California, Louisville briefly, then southern California, before becoming what I am now and have been since I came to Las Vegas to live in 2007---a free-lance editor/writer (and blues guitarist).

I was plenty enough burned out on news before then, especially on too much of the phoniness in and around it, as it was. (You'd be amazed how much actual fake news gets ginned up at the regional level, away from the big media areas, too, and it takes a toll on people like me who simply had no stomach for that kind of fakery and not just in terms of regional government, law, and politics, either.) At long enough last, I began writing about the game I love in earnest during the early Aughts and I've stayed with it since. The free-lance life has allowed me to live the most stress-free life I've ever lived, and I'm grateful to God for every hour of it.


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Re: BASEBALL 2019---LET'S DO IT!
« Reply #276 on: July 28, 2019, 06:11:56 am »
After watching the two games vs. the Dodgers, it's painfully apparent that the NATS can't compete with the big boys.

...and that Davey Martinez is an idiot.
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« Reply #277 on: July 28, 2019, 08:53:23 am »
After watching the two games vs. the Dodgers, it's painfully apparent that the NATS can't compete with the big boys.

...and that Davey Martinez is an idiot.

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Still think the Nationals go to the playoffs.

And as far as being competitive, I'll just painfully bring up the '98 Astros who beat up almost everyone up to playoff time.

The Astros were great that year, and positoned themselves well with one of the greatest midseason acquistion in Randy Johnson.  On paper, we, (outside the Yankees maybe)  were the best in baseball.

But as the old saying goes .....   you don't play it on paper, and we ran into a buzz saw named Kevin Brown, and the results sucked.  (3-1 NLDS loss to the Padres)

What i am leading up to is, you already have Scherzer.  Just one more pitcher getting red hot come October, just might give the Nationals a fightong chance, especially in a 5 game NLDS.
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« Reply #278 on: July 28, 2019, 10:48:13 am »
@DCPatriot

Still think the Nationals go to the playoffs.

And as far as being competitive, I'll just painfully bring up the '98 Astros who beat up almost everyone up to playoff time.

The Astros were great that year, and positoned themselves well with one of the greatest midseason acquistion in Randy Johnson.  On paper, we, (outside the Yankees maybe)  were the best in baseball.

But as the old saying goes .....   you don't play it on paper, and we ran into a buzz saw named Kevin Brown, and the results sucked.  (3-1 NLDS loss to the Padres)

What i am leading up to is, you already have Scherzer.  Just one more pitcher getting red hot come October, just might give the Nationals a fightong chance, especially in a 5 game NLDS.
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Starters rarely go into the 8th inning today.   The NATS' bullpen can't get anybody out.

Anybody have little boys?   Teach them to throw a baseball from the mound to the plate at 95mph with control.

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« Reply #279 on: July 28, 2019, 06:16:23 pm »
Stephen Strasburg pitches a jewel against Walker Buehler. The Nats win, 11-4. Adam Eaton and skipper Dave Martinez get tossed for arguing a strike call on which a) Eaton thought he had ball four and was halfway up the first base line; b) every replay I saw of the pitch showed it should have been called ball four; and, c) Martinez hustled out trying to protect his player and he got thrown out. All in the first inning.

Breaking news: Marcus Stroman of the Blue Jays is traded to the Mets. Whom the Mets are sending the Jays isn't yet revealed. The Mets are doing this mostly for 2020 since Stroman has one more year of team control and the Mets might consider extending him before his current deal expires. It also means, likely, that at least Zack Wheeler is going to have a change of address with Stroman joining the Mets rotation. More to come . . .


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« Reply #281 on: July 29, 2019, 03:48:39 pm »
Absolutely.

Does Luhnow make a trade dealine deal? 

My sources say that all the prime targets are wanting suitors to empty the farm.  I'm hedging he tweaks at the most, and no blockbusters
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« Reply #282 on: July 29, 2019, 06:12:43 pm »
Does Luhnow make a trade dealine deal? 

My sources say that all the prime targets are wanting suitors to empty the farm.  I'm hedging he tweaks at the most, and no blockbusters

I know there's a July 31 deadline coming up and that players will be moving here, there and everywhere, but I don't know what @catfish1957's post actually means. Can anyone put that in layman's English so I can understand?


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« Reply #283 on: July 29, 2019, 07:09:30 pm »
I know there's a July 31 deadline coming up and that players will be moving here, there and everywhere, but I don't know what @catfish1957's post actually means. Can anyone put that in layman's English so I can understand?
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It means he thinks that

a) if the Astros want to acquire a player, that player's team may demand a nice haul out of the Astros' solid minor league system; or,
b) if the Astros want to move a player, they may want a good haul back from another team's minor league system.

I'm not sure the Astros need much of anything except maybe one pitcher who can start in a pinch and work out of the bullpen, but that's just my observation. Overall they're in immaculate shape for another postseason run. And I can't think of anyone off the top of my head right now whom they'd want to move.

But as one-time Astros pitcher Joaquin Andujar once said, "In baseball, there's just one word: you never know." There's still a lot of time between now and the trade deadline Wednesday afternoon, so who knows what GM Jeff Luhnow may or may not be thinking between now and then . . .


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« Reply #284 on: July 29, 2019, 08:54:06 pm »
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It means he thinks that

a) if the Astros want to acquire a player, that player's team may demand a nice haul out of the Astros' solid minor league system; or,
b) if the Astros want to move a player, they may want a good haul back from another team's minor league system.

How did you do that?! It's like you translated text from a foreign language into English. I read what @catfish1957 wrote about four times and could never come up with the meaning.


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I'm not sure the Astros need much of anything except maybe one pitcher who can start in a pinch and work out of the bullpen, but that's just my observation. Overall they're in immaculate shape for another postseason run. And I can't think of anyone off the top of my head right now whom they'd want to move.

Music to my ears. I'm with you about the pitching. I'll be watching how it plays out this year. Last year I was just getting my feet wet in baseball. This year I'm really trying to learn as much as I can about the game.




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« Reply #285 on: July 30, 2019, 01:22:11 pm »
How did you do that?! It's like you translated text from a foreign language into English. I read what @catfish1957 wrote about four times and could never come up with the meaning.


Music to my ears. I'm with you about the pitching. I'll be watching how it plays out this year. Last year I was just getting my feet wet in baseball. This year I'm really trying to learn as much as I can about the game.
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Situation update: MLB Trade Rumours says reliably that the Astros are going all-in to try landing Mets pitcher Zack Wheeler. So does The Athletic's Ken Rosenthal. The Astros seemingly stand to lose two starting pitchers (Wade Miley and Gerrit Gole) to free agency this fall, not to mention half a bullpen (Will Harris, Hector Rondon, Collin McHugh, and Joe Smith), but Wheeler makes sense for them only a) to solidify their postseason run this year; and, b) if they think they can sign him longer term.

Wheeler wouldn't cost the Astros much because as good as their farm system is some of their pitching talent were injured or regressed on the farm this year, so GM Luhnow may not have the leverage he'd need to go after a major league pitcher who's under team control for longer than the rest of this season, someone like Robbie Ray (Arizona; under contract through the end of the 2020 season) or Noah Syndergaard (Mets; under contract through the end of 2021). But there could still be a surprise.

Right now, these are the top pitchers on the trade market with Marcus Stroman gone to the Mets and Madison Bumgarner likely off the market with the Giants yanking themselves back into the races: Syndergaard, Wheeler, Edwin Diaz (Mets reliever, though the rumours include that the Red Sox are hot for him and might even be willing to surrender Andrew Benintendi in a trade), Mike Minor (Rangers starter), Shane Greene (Tigers starter), Matthew Boyd (Tigers starter), Felipe Vasquez (Pirates reliever), Ken Giles (Blue Jays reliever having a resurgence in Toronto until his elbow started to bark; if the Jays think about moving him as part of their rebuild they may have to wait until after the season), Craig Stammen (Padres reliever), Daniel Hudson (Jays reliever, and the word is that at least one team, the Nationals, was thinking about trying to land Giles and Hudson in a package to bolster their pen behind Sean Doolittle until Giles' elbow issue re-flared), and Mike Leake (Mariners starter).


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« Reply #286 on: July 30, 2019, 01:32:51 pm »
Does Luhnow make a trade dealine deal? 

My sources say that all the prime targets are wanting suitors to empty the farm.  I'm hedging he tweaks at the most, and no blockbusters
I still think they would like one more in the starting rotation, but the cost may be too high, as you have mentioned.
They still have a good farm system, but they have depleted it some, with trades they've made the last few years.
A lot of teams seem to be interested in Kyle Tucker.

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« Reply #287 on: July 30, 2019, 02:19:37 pm »
Trade alert: At 12:40 Central time MLB Trade Rumours reported the Astros are actually talking to the Giants about Madison Bumgarner---who's supposedly not that much on the market with the Giants looking now like they have a wild card run in them yet. The 'Stros may still be all-in trying to land the Mets' Zack Wheeler while preferring to land more controllable pitchers like Robbie Ray, but just that they're "discussing" about Bumgarner adds to the stew. Unless something drastic changes, the Astros are liable to pull the trigger on landing a pitcher before tomorrow afternoon's trade deadline.


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« Reply #288 on: July 30, 2019, 05:04:21 pm »
Trade alert: At 12:40 Central time MLB Trade Rumours reported the Astros are actually talking to the Giants about Madison Bumgarner---who's supposedly not that much on the market with the Giants looking now like they have a wild card run in them yet. The 'Stros may still be all-in trying to land the Mets' Zack Wheeler while preferring to land more controllable pitchers like Robbie Ray, but just that they're "discussing" about Bumgarner adds to the stew. Unless something drastic changes, the Astros are liable to pull the trigger on landing a pitcher before tomorrow afternoon's trade deadline.

Just as long as the names "Whitley and Tucker" are out of those discussion.   
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« Reply #289 on: July 30, 2019, 06:10:35 pm »
Just as long as the names "Whitley and Tucker" are out of those discussion.
Nobody's said yet what the Giants would ask of the Astros in any Bumgarner deal, assuming the Giants are still listening to offers.

Meanwhile, another rumour has the Angels casting eyes back upon Zack Greinke . . .


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« Reply #290 on: July 31, 2019, 01:11:58 pm »
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Meanwhile, for the second straight season the Astros bring catcher Martin Maldonado aboard, getting him from the Cubs for Tony Kemp. Apparently, the Cubs weren't kidding about getting Maldonado from the Royals two weeks ago: he really was there to hold down the fort until Willson Contreras returned from an injury. Maldonado has a spaghetti bat but he's terrific defensively and with pitching staffs. Guess the Astros missed him more than they thought they would.


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« Reply #291 on: July 31, 2019, 01:15:37 pm »
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Meanwhile, for the second straight season the Astros bring catcher Martin Maldonado aboard, getting him from the Cubs for Tony Kemp. Apparently, the Cubs weren't kidding about getting Maldonado from the Royals two weeks ago: he really was there to hold down the fort until Willson Contreras returned from an injury. Maldonado has a spaghetti bat but he's terrific defensively and with pitching staffs. Guess the Astros missed him more than they thought they would.

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« Reply #292 on: July 31, 2019, 01:24:13 pm »
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Meanwhile, for the second straight season the Astros bring catcher Martin Maldonado aboard, getting him from the Cubs for Tony Kemp. Apparently, the Cubs weren't kidding about getting Maldonado from the Royals two weeks ago: he really was there to hold down the fort until Willson Contreras returned from an injury. Maldonado has a spaghetti bat but he's terrific defensively and with pitching staffs. Guess the Astros missed him more than they thought they would.

That was an area in need of an upgrade.
Chirinos is older and Stassi isn't the answer.
Maldonado isn't young, either, but will upgrade the position for the stretch run.

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« Reply #293 on: July 31, 2019, 01:36:00 pm »
Observation:
While anything can still happen in the next few hours, none of the current front runners have made any blockbuster moves.
No Yankees, Twins, Astros, Dodgers, RedSox, Tampa bay, Nationals, etc.
The biggest moves have been made by the Mets and Reds.
Can you imagine having a Puig and a Bauer in the same clubhouse?
Yikes!
Correction: I just read (thanks @EasyAce) that Puig was dealt to Cleveland in the trade for Bauer.

On the Astros front:

A lot of dynamics here. I think if they get someone, it will be a loaner, not long term.
Why?
Gerrit Cole will most likely be gone after this year.
Stupid money, about 300 million, has been talked about with for him.
The Astros still will make a run at him, and he likes it here, but the price will be too high.
They've extended Bregman and Altuve's contracts, look for them to do this with Correa and Springer, who would become free agents after 2020.
Won't leave a ton of money for a free agent.
All is not lost.
McCullers should be back from Tommy John surgery, and a lot of pitchers have improved from where they prior to the surgery.
Also, locking down Altuve, Bregman and (hopefully) Springer, Correa, and Alvarez you have a good team for 5+ years.
That is still a powerful line up.
You would just have to fill in the missing pieces around them, as required, and the Astros do very well at scouting players, both up and coming and established players.

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« Reply #294 on: July 31, 2019, 01:50:46 pm »
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Meanwhile, for the second straight season the Astros bring catcher Martin Maldonado aboard, getting him from the Cubs for Tony Kemp. Apparently, the Cubs weren't kidding about getting Maldonado from the Royals two weeks ago: he really was there to hold down the fort until Willson Contreras returned from an injury. Maldonado has a spaghetti bat but he's terrific defensively and with pitching staffs. Guess the Astros missed him more than they thought they would.

Wasn't Maldonaldo the one with the pass ball meltdown a while back?  Sight upgrade anyway from Stassi.
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« Reply #295 on: July 31, 2019, 01:52:55 pm »
Observation:
While anything can still happen in the next few hours, none of the current front runners have made any blockbuster moves.
No Yankees, Twins, Astros, Dodgers, RedSox, Tampa bay, Nationals, etc.
The biggest moves have been made by the Mets and Reds.
Can you imagine having a Puig and a Bauer in the same clubhouse?
Yikes!
Correction: I just read (thanks @EasyAce) that Puig was dealt to Cleveland in the trade for Bauer.

On the Astros front:

A lot of dynamics here. I think if they get someone, it will be a loaner, not long term.
Why?
Gerrit Cole will most likely be gone after this year.
Stupid money, about 300 million, has been talked about with for him.
The Astros still will make a run at him, and he likes it here, but the price will be too high.
They've extended Bregman and Altuve's contracts, look for them to do this with Correa and Springer, who would become free agents after 2020.
Won't leave a ton of money for a free agent.
All is not lost.
McCullers should be back from Tommy John surgery, and a lot of pitchers have improved from where they prior to the surgery.
Also, locking down Altuve, Bregman and (hopefully) Springer, Correa, and Alvarez you have a good team for 5+ years.
That is still a powerful line up.
You would just have to fill in the missing pieces around them, as required, and the Astros do very well at scouting players, both up and coming and established players.

Add the fact, we have a sound farm system, and among the best GM's......    I think we will be competitive for some time.
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« Reply #296 on: July 31, 2019, 02:03:00 pm »
Wasn't Maldonaldo the one with the pass ball meltdown a while back?  Sight upgrade anyway from Stassi.

Yes, for all his defensive prowess he showed in the regular season, he did lose in the playoffs, against the Red Sox.

I don't know what happened, maybe he was just wore out from the long season, I don't know.
Uncle Charlie Morton and Lance McCullers throw a lot of curve balls, and all of a sudden, Maldonado couldn't block low curves.

You could even see A.J. Hinch hollering at him during a mound visit.
Can't read lips real well, but I did make out the words "Block" and "Plate" pretty clearly.

Maybe just a slight upgrade, but Maldonado has at least played good defense.
Who knows, maybe this will be his chance to redeem himself.


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« Reply #297 on: July 31, 2019, 03:10:15 pm »
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The latest from the trading floors and other matters . . .

* The Yankees' medical parade continues with Luke Voit facing sports hernia surgery. He's not expected back until "well into September," according to manager Aaron Boone.

* The surrealistic three-way between the Indians, the Reds, and the Padres barely settled in when the Reds sent pitcher Tanner Roark and cash (to cover most of Roark's salary) to the Athletics for a minor league player Wednesday.

* Noah Syndergaard's terrific outing against the White Sox Tuesday night pretty much pulled him off the trading floor for the Mets, who might still think about moving Zack Wheeler (starter) and Edwin Diaz (reliever). The Yankees and the Braves were thought still interested in Wheeler as of 11:30 Pacific time today. The Astros and the Rays are also still in the mix of teams talking to the Mets about Wheeler.

* The Nationals' bid to remodel their season-long-dubious bullpen (behind closer Sean Doolittle) got a bump when they landed Daniel Hudson from the Blue Jays for Kyle Johnston (prospect), and added Roenis Elias from the Mariners while they were at it.

* Barely half an hour after nailing Hudson and Elias, the Nationals dealt for . . . Hunter Strickland, the former Giant renowned for carrying almost three-year-old grudges and doing something about them at Nats' expense. (Shame Bryce Harper isn't a Nat anymore. P.S. The brawl Strickland set off by hitting Harper helped put paid to Michael Morse's career after his collision with Jeff Samardzjia.) The Nats sent the Mariners Aaron Fletcher.

* The Phillies dealt for Pirates outfielder Corey Dickerson, looking to fortify for a last-ditch stretch run without sacrificing heavy prospects. Dickerson homered twice in the Tuesday night game against the Reds---and those bombs were almost forgotten when the scrum heard 'round the world (thanks to Reds outfielder Yasiel Puig being traded to the Indians during the game) broke out in the ninth.

* There's word as I write that the Brewers and the Giants have a big deal in the making but that it may not involve Madison Bumgarner after all.

* Tigers reliever Shane Greene may be going to the Braves. May.
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« Reply #298 on: July 31, 2019, 03:16:02 pm »
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Well, there is still 45 minutes left....

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« Reply #299 on: July 31, 2019, 03:24:19 pm »
More trade news---the Cardinals traded infielder Jedd Gyorko (prounounced "jerko," the poor guy) to the Dodgers.



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