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Los Angeles painting city streets white in bid to combat climate change
« on: April 10, 2018, 08:25:41 pm »
SOURCE: FOX NEWS

URL: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/04/10/los-angeles-painting-city-streets-white-in-bid-to-combat-climate-change.html


California officials are hoping their latest attempt to stem the rising tides of climate change leads to a more socially conscious -- and cooler -- summer.

Officials in Los Angeles have been painting streets white to reduce the effect of urban "heat islands" and combat the effects of climate change.

The LA Street Services began rolling out the project last May, which preliminary testing shows has reduced the temperature of roadways by up to 10 degrees. The project involves applying a light gray coating of the product CoolSeal, made by the company GuardTop.

"CoolSeal is applied like conventional sealcoats to asphalt surfaces to protect and maintain the quality and longevity of the surface," according to the company website. "While most cool pavements on the market are polymer based, CoolSeal is a water-based, asphalt emulsion."

While each coasting could can last up to seven years, they are also pricey, with the estimated cost of $40,000 per mile, the L.A. Daily News reported.

CoolSeal does pass the California skid test in addition to the slip test for wet traction, and is applied in two coats, each 50 microns thick, over an asphalt roadway or a slurry-sealed asphalt roadway, according to the streets department.

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Re: Los Angeles painting city streets white in bid to combat climate change
« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2018, 08:27:18 pm »

Each coating of CoolSeal is estimated to cost $40,000 a mile, city officials told the LA Daily News.  (LA Street Services)


The sealant has reduced roadway temperatures by up to 10 degrees in testing.  (LA Street Services)

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Re: Los Angeles painting city streets white in bid to combat climate change
« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2018, 08:28:12 pm »

Painting streets white to reduce the effect of urban "heat islands.
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Re: Los Angeles painting city streets white in bid to combat climate change
« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2018, 08:54:45 pm »
Lots of spending of taxpayer money, little facts or science.

Yep, smells like government.
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Re: Los Angeles painting city streets white in bid to combat climate change
« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2018, 09:00:22 pm »
Quote from: SirLinksALot on April 10, 2018, 08:28:12 pm

Painting streets white to reduce the effect of urban "heat islands.

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Re: Los Angeles painting city streets white in bid to combat climate change
« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2018, 09:29:22 pm »
Tahts rassis.
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Re: Los Angeles painting city streets white in bid to combat climate change
« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2018, 11:09:04 pm »
Kids will be laying rubber, doing donuts in no time. It's like a blank canvas for car tire art.
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Re: Los Angeles painting city streets white in bid to combat climate change
« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2018, 11:25:45 pm »
Quote from: mountaineer on April 10, 2018, 11:09:04 pm
Kids will be laying rubber, doing donuts in no time. It's like a blank canvas for car tire art.

The Top Gear guys got pretty good at that...
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Re: Los Angeles painting city streets white in bid to combat climate change
« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2018, 11:26:57 pm »
I wonder how slick it is when wet???

Or how about a little oil...
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Re: Los Angeles painting city streets white in bid to combat climate change
« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2018, 11:30:47 pm »
We will never hear about it, but traffic accidents are going to skyrocket on these roads because drivers will be disoriented by white roads which they are not used to. Especially if they are high or drunk. They will think they have crossed into a different dimension.
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Re: Los Angeles painting city streets white in bid to combat climate change
« Reply #10 on: April 10, 2018, 11:35:38 pm »
I suspect there will be quite a bit of glare in that L.A. sunshine, too.
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Re: Los Angeles painting city streets white in bid to combat climate change
« Reply #11 on: April 10, 2018, 11:58:37 pm »
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Re: Los Angeles painting city streets white in bid to combat climate change
« Reply #12 on: April 11, 2018, 12:04:17 am »
Quote from: mountaineer on April 10, 2018, 11:35:38 pm
I suspect there will be quite a bit of glare in that L.A. sunshine, too.

That is my criticism.  I live in one of those "bright sunshine" places, like LA, and this seems really stupid.  Imagine turning on to one of these streets, a half-hour before sundown or after sunrise.  I can barely see the streets right now.
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Re: Los Angeles painting city streets white in bid to combat climate change
« Reply #13 on: April 11, 2018, 03:04:10 am »
In the unlikely event it snows, then what?  (If you're from North Dakota, that's one of the first things you think of.( That's street is going to be blindingly bright on a sunny day, too.
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Re: Los Angeles painting city streets white in bid to combat climate change
« Reply #14 on: April 11, 2018, 04:06:14 am »
Soooo......these Cali clowns think that this going to something for the environment? Any minuscule environmental effect is erased 6 times over by all the gas and oil products used to make and apply it. Beyond that, do these simpletons not know what is going to be happening on this surface that will be blackening it in a week?

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Re: Los Angeles painting city streets white in bid to combat climate change
« Reply #15 on: April 11, 2018, 12:34:41 pm »
Quote from: Frank Cannon on April 11, 2018, 04:06:14 am
Soooo......these Cali clowns think that this going to something for the environment? Any minuscule environmental effect is erased 6 times over by all the gas and oil products used to make and apply it. Beyond that, do these simpletons not know what is going to be happening on this surface that will be blackening it in a week?


Just Gubmint putting more money in someone's pocket, Frank.
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Re: Los Angeles painting city streets white in bid to combat climate change
« Reply #16 on: April 11, 2018, 01:13:04 pm »


That looks suspiciously like a Full Employment Act for unionized California state transportation department workers, local police department road details, and state inspectors. 

And it will be repeated every couple of years, once the combination of tire tread residue, heat, airborne ash, acidic rainwater and smog conspire to darken it once more. 
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Re: Los Angeles painting city streets white in bid to combat climate change
« Reply #17 on: April 11, 2018, 01:25:15 pm »
Obviously the result of a brilliant study performed at a California University with a state grant.

I wonder who owns CoolSeal anyway?  Jerry Brown?

And runnning the numbers here:  $40,000 for a mile of streets that lasts only 7 years, so almost $6,000 per year per mile.
This earlier article http://nationalpost.com/news/world/l-a-is-coating-its-streets-with-material-that-hides-planes-from-spy-satellites-to-fight-climate-change
says LA is assessing to cover 1/3 of the city's 69,000 blocks of asphalt streets with this material as it "might be able to move the needle on the city’s temperature."

That would be 23,000 blocks or maybe 2,000 miles of roads.  At $6k per mile, that would be a permanent increase on roads of $12,000,000 per year, every year.

A lot of money spent on nothing but wishing.

Somebody is making a bundle of money here.
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Re: Los Angeles painting city streets white in bid to combat climate change
« Reply #18 on: April 11, 2018, 01:43:01 pm »
Cool Seal is Part of Western Emulsions which is owned by Idaho Asphalt Supply which id run by President and CEO Kevin M. Trant and CFO Mark Happ, Western Emulsions was founded by the Koleas family in 1977 in Tucson AZ.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/idaho-asphalt-supply-acquires-western-130000329.html
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Re: Los Angeles painting city streets white in bid to combat climate change
« Reply #19 on: April 11, 2018, 05:42:32 pm »
Quote from: IsailedawayfromFR on April 11, 2018, 01:25:15 pm
Obviously the result of a brilliant study performed at a California University with a state grant.

I wonder who owns CoolSeal anyway?  Jerry Brown?

And runnning the numbers here:  $40,000 for a mile of streets that lasts only 7 years, so almost $6,000 per year per mile.
This earlier article http://nationalpost.com/news/world/l-a-is-coating-its-streets-with-material-that-hides-planes-from-spy-satellites-to-fight-climate-change
says LA is assessing to cover 1/3 of the city's 69,000 blocks of asphalt streets with this material as it "might be able to move the needle on the city’s temperature."

That would be 23,000 blocks or maybe 2,000 miles of roads.  At $6k per mile, that would be a permanent increase on roads of $12,000,000 per year, every year.

A lot of money spent on nothing but wishing.

Somebody is making a bundle of money here.
Oh, Yeah.

I wonder what color the new lane lines will be? White won't cut it, and yellow won't have enough contrast. Maybe a nice, reflective black?  **nononono*
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Re: Los Angeles painting city streets white in bid to combat climate change
« Reply #20 on: April 11, 2018, 05:45:24 pm »
Los Angeles painting city streets white

...They're painting their passports brown....
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Re: Los Angeles painting city streets white in bid to combat climate change
« Reply #21 on: April 11, 2018, 05:56:42 pm »
Quote from: GrouchoTex on April 11, 2018, 05:45:24 pm
Los Angeles painting city streets white

...They're painting their passports brown....

Just let Mexico have it and get it over with.
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Re: Los Angeles painting city streets white in bid to combat climate change
« Reply #22 on: April 11, 2018, 06:05:56 pm »
Quote from: dfwgator on April 11, 2018, 05:56:42 pm
Just let Mexico have it and get it over with.
@dfwgator
That is a very good point I had never thought of before. If Mexico were in control of California, there is a very strong chance that they would be much more reasonable than the Californians who are there now.

The Mexican government is as corrupt as all Latin American countries are, but they are not suicidal and they are not loony-toons like the California government is now. Mexico wouldn't let rapist, gang-members, and murderers run free no matter what 'race' they are.

Formally giving California to Mexico is a valid idea that is worth consideration. After all, there is nothing to lose. California has already more or less declared itself as independent of U.S. law. So YES, let Mexico have it. Just one less thing the rest of us have to deal with.
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Re: Los Angeles painting city streets white in bid to combat climate change
« Reply #23 on: April 11, 2018, 06:08:55 pm »
$40,000/mile?  Can't believe they don't rip all the asphalt roads out and replace them with concrete.  Bunch of pikers.
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« Reply #24 on: April 11, 2018, 06:17:05 pm »
Quote from: RoosGirl on April 11, 2018, 06:08:55 pm
$40,000/mile?  Can't believe they don't rip all the asphalt roads out and replace them with concrete.  Bunch of pikers.
But, Roos, that would make sense. Concrete is pretty darned durable compared to mere asphalt, too.
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