Ex-Cruz aide: Trump presidency 'is effectively over'

[corbe]

Ex-Cruz aide: Trump presidency 'is effectively over'

 By Joe Concha - 07/28/17 08:16 AM EDT 

Sen. Ted Cruz's former communications director Rick Tyler declared the presidency of Donald Trump "is effectively over" on MSNBC on Friday.

"I think this presidency is effectively over," Tyler told "Morning Joe"  co-host Mika Brzezinski.

"And if you look back to different presidencies, you look at Bill Clinton. He had a rough first two years, very difficult two years. But after Oklahoma City he was able to regain his footing and become presidential until he slipped on a blue dress," Tyler continued.

"But this President cannot change. Nothing about his behavior tells me, since the beginning of this process, that he was going to change. And if you cannot change and you cannot become presidential, and you cannot convince the majority of the American people to enact some legislative agenda that he wants passed, his presidency legislatively is effectively over," he concluded.

Tyler was fired from Cruz's presidential campaign in February 2016 after circulating a fake story about Sen. Marco Rubio, also a presidential candidate. He was hired shortly thereafter by MSNBC as a contributor.

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http://thehill.com/homenews/media/344281-ex-cruz-campaign-manager-trump-presidency-is-effectively-over

[Polly Ticks]

Tyler was fired from Cruz's presidential campaign in February 2016 after circulating a fake story about Sen. Marco Rubio, also a presidential candidate. He was hired shortly thereafter by MSNBC as a contributor.

Ok, that's just funny.


In any case, Trump has done some good things and some really stupid things.  Either way, it's a little early to start writing the obituary only 8 months in.  Where there is life, there is hope.

[Frank Cannon]

Wow. This gutter rat is still being interviewed as some sort of expert.

[bolobaby]

At this point, I sort of want them to find evidence of Russian collusion so Trump can be impeached as soon as humanly possible. The only way to save conservatism at this point is for President Pence to step in before well before midterms.

The Russian thing is a joke, of course, but it's about the only hope we have left of stopping Trump from completely scuttling any last vestige of conservatism in his three ring circus.

[TomSea]

One wouldn't expect anything else but sour grapes,

North Dakota, Oklahoma, Kansas, all known Conservative states, give Trump high approval ratings. Those who BS that Trump is not conservative are just smearing others.  I will go with the map.

Oh, Glenn Beck also was in Cruz's camp; like I really want to hear what Glenn says.


Take that Never Trumpers, and take this too for your falsehoods.


Those states that voted for Trump are liberal, oh right.

[TomSea]

Cruz fires top staffer for promoting false story about Rubio and the Bible
The swift action comes as the Texas senator's rivals are increasingly branding him as a liar.

By ELIZA COLLINS and NOLAN D. MCCASKILL

02/22/2016 03:33 PM EST

Ted Cruz on Monday asked for the resignation of top aide Rick Tyler, who he accused of a “grave error of judgment” for promoting a false story that questioned Marco Rubio’s faith.

The story and accompanying transcript from The Daily Pennsylvanian, a student newspaper, said Rubio had walked by a Cruz staffer on Saturday who was reading a Bible, and told him it didn’t “have many answers in it.”

Tyler, Cruz’s communications director, posted the story on Facebook on Sunday, but later deleted it and apologized after a Cruz staffer said Rubio didn’t make any such comment. But Cruz decided greater action was needed.

Continued: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/breaking-news-cruz-asks-for-national-spokesman-rick-tylers-resignation-219632

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

He's right IMO.

70 year old men don't change. And Trump is ostracizing anyone who might work with him.

How is he wrong?

People in this forum have a hard time with the truth.

[Sanguine]

Wow. This gutter rat is still being interviewed as some sort of expert.

Yes, he was fired from the Cruz campaign, but they introduce him as "Ex-Cruz aide".   Technically correct but very deceptive.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Wow. This gutter rat is still being interviewed as some sort of expert.

Tagging him to Cruz with this statement is not helpful to the Senator. 

[Right_in_Virginia]

He's right IMO.

70 year old men don't change. And Trump is ostracizing anyone who might work with him.

How is he wrong?

People in this forum have a hard time with the truth.

What would you do to bring McCain, Murkowski and Collins into the fold @Weird Tolkienish Figure

Tell us all what the President missed.  Be specific---this is your moment to truly shine.

[Idiot]

At this point, I sort of want them to find evidence of Russian collusion so Trump can be impeached as soon as humanly possible. The only way to save conservatism at this point is for President Pence to step in before well before midterms.

The Russian thing is a joke, of course, but it's about the only hope we have left of stopping Trump from completely scuttling any last vestige of conservatism in his three ring circus.

This is scaring me...but I agree with you........

[Free Vulcan]

Read credible guy there...

The Trump presidency is not over, but he needs to start making some major changes.

[truth_seeker]

Yes, he was fired from the Cruz campaign, but they introduce him as "Ex-Cruz aide".   Technically correct but very deceptive.

Compounded by Politico as the source, posted here as one of a never-ending string, of #nevertrump agenda articles. IOW it fits a well worn pattern.

Meanwhile, Debbie WS' operative may well have jeopardized our national security, while she was arranging the nomination for Hillary, against Bernie.

Health care reform went down in smoke, thanks to an establishment Republican; the type Trump ran against and defeated to get to his position.

Hillary's campaign probably commissioned the Russia story, from the beginning. (the dossier, the Brit, etc.)

Has Trump's presidency been elegant thus far, not really. Has it born results? Yes. Good ones, and more will follow.

President Trump disrupted the cheese, for democrats, establishment Republicans, the media etc. Makes them very, very uncomfortable.

They can be expected, to keep making trouble for him.

 

[XenaLee]

At this point, I sort of want them to find evidence of Russian collusion so Trump can be impeached as soon as humanly possible. The only way to save conservatism at this point is for President Pence to step in before well before midterms.

The Russian thing is a joke, of course, but it's about the only hope we have left of stopping Trump from completely scuttling any last vestige of conservatism in his three ring circus.

That would literally insure that the Democrats regained power of both houses in Congress in 2018.... and would lock in a presidential win for them in 2020.  Nobody but a RINO or a Democrat would want that.  So why do YOU want it?

[Right_in_Virginia]

This is scaring me...but I agree with you........

@mrpotatohead

[aligncare]

Compounded by Politico as the source, posted here as one of a never-ending string, of #nevertrump agenda articles. IOW it fits a well worn pattern.

Meanwhile, Debbie WS' operative may well have jeopardized our national security, while she was arranging the nomination for Hillary, against Bernie.

Health care reform went down in smoke, thanks to an establishment Republican; the type Trump ran against and defeated to get to his position.

Hillary's campaign probably commissioned the Russia story, from the beginning. (the dossier, the Brit, etc.)

Has Trump's presidency been elegant thus far, not really. Has it born results? Yes. Good ones, and more will follow.

President Trump disrupted the cheese, for democrats, establishment Republicans, the media etc. Makes them very, very uncomfortable.

They can be expected, to keep making trouble for him.

I must say, pithy logic and common sense seem to be your strongest suit. Of course, you have many more fine qualities, too. But, I'll leave those for later -- don't want too many splodie heads from the NT contingent -- might leave too big a mess for our ever vigilant moderators to clean up after.

[Idiot]

That would literally insure that the Democrats regained power of both houses in Congress in 2018.... and would lock in a presidential win for them in 2020.  Nobody but a RINO or a Democrat would want that.  So why do YOU want it?

Simple answer.  The man is FRIGGEN NUTS.

[INVAR]

The Russian thing is a joke, of course, but it's about the only hope we have left of stopping Trump from completely scuttling any last vestige of conservatism in his three ring circus.

I'm convinced Destroying all Conservative candidates in the primaries to oppose Hillary was the main purpose of Trump being in the running.  Hildabeast's Stalking Horse.   I think that instead of taking a knee in the final round like he was supposed to, Trump could't let go of the idea of 'winning' and pushed on for the 'win'.

I think that stunned the entirety of D.C. who thought the 'fix' was in.

The secondary payload of Trump in the White House is to purge Conservatism from any and all political relevance in the GOP and ensure the Uniparty forever remains unopposed by limited government and individual liberty idealism.

[bolobaby]

That would literally insure that the Democrats regained power of both houses in Congress in 2018.... and would lock in a presidential win for them in 2020.  Nobody but a RINO or a Democrat would want that.  So why do YOU want it?

Bzzzt.

Trump is ensuring (it *is* "ensuring, btw) that the Democrats will not only take both houses, but the Presidency in the next elections.

The ONLY hope to save conservatism is to put an adult conservative back in charge while there is still time to show America what a proper conservative can accomplish. Period.

It seems that YOU want the death of conservatism by continuing to support this clown and his circus. YOU are the one that is ruining any chance of conservatism ever winning the day. YOU brought us Trump and you want the Trump Train to drive conservatism right over a cliff.

Go away, faux conservative. You've done enough damage already.

[Right_in_Virginia]

.../ The secondary payload of Trump in the White House is to purge Conservatism from any and all political relevance in the GOP and ensure the Uniparty forever remains unopposed by limited government and individual liberty idealism.

Purge what Conservative relevance?  The country was ready for change.  If Conservatives had any relevance, they would have won.   It's really that simple.

Face it, there hasn't been any Conservative relevance since Ronald Reagan.  Perhaps it's time to do something more than whine about it and point fingers???

[XenaLee]

Bzzzt.

Trump is ensuring (it *is* "ensuring, btw) that the Democrats will not only take both houses, but the Presidency in the next elections.

The ONLY hope to save conservatism is to put an adult conservative back in charge while there is still time to show America what a proper conservative can accomplish. Period.

It seems that YOU want the death of conservatism by continuing to support this clown and his circus. YOU are the one that is ruining any chance of conservatism ever winning the day. YOU brought us Trump and you want the Trump Train to drive conservatism right over a cliff.

Go away, faux conservative. You've done enough damage already.

WTF???  LOL!   I had nothing, and I do mean NOTHING, to do with bringing anybody Trump.

Get.... a..... (much needed).... clue.

[Cripplecreek]

He's been a lame duck almost from the beginning and he can't stop shooting himself in the feet.

[INVAR]

Purge what Conservative relevance?  The country was ready for change.  If Conservatives had any relevance, they would have won.   It's really that simple.

Well by all means, enjoy your Socialist/Marxist majority you have accepted and have fun playing in their sandbox . 

Make sure you share your toys with them now, but don't expect them to share with you.  It's how Communism works.


The rest of us have no time for the sandbox.  We have another playground to build.

[Rivergirl]

Perhaps now, after scaramoohie, the honorable men and women in government will stop propping up this low life president.

[Jazzhead]

He's right IMO.

70 year old men don't change. And Trump is ostracizing anyone who might work with him.

How is he wrong?

People in this forum have a hard time with the truth.

I really did think he could change, and could pivot effectively from campaigning to governing.   I thought most of his Cabinet picks were outstanding.    But I've given up hope - he cannot manage effectively,  he's increasingly erratic, he's sowed a culture of chaos,  and he won't do the hard work needed to advance his legislative priorities.  All he can do is tweet.   

We need President Pence, the sooner the better.   

[Wingnut]

Over? Did He say over? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the German's bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no! And it ain't over now for Trump.  Cuz when the going gets tough ...  the going gets tough

[Sanguine]

I really did think he could change, and could pivot effectively from campaigning to governing.   I thought most of his Cabinet picks were outstanding.    But I've given up hope - he cannot manage effectively,  he's increasingly erratic, he's sowed a culture of chaos,  and he won't do the hard work needed to advance his legislative priorities.  All he can do is tweet.   

We need President Pence, the sooner the better.

Yes, it's very sad. I had hoped he could rise to the challenge.  He's got some very good qualities going for him, but he lets the chaos override everything else. 

[Cyber Liberty]

Yes, it's very sad. I had hoped he could rise to the challenge.  He's got some very good qualities going for him, but he lets the chaos override everything else.

There was a constructive reason for the chaos at first, it kept the opposition off balance.  Well, that part worked fine and now he's keeping what are supposed to be his allies off balance.  That's pointless.  This health-care fiasco is a case in point.  No excuse for letting McCain wander off the plantation last night.  McCain said he went "Nay" because Governor Ducey didn't like the bill.  That would have been a great time to call his pal Ducey (a fellow CEO of a company) and explained how the bill was a good one (even if it wasn't).

Trump didn't bother.  He still doesn't know how to play the game, and he's not learning.  Oh sure, I can hear the words now, "He's changing the rules of the rigged game!"  When you sit down at the Monopoly board, you know the rules, there's no changing them after the game starts.

[truth_seeker]

Purge what Conservative relevance?  The country was ready for change.  If Conservatives had any relevance, they would have won.   It's really that simple.

Face it, there hasn't been any Conservative relevance since Ronald Reagan.  Perhaps it's time to do something more than whine about it and point fingers???

Actually do something? Make convincing efforts? Or just issue forth repetitive, lengthy essays?

Conservatives as a class, have lost the willingness to learn effective arguments and to make them. They actually believe that threats to not vote, or to vote 3rd party get anything worthwhile, accomplished in terms of getting conservative RESULTS.

[INVAR]

Conservatives as a class, have lost the willingness to learn effective arguments and to make them. They actually believe that threats to not vote, or to vote 3rd party get anything worthwhile, accomplished in terms of getting conservative RESULTS.

What it means is that Conservatives who actually have a brain to think with have figured out that the party they called 'home' is irrevocably corrupt and broken and there is no 'fixing' it given the rules changes to ensure the Oligarchy remains untouched by any attempt at grassroots replacement that is not groomed through them.

So, as the Colonies figured out back in 1775-76, their 'government' was a tyranny not worth working with anymore - and they went independent to effect change.

Which is the model Principled Conservatives have decided to follow.

Time to start over from scratch.

[bolobaby]

WTF???  LOL!   I had nothing, and I do mean NOTHING, to do with bringing anybody Trump.

Get.... a..... (much needed).... clue.

Who did you vote for?

[XenaLee]

Who did you vote for?

I voted for the Constitution Party, Castle.  And I would do it again if the election were held today. 

[aligncare]

Election day arrives after months - years even, in which a candidate's popularity, which eventually translates to votes, is sampled. So we have a pretty good idea where the candidates stand. Of course some candidates can rise and some can sputter and hit a brick wall. But, on the whole we have a pretty good idea of where they stand -- popularity wise.

But if on Election morning my candidate has gained 0 traction, polling in low single digits, there'd be no way I could have in good conscience voted for that candidate. Not with Hillary in the room. No way.

But, I assume you made your statement as you wished. Surprised to hear you'd make it again the same way.

Votes are wonderful things. Personally, I could never have done that in the 2016 election.

[Wingnut]

I must say, pithy logic and common sense seem to be your strongest suit. Of course, you have many more fine qualities, too. But, I'll leave those for later -- don't want too many splodie heads from the NT contingent -- might leave too big a mess for our ever vigilant moderators to clean up after.

It is a shame some things never last anymore.

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,233998.msg1140360.html#msg1140360

[Cyber Liberty]

It is a shame some things never last anymore.

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,233998.msg1140360.html#msg1140360

 

[Oceander]

This is rather a little premature.  Trump hasn't yet done anything so catastrophic that he can't recover from it.  There are 3-1/2 years left, so there's time for a turn around. 

It ain't over til it's over.  The fat lady may be testing her pipes, but she ain't singing yet. 

[Idiot]

It is a shame some things never last anymore.

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,233998.msg1140360.html#msg1140360

 

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

This is rather a little premature.  Trump hasn't yet done anything so catastrophic that he can't recover from it.  There are 3-1/2 years left, so there's time for a turn around. 

It ain't over til it's over.  The fat lady may be testing her pipes, but she ain't singing yet.

Unless Trump changes it's over.

And he won't change, in all likelihood.

Therefor it's over.

[Cripplecreek]

Unless Trump changes it's over.

And he won't change, in all likelihood.

Therefor it's over.

Nixon was far more popular than Trump and not constantly attacking his own party.

Trump will eject before the end of his first term.

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

Nixon was far more popular than Trump and not constantly attacking his own party.

Trump will eject before the end of his first term.

Yeah, and I don't think he'll be pardoned either. I think it will be a riches to rags situation for the whole Trump clan.

[Cyber Liberty]

Yeah, and I don't think he'll be pardoned either. I think it will be a riches to rags situation for the whole Trump clan.

That wouldn't be all bad.  Melania can come live in the treehouse in my back yard.

[bolobaby]

I voted for the Constitution Party, Castle.  And I would do it again if the election were held today. 

Well, who the heck was that obnoxious white-cat-avatar Trumpette?

[Axeslinger]

What would you do to bring McCain, Murkowski and Collins into the fold @Weird Tolkienish Figure

Tell us all what the President missed.  Be specific---this is your moment to truly shine.

@Right_in_Virginia @Weird Tolkienish Figure

That's an easy one.  The president spends time in those states giving speech after speech after speech presenting a coherent argument for at the ACA must be repealed.  You state again and again and again that "your senators promised to repeal it". You cause those three drooling buffoons to catch unbearable heat from their constituents.  It's how it is done.

Of course the problem with this scenario in this particular instance is that our illustrious president cannot string two coherent sentences together, let alone make a coherent argument.

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

Well, who the heck was that obnoxious white-cat-avatar Trumpette?

She still posts here, she posted the other day.

[Axeslinger]

Well, who the heck was that obnoxious white-cat-avatar Trumpette?

Just look elsewhere on this thread friend

[GrouchoTex]

It is a shame some things never last anymore.

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,233998.msg1140360.html#msg1140360

Dayum! @Wingnut

 

[Cyber Liberty]

Well, who the heck was that obnoxious white-cat-avatar Trumpette?

Which obnoxious white-cat-avatar?  Waitaminute...that didn't come out right...

Ooops, @XenaLee 

[bolobaby]

Just look elsewhere on this thread friend

AH! I've had that person on ignore for a while, so even their avatar doesn't show up. Heh.

Apologies, @XenaLee, for conflating you with someone else.

[XenaLee]

AH! I've had that person on ignore for a while, so even their avatar doesn't show up. Heh.

Apologies, @XenaLee, for conflating you with someone else.

No problem   ^-^. 

[XenaLee]

Which obnoxious white-cat-avatar?  Waitaminute...that didn't come out right...

Ooops, @XenaLee 

Careful.  I'm watching you.   You shall not escape my wrath!