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Re: Freedom Caucus balks at Republican leadership's Obamacare replacement
« Reply #200 on: March 10, 2017, 05:17:24 pm »
Quote from: Bigun on March 10, 2017, 05:16:37 pm
Mrs Bigun has been working on me for 49 years now.  Might get it done eventually!

We're "works in progress."   :whistle:
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Re: Freedom Caucus balks at Republican leadership's Obamacare replacement
« Reply #201 on: March 10, 2017, 05:20:17 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on March 10, 2017, 05:16:52 pm
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Why get angry?  Liberalism/Leftism is a mental disorder and a chronic illness.  It's akin to catching the permanent flu.  They can't help it if they talk and act stoopid....lol.
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Re: Freedom Caucus balks at Republican leadership's Obamacare replacement
« Reply #202 on: March 10, 2017, 05:20:26 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on March 10, 2017, 05:16:52 pm
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I don't blame you a bit. But consider the source. A guy that wants more Sharia imported, mocks conservatives and Christians, wants infanticide to be kept legal etc. In short, no one of any worth as a human. Use him for rhetorical target practice, laugh at his expense and help ensure his only redeeming value to the world is serving as an object of scorn.
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Re: Freedom Caucus balks at Republican leadership's Obamacare replacement
« Reply #203 on: March 10, 2017, 05:20:38 pm »
Quote from: XenaLee on March 10, 2017, 05:14:07 pm
No....good fortune or luck has nothing to do with it.  It you work hard to find and get a job with a good company (in my case it was usually large energy corporations), you deserve to reap the rewards of being employed by that company.  I took classes on my own to prepare for getting those jobs at my own expense.  People that neither take the time OR the effort or expenditure of money it may take to improve their skills have nobody to blame but themselves..... and certainly not due to "bad luck".  That, quite frankly, is bullshit.  Leftist bullshit, in fact.

I agree.  That is leftist.
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Re: Freedom Caucus balks at Republican leadership's Obamacare replacement
« Reply #204 on: March 10, 2017, 05:21:06 pm »
Quote from: XenaLee on March 10, 2017, 05:14:07 pm
No....good fortune or luck has nothing to do with it.  It you work hard to find and get a job with a good company (in my case it was usually large energy corporations), you deserve to reap the rewards of being employed by that company.  I took classes on my own to prepare for getting those jobs at my own expense.  People that neither take the time OR the effort or expenditure of money it may take to improve their skills have nobody to blame but themselves..... and certainly not due to "bad luck".  That, quite frankly, is bullshit.  Leftist bullshit, in fact.

Your life story = My life story.  And leftist tools who claim it was "luck" infuriate me as much as they do you.  We worked our asses off to get the breaks we did, and those id10ts write off our hard work as "luck."  (And then they go off about our "sky God" to whom we give thanks daily.)
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Re: Freedom Caucus balks at Republican leadership's Obamacare replacement
« Reply #205 on: March 10, 2017, 05:22:18 pm »
Quote from: Norm Lenhart on March 10, 2017, 05:20:26 pm

I don't blame you a bit. But consider the source. A guy that wants more Sharia imported, mocks conservatives and Christians, wants infanticide to be kept legal etc. In short, no one of any worth as a human. Use him for rhetorical target practice, laugh at his expense and help ensure his only redeeming value to the world is serving as an object of scorn.

All true about our "friend."  Let's just say a tipping point was reached.
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Re: Freedom Caucus balks at Republican leadership's Obamacare replacement
« Reply #206 on: March 10, 2017, 05:22:46 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on March 10, 2017, 05:17:24 pm
We're "works in progress."   :whistle:

Well there is that...Or the reason mine won't divorce me is, "its too hard to train a new model".
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Re: Freedom Caucus balks at Republican leadership's Obamacare replacement
« Reply #207 on: March 10, 2017, 05:23:18 pm »
Quote from: XenaLee on March 10, 2017, 05:20:17 pm
Why get angry?  Liberalism/Leftism is a mental disorder and a chronic illness.  It's akin to catching the permanent flu.  They can't help it if they talk and act stoopid....lol.

If they had no effect on my I'd agree, but look at all the stupid laws we've been saddled with because of them.
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Re: Freedom Caucus balks at Republican leadership's Obamacare replacement
« Reply #208 on: March 10, 2017, 05:23:32 pm »
Quote from: XenaLee on March 10, 2017, 05:14:07 pm
No....good fortune or luck has nothing to do with it.  It you work hard to find and get a job with a good company (in my case it was usually large energy corporations), you deserve to reap the rewards of being employed by that company.  I took classes on my own to prepare for getting those jobs at my own expense.  People that neither take the time OR the effort or expenditure of money it may take to improve their skills have nobody to blame but themselves..... and certainly not due to "bad luck".  That, quite frankly, is bullshit.  Leftist bullshit, in fact.

Rubbish. Of course you were lucky. You were born white, weren't ya? White privilege for the win!!!

(Of course, that's sarcasm. Just wanted to play the white privilege card for once.  :tongue2: )
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Re: Freedom Caucus balks at Republican leadership's Obamacare replacement
« Reply #209 on: March 10, 2017, 05:24:04 pm »
Quote from: Wingnut on March 10, 2017, 05:22:46 pm
Well there is that...Or the reason mine won't divorce me is, "its too hard to train a new model".

By her a bigger whip. Friggin' amateurs...
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Re: Freedom Caucus balks at Republican leadership's Obamacare replacement
« Reply #210 on: March 10, 2017, 05:24:38 pm »
Quote from: Wingnut on March 10, 2017, 05:22:46 pm
Well there is that...Or the reason mine won't divorce me is, "its too hard to train a new model".

Any port in a storm my friend.  Maybe you were too hard to train, maybe she likes the cut of your wallet.  Whatever keeps her home for you when you get off a hard day at work.  (with a beer in her hand to offer!)
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Re: Freedom Caucus balks at Republican leadership's Obamacare replacement
« Reply #211 on: March 10, 2017, 05:25:13 pm »
Quote from: EC on March 10, 2017, 05:23:32 pm
Rubbish. Of course you were lucky. You were born white, weren't ya? White privilege for the win!!!

(Of course, that's sarcasm. Just wanted to play the white privilege card for once.  :tongue2: )

You have to work on your technique.
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Re: Freedom Caucus balks at Republican leadership's Obamacare replacement
« Reply #212 on: March 10, 2017, 05:27:52 pm »
Quote from: txradioguy on March 10, 2017, 03:50:01 pm
Where and why is it the job of the government to make sure that people have health insurance?

What happened to personal responsibility and taking care of yourself? 

You seem to forget that the Constitution says you have the opportunity for life liberty and the pursuit of happiness...no where in there does it say it's guaranteed.

Your life is supposed to be what YOU make of it...good bad succeed or fail it's all dependent upon the individual and the effort they put into it.

Agreed.  And - why is it that since you, or I, or anyone may have reached some measure of "success" we must be compelled to pay for subsidizing the system for others?  Regardless of how the Roberts Court or others view it, the ACA is the quintessential redistribution of wealth vehicle.
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Re: Freedom Caucus balks at Republican leadership's Obamacare replacement
« Reply #213 on: March 10, 2017, 05:27:54 pm »
Quote from: Norm Lenhart on March 10, 2017, 05:24:04 pm
By her a bigger whip. Friggin' amateurs...

HELL no!  Mine is from Southern Arizona, near the Chiricahua Mountains!  She don't need a bigger whip!
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Re: Freedom Caucus balks at Republican leadership's Obamacare replacement
« Reply #214 on: March 10, 2017, 05:29:02 pm »
Quote from: Lando Lincoln on March 10, 2017, 05:27:52 pm
Agreed.  And - why is it that since you, or I, or anyone may have reached some measure of "success" we must be compelled to pay for subsidizing the system for others?  Regardless of how the Roberts Court or others view it, the ACA is the quintessential redistribution of wealth vehicle.
We reached our measure of success through sheer luck.  We didn't build it.
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Re: Freedom Caucus balks at Republican leadership's Obamacare replacement
« Reply #215 on: March 10, 2017, 05:30:11 pm »
Quote from: Bigun on March 10, 2017, 05:27:54 pm
HELL no!  Mine is from Southern Arizona, near the Chiricahua Mountains!  She don't need a bigger whip!

Aw Hell no!  Those folks are tough as nails.

That reminds me, you mentioned how long you're been hitched.  My Mommy's birthday was yesterday, and when I was visiting her and Dad, she mentioned they've been married 70 years this May.  70!
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Re: Freedom Caucus balks at Republican leadership's Obamacare replacement
« Reply #216 on: March 10, 2017, 05:30:21 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on March 10, 2017, 05:21:06 pm
Your life story = My life story.  And leftist tools who claim it was "luck" infuriate me as much as they do you.  We worked our asses off to get the breaks we did, and those id10ts write off our hard work as "luck."  (And then they go off about our "sky God" to whom we give thanks daily.)

They no longer infuriate me.  I got over that mistake years ago....(letting them get to you).  What I enjoy now is shooting down their idiocy with logic and facts, and watching them squirm.  It's point and laugh time when lefties are spewing.  And like I said.... most Americans just bitch-slapped them AND their leftist BS and insanity last November.... good and hard.   :laugh:

They're still reeling and whining about it. 
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Re: Freedom Caucus balks at Republican leadership's Obamacare replacement
« Reply #217 on: March 10, 2017, 05:34:38 pm »
Quote from: XenaLee on March 10, 2017, 05:30:21 pm
They no longer infuriate me.  I got over that mistake years ago....(letting them get to you).  What I enjoy now is shooting down their idiocy with logic and facts, and watching them squirm.  It's point and laugh time when lefties are spewing.  And like I said.... most Americans just bitch-slapped them AND their leftist BS and insanity last November.... good and hard.   :laugh:

They're still reeling and whining about it. 

Good points, and I shall go calm down a bit.  I do find their "Tears of November" delicious, every time I see them parade in the street it's another flavor of victory.
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Re: Freedom Caucus balks at Republican leadership's Obamacare replacement
« Reply #218 on: March 10, 2017, 05:34:58 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on March 10, 2017, 05:30:11 pm
Aw Hell no!  Those folks are tough as nails.

That reminds me, you mentioned how long you're been hitched.  My Mommy's birthday was yesterday, and when I was visiting her and Dad, she mentioned they've been married 70 years this May.  70!

WOW!  Please pass on my most sincere congratulations!  10144
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Re: Freedom Caucus balks at Republican leadership's Obamacare replacement
« Reply #219 on: March 10, 2017, 05:35:06 pm »
Quote from: EC on March 10, 2017, 05:23:32 pm
Rubbish. Of course you were lucky. You were born white, weren't ya? White privilege for the win!!!

(Of course, that's sarcasm. Just wanted to play the white privilege card for once.  :tongue2: )

LOL!  Yeah, thank God things have changed in this country for folks with my heritage.  Half of my ancestors were Irish (considered as the Mexican illegals are now).... and the other half were Cherokee (about as welcome as a group of black gang-bangers at a Charity ball).   Yeah, privileged.  Nothing to inherit from either side except the pride of the knowledge that both groups were hard-working people that helped to make this country great and that didn't take OR need government hand-outs or freebies funded by others.
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Re: Freedom Caucus balks at Republican leadership's Obamacare replacement
« Reply #220 on: March 10, 2017, 05:37:17 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on March 10, 2017, 05:30:11 pm
Aw Hell no!  Those folks are tough as nails.

That reminds me, you mentioned how long you're been hitched.  My Mommy's birthday was yesterday, and when I was visiting her and Dad, she mentioned they've been married 70 years this May.  70!

Truly wonderful - His Grace has shown on them.  Congrats!
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Re: Freedom Caucus balks at Republican leadership's Obamacare replacement
« Reply #221 on: March 10, 2017, 05:40:50 pm »
Quote from: Lando Lincoln on March 10, 2017, 05:37:17 pm
Truly wonderful - His Grace has shown on them.  Congrats!

@Bigun
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Thank you kindly. Mom's 89, Dad's 92.  We've got to plan something for the Anniversary!  We live two blocks away from them (literally 2 minute drive).  This is why I knew 33 years ago I needed to stay in Phoenix.
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Re: Freedom Caucus balks at Republican leadership's Obamacare replacement
« Reply #222 on: March 10, 2017, 05:58:34 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on March 10, 2017, 05:29:02 pm
We reached our measure of success through sheer luck.  We didn't build it.

You miss the point.   Of course you work hard.  But so do many others who don't have the good fortune to work for a large corporation that can afford good health benefits.   The current employer-based system is ARBITRARY in who has access to quality health care, and who doesn't.

Why should the basic question of whether one lives or dies depend on whether one works for a large and generous employer?   

No man is an island, sis. 

It was the government that set the rules that cause such arbitrary differences in outcomes between equally virtuous and hard-working people.  It's the moral imperative of government to try to fix it.     
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Re: Freedom Caucus balks at Republican leadership's Obamacare replacement
« Reply #223 on: March 10, 2017, 06:02:54 pm »
Quote from: Jazzhead on March 10, 2017, 05:58:34 pm

It was the government that set the rules that cause such arbitrary differences in outcomes between equally virtuous and hard-working people.  It's the moral imperative of government to try to fix it.   

With that, I am rendered speechless.
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Re: Freedom Caucus balks at Republican leadership's Obamacare replacement
« Reply #224 on: March 10, 2017, 06:05:51 pm »
Quote from: Jazzhead on March 10, 2017, 05:58:34 pm
You miss the point.   Of course you work hard.  But so do many others who don't have the good fortune to work for a large corporation that can afford good health benefits.   The current employer-based system is ARBITRARY in who has access to quality health care, and who doesn't.
   

You didn't read a GD word @XenaLee  and I have said.  That's the problem with dipshit leftists:  They don't bleeping listen!
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