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A new Emerson College poll of registered voters shows the gap between Republican Sen. Ted Cruz and his Democratic challenger, Rep. Robert “Beto” O’Rourke, has continued to diminish to just a single percentage point.

Cruz has 38 percent to O’Rourke’s 37 percent, while 21 percent of registered Texans remain undecided.

The good news for Cruz is Texas Gov. Greg Abbott is polling well ahead of Democrat Lupe Valdez with 48 percent to her 28 percent. Ticket splitting on election day isn’t common enough that Cruz couldn’t expect to get some benefit from Abbott on Election Day.

However, Ted Cruz continues to suffer in perceived favorability compared to Abbott, with independents being the key factor viewing him unfavorably at a whopping 57 percent while Abbott is only at 41 percent unfavorable with the same group. The governor also holds an overall 47 percent favorable to 33 percent unfavorable, while Cruz is underwater by 6 percent with 38 percent favorable to 44 percent unfavorable.

https://www.redstate.com/prevaila/2018/08/27/new-poll-shows-almost-no-daylight-ted-cruz-beto-orourke-abbott-big/

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It would be a horrible tragedy if this phony little crook were to depose Ted Cruz.

Note to Mods:  I noticed you moved a previous story about Ted and Beto to Texas.  This is a national story and very important. 
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It would be a horrible tragedy if this phony little crook were to depose Ted Cruz.

Note to Mods:  I noticed you moved a previous story about Ted and Beto to Texas.  This is a national story and very important.

IMHO (and I don't live in TX) this is THE most important election in 2018...TX goes blue and I believe the rest of the country will follow.

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It would be a horrible tragedy if this phony little crook were to depose Ted Cruz.

Note to Mods:  I noticed you moved a previous story about Ted and Beto to Texas.  This is a national story and very important.

We need to kill this baby in the womb.  Beto will be a national candidate down the road if he wins in November.  We simply cannot allow that to happen.

I don't care if you think Cruz is Satan incarnate.   Beto must be defeated.

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We need to kill this baby in the womb.  Beto will be a national candidate down the road if he wins in November.  We simply cannot allow that to happen.

I don't care if you think Cruz is Satan incarnate.   Beto must be defeated.

I couldn't agree more.  I've been a Cruz supporter for sometime, but unfortunately, the guy is in trouble.  He won't get any support from his fellow GOP ... I thought he asked Trump for some help.  Looks like he's not going to get it.

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We need to kill this baby in the womb.  Beto will be a national candidate down the road if he wins in November.  We simply cannot allow that to happen.

I don't care if you think Cruz is Satan incarnate.   Beto must be defeated.

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How is this even possible? There is something about Cruz that just gives me the creeps,but the people in Texas seem to like him,and he has political history there. How can a newbie just come in and take it away from him?
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I couldn't agree more.  I've been a Cruz supporter for sometime, but unfortunately, the guy is in trouble.  He won't get any support from his fellow GOP ...

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How and why did this happen? Makes no real sense to me,other than the (most likely) very remote chance his supporters hold him running for President against him.
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IMHO (and I don't live in TX) this is THE most important election in 2018...TX goes blue and I believe the rest of the country will follow.

Texas isn't going blue if Cruz loses. It looks like all the other GOP'ers are doing fine in the state. This is a full rejection of Cruz. Between his circus act Presidential run, embarrassing convention behavior, general do nothing record and playing basketball with Communist late night hosts he isn't really setting himself up for success here.

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How is this even possible? There is something about Cruz that just gives me the creeps,but the people in Texas seem to like him,and he has political history there. How can a newbie just come in and take it away from him?

I know people get tired of this reason/excuse but the Texas press has been on a full-court press against Ted Cruz for some reason.  They are afraid of him.  The Dallas Morning News sends me a highlight page every day hoping I'll subscribe and there's nearly always a negative story about Ted Cruz and a positive one about that nasty little pretender.

I don't think there's a chance Ted will lose but it shouldn't be this close.
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I know people get tired of this reason/excuse but the Texas press has been on a full-court press against Ted Cruz for some reason.  They are afraid of him.  The Dallas Morning News sends me a highlight page every day hoping I'll subscribe and there's nearly always a negative story about Ted Cruz and a positive one about that nasty little pretender.

I don't think there's a chance Ted will lose but it shouldn't be this close.

Texas is getting Californicated,  I'm seeing it with my own eyes.

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Texas isn't going blue if Cruz loses. It looks like all the other GOP'ers are doing fine in the state. This is a full rejection of Cruz. Between his circus act Presidential run, embarrassing convention behavior, general do nothing record and playing basketball with Communist late night hosts he isn't really setting himself up for success here.

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Total mischaracterization of Ted Cruz.  He is probably the most conservative politician in America.  His knowledge of law and the Constitution is encyclopedia.  He is a charming guy with absolutely no negatives.

Trump was horrible to him during the campaign but unlike Jeb Bush, the postman and others, Ted has not held a grudge but has been helpful to Trump in every way.
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I'm not sure who votes in these 'polls' but I'm guessing many of the people who voted for Beto (the fake Mexican) are not eligible to vote.

Not sure Beto is eligible for office anyway.  He has a criminal record.
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Total mischaracterization of Ted Cruz.  He is probably the most conservative politician in America.  His knowledge of law and the Constitution is encyclopedia.  He is a charming guy with absolutely no negatives.

Trump was horrible to him during the campaign but unlike Jeb Bush, the postman and others, Ted has not held a grudge but has been helpful to Trump in every way.

That's all fine and good, but that is not how retail politics work in a local/state election. You want to know why Arlen Spector kept getting reelected in PA no matter what he did and Santorum got the boot after one term? Spector had some of the best district offices known to man so that when some old lady bitch about getting shorted on her SSI or some guy was pissed about too much moonlight coming in his bedroom window Arlen's people sent letters and got things done in one way or another. It's constituent outreach and it is the best way to stay elected.

Rick on the other hand didn't have that even though he talked a good game. Then he went out and involved himself with a woman in a coma in FL and voters were like WTF? We have our own problems in PA you are doing a shitty job managing. That looks like Ted right now. Abbott is every bit a Conservative that Cruz is, but he knows how to translate that to the public with deeds and results. Ted has a bucket of shit in one hand and a long winded lecture in the other. Both are totally worthless in getting reelected.

Can you tell me what the reason for sending back to the Senate is? He sure isn't telling anyone what it is.

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That's all fine and good, but that is not how retail politics work in a local/state election. You want to know why Arlen Spector kept getting reelected in PA no matter what he did and Santorum got the boot after one term? Spector had some of the best district offices known to man so that when some old lady bitch about getting shorted on her SSI or some guy was pissed about too much moonlight coming in his bedroom window Arlen's people sent letters and got things done in one way or another. It's constituent outreach and it is the best way to stay elected.

Rick on the other hand didn't have that even though he talked a good game. Then he went out and involved himself with a woman in a coma in FL and voters were like WTF? We have our own problems in PA you are doing a shitty job managing. That looks like Ted right now. Abbott is every bit a Conservative that Cruz is, but he knows how to translate that to the public with deeds and results. Ted has a bucket of shit in one hand and a long winded lecture in the other. Both are totally worthless in getting reelected.

Can you tell me what the reason for sending back to the Senate is? He sure isn't telling anyone what it is.

Can you tell me what the reason for not kicking PA the f out of the US is?  Seems to me a bucket of stuff in one hand and a long winded lecture in the other. Both are totally worthless.
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Texas isn't going blue if Cruz loses. It looks like all the other GOP'ers are doing fine in the state. This is a full rejection of Cruz. Between his circus act Presidential run, embarrassing convention behavior, general do nothing record and playing basketball with Communist late night hosts he isn't really setting himself up for success here.

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Oh come on Frank.  Talk about a circus your boy Trump manufactured a story for the Enquirer about Ted and women.  He was the one paying hush money to the whores he had.  Then more circus acts he paints Teds father as involved in JFK assassination.  That's pretty embarrassing behavior.  He and his Pecker friend had some good circus acts.

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That's all fine and good, but that is not how retail politics work in a local/state election. You want to know why Arlen Spector kept getting reelected in PA no matter what he did and Santorum got the boot after one term? Spector had some of the best district offices known to man so that when some old lady bitch about getting shorted on her SSI or some guy was pissed about too much moonlight coming in his bedroom window Arlen's people sent letters and got things done in one way or another. It's constituent outreach and it is the best way to stay elected.

Rick on the other hand didn't have that even though he talked a good game. Then he went out and involved himself with a woman in a coma in FL and voters were like WTF? We have our own problems in PA you are doing a shitty job managing. That looks like Ted right now. Abbott is every bit a Conservative that Cruz is, but he knows how to translate that to the public with deeds and results. Ted has a bucket of shit in one hand and a long winded lecture in the other. Both are totally worthless in getting reelected.

Can you tell me what the reason for sending back to the Senate is? He sure isn't telling anyone what it is.

Stop making a fool of yourself over this.  Ted has been an outstanding Senator for Texas.  Beto was afraid to debate him because he would have made a lot of taco meat out of Beto.

It's one thing to have some kind of personal grudge against Ted Cruz but it's quite another thing to let it turn you into an idiot.
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Stop making a fool of yourself over this.  Ted has been an outstanding Senator for Texas.  Beto was afraid to debate him because he would have made a lot of taco meat out of Beto.

It's one thing to have some kind of personal grudge against Ted Cruz but it's quite another thing to let it turn you into an idiot.

I'm calling a spade a spade. I have worked in state campaigns before and Teds has all the earmarks of trouble and he isn't doing a damn thing about it. Just today one of the Texas people here who is active in the party told us that Ted is making folks BUY yard signs. You are living is dream land if you think some politician who looks like a stiff on the stump and gives long winded Constitutional lectures with no tangible achievements under his belt is looking strong no matter how red the state is.

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   There is NO Political Machine in Texas stronger than the GOP and Ted kicked their azz in 2012.  In spite of having John Cornyn in his corner this time, he'll still kick azz.  In the interim the national dems are wasting so much money here on their wet dream beto, just like Davis before.    Texas may not still be crimson red but pink will have to do.
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   There is NO Political Machine in Texas stronger than the GOP and Ted kicked their azz in 2012.  In spite of having John Cornyn in his corner this time, he'll still kick azz.  In the interim the national dems are wasting so much money here on their wet dream beto, just like Davis before.    Texas may not still be crimson red but pink will have to do.

I'm not seeing it. Teds best shot now is to ride the Abbott wave and hope most of his voters are straight ticket folks.

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   When he ran in 2012 you pretty much had to donate to get a yard sign.  Bumper Stickers were free. 
   All that money he's saving can be transferred to his 'Hindsight is 2020' Campaign, so it's a win~win.
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I couldn't agree more.  I've been a Cruz supporter for sometime, but unfortunately, the guy is in trouble.  He won't get any support from his fellow GOP ... I thought he asked Trump for some help.  Looks like he's not going to get it.

Actually @libertybele  what Cruz said to the cameras that got so much attention was "we'd love for the President to visit Texas".

If Cruz wants help from the President I think it's incumbent on someone from his team to call the Trump team and start working out the specifics ... date, time, venue.  If Cruz feels he needs the  help, I'm sure he'll talk with his crew about making this happen.  I would suggest the sooner, the better.  As you know, campaign events with the President are booking fast.

If Cruz doesn't want or need the President's help, Cruz's team will not make the call.

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   There is NO Political Machine in Texas stronger than the GOP and Ted kicked their azz in 2012.  In spite of having John Cornyn in his corner this time, he'll still kick azz. 

If I remember correctly, Cruz also had Palin campaigning with/for him.  Is she helping now?

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   When he ran in 2012 you pretty much had to donate to get a yard sign.  Bumper Stickers were free. 
   All that money he's saving can be transferred to his 'Hindsight is 2020' Campaign, so it's a win~win.

Oh. So he is saving up his war chest to make another Quixotic run in 2020......as an ex Senator. Where have I heard that plan before?


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You don't turn down a debate invite if you're far behind.  You turn it down when you've got a good chance of winning and don't want to take the chance of blowing it.

Hey. Someone just got BINGO!!!!

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If I remember correctly, Cruz also had Palin campaigning with/for him.  Is she helping now?

   Yes @Right_in_Virginia you are correct, Rubio also showed up.  Your Guy was pre occupied with the De Blassio election in NY, so couldn't make an appearance.
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You don't turn down a debate invite if you're far behind.  You turn it down when you've got a good chance of winning and don't want to take the chance of blowing it.

I Agree.
I hate to say that, as a Cruz supporter.
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   Yes @Right_in_Virginia you are correct, Rubio also showed up.  Your Guy was pre occupied with the De Blassio election in NY, so couldn't make an appearance.

Well if it wasn't for the President of the United State Donald Trump your flailing one term soon to be ex-Senator Ted Cruz wouldn't have any horsepower behind his race. All his old friends seem to be busy this go round.

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   Yes @Right_in_Virginia you are correct, Rubio also showed up.  Your Guy was pre occupied with the De Blassio election in NY, so couldn't make an appearance.

I really don't think you're in a position to throw the snark around.  I don't want to lose the seat, and neither does "my guy".  So, get busy doing something worthwhile.

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   Palin is on her way to Texas, unfortunately we lost all contact with her somewhere around Montana, @roamer_1 is definitely a person of interest in her disappearance.



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   Palin is on her way to Texas, unfortunately we lost all contact with her somewhere around Montana, @roamer_1 is definitely a person of interest in her disappearance.


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I really don't think you're in a position to throw the snark around.  I don't want to lose the seat, and neither does "my guy".  So, get busy doing something worthwhile.
   

Stop it @corbe.
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I'm calling a spade a spade. I have worked in state campaigns before and Teds has all the earmarks of trouble and he isn't doing a damn thing about it. Just today one of the Texas people here who is active in the party told us that Ted is making folks BUY yard signs. You are living is dream land if you think some politician who looks like a stiff on the stump and gives long winded Constitutional lectures with no tangible achievements under his belt is looking strong no matter how red the state is.

Obviously, you have never seen Ted Cruz on the stump or at forums where he interacts with constituents.  I have seen him call a mortal enemy up to the stage to discuss an issue with him and turned that enemy into a friend and supporter.

It's not only Texas that is at risk.  Ted Cruz and Mike Lee are two of the best people in the Senate.  I like Rand Paul also but he is not as consistently conservative as Ted is.

That rumor about Ted making people buy yard signs was probably started by Beto's people.  I am ashamed that an ordinarily level-headed guy like you fell for it.

The first time Ted ran for the Senate, he was a virtual unknown in state politics and had a very popular opponent who was an in-guy in Texas politics.  Ted beat the guy easily.

I think it is out of state money and propaganda that is driving this race.  Ted Cruz is everything the left is not and they cannot stand it.
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Hey. Someone just got BINGO!!!!

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Not really.  Beto is not at all knowledgeable about the issues.  He is afraid to debate Cruz and he should be.
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   Palin is on her way to Texas, unfortunately we lost all contact with her somewhere around Montana, @roamer_1 is definitely a person of interest in her disappearance.



Yeah @corbe ... She was here... Word got out that I was making my world famous Baloney, Pickles, and Cheese sammiches, and everybody for miles around comes arunnin.

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How and why did this happen? Makes no real sense to me,other than the (most likely) very remote chance his supporters hold him running for President against him.

I think a few of Ted Cruz 'enemies' are doing just that.  It is a real shame because Ted Cruz never took the low road in the primaries and Trump was vicious and unfair to him.

In spite of that, Ted Cruz has been totally fair to Trump and his Presidency and, if he holds any grudges, he's kept it private.

That is not true of most of Trump's primary opponents.  Most of them still hate him and refuse to support him.  I cannot understand why Ted Cruz does not get respect from some of the most fervent Trump supporters.
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Obviously, you have never seen Ted Cruz on the stump or at forums where he interacts with constituents.  I have seen him call a mortal enemy up to the stage to discuss an issue with him and turned that enemy into a friend and supporter.

It's not only Texas that is at risk.  Ted Cruz and Mike Lee are two of the best people in the Senate.  I like Rand Paul also but he is not as consistently conservative as Ted is.

That rumor about Ted making people buy yard signs was probably started by Beto's people.  I am ashamed that an ordinarily level-headed guy like you fell for it.

The first time Ted ran for the Senate, he was a virtual unknown in state politics and had a very popular opponent who was an in-guy in Texas politics.  Ted beat the guy easily.

I think it is out of state money and propaganda that is driving this race.  Ted Cruz is everything the left is not and they cannot stand it.

You are out of touch. Just look at the how he failed miserably on his Presidential run. Trump was filling stadiums while Cruz couldn't fill town halls. You may love Cruz's long winded speeches to nowhere. No one else does. We have tangible proof of that with actual election results. Ted has likability problems out the ass.

BTW it wasn't some rumor about the yard signs from Beto people. It was one of our people who actually lives there and is involved in the process...

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If I remember correctly, Cruz also had Palin campaigning with/for him.  Is she helping now?

@Right_in_Virginia   Disappointed that you would bring that up since it is an obvious ploy to make Ted Cruz look bad.  Very disappointed.
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In spite of that, Ted Cruz has been totally fair to Trump and his Presidency and, if he holds any grudges, he's kept it private.

I guess you were in bed when Ted gave his embarrassing speech at the Convention.

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I guess you were in bed when Ted gave his embarrassing speech at the Convention.

   You obviously have not read Green Eggs and Ham @Frank Cannon, 'Vote your Conscience' is on page 8.
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Ya know, I am taking a risk here because I am already in big trouble with one of the Mods, but I fail to understand why an important Senate race in Texas gets moved out of politics and into the Texas forum where nobody will ever see it. 

Am I wrong but didn't we have about 100 threads about an Alabama election and Roy Moore that stayed in 'politics' for weeks?
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Ya know, I am taking a risk here because I am already in big trouble with one of the Mods, but I fail to understand why an important Senate race in Texas gets moved out of politics and into the Texas forum where nobody will ever see it. 

Am I wrong but didn't we have about 100 threads about an Alabama election and Roy Moore that stayed in 'politics' for weeks?

That's my fault. I asked the Mods to move it, but I asked them to move it to the New Jersey section because it is a Cruz story and NJ is the closest state we have to Canada.

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   I don't agree with the current policy regarding Cruz Threads either @Emjay, since he's such a puppet of Goldman Sachs all his stuff should be in the Business/Economy Category or Scandal.



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   I don't agree with the current policy regarding Cruz Threads either @Emjay, since he's such a puppet of Goldman Sachs all his stuff should be in the Business/Economy Category or Scandal.




Who wants a turncoat lying Goldman Sachs puppet with an ugly wife in the Senate anyway?

Was there anyone more hated by Trump supporters? I can't think of anyone.

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   I don't agree with the current policy regarding Cruz Threads either @Emjay, since he's such a puppet of Goldman Sachs all his stuff should be in the Business/Economy Category or Scandal.




Ha, ha @corbe   But everyone knows this race is important nationally.  I do not agree with moving it to Texas.  The only reason it got as many responses as it did was that the Mods didn't butt in for a while.
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I couldn't agree more.  I've been a Cruz supporter for sometime, but unfortunately, the guy is in trouble.  He won't get any support from his fellow GOP ... I thought he asked Trump for some help.  Looks like he's not going to get it.

Thanks for this story. I’m sending him a few dollars today. Ted. Not the other guy, I do like Ted.
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That's my fault. I asked the Mods to move it, but I asked them to move it to the New Jersey section because it is a Cruz story and NJ is the closest state we have to Canada.


Ummm. I would think NY over NJ? Or NH or Vermont? Isn’t Bernie from Vermont?

But that gives me an idea. Bubbles for Congress! (Or Ricky or Julian)
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@Right_in_Virginia   Disappointed that you would bring that up since it is an obvious ploy to make Ted Cruz look bad.  Very disappointed.

It's a reminder that Cruz had a lot of help when he "kicked arse" as Corbe said in 2012, 

I hope Cruz is not too proud to ask for help if he needs it now @Emjay   If he is, *this* should be what disappoints you.

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IMHO (and I don't live in TX) this is THE most important election in 2018...TX goes blue and I believe the rest of the country will follow.

Texas isn't going blue.  Look at the numbers in the governor's race for proof of that.   This race is a referendum on Cruz -  a guy who rubs lots of folks the wrong way.
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