Trump: 'Nobody could have done what I’ve done for Puerto Rico with so little appreciation'

[Emjay]

There are very few Trump supporters on the forum and I would only call maybe one or two crazy.

We do not need balance if it only amounts to constant nit picking.

There is very little honest criticism of Trump from the NTers.  Just blasting him for his personality and tweets.

[musiclady]

There are very few Trump supporters on the forum and I would only call maybe one or two crazy.

We do not need balance if it only amounts to constant nit picking.

There is very little honest criticism of Trump from the NTers.  Just blasting him for his personality and tweets.

Are you actually saying that pointing out the the fact that his behavior is childish, narcissistic and un Presidential is dishonest?

These are legitimate, truthful criticisms, @Emjay

Calling them dishonest just because you want them to stop is, well....... dishonest......

[RoosGirl]

There are very few Trump supporters on the forum and I would only call maybe one or two crazy.

We do not need balance if it only amounts to constant nit picking.

There is very little honest criticism of Trump from the NTers.  Just blasting him for his personality and tweets.

I do not understand how blasting members here based on personality and comments (in place of tweets) is just fine, but commenting on an ongoing personality (disorder, imo) and damaging (to the office) tweets is supposed to be off limits.

[Silver Pines]

I see that you get off on making over the top accusations about Trump.  It's so dang easy.

How about trying a more balanced take on the general accomplishments of the Trump administration.

@Emjay

Or, how about remembering what you said just the other day---adult opinions, remember? 

We all have them, and they don't always dovetail.  We're better off when we accept that.

[XenaLee]

No it isn't. He's blustery, petty, vindictive, and juvenile.
Battleship mouth and a rowboat ass.

Ehh..... I would have to revise that to a kayak ass.  But that's just me.   ^-^

[Silver Pines]

And I used to think the cult of personality surrounding Obama was bad….


Great song BTW.


www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xxgRUyzgs0

@Neverdul

That's a good one.

[libertybele]

I do not understand how blasting members here based on personality and comments (in place of tweets) is overlooked, but commenting on an ongoing personality (disorder, imo) and damaging (to the office) tweets is supposed to be off limits.

I hear what you are saying, but I don't believe Trump would have tweeted what he did had the lazy, despicable, incompetent lazy mayor of San Juan not lied and tried to lay blame.  Trump isn't my favorite person  --- but human nature is to defend one's self when being wrongfully accused. I find it disheartening that the focus seems to be on the comment that was narcissistic in nature rather than on the false accusations coming from a very liberal mayor.

[RoosGirl]

I hear what you are saying, but I don't believe Trump would have tweeted what he did had the lazy, despicable, incompetent lazy mayor of San Juan not lied and tried to lay blame.  Trump isn't my favorite person  --- but human nature is to defend one's self when being wrongfully accused. I find it disheartening that the focus seems to be on the comment that was narcissistic in nature rather than on the false accusations coming from a very liberal mayor.

Really?  You understood that?  Cause I just read it again and see I screwed it up.  But I shall go fix it so it reads more like what I meant. :)

[XenaLee]

I hear what you are saying, but I don't believe Trump would have tweeted what he did had the lazy, despicable, incompetent lazy mayor of San Juan not lied and tried to lay blame.  Trump isn't my favorite person  --- but human nature is to defend one's self when being wrongfully accused. I find it disheartening that the focus seems to be on the comment that was narcissistic in nature rather than on the false accusations coming from a very liberal mayor.

There is always a better way to say it.... and a better way to word the comments Trump makes that many people on the right are taking issue with.  That's the problem..... how he puts things.  It is, in fact, embarrassing.  Plus, he gives the left constant fodder for their ridicule campaign.  That also gets frustrating for those of us on the right that want a president to act ... um...  presidential.  That he is exposing the radical left is a good thing.  He just needs to do it with more finesse, more intelligence, and yes.... with more class.

[musiclady]

I hear what you are saying, but I don't believe Trump would have tweeted what he did had the lazy, despicable, incompetent lazy mayor of San Juan not lied and tried to lay blame.  Trump isn't my favorite person  --- but human nature is to defend one's self when being wrongfully accused. I find it disheartening that the focus seems to be on the comment that was narcissistic in nature rather than on the false accusations coming from a very liberal mayor.

That's because that's the topic of the thread............ Trump's defense.

As a leader, he's not supposed to give in to "human nature" and whine about every slight.

We ALL attacked Obama for being a thin skinned baby for his defensiveness, and now we're supposed to defend Trump for doing the same thing, only worse??

Your argument doesn't make sense.

[libertybele]

There is always a better way to say it.... and a better way to word the comments Trump makes that many people on the right are taking issue with.  That's the problem..... how he puts things.  It is, in fact, embarrassing.  Plus, he gives the left constant fodder for their ridicule campaign.  That also gets frustrating for those of us on the right that want a president to act ... um...  presidential.  That he is exposing the radical left is a good thing.  He just needs to do it with more finesse, more intelligence, and yes.... with more class.

Agreed ... and very well stated. 

[libertybele]

That's because that's the topic of the thread............ Trump's defense.

As a leader, he's not supposed to give in to "human nature" and whine about every slight.

We ALL attacked Obama for being a thin skinned baby for his defensiveness, and now we're supposed to defend Trump for doing the same thing, only worse??

Your argument doesn't make sense.

Of course he could have made his point in a different way without being narcissistic.  He could have very well tweeted ... lots of hard work going on in Puerto Rico and much is being accomplished ... and attached the video.  He is being accused by an ungrateful mayor ... he stood up for himself, for FEMA, for the first responders, volunteers, etc. I don't see Trump as the whiner here ... the mayor of San Juan is the whiner ... Trump was merely responding to her accusations.  If the mayor of San Juan expects the island to be turned into a magical kingdom overnight, she needs to take a permanent vacation to Disneyland.

[Emjay]

That's because that's the topic of the thread............ Trump's defense.

As a leader, he's not supposed to give in to "human nature" and whine about every slight.

We ALL attacked Obama for being a thin skinned baby for his defensiveness, and now we're supposed to defend Trump for doing the same thing, only worse??

Your argument doesn't make sense.

I assume you mean all on the forum but the press certainly did not attack Obama and they don't attack Hillary.

My point is that continuing to obsess on the negative aspects of Trump's personality is pointless

We all knew that Trump had these personality flaws.  He cannot help tweeting.  I wish he could.

But that is not ALL or even the major part of Trump.  He has done well on many, many issues.

So, yeah, I get tired of the tweeting and even more tired when that's all anybody around here can find to gripe about.

[musiclady]

I assume you mean all on the forum but the press certainly did not attack Obama and they don't attack Hillary.

My point is that continuing to obsess on the negative aspects of Trump's personality is pointless

We all knew that Trump had these personality flaws.  He cannot help tweeting.  I wish he could.

But that is not ALL or even the major part of Trump.  He has done well on many, many issues.

So, yeah, I get tired of the tweeting and even more tired when that's all anybody around here can find to gripe about.

Don't worry.  That isn't all there is to gripe about.

Perhaps you should stay off of threads about Trump's tweets if overt criticism of them bothers you.

No sense getting aggravated unnecessarily, is there?

Life is short.  Live it well!   

[roamer_1]

Ehh..... I would have to revise that to a kayak ass.  But that's just me.   ^-^

What is sad to me is that it is not recognized as such. Someone here recently called such 'Alpha Male' behavior.

 

[musiclady]

Of course he could have made his point in a different way without being narcissistic.  He could have very well tweeted ... lots of hard work going on in Puerto Rico and much is being accomplished ... and attached the video.  He is being accused by an ungrateful mayor ... he stood up for himself, for FEMA, for the first responders, volunteers, etc. I don't see Trump as the whiner here ... the mayor of San Juan is the whiner ... Trump was merely responding to her accusations.  If the mayor of San Juan expects the island to be turned into a magical kingdom overnight, she needs to take a permanent vacation to Disneyland.

Well, we'll have to agree to disagree.

Trump IS whining in response to her whining.  It's not what adults do.

But it IS what liberals do.

Voters got their wish.  They bypassed good conservative adult candidates to elect "our own Obama."

Some of us didn't want that, and still don't......

[Emjay]

Well, we'll have to agree to disagree.

Trump IS whining in response to her whining.  It's not what adults do.

But it IS what liberals do.

Voters got their wish.  They bypassed good conservative adult candidates to elect "our own Obama."

Some of us didn't want that, and still don't......

Yeah, well.  No, it's not what I wanted either.

But I chose to give Trump a chance because I was soooo grateful that he beat Hillary.

And I found a couple of things happened.

One, Trump's policies are conservative.  I like his appointments and much of what he's done and what he's tried to do.

Two, he still has the personality flaws that turned us off during the nomination process.

He will continue to have those personality flaws because that's who he is.

But what is the point of Hyperventilating about his tweets every single day.

Why can't we take our eyes off that for maybe a second and look at what he's doing.  He did do a good job in Puerto Rico but all we can talk about is his childish response to a hateful mayor.

That is my adult opinion.

[corbe]

There are very few Trump supporters on the forum and I would only call maybe one or two crazy.

We do not need balance if it only amounts to constant nit picking.

There is very little honest criticism of Trump from the NTers.  Just blasting him for his personality and tweets.

   Balance is a very good thing and makes this Forum the Jewel that it is (Thanks Myst and Mods), the majority of my criticism is in the form of playful humour because I know how sensitive the Trumpers can be about some things.

   PS: @Emjay my internet posting history in various political forums has proven I have been criticizing US Presidents since GHWB, I always felt it was the American thing to do. 

[libertybele]

Well, we'll have to agree to disagree.

Trump IS whining in response to her whining.  It's not what adults do.

But it IS what liberals do.

Voters got their wish.  They bypassed good conservative adult candidates to elect "our own Obama."

Some of us didn't want that, and still don't......

Fair enough.  On the fact that a good conservative was bypassed; you bet ya.  On that you and I agree 100%.  No, I never wanted Trump.  I didn't approve of his shenanigans throughout his campaign and the mud slinging is still going on from both sides and the MSM is relentless.  I do see a bit of light at the end of the tunnel; more than I thought possible with Trump ... I do see some positives here and there.

[aligncare]

I do not understand how blasting members here based on personality and comments (in place of tweets) is just fine, but commenting on an ongoing personality (disorder, imo) and damaging (to the office) tweets is supposed to be off limits.

Think back on Presidents Clinton and Obama, two terms each. You still want to say that Trump is damaging the office of President?

Don’t choke, here’s your chance to show some perspective.

[RoosGirl]

Think back on Presidents Clinton and Obama, two terms each. You still want to say that Trump is damaging the office of President?

Don’t choke, here’s your chance to show some perspective.

So the sexual misconduct by Clinton damaged the office in the exact same way that Obama damaged the office?  Acting like a petty, vindictive child may not damage the office in the exact same way, but it still does damage it.

[libertybele]

So the sexual misconduct by Clinton damaged the office in the exact same way that Obama damaged the office?  Acting like a petty, vindictive child may not damage the office in the exact same way, but it still does damage it.

Sexual misconduct was one thing, but denying the allegations, lying to the public and permitted to stay in office after impeachment was quite another.  That sent a clear message to the country; the President is above all others and morality and integrity mean nothing.

[Emjay]

Sexual misconduct was one thing, but denying the allegations, lying to the public and permitted to stay in office after impeachment was quite another.  That sent a clear message to the country; the President is above all others and morality and integrity mean nothing.

It wasn't just 'sexual misconduct.'  It was rape and attempted rape.  It was also sexual abuse of a subordinate (and really dumb) employee.

It was inexcusable.  Yet the Senate and much of the country excused it.

But ... foolish tweets.  No, not acceptable.

[Silver Pines]

Don't worry.  That isn't all there is to gripe about.

Perhaps you should stay off of threads about Trump's tweets if overt criticism of them bothers you.

No sense getting aggravated unnecessarily, is there?

Life is short.  Live it well!   

@musiclady

Well said.

[Silver Pines]

What is sad to me is that it is not recognized as such. Someone here recently called such 'Alpha Male' behavior.

 

@roamer_1

True alpha males don't operate from insecurity, which is what Trump does.  They don't flail and they don't lash out at every bruise to their ego.