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Re: Freedom Caucus balks at Republican leadership's Obamacare replacement
« Reply #100 on: March 09, 2017, 03:49:41 pm »
Chest-beating and insults,  from this board's leading font of mythology and ignorance.   

Given the mythology and ignorance you display where the Constitution is concerned you have no room to talk.
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Re: Freedom Caucus balks at Republican leadership's Obamacare replacement
« Reply #101 on: March 09, 2017, 03:51:30 pm »
I have an idea. Instead of accusing members of not being conservative or of not being conservative enough, when that idea comes to mind, bring enlightenment by pointing out exactly why they are off the conservative rails.

The other way is clearly nothing more than flame bait.

@don-o Been there done that.  The standard issue reply to pointing out that what the person is espousing is NOT Conservative as you suggest...is accusations of being a Christian "bigot" or forcing narrow minded Christian "morals" on people.
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Re: Freedom Caucus balks at Republican leadership's Obamacare replacement
« Reply #102 on: March 09, 2017, 03:56:44 pm »
@don-o Been there done that.  The standard issue reply to pointing out that what the person is espousing is NOT Conservative as you suggest...is accusations of being a Christian "bigot" or forcing narrow minded Christian "morals" on people.

Or calling the place that has been gracious enough to allow people with opposing viewpoints to stay, a "dump."  Which you're apparently the pope of, or something.
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Re: Freedom Caucus balks at Republican leadership's Obamacare replacement
« Reply #103 on: March 09, 2017, 03:58:10 pm »
@txradioguy

Here, tx - if you're the pope, how about sliding a couple dispensations my way?
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Re: Freedom Caucus balks at Republican leadership's Obamacare replacement
« Reply #104 on: March 09, 2017, 04:00:46 pm »
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Re: Freedom Caucus balks at Republican leadership's Obamacare replacement
« Reply #105 on: March 09, 2017, 04:03:05 pm »
Given the mythology and ignorance you display where the Constitution is concerned you have no room to talk.

To bad it is lent or I'd tear into Zazzy like corduroy pants into a hemorrhoid.

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Re: Freedom Caucus balks at Republican leadership's Obamacare replacement
« Reply #106 on: March 09, 2017, 04:03:31 pm »
@EC @Cyber Liberty


Well this certainly throws a wrench into the question "IS the Pope Catholic".

Looks like this time he's a Methodist!

Oh and by the way...both of you are absolved of your sins.
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Re: Freedom Caucus balks at Republican leadership's Obamacare replacement
« Reply #107 on: March 09, 2017, 04:06:32 pm »
I have an idea. Instead of accusing members of not being conservative or of not being conservative enough, when that idea comes to mind, bring enlightenment by pointing out exactly why they are off the conservative rails.

The other way is clearly nothing more than flame bait.
Pointing out demonstrated truth isn't flamebait. And it's about time people treated liberals like liberals. Enough with the special snowflake bullshit. When someone is repeatedly spouting verbatim liberal/DNC talking points, they are liberals. Period. If they don't like it, too damn bad. This is a conservative site or it isn't.  Conservatives fight liberals and liberalism.
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Re: Freedom Caucus balks at Republican leadership's Obamacare replacement
« Reply #108 on: March 09, 2017, 04:08:24 pm »
I have an idea. Instead of accusing members of not being conservative or of not being conservative enough, when that idea comes to mind, bring enlightenment by pointing out exactly why they are off the conservative rails.

We have been doing just that. 

And when we have been pointing out Jazzy's Liberal Statist Leftism, he replies with his assertion we are all 'bigots' homophobes, racists and intolerant bullies.  Notwithstanding his calling this board a 'dump' in this very thread.

Would you like the links where Jazzy asserts homosexuality is 'virtuous'; opposing abortion is 'forcing a woman to procreate'; and all the other big government statism he justifies, excuses and insists are 'conservative' positions?

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Re: Freedom Caucus balks at Republican leadership's Obamacare replacement
« Reply #109 on: March 09, 2017, 04:09:05 pm »
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Re: Freedom Caucus balks at Republican leadership's Obamacare replacement
« Reply #110 on: March 09, 2017, 04:17:27 pm »
@txradioguy

Here, tx - if you're the pope, how about sliding a couple dispensations my way?

You people need some Talos in your lives!


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Re: Freedom Caucus balks at Republican leadership's Obamacare replacement
« Reply #111 on: March 09, 2017, 04:20:25 pm »
And who made you pope of this dump?

You diminish yourself.
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Re: Freedom Caucus balks at Republican leadership's Obamacare replacement
« Reply #112 on: March 09, 2017, 04:23:20 pm »
You people need some Talos in your lives!


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Re: Freedom Caucus balks at Republican leadership's Obamacare replacement
« Reply #113 on: March 09, 2017, 04:23:35 pm »
The individual mandate is modest in amount in comparison to the cost of medical insurance.  It's far less "coercive" than most state laws that require drivers to affirmatively maintain insurance. 

Sure it's an incentive - an incentive to be responsible.   Anyone who "can't afford healthcare" is going to pass his medical costs on to you and me.  The ACA's failure isn't the mandate, but the lack of affordable choices in the marketplace.  The AHCA can hopefully fix that - and effectively replace your hated mandate by allowing insurance companies to penalize free riders with higher premiums.

It really gets me that government will let millions of illegal aliens into the country.  Invite them in to get their free insurance, dental, cash and food stamps.  When it comes to struggling Americans we force a mandate that they must buy expensive health care many will not even use.  Medical costs are outrageous even when you have insurance.  I do.  But when I was forced to get insurance on my own because my corporation was given a waver from mandate (under Obama) my family insurance was 1 and 1/2 of my monthly mortgage.  That is outrageous for people who work in manufacturing type jobs. 

You can say it isn't your fault my job pays low wages.  True, maybe.  But for many years politicians have been having an open door for illegal immigration and that has driven wages down for American workers.  If you want a job you will take the lower wage the immigrant is getting.  Means people like myself are making less than we did in the 1990's.  And taxes, local and Federal have gone up.  Food and housing up.  Everything up but your wages. 

I did get stuck a few years ago with a medical bill I had to pay because I didn't have insurance.  I made monthly payments.  It was thousands of dollars and they determined how much a month.  It hurt but I paid it off.  Cost me less than what health insurance would have cost.  So in the end I paid less.  You would have me tack on that mandate fee to the already outrageous medical bill.

If the government made a catastrophic insurance plan with low premium people could choose it would be better.  That way nobody is stuck paying for freeloader.  And keep in mind even with insurance the patient has to pay a good portion of their own medical bills.  Out of pocket maximums.  High deductibles.

Even car insurance has liability only insurance.  Government has to be realistic and understand if you put a mandate for expensive insurance you are forcing people to choose between food and housing or paying a fine for government health insurance.
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Re: Freedom Caucus balks at Republican leadership's Obamacare replacement
« Reply #114 on: March 09, 2017, 04:24:18 pm »
Hey @txradioguy, is it okay to eat corned beef on St. Paddy's day?  It's on a Friday this year.
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Re: Freedom Caucus balks at Republican leadership's Obamacare replacement
« Reply #115 on: March 09, 2017, 04:28:09 pm »
We have been doing just that. 

And when we have been pointing out Jazzy's Liberal Statist Leftism, he replies with his assertion we are all 'bigots' homophobes, racists and intolerant bullies.  Notwithstanding his calling this board a 'dump' in this very thread.

Would you like the links where Jazzy asserts homosexuality is 'virtuous'; opposing abortion is 'forcing a woman to procreate'; and all the other big government statism he justifies, excuses and insists are 'conservative' positions?

Nah. I am back to just occasional looks in here. Y'all fight on.

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Re: Freedom Caucus balks at Republican leadership's Obamacare replacement
« Reply #116 on: March 09, 2017, 04:28:13 pm »
Hey @txradioguy, is it okay to eat corned beef on St. Paddy's day?  It's on a Friday this year.


Yes Lent is suspended for St. Patrick's Day...eat drink and be Irish!
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Re: Freedom Caucus balks at Republican leadership's Obamacare replacement
« Reply #117 on: March 09, 2017, 04:32:04 pm »
Hey @txradioguy, is it okay to eat corned beef on St. Paddy's day?  It's on a Friday this year.

Us crappie crunchers have been granted a special dispensation to chow down on the corned beef delight.

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Re: Freedom Caucus balks at Republican leadership's Obamacare replacement
« Reply #118 on: March 09, 2017, 04:32:23 pm »
Dump?  Did you just call TBR a "dump?"

Nice.

Oh, c'mon,  I was just trying to be humorous.  It's a Rodney Dangerfield line from Caddyshack - possibly the greatest film ever made.   I use the phrase all the time, with a smile.  In context, I was ribbing Txradioguy for acting like he's the pope of what "true" conservatism is.   Conservatism comes in several varieties - and I've always been upfront that I am not a social conservative. 

If folks think I'm insinuating that TBR is a dump,  then I apologize.   I appreciate the opportunity to converse with a lot of smart conservatives,  and the hands-off policy of the mods.   
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Re: Freedom Caucus balks at Republican leadership's Obamacare replacement
« Reply #119 on: March 09, 2017, 04:32:30 pm »
Watch it, Norm. I can now cast the first stone with impunity ....  :tongue2:
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Re: Freedom Caucus balks at Republican leadership's Obamacare replacement
« Reply #120 on: March 09, 2017, 04:36:03 pm »

Yes Lent is suspended for St. Patrick's Day...eat drink and be Irish!

Whoohoo!!!!  And I can finally celebrate having a fellow Methodist crowned the new pope of the TBR dump!  I cannot believe what a wonderful day this is becoming, I see the light of a new day approaching! 

Or is that a train?


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Re: Freedom Caucus balks at Republican leadership's Obamacare replacement
« Reply #121 on: March 09, 2017, 04:44:12 pm »

If folks think I'm insinuating that TBR is a dump,  then I apologize.   I appreciate the opportunity to converse with a lot of smart conservatives,  and the hands-off policy of the mods.   

Well done.  Thanks.
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Re: Freedom Caucus balks at Republican leadership's Obamacare replacement
« Reply #122 on: March 09, 2017, 04:46:46 pm »
Oh, c'mon,  I was just trying to be humorous.  It's a Rodney Dangerfield line from Caddyshack - possibly the greatest film ever made.   I use the phrase all the time, with a smile.  In context, I was ribbing Txradioguy for acting like he's the pope of what "true" conservatism is.   Conservatism comes in several varieties - and I've always been upfront that I am not a social conservative. 

If folks think I'm insinuating that TBR is a dump,  then I apologize.   I appreciate the opportunity to converse with a lot of smart conservatives,  and the hands-off policy of the mods.   


 There's a core group of bleep and pricks here. Learn to use the ignore function because the mods won't do anything about them.


For me, any sort of personal attack that I feel is undeserved gets ignored right away.

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Re: Freedom Caucus balks at Republican leadership's Obamacare replacement
« Reply #123 on: March 09, 2017, 04:48:08 pm »
Oh, c'mon,  I was just trying to be humorous.  It's a Rodney Dangerfield line from Caddyshack - possibly the greatest film ever made.   I use the phrase all the time, with a smile.  In context, I was ribbing Txradioguy for acting like he's the pope of what "true" conservatism is.   Conservatism comes in several varieties - and I've always been upfront that I am not a social conservative. 

If folks think I'm insinuating that TBR is a dump,  then I apologize.   I appreciate the opportunity to converse with a lot of smart conservatives,  and the hands-off policy of the mods.   

Jazz, you didn't insinuate, you outright said it.   I do agree with you that there are a lot of smart conservatives here, and ask you to remember that conversing is a two-way kind of thing.   

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Re: Freedom Caucus balks at Republican leadership's Obamacare replacement
« Reply #124 on: March 09, 2017, 04:48:43 pm »
Oh, c'mon,  I was just trying to be humorous.  It's a Rodney Dangerfield line from Caddyshack - possibly the greatest film ever made.   

If folks think I'm insinuating that TBR is a dump,  then I apologize.   I appreciate the opportunity to converse with a lot of smart conservatives,  and the hands-off policy of the mods.   

What Lando said...thanks.  I hope you don't mind that we had a hearty laugh at your expense.
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