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So too is fanatical devotion for Trump, killing any objectivity in their evaluation of current events.Which explains your wholesale ignorance of the irony I posted in terms of Trump's promise of only appointing and hiring 'The Best People". Because The Best People will of course resign under pressure and have scandals stuck to them, whether guilty or just a victim of the appearance of evil pushed by the media.This 'monkey' isn't "celebrating" the fact that some of us recognize this issue is totally self-inflicted by Trump himself. The fact you have to slander us all as 'monkeys' because we are not genuflecting your prince is very revealing.That is where you err - for the majority here are loyal to principles and foundational precepts - NOT party or a cult of personality.But that explains the difference between you and I.Conservative principles have no commonality of purpose with any 'ism'. The dynamics of dominion are vastly different from those beholden to men and their institutions, and those beholden to principles.
@INVAR Very well put. Thank you.
So the people who leaked the information (and likely committed felonies in so doing) have no responsibility nor blame in the matter. Even though Flynn most likely did nothing illegal and was forced to resign only because he had created too much political distraction, not for any genuine misconduct that was actionable by Congress a court. Warped view of morality on display. Objectivity is the first casualty of fanaticism. Fanatical hatred for Trump is an ongoing obscenity. I'll stop posting now so that the ecstatic orgy of anti-Trump euphoria may continue without inhibition - like a troop of monkeys celebrating. Truly odd way to show loyalty to one's own party. There is no correlate to you people on the far left. They at least understand the dynamics of dominion - i.e., forming and maintaining alliances based on commonality of purpose. Weird.
Yup let the anti-American Trump haters celebrate.
Hopefully any investigation will cover what methods were used, authorized by what authority, and released to media or others by who and by what authority.Because there seem to be some very guilty parties. They seem to be people with security clearances, sworn to confidentiality, not spreading stuff of partisan basis, to media and others.
You are assuming the objective of the investigation would be to determine the facts letting the chips fall where they may. In my decades of watching these little dramas play out that has never been the case.
The entire premise of the article is nonsense.
Granted @jpsb there are a lot of anti-American Trump haters out there, more importantly, there are a significant amount of pro-American Trump haters also and they are citizens that VOTE. I don't hate him and I want him to succeed, the earlier the better, it's been a rocky start which does not surprise me in the least, I never thought he was as great as you think he is AND due to his known character deficiencies , never will.
Good post, Corbe. I want him to succeed also. He is the President and, so far, he has done better than I could have hoped. He's only embarrassed himself a little
So the people who leaked the information (and likely committed felonies in so doing) have no responsibility nor blame in the matter. Even though Flynn most likely did nothing illegal and was forced to resign only because he had created too much political distraction, not for any genuine misconduct that was actionable by Congress a court. Warped view of morality on display. Objectivity is the first casualty of fanaticism. Fanatical hatred for Trump is an ongoing obscenity.
My gut feeling is that Flynn resigned because Pence forced the issue. Flynn lied to the Vice President, who in turned repeated the lie to the American people. Trump was, no doubt, fully aware that Flynn was telling the Russians not to worry about Obama's latest sanctions. Whether Flynn technically violated the Logan Act is an interesting academic question, but the political reality is that Pence was hung out to dry, and Pence, IMO, demanded that Flynn be shit-canned. I too, want Trump to succeed, but he's got to show he can learn from his mistakes. Otherwise, it's all about protecting Pence from the storm that will cascade over and drown the Donald.
Bammy's shadow government was well in play on this. I know you're a Pence fan, but I'm really beginning to question why Trump selected him. I continue to view Pence as part of the establishment.
Not as bad as, "Trump may aspire to be a strongman..." To argue the particulars is to tacitly accept the premise.@Fishrrman
And, why hasn't Pence said anything? He's at the epicenter of this whole thing and is allegedly the agent who caused Flynn's resignation.
Kind of like how Trump "argued the particulars" by claiming one of the women he sexually harassed liked it?
Just a guess... but I think Pence not only has the ability to keep his mouth shut , but also the will to do so.
I fell in love with Mike Pence during the VP debate - enthralled by him, and I felt Trump made an awesome choice in picking him. I hate to say it, but now I am having doubts. I hope I'm wrong.