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Who did you catch?  Only federal senators are "at-large".  State senators have districts (thus, my comment on gerrymandering in each of the states I've been in, and Nebraska being unicameral.

We're both correct, then.   :beer:
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Indeed, it is!

There are Senators at both state and federal levels, and I clearly responded about state Senators... (hint, Nebraska isn't unicameral for federal elections).

Gotcha!

LOL...fair enough.
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Melania would not be amused.

Yeah, the word "relieved" comes to mind.
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I'm pretty sure there is enough for all of us. And leftovers.

I dunno about that... I've eaten the Ethyl Burger at the R Place Truck Stop Restaurant in Morris IL. Good eats there...


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I don't know if I deserve it, because I seem to be the one who mucked things up, but:  :beer:
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I don't know if I deserve it, because I seem to be the one who mucked things up, but:  :beer:

As opposed to the other shenanigans on these boards the past few days, this is nothing!
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They are giving credit where credit isn't due.  Neocons don't have anything to do with Trump screw ups.  Not the media either.  Trump is fully responsible for his own troubles.  His hiring and firing. 

But.... but..... but....... he was going to hire the BEST people: BEST people and The Smartest People.  Yeah, the smartest people and the most beautiful people.  Smart and beautiful people whom Trump promised would be the best people.  Absolutely the best.

And, as we were lectured by the Trump Faithful - we needed a successful businessman like Trump to drain the swamp and save us.

Only the best people.
Fart for freedom, fart for liberty and fart proudly.  - Benjamin Franklin

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I don't know if I deserve it, because I seem to be the one who mucked things up, but: :beer:

I'd drink with you any day!  :beer:

« Last Edit: February 15, 2017, 07:50:28 pm by Suppressed »
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I'd drink with you any day!  :beer:

Be careful, he wears lycra.

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But.... but..... but....... he was going to hire the BEST people: BEST people and The Smartest People.  Yeah, the smartest people and the most beautiful people.  Smart and beautiful people whom Trump promised would be the best people.  Absolutely the best.

And, as we were lectured by the Trump Faithful - we needed a successful businessman like Trump to drain the swamp and save us.

Only the best people.

@INVAR @Chosen Daughter

Seen this?
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Be careful, he wears lycra.

That's a Koch brothers' product now, so I'll forgive him.
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That's a Koch brothers' product now, so I'll forgive him.

I should have pinged @Cyber Liberty.  Shouldn't talk about his sartorial habits without pinging him.

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I should have pinged @Cyber Liberty.  Shouldn't talk about his sartorial habits without pinging him.

Where did you find out about the Lycra?  Have you been talking to Mrs. Liberty?
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But.... but..... but....... he was going to hire the BEST people: BEST people and The Smartest People.  Yeah, the smartest people and the most beautiful people.  Smart and beautiful people whom Trump promised would be the best people.  Absolutely the best.

And, as we were lectured by the Trump Faithful - we needed a successful businessman like Trump to drain the swamp and save us.

Only the best people.

So the people who leaked the information (and likely committed felonies in so doing) have no responsibility nor blame in the matter. Even though Flynn most likely did nothing illegal and was forced to resign only because he had created too much political distraction, not for any genuine misconduct that was actionable by Congress or a court. Warped view of morality on display. Objectivity is the first casualty of fanaticism. Fanatical hatred for Trump is an ongoing obscenity.

I'll stop posting now so that the ecstatic orgy of anti-Trump euphoria may continue without inhibition - like a troop of monkeys celebrating. Truly odd way to show loyalty to one's own party. There is no correlate to you people on the far left. They at least understand the dynamics of dominion - i.e., forming and maintaining alliances based on commonality of purpose. Weird.
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I'll stop posting now so that the ecstatic orgy of anti-Trump euphoria may continue without inhibition - like a troop of monkeys celebrating. Truly odd way to show loyalty to one's own party. There is no correlate to you people on the far left. They at least understand the dynamics of dominion - i.e., forming and maintaining alliances based on commonality of purpose. Weird.

The left has always been better at marching in lock-step than the right.  BTW, don't stop posting, I enjoy reading your comments.
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I will NOT comply.
 
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Where did you find out about the Lycra?  Have you been talking to Mrs. Liberty?

LOL.   :nometalk:

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So the people who leaked the information (and likely committed felonies in so doing) have no responsibility nor blame in the matter. Even though Flynn most likely did nothing illegal and was forced to resign only because he had created too much political distraction, not for any genuine misconduct that was actionable by Congress a court. Warped view of morality on display. Objectivity is the first casualty of fanaticism. Fanatical hatred for Trump is an ongoing obscenity.

I'll stop posting now so that the ecstatic orgy of anti-Trump euphoria may continue without inhibition - like a troop of monkeys celebrating. Truly odd way to show loyalty to one's own party. There is no correlate to you people on the far left. They at least understand the dynamics of dominion - i.e., forming and maintaining alliances based on commonality of purpose. Weird.

I enjoy your posts too.  As for those that post such garbage, ignore them.  They aren't to be taken seriously and few do.

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I enjoy your posts too.  As for those that post such garbage, ignore them.  They aren't to be taken seriously and few do.

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So the people who leaked the information (and likely committed felonies in so doing) have no responsibility nor blame in the matter. Even though Flynn most likely did nothing illegal and was forced to resign only because he had created too much political distraction, not for any genuine misconduct that was actionable by Congress a court. Warped view of morality on display. Objectivity is the first casualty of fanaticism. Fanatical hatred for Trump is an ongoing obscenity.

I'll stop posting now so that the ecstatic orgy of anti-Trump euphoria may continue without inhibition - like a troop of monkeys celebrating. Truly odd way to show loyalty to one's own party. There is no correlate to you people on the far left. They at least understand the dynamics of dominion - i.e., forming and maintaining alliances based on commonality of purpose. Weird.

By all means, don't stop now...you'll disappoint the "troop of monkeys" on TBR.  The unwashed masses desperately need your wisdom, guidance, and gentle humor.

"ecstatic orgy of anti-Trump euphoria"? Hardly. Trump's done some good things so far. His penchant for engaging in personal, narcissistic twitter wars is sucking energy away from his administration.
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So the people who leaked the information (and likely committed felonies in so doing) have no responsibility nor blame in the matter. Even though Flynn most likely did nothing illegal and was forced to resign only because he had created too much political distraction, not for any genuine misconduct that was actionable by Congress a court. Warped view of morality on display. Objectivity is the first casualty of fanaticism. Fanatical hatred for Trump is an ongoing obscenity.

So too is fanatical devotion for Trump, killing any objectivity in their evaluation of current events.

Which explains your wholesale ignorance of the irony I posted in terms of Trump's promise of only appointing and hiring 'The Best People". 

Because The Best People will of course resign under pressure and have scandals stuck to them, whether guilty or just a victim of the appearance of evil pushed by the media.

I'll stop posting now so that the ecstatic orgy of anti-Trump euphoria may continue without inhibition - like a troop of monkeys celebrating.

This 'monkey' isn't "celebrating" the fact that some of us recognize this issue is totally self-inflicted by Trump himself.  The fact you have to slander us all as 'monkeys' because we are not genuflecting your prince is very revealing.

Truly odd way to show loyalty to one's own party.

That is where you err - for the majority here are loyal to principles and foundational precepts - NOT party or a cult of personality.

But that explains the difference between you and I.

There is no correlate to you people on the far left. They at least understand the dynamics of dominion - i.e., forming and maintaining alliances based on commonality of purpose. Weird.

Conservative principles have no commonality of purpose with any 'ism'.  The dynamics of dominion are vastly different from those beholden to men and their institutions, and those beholden to principles.
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If Trump allows this to neuter him, then he isn't the man his supporters said he was.

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If Trump allows this to neuter him, then he isn't the man his supporters said he was.

You're exactly right! 
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If Trump allows this to neuter him, then he isn't the man his supporters said he was.

Yup.

We went from "He fights!" to endless whining about how unfairly he's being treated.