Obituaries for 2018

[jpsb]

Maybe she went out ala Michael Hutchence or David Carradine.

You have a beautiful (naughty) mind.

[Lando Lincoln]

I have a hard time imagining not standing back up as the CO2 poison builds up first.

Anchor the ligature on one side of the door and flip it to the top.  Hang on the opposite side.  She probably had some substantial doors.

[driftdiver]

I wonder if it's as bad as having mom commit suicide when you are 13?

@Sanguine
Suicide is a tragic and selfish act.   However, in the grasp of severe depression people do not think rationally.  She needed help and did not get it.   

[mystery-ak]

I wonder if it's as bad as having mom commit suicide when you are 13?

She left a note and her staff found her this morning...I hope her daughter wasn't there..

[Frank Cannon]

I wonder if it's as bad as having mom commit suicide when you are 13?

That is the one element of the story that bugs me. At least make it look like a plausible accident of you are going to pull this shit. Hanging off a doorknob is a pretty big eff you.

[RoosGirl]

You have a beautiful (naughty) mind.

LOL  If i had a naughty mind I would try the method myself.  I just have a mind for totally useless details.

[Sanguine]

@Sanguine
Suicide is a tragic and selfish act.   However, in the grasp of severe depression people do not think rationally.  She needed help and did not get it.   

You're right, and that's why the education/thinking needs to occur before it gets to that point.  She was in pain, but she will cause great, possibly greater pain to her daughter.

[thackney]

Depression can be quite awful

Absolutely. 

But I lack the understanding of someone that has that level of physical control over their own body, that results in suicide.

[mystery-ak]

Live stream it.

It will be pay for view...consider it a fundraiser

[Frank Cannon]

Anchor the ligature on one side of the door and flip it to the top.  Hang on the opposite side.  She probably had some substantial doors.

You sound like you've tried it.......or made a murder look like a suicide. Are you Mr Wolf and "Solve Problems"?

[thackney]

Anchor the ligature on one side of the door and flip it to the top.  Hang on the opposite side.  She probably had some substantial doors.

Thank you.  I can see that.

[Frank Cannon]

It will be pay for view...consider it a fundraiser

This will be one of the items you and Roos will be competing for.....

[Lando Lincoln]

You sound like you've tried it.......or made a murder look like a suicide. Are you Mr Wolf and "Solve Problems"?

"Skills"

[RoosGirl]

This will be one of the items you and Roos will be competing for.....

I don't do bows, she can have those.

[mystery-ak]

She used a scarf..

Her husband was at the apartment when his wife took her own life according to police.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5808813/Kate-Spade-dead-Park-Avenue-apartment-apparent-suicide.html

[WingNot]

It will be pay for view...consider it a fundraiser

Take that JRob!     

[mystery-ak]

This will be one of the items you and Roos will be competing for.....

put those on ebay..they hurt my feet already

[Lando Lincoln]

Take that JRob!   

Fifty bucks will buy a lot of Jello.  I have that covered.

[dfwgator]

She used a scarf..
 

Talk about 'going out in style.'

[WingNot]

She used a scarf..


Quote:
Her husband was at the apartment when his wife took her own life according to police.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5808813/Kate-Spade-dead-Park-Avenue-apartment-apparent-suicide.html

I remember talking to my Father just after his best friend blew his head off with a 12 gauge.  I asked him why he did it while sitting on the bed in the Master Bedroom of his home.  Dad said:  "I think he was sending a message"

[Restored]

Anyone see Trump in the vicinity?

[driftdiver]

Absolutely. 

But I lack the understanding of someone that has that level of physical control over their own body, that results in suicide.

@thackney
People close to me suffer from severe depression.   It doesn't surprise me in the slightest.   I'm not talking the kind of depression resulting from your hockey team losing a game either.  For these people the pain of continuing is less then that rope.   I'm sure some people do stop just as some people who use a long rope probably change their mind after stepping off.

[mountaineer]

Kate Spade, American Designer, Dead at 55
By JONAH ENGEL BROMWICH and VANESSA FRIEDMAN

The American designer Kate Spade was found dead on Tuesday, according to police officials.

The police said that Ms. Spade, 55, was discovered unresponsive at a Park Avenue apartment, where she had hanged herself. She had left a note, but the official did not comment on what it said. She was pronounced dead at the scene at 10:26 a.m.

A housekeeper found Ms. Spade in her bedroom hanging from a red scarf tied to a doorknob, the police said. She was unconscious and the housekeeper called 911. Ms. Spade’s husband was at the scene. A police spokesman did not know the whereabouts of Ms. Spade’s daughter. Born Kate Brosnahan in Kansas City, Mo., in December 1962, Ms. Spade was one of the first of a powerful wave of female American contemporary designers in the 1990s.  ... More

[Emjay]

She made some pretty hot stuff. I didn't mind my wife blowing money on it. I wonder if I can cash in on fashionista grief and get some of those heels and bags up on Ebay before the wife gets home?

You're all heart, Frank.

[edpc]

She is the SIL of David Spade and the aunt of actress Rachel Brosnahan.

[WingNot]

You're all heart, Frank.

He's a very caring and giving individual.  I mean his selfless act, to help fans of the dearly departed get over their grief, albeit in his own way is the stuff of legends.

[thackney]

She used a scarf..
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5808813/Kate-Spade-dead-Park-Avenue-apartment-apparent-suicide.html

I didn't see that in the linked article.  Where did you see that?  It would likely eliminate the over the door method unless it was a few tied together.

Sorry if I am creeping out any by focusing on mechanical details...

[mystery-ak]

I didn't see that in the linked article.  Where did you see that?  It would likely eliminate the over the door method unless it was a few tied together.

Sorry if I am creeping out any by focusing on mechanical details...

I know I looked for it to..it is Drudge's headline

[Mod1]

Merged Kate Spade thread into Obituaries

[Frank Cannon]

Merged Kate Spade thread into Obituaries

If this important story is jammed into the Obit section, I'm going to demand all John McCain is dead stories sent here too.

[jmyrlefuller]

Depression can be quite awful

Who said it was depression?

Most suicides are related to chronic pain, not depression. If she had a 13-year-old daughter, she had to have known that killing herself would've caused even more problems, which should have stopped her.

Either that, or some unsavory characters were about to catch up with her.

[edpc]

If this important story is jammed into the Obit section, I'm going to demand all John McCain is dead stories sent here too.

John McCain and Timothy Leary are outside looking in.

[WingNot]

If this important story is jammed into the Obit section, I'm going to demand all John McCain is dead stories sent here too.

You are all heart Frank!

[RoosGirl]

If this important story is jammed into the Obit section, I'm going to demand all John McCain is dead stories sent here too.

Ugh, agreed.  This was a bad move.

[mystery-ak]

Yeah I had to look for it too...

[WingNot]

John McCain and Timothy Leary are outside looking in.

Will he fly his astral plane?

[mystery-ak]

name change

[WingNot]

name change

You'll break the feed!.  Proll a good thing!   

[edpc]

name change

Obituarie?  Tres chic!

[mystery-ak]

You'll break the feed!.  Proll a good thing!   

It got broke when it was move to Obits

[WingNot]

It got broke when it was move to Obits

Dock that Mod a days pay for napping on the job!

[EasyAce]

Who said it was depression?

Most suicides are related to chronic pain, not depression. If she had a 13-year-old daughter, she had to have known that killing herself would've caused even more problems, which should have stopped her.

Either that, or some unsavory characters were about to catch up with her.

The New York Daily News story cited an unidentified source as saying she had "problems at home"; the paper also said she left a note for her daughter saying,
"It's not your fault."

[Machiavelli]

Sci-fi actor William Phipps, Disney's Prince Charming in 'Cinderella,' dead at 96

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ny-ent-phipps-obit-20180603-story.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WM3PX_GiYHo
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"Welcome to California!"

[thackney]

Most suicides are related to chronic pain, not depression.

Do you have anything to support that claim?

[jmyrlefuller]

Do you have anything to support that claim?

Mostly anecdotes, especially among high-profile or famous people. Three off the top of my head that fit the chronic pain narrative are Dick Trickle, Hunter S. Thompson and Ray Combs. Then there was the case of Don Lapre who fits the "avoid those going after you" narrative (in Lapre's case, the feds, since he was being investigated for fraud).

Depression alone, from the cases I've seen, is generally pretty rare as an impetus for suicide, except in teenagers. Not that it doesn't happen (see: Sylvia Plath, Freddie Prinze Sr.) but that it isn't a leading cause and we shouldn't assume it as such.

[catfish1957]

Kate Spade died as the result of suicide

Wife was shocked I never heard of this lady.

[Frank Cannon]

Ugh, agreed.  This was a bad move.

Tell me about it. We finally generated a high post thread that didn't involve people fighting with each other and the Mod pours cold water all over it.

[Cyber Liberty]

Mostly anecdotes, especially among high-profile or famous people. Three off the top of my head that fit the chronic pain narrative are Dick Trickle, Hunter S. Thompson and Ray Combs. Then there was the case of Don Lapre who fits the "avoid those going after you" narrative (in Lapre's case, the feds, since he was being investigated for fraud).

Depression alone, from the cases I've seen, is generally pretty rare as an impetus for suicide, except in teenagers. Not that it doesn't happen (see: Sylvia Plath, Freddie Prinze Sr.) but that it isn't a leading cause and we shouldn't assume it as such.

Keith Emerson was probably both.  His hands were failing because of the multiple Carpal Tunnel surgeries, and fans were starting to tell him he'd lost it, and to stop playing.  He had both the pain and probably the depression from losing his gift.

[jmyrlefuller]

Keith Emerson was probably both.  His hands were failing because of the multiple Carpal Tunnel surgeries, and fans were starting to tell him he'd lost it, and to stop playing.  He had both the pain and probably the depression from losing his gift.

Indeed, and both probably intertwine with each other.

In Mrs. Spade's case, however, we don't know much, and we may never know.

[Gefn]

I see Kate Spade as Sylvia Plath. Very talented, intelligent and stupid. No man (or woman) is worth suiciding over. Especially if there are minor children.

I wish I could have spoken to her or counseled her. I would have saved her. I’ve saved other suicides. I know in my heart of hearts I could have saved her. 

I’m going to use my kate Spade bag today. In her memory. One of the nicest birthday presents I ever received.