'The Walking Dead' Premiere Didn't Go Down Well With Conservative Groups

[ABX]

Seriously to all you Ned Flanders types out there, do you not know what this show is about? And to think, some of these people let their little kids watch it then complained about the content? Even my wife wouldn't watch this episode.

Now, with the most recent episode of #TheWalkingDead pushing even devoted fans of the series to their limits with its brutal depiction of bloody, bloody murder, it's perhaps not all that surprising that those who've never been fond of the show were downright appalled. That, at least, was the response of The Parents Television Council, a conservative watchdog that — in a move that should surprise literally no-one — just denounced The Walking Dead's Season 7 premiere for that aforementioned violence....

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[musiclady]

I can't even handle the commercials.

NOT my kind of show.  Definitely not a show I would have let my kids watch.

[ABX]

I can't even handle the commercials.

NOT my kind of show.  Definitely not a show I would have let my kids watch.

It is not a children's show in the least. Sunday's was even a bit rough for me. I have one friend (I think she is a member here) who said she was shaking and crying after that episode.

But there were no surprises, we knew what was coming.

[SZonian]

Typical nannies...don't like it?  Don't watch...

Uhm, when the governor was busy hacking Herschel's head off with Michonne's katana a couple of seasons back, wasn't that a FREAKIN' CLUE!?!?

What about the trough at Terminus?  Baseball bat to the back of the head and then slit the throats of their next meal...and there were others, too many to recall right now.

The method of dispatching the dead has become quite creative and consistent with the types of dead they've encountered.  Maggie in the sewer going all the way up the chest cavity of the one walker until saved by her partner...

I'll admit, Abraham's murder/execution was bad enough, showing Glenn after the first hit and severely injured, facial features distorted, practically dead, was a bit over the top...but there are disclaimers warning viewers about the violence.  My wife binge watches the DVD's upon release, hates waiting for the weekly episodes.  I've already told her that she either skips this one or prepares herself for some serious gore.

I don't watch the show for the violence.  But one has to figure that in a SHTF scenario similar to this, I do believe there will be elements that will match or exceed the level of cruelty and violence on display in WD. 

I watch it for the psychological, mental and physical components of trying to survive in a post apocalyptic world and the abundance of really stupid mistakes/actions...storyline ain't too bad either.

[musiclady]

It is not a children's show in the least. Sunday's was even a bit rough for me. I have one friend (I think she is a member here) who said she was shaking and crying after that episode.

But there were no surprises, we knew what was coming.

I have no problem with people watching the show.  I just wish (even though my kids are adults and all gone) that for the sake of other kids, they'd not show graphic faces, etc. on the commercials when anyone could be watching.

If people want to see it (and lots do), more power to them.

I suppose the ads are pretty tame compared to the show, but I'd like a little self-censorship coming from Hollywood.

Like in the "good old days."  :dx1:

[sneakypete]

I don't watch the show for the violence.  But one has to figure that in a SHTF scenario similar to this, I do believe there will be elements that will match or exceed the level of cruelty and violence on display in WD. 

I watch it for the psychological, mental and physical components of trying to survive in a post apocalyptic world and the abundance of really stupid mistakes/actions...storyline ain't too bad either.

I agree. As a horror show,it's a cartoon. How serious can you take monsters that can't even walk fast and have the IQ of a Dimocrat?

I see it like you,as a show about how to survive after the SHTF. The monsters are just there for the same purpose as the supermodels that are in action flicks.

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

Seriously to all you Ned Flanders types out there, do you not know what this show is about? And to think, some of these people let their little kids watch it then complained about the content? Even my wife wouldn't watch this episode.

The Bible thumpers are worse than the Trumpkins IMO...

[sneakypete]

I have no problem with people watching the show.  I just wish (even though my kids are adults and all gone) that for the sake of other kids, they'd not show graphic faces, etc. on the commercials when anyone could be watching.

If people want to see it (and lots do), more power to them.<<

@musiclady

Since this is basically a show about the survival of the human species after "life as we know it has ended",the graphic things need to be shown because survival is going to be pretty damn graphic. Tinker Belles ain't going to make it.



>>I suppose the ads are pretty tame compared to the show, but I'd like a little self-censorship coming from Hollywood.<<

"Self-Censorship" by Hollywood IS censorship to suit a certain political segment of society.

Like in the "good old days."  :dx1:

[Victoria33]

Typical nannies...don't like it?  Don't watch...

I watch it for the psychological, mental and physical components of trying to survive in a post apocalyptic world...

That is why I watch it.

[Frank Cannon]

The aggrieved losers in the The Parents Television Council can stuff it. This nanny state BS is why Conservatives have the bad street cred they do.

BTW, I tried to watch this stupid show when it came out and gave up on it because it was a bunch of unlikable characters looking for Govt' in DC to save them. It wasn't because of the violence. When I dial in once and a while all I see is hilariously fake blood and guts of the Hershel Gordon Lewis variety.

[SZonian]

The aggrieved losers in the The Parents Television Council can stuff it. This nanny state BS is why Conservatives have the bad street cred they do.

BTW, I tried to watch this stupid show when it came out and gave up on it because it was a bunch of unlikable characters looking for Govt' in DC to save them. It wasn't because of the violence. When I dial in once and a while all I see is hilariously fake blood and guts of the Hershel Gordon Lewis variety.

The first couple of seasons were about seeking gov't help, it's what many in society have come to believe in, that gov't is the big nanny and is gonna save you...the characters in the show have since arrived at the conclusion that isn't happening, at least not yet...I don't know the comics so can't tell. 

Now they're in full on survival mode and trying to establish some sense of normalcy, to bring civilization "back". 

Hence Negan's poking fun at them about "sitting around a picnic table" in the Sunday's episode...and yes, the gore gets tiresome at times...but ya just gotta look past that and enjoy the special "special effects" these folks are putting out.  Some are pretty damned good. 

But I get it, it's not for everyone.

[Wingnut]

Mindless Tipper Gore and Terry Ricolla types.  Save the world from TV shows.  Get a life.

[musiclady]

@sneakypete

I'm not sure what Louis B. Mayer's politics were, but the Hayes Act gave us decades of good, healthy entertainment for which I'm grateful.

And Hollywood did controlled itself.  No censorship required.

My love of clean musicals thanks them.

[Frank Cannon]

@sneakypete

I'm not sure what Louis B. Mayer's politics were, but the Hayes Act gave us decades of good, healthy entertainment for which I'm grateful.

And Hollywood did controlled itself.  No censorship required.

My love of clean musicals thanks them.

Mayer was a Republican and ran the CA state GOP back in the day.

[musiclady]

Mayer was a Republican and ran the CA state GOP back in the day.

Oh, thanks for that, Frank.  I didn't know what his politics were.  I knew he was a task master and a strong man, but didn't know he was a Republican.

[chae]

Some parents don't care what their kids watch. My guy went to see The hills have eyes 2 when it was in theaters. He said he was stunned at the family in front of him, had 6 kids, and 3 were under age 10. He said one looked to be about 5 or 6

[geronl]

I watched one episode and that was too much, it was just ridiculous.

[AllThatJazzZ]

The Bible thumpers are worse than the Trumpkins IMO...

Wow. Interesting sentiment. Did you actually intend to insult Bible-believing Christians on this board, or was that a slip of the keyboard?

[sneakypete]

@sneakypete

I'm not sure what Louis B. Mayer's politics were, but the Hayes Act gave us decades of good, healthy entertainment for which I'm grateful.

And Hollywood did controlled itself.  No censorship required.

My love of clean musicals thanks them.

@musiclady

You have to be kidding. There was a censor on every movie lot and on every tv episode,monitoring what was being done and said.

[Smokin Joe]

The Bible thumpers are worse than the Trumpkins IMO...

It isn't a question of Bible thumping, so much as what you probably don't want your four year old to watch. Theology question of the day: Do zombies have a soul?

[Smokin Joe]

@sneakypete It's the smell that will get them, not the scenery so much.

[sneakypete]

It isn't a question of Bible thumping, so much as what you probably don't want your four year old to watch. Theology question of the day: Do zombies have a soul?

@Smokin Joe

Who is telling you that you have to make your 4 year old granddaughter watch it?

You have every right to determine what you and your family CAN watch.

You have NO right to tell others what THEIR families will not be ALLOWED to watch.

If it were otherwise,your local government could legally tell you that you and your family MUST convert to Islam and make mandatory prayers daily and attend services at a local Mosque.

You can't have it both ways. Any government that has the authority to force people to obey YOUR religious viewpoints and customs also has the right to tell YOU to obey the religious viewpoints of Islam.

Be careful what  you ask for lest you get it.

[mountaineer]

I'm hopelessly out of it, I guess. Never had any interest in seeing this series. Since "Person of Interest" ended, there's no TV series anywhere that Mr. M and I watch, except for NYPD Blue reruns and Barnwood Builders. 

[musiclady]

@musiclady

You have to be kidding. There was a censor on every movie lot and on every tv episode,monitoring what was being done and said.

I'm not kidding.  Hayes Act.  Cleaned up Hollywood.  Self imposed.

And it resulted in good, quality movies that everyone can watch. 

Some day you'll understand that we're not all the same as you are, @sneakypete, and being different doesn't make us stupid.  I don't anticipate being alive for that day, but I hope it will happen sometime soon....... for YOUR sake.

[Frank Cannon]

I'm not kidding.  Hayes Act.  Cleaned up Hollywood.  Self imposed.

And it resulted in good, quality movies that everyone can watch. 

I gotta jump in here. First off it was the "Hays" act, not Hayes, named after William Hays. He was head of the Motion Pictures Association. Secondly it only lasted 4 years after talking pictures were introduced. It was such a disaster because no one adhered to it and a lot of early 30's films were full of sex, drugs and other things you are bashing now. In 1934 the Association enacted the Production Codes that lasted until the late 60's.

Mayer had nothing to do with the code system at any point along the line. The code when enacted was dumb as hell. It was in the code that every bad guy in the movie needed to be punished. It was in the code that married people needed to be in separate beds. The whole thing was absurd and made movies so boring that Hollywood was a shambles by the 60's and most movie production was done in Europe. Remember the Spaghetti style movies?

[driftdiver]

The Bible thumpers are worse than the Trumpkins IMO...

Bible Thumpers?   Sounds like something a liberal would say.

[musiclady]

I gotta jump in here. First off it was the "Hays" act, not Hayes, named after William Hays. He was head of the Motion Pictures Association. Secondly it only lasted 4 years after talking pictures were introduced. It was such a disaster because no one adhered to it and a lot of early 30's films were full of sex, drugs and other things you are bashing now. In 1934 the Association enacted the Production Codes that lasted until the late 60's.

Mayer had nothing to do with the code system at any point along the line. The code when enacted was dumb as hell. It was in the code that every bad guy in the movie needed to be punished. It was in the code that married people needed to be in separate beds. The whole thing was absurd and made movies so boring that Hollywood was a shambles by the 60's and most movie production was done in Europe. Remember the Spaghetti style movies?

Thanks for the correction.  My information was obviously only partial and partly incorrect.

Nonetheless, the movies in the (later) 30's were cleaned up and are still great entertainment.  As I said earlier, as a fan of great musicals, the 30's were the best of the best, with Fred and Ginger, Nelson and Jeanette.

There are a whole lot of people who are grateful for the 'censorship' that allow us to thoroughly enjoy movies without offense.

btw, the so-called "sophisticated" early 30's musicals (with Maurice Chevalier particularly) were dopey and Jr High silly in trying to be dirty.

They got MUCH better when they clamped down on the childish innuendo.

JMHO......

[Smokin Joe]

@Smokin Joe

Who is telling you that you have to make your 4 year old granddaughter watch it?

You have every right to determine what you and your family CAN watch.

You have NO right to tell others what THEIR families will not be ALLOWED to watch.

If it were otherwise,your local government could legally tell you that you and your family MUST convert to Islam and make mandatory prayers daily and attend services at a local Mosque.

You can't have it both ways. Any government that has the authority to force people to obey YOUR religious viewpoints and customs also has the right to tell YOU to obey the religious viewpoints of Islam.

Be careful what  you ask for lest you get it.

I fail to see where I called to ban it. Oh, I didn't.

I don't want the government involved. I would like for the ads for the show to be run when the little urchins are in bed, not three thirty in the afternoon. And that goes for some of the other age inappropriate trailers on the tube, too. That's something that can be done while the government is off picking it's collective nose as far as I am concerned. Why does doing something that should be common sense have to have a frigging law?

BTW, I have told local government to go piss up a rope before, I reckon it'll happen again.

[Free Vulcan]

I hate to tell these conservative groups, but what's going on now in TWD is minor compared to what it will be like if SHTF. I understand there needs to be some kind of level of decency, but what they portray is well within context.

[Smokin Joe]

I hate to tell these conservative groups, but what's going on now in TWD is minor compared to what it will be like if SHTF. I understand there needs to be some kind of level of decency, but what they portray is well within context.

I think it is just prep for the meltdown anyway. But no amount of teevee will ever prep someone for the smell of either gore or decaying flesh.

[Frank Cannon]

Thanks for the correction.  My information was obviously only partial and partly incorrect.

Nonetheless, the movies in the (later) 30's were cleaned up and are still great entertainment.  As I said earlier, as a fan of great musicals, the 30's were the best of the best, with Fred and Ginger, Nelson and Jeanette.

There are a whole lot of people who are grateful for the 'censorship' that allow us to thoroughly enjoy movies without offense.

btw, the so-called "sophisticated" early 30's musicals (with Maurice Chevalier particularly) were dopey and Jr High silly in trying to be dirty.

They got MUCH better when they clamped down on the childish innuendo.

JMHO......

You may like those movies, but the public tired of them after 20 years of saccharine fluff. I don't have a problem with a ratings system to know what you are about to see, but censorship is a loser whenever it is enacted. 

[SZonian]

The Bible thumpers are worse than the Trumpkins IMO...

I'm just a "clinger"...

[sneakypete]

I'm not kidding.  Hayes Act.  Cleaned up Hollywood.  Self imposed.

And it resulted in good, quality movies that everyone can watch.  <<

@musiclady

Yeah,and killed every bit of creativity while pleasing the "Church Ladies of the world" and no one else.

Not to mention what it did to comedy.

>>Some day you'll understand that we're not all the same... <<

YOU are telling ME this??????

>> and being different doesn't make us stupid.<<

Nor does it make us evil.

 >>I don't anticipate being alive for that day, but I hope it will happen sometime soon....... for YOUR sake.<<

PLEASE give that phony piety a rest. You care nothing about anyone but yourself and what YOU want,or you wouldn't be trying to force censorship off on the rest of us.

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

Bible Thumpers?   Sounds like something a liberal would say.

The younger generation has no use for the Jesus people, believe me. They're tired of wedge issues.

[sneakypete]

I'm hopelessly out of it, I guess. Never had any interest in seeing this series. Since "Person of Interest" ended, there's no TV series anywhere that Mr. M and I watch, except for NYPD Blue reruns and Barnwood Builders. 

@mountaineer

It had already been airing for several years before I ever tuned in to see if I could understand why so many people liked it. I do NOT go for horror movies,and being afraid of monsters that can only shamble along as 1 MPH,can't climb,have no brains,no defense,and growl to warn you they are coming made no sense at all.

Then I watched the first episode and figured out the zombies were just a "tool" to sell a show about survival after "The World As We Know It Comes To An End",and it clicked. It's a first rate series about survival,the sacrifices that will have to be made,the changes in thinking that have to be made to survive,and about how people from different backgrounds and cultures will have to come together to form a new society if any of them want to survive.

They could have used a giant Asteroid crashing into the Earth as a plot anchor if they had wanted,but that type of thing had been done several times before,so I guess they settled on Zombies to pull in the young crowd and to be different.

[sneakypete]

Bible Thumpers?   Sounds like something a liberal would say.

@driftdiver

How old are you,12? That has to be one of the most juvenile attacks I have seen.

[sneakypete]

I fail to see where I called to ban it. Oh, I didn't.

I don't want the government involved. I would like for the ads for the show to be run when the little urchins are in bed, not three thirty in the afternoon. And that goes for some of the other age inappropriate trailers on the tube, too. <<

I see and understand your point,or would if  you had written 7 PM. Nothing is on in the afternoons buy those dreary wimmins programs like soap operas and "you go,gurl!" shows. I would rather have teeth pulled than watch any of them,and can't imagine a child watching any of them unless forced to watch.

Or a 4 year old understanding what they were seeing and hearing if they were forced to watch. I don't even see  how adults can stand to watch that crap.


>>That's something that can be done while the government is off picking it's collective nose as far as I am concerned. Why does doing something that should be common sense have to have a frigging law? <<

Best argument against official censorship I have ever seen.  If YOU don't want to watch something,don't watch it. If YOU don't want YOUR children watching something,don't let them watch it. See how simple that is,and it doesn't involves the government or the Mrs Grundy's of the world at all.

[Hurricane Andrew]

Seriously to all you Ned Flanders types out there, do you not know what this show is about? And to think, some of these people let their little kids watch it then complained about the content? Even my wife wouldn't watch this episode.

Totally agree.  It's clear what the content is.  The outrage reminds me of Tipper Gore and the PMRC back in the day.

[sneakypete]

You may like those movies, but the public tired of them after 20 years of saccharine fluff. I don't have a problem with a ratings system to know what you are about to see, but censorship is a loser whenever it is enacted.

 

[sneakypete]

The younger generation has no use for the Jesus people, believe me. They're tired of wedge issues.

@Weird Tolkienish Figure

Not just the younger generation. There are a BUNCH of geezers like me that are as fed up with that form of Nazism as they are every other form of Nazism.

Remember stupid crap like "Blue Laws" telling us what we could and could not buy on Sundays,and even telling us that what we COULD be ALLOWED to buy could only be bought after Church hours had ended?

I remember one example where you were allowed to buy beer after 2 PM,but not allowed to buy dog food until Monday.

[driftdiver]

The younger generation has no use for the Jesus people, believe me. They're tired of wedge issues.

@Weird Tolkienish Figure

Yes, its been the same story for 2000 years.

[driftdiver]

@driftdiver

How old are you,12? That has to be one of the most juvenile attacks I have seen.

@sneakypete

Yes of course this is a touchy subject for you.  Its far less juvenile then calling religious people "bible thumpers".

Until recently the only people in a political realm who have been insulting and otherwise attacking Christian "bible thumpers" have been the liberals. 

So ya see its not a juvenile attack, its factual.

[Free Vulcan]

The younger generation has no use for the Jesus people, believe me. They're tired of wedge issues.

True, but since the 60's the Younger Generation has pretty much been full of crap, sucking up and spewing out the catechism of liberal religious zealotry all over America, so there's a little pot-kettle-black going on with that.

Alot of that hate is pent up frustration from not being able to butcher right wingers like they did in the good old days of Stalin, Mao, and the gang. They get mad because right wingers and Jesus people refuse to comply with their decadent pop culture that they want to shove down our throat.

Which is also why I have guns.

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

Alot of that hate is pent up frustration from not being able to butcher right wingers like they did in the good old days of Stalin, Mao, and the gang.

No, they just beat us at the polls, repeatedly, since 1992 or so.

[Frank Cannon]

The younger generation has no use for the Jesus people, believe me. They're tired of wedge issues.

There have been wedge issues as long as there has been politics. To think otherwise is Pollyanna bullshit.

[chae]

Best part of that show in the second season was Dale getting eaten.

[AllThatJazzZ]

The younger generation has no use for the Jesus people, believe me. They're tired of wedge issues.

Please name one Christian (Bible thumper) who would rather center his/her life around pleasing the younger generation than Jesus (their savior). If you do come up with any names, I'd strongly recommend that they get themselves into the Word and into a discipleship class, because such people would obviously have zero maturity in their faith. If they truly are Christians.

[geronl]

Just like Trumpers are shocked, people are shocked when people actually do or say conservative things.

[sneakypete]

@sneakypete

@driftdiver

Yes of course this is a touchy subject for you.  Its far less juvenile then calling religious people "bible thumpers".<<

WHY? That's what they/you are. If  you don't  like it,quit thumping on your bible and demanding we all live according to the dictates in it.


>>Until recently the only people in a political realm who have been insulting and otherwise attacking Christian "bible thumpers" have been the liberals.  <<

That tells me that either you haven't been paying much attention,or that the left (They are NOT "liberal" in ANY sense of the word) isn't always wrong.

So ya see its not a juvenile attack, its factual.<<

No,it was juvenile.

[sneakypete]

True, but since the 60's the Younger Generation has pretty much been full of crap, sucking up and spewing out the catechism of liberal religious zealotry all over America, so there's a little pot-kettle-black going on with that.

Alot of that hate is pent up frustration from not being able to butcher right wingers like they did in the good old days of Stalin, Mao, and the gang. They get mad because right wingers and Jesus people refuse to comply with their decadent pop culture that they want to shove down our throat.

Which is also why I have guns.

@Free Vulcan

Just how freaking old are you that you can call a generation of people now eligible for  Social Security "The Younger Generation"? Younger than what,dirt?

BTW,I have guns also.