Security Footage Shows Robbers Forcing Homeowner To Open His Gun Safe And It Costs Them Their Lives

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The Daily Wire
BY: CHASE STEPHENS
JUNE 27, 2017


Last Wednesday night two criminals broke into a home in the East Bay region of the San Francisco Bay area called Brentwood, hoping to score some easy loot. But when the greedy suspects spotted a gun safe, they decided they wanted what was in it. And that's just what they got.


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Apparently he had one loaded and chambered ready in the safe. When they told him to open his gun safe, he was happy to do it.

[Bigun]

Excellent!

[skeeter]

Nice going, but being CA I expect the State is looking for ways to prosecute this guy.

I hope he's got insurance.

[txradioguy]

Nice going, but being CA I expect the State is looking for ways to prosecute this guy.

I hope he's got insurance.

Yeah with it being California they'll hem him up for having one in ready one and use that to confiscate all his weapons.

[Wingnut]

Nice going, but being CA I expect the State is looking for ways to prosecute this guy.

I hope he's got insurance.

He screwed the pooch when he stepped out his front door guns a blazing.   I can see the list of charges on his arrest warrant as we speak.

[driftdiver]

He screwed the pooch when he stepped out his front door guns a blazing.   I can see the list of charges on his arrest warrant as we speak.

I'd agree he's probably screwed but it does depend on if they were shooting at him.   If he shot them in the back as they ran he's gonna be sorry.

[Wingnut]

I'd agree he's probably screwed but it does depend on if they were shooting at him.   If he shot them in the back as they ran he's gonna be sorry.

Yeah,  but its Brentwood.   

The "unidentified" DOA's  were male Antioch residents in their 30s.

The Ghetto comes to Brentwood!

[Wingnut]

Facebook page of one of the DOA's.

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100009353730303

[txradioguy]

Facebook page of one of the DOA's.

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100009353730303

Looks like E-dub wasn't so untouchable after all. 

[Wingnut]

Looks like E-dub wasn't so untouchable after all. 

 


LOL!

 

[Bigun]

Looks like E-dub wasn't so untouchable after all. 

We have conclusive proof that he was NOT faster than a speeding bullet!

[240B]

He screwed the pooch when he stepped out his front door guns a blazing.   I can see the list of charges on his arrest warrant as we speak.

Yep, I thought about that too. Once they left his domicile, he basically lost all rights to shoot at them unless they continued to pose a threat to life and limb either to himself or anyone else, which is highly unlikely.


If any of the perps is shot in the back, that will be bad news.

[skeeter]

Yep, I thought about that too. Once they left his domicile, he basically lost all rights to shoot at them unless they continued to pose a threat to life and limb either to himself or anyone else, which is highly unlikely.


If any of the perps is shot in the back, that will be bad news.

Homeowners are supposed to have their adrenaline totally in check from the moment the thugs turn their backs to run. A little unreasonable IMO.

[Wingnut]

If any of the perps is shot in the back, that will be bad news.

Waiting for the obligatory family interviews.  The ones that go like: 'They was good boys. Dindunutin that they be shot for. You have to understand, you have to look at it from a point of view that they was raised in the hood. How they gonna get his money?"

[roamer_1]

Apparently he had one loaded and chambered ready in the safe. When they told him to open his gun safe, he was happy to do it.

Point in fact as to why an unloaded weapon is a useless weapon.
And why gun safes are stupid, at least from the aspect of home defense.

[thackney]

Point in fact as to why an unloaded weapon is a useless weapon.
And why gun safes are stupid, at least from the aspect of home defense.

Some are less stupid than others.

[roamer_1]

Some are less stupid than others.

I need one of those in the pickup.

[txradioguy]

Some are less stupid than others.

The wife and I are talking about getting a couple of those for our bedside and at least one for the living room/kitchen area.

[240B]

Point in fact as to why an unloaded weapon is a useless weapon.
And why gun safes are stupid, at least from the aspect of home defense.

More than that. An unloaded weapon is more dangerous than nothing at all.


We were docked in a country that would not allow loaded weapons on the pier. The OOD tried to send patrols out on pier watch with unloaded weapons. That was the first time I have seen soldiers flat out refuse orders. They said either we have rounds, or we have no weapon at all. I'm not going on patrol with an inoperable weapon. The reason is obvious. If something did happen, the terrorists will not know that the weapons are unloaded. And the pier watch would be first to be shot. If you don't have a weapon, you're not really a threat.


The OOD compromised and said they could take mags with them, but they had to be on their belts not in the rifles.


That is why you never 'brandish' a weapon, loaded or unloaded, safety on or off, it doesn't matter. If you are holding a weapon in view, you have to be ready to use it. Because there is no way to know how the other guy is going to react.

[thackney]

I need one of those in the pickup.

I've also considered types like:



http://www.autosafes.net/index.php

[roamer_1]

That is why you never 'brandish' a weapon, loaded or unloaded, safety on or off, it doesn't matter. If you are holding a weapon in view, you have to be ready to use it. Because there is no way to know how the other guy is going to react.

That's right.

[Wingnut]

More than that. An unloaded weapon is more dangerous than nothing at all.


We were docked in a country that would not allow loaded weapons on the pier. The OOD tried to send patrols out on pier watch with unloaded weapons. That was the first time I have seen soldiers flat out refuse orders. They said either we have rounds, or we have no weapon at all. I'm not going on patrol with an inoperable weapon. The reason is obvious. If something did happen, the terrorists will not know that the weapons are unloaded. And the pier watch would be first to be shot. If you don't have a weapon, you're not really a threat.


The OOD compromised and said they could take mags with them, but they had to be on their belts not in the rifles.


That is why you never 'brandish' a weapon, loaded or unloaded, safety on or off, it doesn't matter. If you are holding a weapon in view, you have to be ready to use it. Because there is no way to know how the other guy is going to react.

Reminds me of an old joke: 
Give a (2nd Lt.) or an OOD three anvils locked in a padded cell, and in 10 minutes he'll lose one, break one and get the other one pregnant.

[roamer_1]

I've also considered types like:

I dunno. I kinda like a thumbprint lock for that... (or the like)
I've had an old .357 in the pickup for ages. Mainly to have it handy for dispatching a road-injured deer and such... I can see needing to get at it quick in the dark, so a combo lock is out of the question. As is fumbling for a key that is probably on my main keychain which is likely in my pocket, and hard to dig out in a sitting position...

Not to mention that I can pick about any mechanical lock you'd care to show me, most in under a minute - so 'safe' at that point is fairly subjective.

And, I might add, if I happen to be packing, there are places the gun can't go, and I would like to be unobtrusive as possible with the transfer when it needs to happen.

But thx for the link... I'll look around there.

[thackney]

I dunno. I kinda like a thumbprint lock for that... (or the like)
I've had an old .357 in the pickup for ages. Mainly to have it handy for dispatching a road-injured deer and such... I can see needing to get at it quick in the dark, so a combo lock is out of the question. As is fumbling for a key that is probably on my main keychain which is likely in my pocket, and hard to dig out in a sitting position...

Not to mention that I can pick about any mechanical lock you'd care to show me, most in under a minute - so 'safe' at that point is fairly subjective.

And, I might add, if I happen to be packing, there are places the gun can't go, and I would like to be unobtrusive as possible with the transfer when it needs to happen.

But thx for the link... I'll look around there.

I haven't found what I want, I'm still looking.  Not even sure what I want so the search is going to take awhile.

I'm still leary of the thumbprint always working when I need it.  I like the 4 button combination style of the first, something that can be felt easily in the dark.

I like the conceal of being in the Console armrest.

[roamer_1]

I haven't found what I want, I'm still looking.  Not even sure what I want so the search is going to take awhile.

Yeah, that's right. So far I have relied upon 'disguise' I guess.
My truck looks like such a sh*tbox that no one would even think to bother - Not that it IS a sh*tbox, mind you... Under the hood is impressive, but outwardly, other than the lift and tires, it is not just nondescript, but rather blaring 'sh*tbox!!!' Calico colors and all.

I leave it unlocked and the windows down all the time too, all unconcerned, which adds to the 'why bother'... Nothing to attract them, and so far, it works. But I should probably take better precautions. I'll get hit one of these days.

I'm still leary of the thumbprint always working when I need it. 

Yeah, I get it, but in practice, if functioning, it is the closest thing to the ready access I am used to... And that also isn't taking into account the 30/30 that has been in the seat scabbard for at least twenty years.... How do you lock that up?

I like the 4 button combination style of the first, something that can be felt easily in the dark.

So that is a push-button combination of four in sequence? is that how it works? That's alright... but only 16 possible combinations, right? That's not real good.

I like the conceal of being in the Console armrest.

That's pretty cool. If you have a console... 

[thackney]

So that is a push-button combination of four in sequence? is that how it works? That's alright... but only 16 possible combinations, right? That's not real good.

More combinations as each entry can be one or more buttons pushed simultaneously, up to 6 different entry.  Entry meaning button combination. 

Example
1&4
3
2
1&2&3&4
4
2&3
unlock

Some will lock access after enough false entries. 

[roamer_1]

More combinations as each entry can be one or more buttons pushed simultaneously, up to 6 different entry.  Entry meaning button combination. 

Some will lock access after enough false entries.

Oh, that's way better. BUT, it must then be electronic, and must have a chip and a bios, so what is so different between that and a simple thumb-print reader? Not trying to be combative - an honest question...

[thackney]

Oh, that's way better. BUT, it must then be electronic, and must have a chip and a bios, so what is so different between that and a simple thumb-print reader? Not trying to be combative - an honest question...

My experience with fingerprint readers have had a failure rate much higher than I would accept for accessing my weapon.

[roamer_1]

My experience with fingerprint readers have had a failure rate much higher than I would accept for accessing my weapon.

I dunno that playing a tune on buttons is going to be all that much more reliable - four points of failure instead of one... Ever had the 'M' go out on your keyboard? Jussayin.

[thackney]

I dunno that playing a tune on buttons is going to be all that much more reliable - four points of failure instead of one... Ever had the 'M' go out on your keyboard? Jussayin.

I've got a whole lot of keys on my laptop and one fingerprinter reader.  After a couple years, only the fingerprint reader has failed, and on a frequent basis.

Imagine having mud, oil or blood on your finger when you might want to access your gun?  A cut?

[roamer_1]

I've got a whole lot of keys on my laptop and one fingerprinter reader.  After a couple years, only the fingerprint reader has failed, and on a frequent basis.

Imagine having mud, oil or blood on your finger when you might want to access your gun?  A cut?

Right... all I am saying is none of it is the access I have now (which is wide open)... I just know the time the thing will fail is when I need it not to...

I dunno. That's why it's a touchy thing.

[Smokin Joe]

Right... all I am saying is none of it is the access I have now (which is wide open)... I just know the time the thing will fail is when I need it not to...

I dunno. That's why it's a touchy thing.

Kinda where I'm at, too. Every gadget I ever met has a critical detector in it, that determines how bad you need it to work and performs in inverse proportion to that need.

[roamer_1]

Kinda where I'm at, too. Every gadget I ever met has a critical detector in it, that determines how bad you need it to work and performs in inverse proportion to that need.

... Which is why I stayed with a colt 45 almost all my life... outside of bad ammo, it just has to go bang. still sketchy about this 1911 semi auto thingy... Only other time I ever owned one was the only time I REALLY needed to kill a griz... and it stove-piped. 6 fer shers are worth more than 8 maybes...

[Smokin Joe]

... Which is why I stayed with a colt 45 almost all my life... outside of bad ammo, it just has to go bang. still sketchy about this 1911 semi auto thingy... Only other time I ever owned one was the only time I REALLY needed to kill a griz... and it stove-piped. 6 fer shers are worth more than 8 maybes...

I'm a little of a gadget freak when it comes to guns, can't help it. But my main carry piece is dead on reliable, and the wheel gun I'd pack in the boonies is, too. I enjoy the others, but there are only three I carry, one open, two not.

[roamer_1]

I'm a little of a gadget freak when it comes to guns, can't help it. But my main carry piece is dead on reliable, and the wheel gun I'd pack in the boonies is, too. I enjoy the others, but there are only three I carry, one open, two not.

Other than a matched pair of nickel Glock 9s' in shoulder holsters (I almost kinda won them in a crazy good deal) which I never use, and I have never even shot (though they'd be sweet if I ever own a suit again), I don't have anything but utility.

I am somewhat the opposite of you in that.
But, If I can stomach this 1911 and get to where I like it, I have no doubt I will be going to a S&W MP and Shield... That's where I want to go... They shoot like budda, and they fit my hand. The 1911 is just a practice run before I shell out the money for the big show.

I get it, and I can change... if I have to.

I just have magic with an old Colt. I don't even hardly have to aim. It's been a piece of me for so long, it is just second nature. That's hard to give up.

I'm kinda stuck with it now.... I already cut up my rocker holster and refit it to the Rock Island.

[Bigun]

Other than a matched pair of nickel Glock 9s' in shoulder holsters (I almost kinda won them in a crazy good deal) which I never use, and I have never even shot (though they'd be sweet if I ever own a suit again), I don't have anything but utility.

I am somewhat the opposite of you in that.
But, If I can stomach this 1911 and get to where I like it, I have no doubt I will be going to a S&W MP and Shield... That's where I want to go... They shoot like budda, and they fit my hand. The 1911 is just a practice run before I shell out the money for the big show.

I get it, and I can change... if I have to.

I just have magic with an old Colt. I don't even hardly have to aim. It's been a piece of me for so long, it is just second nature. That's hard to give up.

I'm kinda stuck with it now.... I already cut up my rocker holster and refit it to the Rock Island.

I like the S&W Shield a lot! My daughter has one and I have used it quite a bit but personally concealed carry a Springfield XDS which is 100% reliable with  Federal HST ammo which BTW is the ONLY ammo anyone should be using in a carry gun with a barrel less than 4" long.

My open carry piece is a CZ75B with Speer Gold dots.

[thackney]

I like the S&W Shield a lot! My daughter has one and I have used it quite a bit but personally concealed carry a Springfield XDS which is 100% reliable with  Federal HST ammo which BTW is the ONLY ammo anyone should be using in a carry gun with a barrel less than 4" long.

My open carry piece is a CZ75B with Speer Gold dots.

I like a punt gun for open carry, 2 gauge.

[/sarc]

[roamer_1]

I like the S&W Shield a lot! My daughter has one and I have used it quite a bit but personally concealed carry a Springfield XDS which is 100% reliable with  Federal HST ammo which BTW is the ONLY ammo anyone should be using in a carry gun with a barrel less than 4" long.

Less concerned with the Shield than the full size MP... I like the pair for interchangeability - which I know, is limited and incidental, but that is better than none...

But that full size flat rocks for me... a friggin work of art.

[Bigun]

Less concerned with the Shield than the full size MP... I like the pair for interchangeability - which I know, is limited and incidental, but that is better than none...

But that full size flat rocks for me... a friggin work of art.

Although they have always made fine wheel guns, I never much cared for their semi autos until they came out with that M&P line!  Love those!

[txradioguy]

I'm a little of a gadget freak when it comes to guns, can't help it. But my main carry piece is dead on reliable, and the wheel gun I'd pack in the boonies is, too. I enjoy the others, but there are only three I carry, one open, two not.

I'm trying to decide between my 1911 and my new Sig as to which I'll carry concealed.  I'm leaning towards the 1911 because of the narrower profile.

I've decided that my .38 is going to be my bedside gun.

[Smokin Joe]

I'm trying to decide between my 1911 and my new Sig as to which I'll carry concealed.  I'm leaning towards the 1911 because of the narrower profile.

I've decided that my .38 is going to be my bedside gun.

Not counting the .38 (parka pocket gun for winter), I carry the .45 or the P228, the latter because I like having more rounds in the mag, the former because it is slimmer and packs a wallop. Open carry, it's a Super Blackhawk in a cowboy rig, but that's in the boonies.