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Seriously to all you Ned Flanders types out there, do you not know what this show is about? And to think, some of these people let their little kids watch it then complained about the content? Even my wife wouldn't watch this episode.

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Now, with the most recent episode of #TheWalkingDead pushing even devoted fans of the series to their limits with its brutal depiction of bloody, bloody murder, it's perhaps not all that surprising that those who've never been fond of the show were downright appalled. That, at least, was the response of The Parents Television Council, a conservative watchdog that — in a move that should surprise literally no-one — just denounced The Walking Dead's Season 7 premiere for that aforementioned violence....

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Re: 'The Walking Dead' Premiere Didn't Go Down Well With Conservative Groups
« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2016, 10:11:37 pm »
I can't even handle the commercials.

NOT my kind of show.  Definitely not a show I would have let my kids watch.
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Re: 'The Walking Dead' Premiere Didn't Go Down Well With Conservative Groups
« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2016, 10:13:45 pm »
I can't even handle the commercials.

NOT my kind of show.  Definitely not a show I would have let my kids watch.

It is not a children's show in the least. Sunday's was even a bit rough for me. I have one friend (I think she is a member here) who said she was shaking and crying after that episode.

But there were no surprises, we knew what was coming.

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Re: 'The Walking Dead' Premiere Didn't Go Down Well With Conservative Groups
« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2016, 10:54:19 pm »
Typical nannies...don't like it?  Don't watch...

Uhm, when the governor was busy hacking Herschel's head off with Michonne's katana a couple of seasons back, wasn't that a FREAKIN' CLUE!?!?

What about the trough at Terminus?  Baseball bat to the back of the head and then slit the throats of their next meal...and there were others, too many to recall right now.

The method of dispatching the dead has become quite creative and consistent with the types of dead they've encountered.  Maggie in the sewer going all the way up the chest cavity of the one walker until saved by her partner...

I'll admit, Abraham's murder/execution was bad enough, showing Glenn after the first hit and severely injured, facial features distorted, practically dead, was a bit over the top...but there are disclaimers warning viewers about the violence.  My wife binge watches the DVD's upon release, hates waiting for the weekly episodes.  I've already told her that she either skips this one or prepares herself for some serious gore.

I don't watch the show for the violence.  But one has to figure that in a SHTF scenario similar to this, I do believe there will be elements that will match or exceed the level of cruelty and violence on display in WD. 

I watch it for the psychological, mental and physical components of trying to survive in a post apocalyptic world and the abundance of really stupid mistakes/actions...storyline ain't too bad either.

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Re: 'The Walking Dead' Premiere Didn't Go Down Well With Conservative Groups
« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2016, 10:58:00 pm »
It is not a children's show in the least. Sunday's was even a bit rough for me. I have one friend (I think she is a member here) who said she was shaking and crying after that episode.

But there were no surprises, we knew what was coming.

I have no problem with people watching the show.  I just wish (even though my kids are adults and all gone) that for the sake of other kids, they'd not show graphic faces, etc. on the commercials when anyone could be watching.

If people want to see it (and lots do), more power to them.

I suppose the ads are pretty tame compared to the show, but I'd like a little self-censorship coming from Hollywood.

Like in the "good old days."  :dx1:
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Re: 'The Walking Dead' Premiere Didn't Go Down Well With Conservative Groups
« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2016, 02:23:14 am »

I don't watch the show for the violence.  But one has to figure that in a SHTF scenario similar to this, I do believe there will be elements that will match or exceed the level of cruelty and violence on display in WD. 

I watch it for the psychological, mental and physical components of trying to survive in a post apocalyptic world and the abundance of really stupid mistakes/actions...storyline ain't too bad either.

I agree. As a horror show,it's a cartoon. How serious can you take monsters that can't even walk fast and have the IQ of a Dimocrat?

I see it like you,as a show about how to survive after the SHTF. The monsters are just there for the same purpose as the supermodels that are in action flicks.
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Re: 'The Walking Dead' Premiere Didn't Go Down Well With Conservative Groups
« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2016, 02:26:35 am »
Seriously to all you Ned Flanders types out there, do you not know what this show is about? And to think, some of these people let their little kids watch it then complained about the content? Even my wife wouldn't watch this episode.


The Bible thumpers are worse than the Trumpkins IMO...

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Re: 'The Walking Dead' Premiere Didn't Go Down Well With Conservative Groups
« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2016, 02:26:48 am »
I have no problem with people watching the show.  I just wish (even though my kids are adults and all gone) that for the sake of other kids, they'd not show graphic faces, etc. on the commercials when anyone could be watching.

If people want to see it (and lots do), more power to them.<<

@musiclady

Since this is basically a show about the survival of the human species after "life as we know it has ended",the graphic things need to be shown because survival is going to be pretty damn graphic. Tinker Belles ain't going to make it.



>>I suppose the ads are pretty tame compared to the show, but I'd like a little self-censorship coming from Hollywood.<<

"Self-Censorship" by Hollywood IS censorship to suit a certain political segment of society.


Like in the "good old days."  :dx1:
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Re: 'The Walking Dead' Premiere Didn't Go Down Well With Conservative Groups
« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2016, 02:32:38 am »
Typical nannies...don't like it?  Don't watch...

I watch it for the psychological, mental and physical components of trying to survive in a post apocalyptic world...

That is why I watch it.

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Re: 'The Walking Dead' Premiere Didn't Go Down Well With Conservative Groups
« Reply #9 on: October 26, 2016, 02:41:24 am »
The aggrieved losers in the The Parents Television Council can stuff it. This nanny state BS is why Conservatives have the bad street cred they do.

BTW, I tried to watch this stupid show when it came out and gave up on it because it was a bunch of unlikable characters looking for Govt' in DC to save them. It wasn't because of the violence. When I dial in once and a while all I see is hilariously fake blood and guts of the Hershel Gordon Lewis variety.
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Re: 'The Walking Dead' Premiere Didn't Go Down Well With Conservative Groups
« Reply #10 on: October 26, 2016, 02:49:43 am »
The aggrieved losers in the The Parents Television Council can stuff it. This nanny state BS is why Conservatives have the bad street cred they do.

BTW, I tried to watch this stupid show when it came out and gave up on it because it was a bunch of unlikable characters looking for Govt' in DC to save them. It wasn't because of the violence. When I dial in once and a while all I see is hilariously fake blood and guts of the Hershel Gordon Lewis variety.
The first couple of seasons were about seeking gov't help, it's what many in society have come to believe in, that gov't is the big nanny and is gonna save you...the characters in the show have since arrived at the conclusion that isn't happening, at least not yet...I don't know the comics so can't tell. 

Now they're in full on survival mode and trying to establish some sense of normalcy, to bring civilization "back". 

Hence Negan's poking fun at them about "sitting around a picnic table" in the Sunday's episode...and yes, the gore gets tiresome at times...but ya just gotta look past that and enjoy the special "special effects" these folks are putting out.  Some are pretty damned good. 

But I get it, it's not for everyone.
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« Reply #11 on: October 26, 2016, 02:51:34 am »
Mindless Tipper Gore and Terry Ricolla types.  Save the world from TV shows.  Get a life.

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Re: 'The Walking Dead' Premiere Didn't Go Down Well With Conservative Groups
« Reply #12 on: October 26, 2016, 03:04:35 am »
@sneakypete

I'm not sure what Louis B. Mayer's politics were, but the Hayes Act gave us decades of good, healthy entertainment for which I'm grateful.

And Hollywood did controlled itself.  No censorship required.

My love of clean musicals thanks them.
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Re: 'The Walking Dead' Premiere Didn't Go Down Well With Conservative Groups
« Reply #13 on: October 26, 2016, 03:31:11 am »
@sneakypete

I'm not sure what Louis B. Mayer's politics were, but the Hayes Act gave us decades of good, healthy entertainment for which I'm grateful.

And Hollywood did controlled itself.  No censorship required.

My love of clean musicals thanks them.

Mayer was a Republican and ran the CA state GOP back in the day.

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Re: 'The Walking Dead' Premiere Didn't Go Down Well With Conservative Groups
« Reply #14 on: October 26, 2016, 03:37:52 am »
Mayer was a Republican and ran the CA state GOP back in the day.

Oh, thanks for that, Frank.  I didn't know what his politics were.  I knew he was a task master and a strong man, but didn't know he was a Republican.
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Re: 'The Walking Dead' Premiere Didn't Go Down Well With Conservative Groups
« Reply #15 on: October 26, 2016, 04:10:45 am »
Some parents don't care what their kids watch. My guy went to see The hills have eyes 2 when it was in theaters. He said he was stunned at the family in front of him, had 6 kids, and 3 were under age 10. He said one looked to be about 5 or 6

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Re: 'The Walking Dead' Premiere Didn't Go Down Well With Conservative Groups
« Reply #16 on: October 26, 2016, 04:19:37 am »
I watched one episode and that was too much, it was just ridiculous.

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Re: 'The Walking Dead' Premiere Didn't Go Down Well With Conservative Groups
« Reply #17 on: October 26, 2016, 04:49:45 am »

The Bible thumpers are worse than the Trumpkins IMO...

Wow. Interesting sentiment. Did you actually intend to insult Bible-believing Christians on this board, or was that a slip of the keyboard?


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Re: 'The Walking Dead' Premiere Didn't Go Down Well With Conservative Groups
« Reply #18 on: October 26, 2016, 05:44:45 am »
@sneakypete

I'm not sure what Louis B. Mayer's politics were, but the Hayes Act gave us decades of good, healthy entertainment for which I'm grateful.

And Hollywood did controlled itself.  No censorship required.

My love of clean musicals thanks them.

@musiclady

You have to be kidding. There was a censor on every movie lot and on every tv episode,monitoring what was being done and said.
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Re: 'The Walking Dead' Premiere Didn't Go Down Well With Conservative Groups
« Reply #19 on: October 26, 2016, 07:21:51 am »

The Bible thumpers are worse than the Trumpkins IMO...
It isn't a question of Bible thumping, so much as what you probably don't want your four year old to watch. Theology question of the day: Do zombies have a soul?
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Re: 'The Walking Dead' Premiere Didn't Go Down Well With Conservative Groups
« Reply #20 on: October 26, 2016, 07:24:41 am »
@sneakypete It's the smell that will get them, not the scenery so much.
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Re: 'The Walking Dead' Premiere Didn't Go Down Well With Conservative Groups
« Reply #21 on: October 26, 2016, 11:02:02 am »
It isn't a question of Bible thumping, so much as what you probably don't want your four year old to watch. Theology question of the day: Do zombies have a soul?

@Smokin Joe

Who is telling you that you have to make your 4 year old granddaughter watch it?

You have every right to determine what you and your family CAN watch.

You have NO right to tell others what THEIR families will not be ALLOWED to watch.

If it were otherwise,your local government could legally tell you that you and your family MUST convert to Islam and make mandatory prayers daily and attend services at a local Mosque.

You can't have it both ways. Any government that has the authority to force people to obey YOUR religious viewpoints and customs also has the right to tell YOU to obey the religious viewpoints of Islam.

Be careful what  you ask for lest you get it.

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Re: 'The Walking Dead' Premiere Didn't Go Down Well With Conservative Groups
« Reply #22 on: October 26, 2016, 11:34:48 am »
I'm hopelessly out of it, I guess. Never had any interest in seeing this series. Since "Person of Interest" ended, there's no TV series anywhere that Mr. M and I watch, except for NYPD Blue reruns and Barnwood Builders.  :laugh:

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Re: 'The Walking Dead' Premiere Didn't Go Down Well With Conservative Groups
« Reply #23 on: October 26, 2016, 01:28:38 pm »
@musiclady

You have to be kidding. There was a censor on every movie lot and on every tv episode,monitoring what was being done and said.

I'm not kidding.  Hayes Act.  Cleaned up Hollywood.  Self imposed.

And it resulted in good, quality movies that everyone can watch. 

Some day you'll understand that we're not all the same as you are, @sneakypete, and being different doesn't make us stupid.  I don't anticipate being alive for that day, but I hope it will happen sometime soon....... for YOUR sake.
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Re: 'The Walking Dead' Premiere Didn't Go Down Well With Conservative Groups
« Reply #24 on: October 26, 2016, 01:44:21 pm »
I'm not kidding.  Hayes Act.  Cleaned up Hollywood.  Self imposed.

And it resulted in good, quality movies that everyone can watch. 


I gotta jump in here. First off it was the "Hays" act, not Hayes, named after William Hays. He was head of the Motion Pictures Association. Secondly it only lasted 4 years after talking pictures were introduced. It was such a disaster because no one adhered to it and a lot of early 30's films were full of sex, drugs and other things you are bashing now. In 1934 the Association enacted the Production Codes that lasted until the late 60's.

Mayer had nothing to do with the code system at any point along the line. The code when enacted was dumb as hell. It was in the code that every bad guy in the movie needed to be punished. It was in the code that married people needed to be in separate beds. The whole thing was absurd and made movies so boring that Hollywood was a shambles by the 60's and most movie production was done in Europe. Remember the Spaghetti style movies?