NeverTrump Now More Than Ever

[bilo]

Good luck filling a phone booth with supporters next time around.

It's a point that isn't lost on me. I know if Trump loses the blame will fall on conservatives and Sen Cruz. If Trump wins and can't get anything done again the blame will fall on conservatives and Sen. Cruz. If Trump wins and is a disaster and Sen Cruz runs against him the primaries again it will be the conservatives and Sen Cruz who will be blamed because everything is falling apart.

I get it Trump supporters are not going to support conservatives and especially Sen Cruz in the future.

Yet I happily stand with Sen Cruz. I much rather support the man who has principals and shares my values than the man who has none. At the end of the day I sleep well and can live with myself.

[XenaLee]

And even when you provide the video with Trump, in his own words, admitting that he voided the pledge, his loyal fans whine, moan and screech that Ted is the villain.  They embrace the lies and parrot them proudly.

[Chieftain]

"...to the last I grapple with thee; from hell's heart I stab at thee; for hate's sake I spit my last breath at thee...thou damned whale!!" -- Ahab

 

[bilo]

Amen to that. I think they are afraid of losing, they know Trump is not guaranteed to get elected and that scares them

I've come to the realization that no matter who wins it's going to be a very rough 4 yrs. I hope and pray after these 4 yrs the country will be ready for a conservative leader and will turn away from the mob rule of the left or right.

[Idaho_Cowboy]

It's a point that isn't lost on me. I know if Trump loses the blame will fall on conservatives and Sen Cruz. If Trump wins and can't get anything done again the blame will fall on conservatives and Sen. Cruz. If Trump wins and is a disaster and Sen Cruz runs against him the primaries again it will be the conservatives and Sen Cruz who will be blamed because everything is falling apart.

I get it Trump supporters are not going to support conservatives and especially Sen Cruz in the future.

Yet I happily stand with Sen Cruz. I much rather support the man who has principals and shares my values than the man who has none. At the end of the day I sleep well and can live with myself.

We must never confuse winning with right and wrong. Might does not make right. Anyone who doesn't understand that should read the Once and Future King. "Might does not make right. Right makes right."

[INVAR]

Trumpkins will NEVER go after Hillary with the same energy or the same vitriol that they do when they attack Conservatives.

Oh I know.

I just plan on pointing that out at every opportunity they provide.

And Trump himself will illustrate it as he already has after Comey spoke and absolved Hildabeast.

Trump was sent in by Hillary and the Establishment to destroy Conservatives and Conservatism and that is the real enemy they seek to put down.

It's you and me they fear and hate the most.

[txradioguy]

Oh I know.

I just plan on pointing that out at every opportunity they provide.

And Trump himself will illustrate it as he already has after Comey spoke and absolved Hildabeast.

Trump was sent in by Hillary and the Establishment to destroy Conservatives and Conservatism and that is the real enemy they seek to put down.

It's you and me they fear and hate the most.

And its that hatred and desire to eat their own that will be their downfall.

[Ghost Bear]

I don't know what part of "vote your conscience" is so difficult. If your conscience allows you to vote for Donald Trump, then do so.

If, like mine, it doesn't, then don't vote for him.  Isn't that the way it's always been in the privacy of the voting booth?  Isn't that the way it's supposed to be? 

[IsailedawayfromFR]

But I suppose, that despite reneging on that promise well beforehand (after those lies from the Trump camp were well under way), that the Trump people are still desperate to justify having called Senator Cruz "Lyin' Ted" for months. You still don't have that justification.
Look now, at the new king of the GOPee. Donald Trump. He isn't an 'outsider' now, he's their poster child.

Darn, I was always impressed when they called him Lion Ted.  Fits him well

[Smokin Joe]

Darn, I was always impressed when they called him Lion Ted.  Fits him well

That's the way I visualized it when I saw it. Lesser candidates went home after considerably less slander and vitriol.

[libertybele]

At this point Trump has sealed his coffin.  He should have mended fences with Ted a long time ago.  Cruz made his point very specific -- he clearly did NOT endorse Trump and therefore none of his supporters will either.  Trump needs Cruz and his supporters much much more than they need him.  Trump will lose without our support.  Plain and simple.  Trumps biggest mistake is that he hasn't understood that he received a lot of DEM votes from voters who wanted him to run against Hillary ... they also know he will lose.  Trump just handed Hillary the White House ... all by design of course.

#NeverTrump

[Fantom]

At this point Trump has sealed his coffin.  He should have mended fences with Ted a long time ago.  Cruz made his point very specific -- he clearly did NOT endorse Trump and therefore none of his supporters will either.  Trump needs Cruz and his supporters much much more than they need him.  Trump will lose without our support.  Plain and simple.  Trumps biggest mistake is that he hasn't understood that he received a lot of DEM votes from voters who wanted him to run against Hillary ... they also know he will lose.  Trump just handed Hillary the White House ... all by design of course.

#NeverTrump

Right.. I am done with trump.

[roamer_1]

Amen to that. I think they are afraid of losing, they know Trump is not guaranteed to get elected and that scares them

Just wait till the begging starts... Some time around September...

[Fantom]

Darn, I was always impressed when they called him Lion Ted.  Fits him well

Iron Ted fits him better.

First I saw that spoken..was by unknown author in the Wednesday RNC thread...to which I give full credit.

[geronl]

It's a point that isn't lost on me. I know if Trump loses the blame will fall on conservatives and Sen Cruz.

Not it doesn't. It does not work that way. If Trump cannot attract the votes to win, they have nobody to blame but orangeselves.

[NavyCanDo]

Not it doesn't. It does not work that way. If Trump cannot attract the votes to win, they have nobody to blame but orangeselves.

Exactly right.    I will guarantee you that I on election night will be desperately hoping for Hilldabeast to lose - but Trump has done nothing to earn my vote, or convince me he is any less of a big government than she is. As Cruz said, I will let my conscience be my guide.

[roamer_1]

As Cruz said, I will let my conscience be my guide.

Ain't nothin' better.

[Mesaclone]

I see the spherical self-pleasuring of the NeverTrump group continues.

The speech tonight was a true homerun. The polling has been incredibly positive and Frank Luntz' s group of undecided voters was stunning...even a couple self proclaimed NeverTrumps converted, along with a Bernie supporter and some ordinary Republicans. It was very heartening to see. Overall, HUGELY positive response.

[txradioguy]

I see the spherical self-pleasuring of the NeverTrump group continues.

The speech tonight was a true homerun. The polling has been incredibly positive and Frank Luntz' s group of undecided voters was stunning...even a couple self proclaimed NeverTrumps converted, along with a Bernie supporter and some ordinary Republicans. It was very heartening to see. Overall, HUGELY positive response.

Don't you have something more useful to do like pullimg the wings off of flies or lighting bags of dog poop on your neighbors doorstep?

Cheerimg the rise of a despot isn't something to ne proud of.

[INVAR]

I see the spherical self-pleasuring of the NeverTrump group continues.

And that really bothers the hell out of you.

That we exist.  That we are here.

That we can speak.

And speak freely without banning, censoring or elimination.

Which is what you and yours will want to do to everyone who will not bend the knee to your prince.

Because it is not about liberty as protected by the Constitution.  It's about Trump with you.

It's not about inalienable Rights as granted by our Creator.  It's all about Trump with you.

It's not about freedom, limited government, eradication of bloated oppressive bureaucracies.  It's all about Trump with you.

Which is why you have to come over, tweak our noses, go "neener, neener, neener" and rattle off how many multitudes are going to seig-heil Il Douche and run off the totalitarian cliff with him.

Well go ahead and run and jump with your prince.

We want nothing to do with you and yours and may posterity ever forget we were countrymen.

[Mesaclone]

And that really bothers the hell out of you.

That we exist.  That we are here.

That we can speak.

And speak freely without banning, censoring or elimination.

Which is what you and yours will want to do to everyone who will not bend the knee to your prince.

Because it is not about liberty as protected by the Constitution.  It's about Trump with you.

It's not about inalienable Rights as granted by our Creator.  It's all about Trump with you.

It's not about freedom, limited government, eradication of bloated oppressive bureaucracies.  It's all about Trump with you.

Which is why you have to come over, tweak our noses, go "neener, neener, neener" and rattle off how many multitudes are going to seig-heil Il Douche and run off the totalitarian cliff with him.

Well go ahead and run and jump with your prince.

We want nothing to do with you and yours and may posterity ever forget we were countrymen.

Actually it amuses me. This is the perfect example of a delusional feedback loop...its quite interesting to observe. All of your premises are based on either outright falsehoods or grotesquely subjective twistings of reality. You take all of that and lump into some bizarre conception that you are under siege, and that others are trying to take away your freedom of action or thought. Its an amazing thing.  So I'm not tweaking you as much as I'm just enjoying seeing some psychological concepts put into action.

[LilLamb]

I spent the day having my brothers insult me. I want you to understand that these are loving, sweet brothers that have turned into ugly people I don't even recognize. It scares me more than I can put into words that Trump has that power over their minds.  Today, I have felt more #nevertrump than I ever imagined I would feel.

[INVAR]

Actually it amuses me.

So you outed yourself as a troll on top of demonstrating your aptitude at lying.  Good for you.

All of your premises are based on either outright falsehoods or grotesquely subjective twistings of reality.

We all suffered and read and/or watched the Castro/IlDouche speech from your prince last night.  We know what we read and heard and what the implications or outright unConstitutional power grabs and trips he uttered in his dark and doom-ridden "I am your savior" speech.

You take all of that and lump into some bizarre conception that you are under siege,

Your mob booing the the Constitution and your fellow Trump militants issuing death threats and fantasizing about roaming the countryside to shoot and/or hang NeverTrumps for treason will have that effect.  So too will encouraging mass bannings from forums and social groups;  deletions and censoring of comments and speech you snowflakes find objectionable;  and recruiting help from fellow Trump fanatics from other websites to come over here to this board to hassle and cajole those of us who refuse your prince, only add to the fact that our 'bizarre conception' is based on actual actions from you people.

and that others are trying to take away your freedom of action or thought. An amazing thing.

We watched you people demonstrate that on the "Official Convention thread" this week and I got to experience having the exhausted mods notify me that every comment you people find upsetting is being reported by your troupe and I had to go back and edit and remove historical references because you snowflakes cannot handle our freedom of action and thoughts that contravene your idolatry and worship of a Liberal Democrat running as your party's nominee.

It is an amazing thing to watch you people act just like Liberal Leftists.

[INVAR]

I spent the day having my brothers insult me. I want you to understand that these are loving, sweet brothers that have turned into ugly people I don't even recognize. It scares me more than I can put into words that Trump has that power over their minds.  Today, I have felt more #nevertrump than I ever imagined I would feel.

Spirits of abject evil, discord and hate have been unleashed upon the land with our Fundamental Transformation and the rise of Trump.

It is the Lord's Judgement, and we have been given over to the full tyranny of men because we refused to be governed by God as a culture.

[Idaho_Cowboy]

I don't know what part of "vote your conscience" is so difficult. If your conscience allows you to vote for Donald Trump, then do so.

If, like mine, it doesn't, then don't vote for him.  Isn't that the way it's always been in the privacy of the voting booth?  Isn't that the way it's supposed to be? 

Not any more the party is everything. Trump and friends rooted for big brother when they read 1984. They tell us doing what we believe is right is a threat to the country.