ALTERNATE LIVE CONVENTION THREAD - MONDAY, JULY 18

[Hoodat]

I am unwilling to say "more."  Maybe not less.  My main issue is that there are millions of pictures of her naked floating around all over the world.  It is not even what she has done.  It is the ongoing indecency of it while she might hold a very important honorary position in our government, meeting and hosting world leaders.   At least Bill didn't do it on film or in pictures.

I think it says more about Donald than her.  Keep in mind that the infamous GQ photo shoot was done on board Trump's jet.

[Hoodat]

I'm sure Melania did not write her own speech,

I am 100% certain that Melania did not write that speech?  How can I be so certain?  Because Donald Trump said she wrote it.

Trump will lie even when telling the truth sounds better.

[Cripplecreek]

Pastors like this have no business praying in public. 

Catastrophe was only narrowly averted. It was all due to the faith of one man! Yes, you who called us godless, we found our faith in Adolf Hitler, and through him found God once again. That is the greatness of our day, that is our good fortune!
Robert Ley, German Labor Front leader under Hitler

[Neverdul]

Also, call me a prude, but I don't really want a first lady who has posed for pornographic pictures.  It is creepy to think she will go around the world meeting leaders and that they might have those pictures of her under their mattresses.  Just sayin'.  These sorts of things used to matter to most people.   I'm not saying she broke any laws.  I just would prefer a more dignified front.  Oh she is pretty and graceful.  I can't see her as classy.  Just can't.  She was a piece of meat Trump purchased when he needed to upgrade his wife to a younger model.

It's also lesbian porn videos.

I’ve heard the rumors and have seen (unfortunately) the pictures on the Worldwideinterwebs of what purports to be a picture of a young Melania, full frontal and completely naked and the other pics that show a woman who resembles her rolling around naked on a bed with another naked woman in what appears to be lesbian porn.  But I am not convinced those pictures are actually of her and I know of no lesbian porn videos.  And I’m not about to enter the “dark web” to research further.

She has however done some (hem) “provocative” photo shoots, for Sports Illustrated and most famously the photo shoot for GQ – “The Naked Supermodel Special” edition, that was actually facilitated by Donald for his then girlfriend and the pictures were taken on board his plane – yes the plane that some people call Air Force Trump.

Some may consider these photos pornographic or some would call it “soft” porn but I wouldn’t consider them porn as in hard core porn.   I do however think they are very tacky.

http://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/article/donald-trump-melania-trump-knauss-first-lady-erections

Speaking of tacky:



I would also note that Ivanka who also had brief stint as a “model” also posed for some rather provocative and sexy photos for some men’s magazines like Stuff and Maxim.  I guess that was before she converted to “Orthodox” Judaism.





Here is Ivanka showing off her business acumen for a cover of Harper’s Bazaar:





Because nothing says "I'm a smart, accomplished and successful business woman” more than posing in a very low cut swim suit and high heels while rather provocatively holding a jack hammer.

 

[mountaineer]

Frank Luntz ‏@FrankLuntz 5h5 hours ago

I sure hope the media will be equally aggressive to condemn Hillary Clinton plagiarizing Bernie Sanders' speeches next week.  #RNCinCLE

[Smokin Joe]

Ok....now that mom's gone....lol

Is this the official Mock Trump Thread? 

I have to catch up.  Here goes....

Ok, so I see the "Bikers for Trump" showed up.  So when do the "Hookers for Trump" arrive?  And will there be enough to go around?  (ooops)

Trump has been surrounded by prostitutes of one sort or another for a long time.

[Cripplecreek]

Frank Luntz ‏@FrankLuntz 5h5 hours ago

I sure hope the media will be equally aggressive to condemn Hillary Clinton plagiarizing Bernie Sanders' speeches next week.  #RNCinCLE

They won't be and he knows it. Its why we need to be better then the democrats.

[mountaineer]

They won't be and he knows it. Its why we need to be better then the democrats.

[Cripplecreek]

Sean Davis ‏@seanmdav 12h12 hours ago

The people running this GOP convention are the same people who'll tell you on Nov. 9 that they need to be in charge of rebuilding the party.
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[mlizzy]

@LonestarDream

Oops....was reading Shapiro's twitter and ran across this:

John McCormack ‏@McCormackJohn  15m15 minutes ago
Aside from the plagiarism, Melania's speech wasn't terrible if you pretend her marriage to Donald J. Trump isn't absurd.

Melania's RNC bio claims she graduated college, but she's actually a drop-out:

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/rnc-2016-melania-trump-biography-225781

It appears Melania's speech might have been plagiarized from one given by Michelle Obama:

https://www.buzzfeed.com/mbvd/melania-trumps-speech-appears-to-have-plagiarized-from-miche?utm_term=.hhmQaJxgXQ#.iolr0Nzgyr

Melania Trump said in her speech Monday:

From a young age, my parents impressed on me the values that you work hard for what you want in life. That your word is your bond and you do what you say and keep your promise. That you treat people with respect. They taught and showed me values and morals in their daily life. That is a lesson that I continue to pass along to our son, and we need to pass those lessons on to the many generations to follow because we want our children in this nation to know that the only limit to your achievements is the strength of your dreams and your willingness to work for them.

Michelle Obama’s convention speech in 2008 hit on many of the same themes:

And Barack and I were raised with so many of the same values: that you work hard for what you want in life; that your word is your bond and you do what you say you’re going to do; that you treat people with dignity and respect, even if you don’t know them, and even if you don’t agree with them.
And Barack and I set out to build lives guided by these values, and pass them on to the next generation. Because we want our children — and all children in this nation — to know that the only limit to the height of your achievements is the reach of your dreams and your willingness to work for them.

@CatherineofAragon ~ Why would the campaign do something so blatant as this? What is the purpose?

[Timber Rattler]

Okay, haven't been around much the last week, or really since I was excommunicated "by accident", why are there two convention threads??

The LIVE Convention thread has been locked down by one of the site owners and heavily censored with mass post deletions.  It's a pro-Trump only echo chamber thread.  This one is the true live thread.

[Timber Rattler]

- Well spoken
- Poised
- Eastern European hard work and values
- Father taught her business
- Trump wants to give back
- Trump good to his employees ( I know, there are counter examples)
- Mother taught her love of modeling
- Trump a winner , does not give up
- Has been with Trump 18 years , good man.
- Melania knows America is special because she grew up under communism

And a plagiarist...

"Melania Trump Apparently Plagiarized a Section of Michelle Obama's 2008 Convention Speech"

http://gawker.com/melania-trump-apparently-plagiarized-a-section-of-miche-1783889522

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

And a plagiarist...

"Melania Trump Apparently Plagiarized a Section of Michelle Obama's 2008 Convention Speech"

http://gawker.com/melania-trump-apparently-plagiarized-a-section-of-miche-1783889522

Ridiculous accusation IMO.

[Timber Rattler]

Ridiculous accusation IMO.

How so?  Either she or her speechwriter obviously did it? 

So it's OK now because Obama and Biden did it?

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

How so?  Either she or her speechwriter obviously did it? 

So it's OK now because Obama and Biden did it?

The selected phrases are so cliched and trite that you could have picked them out of any high school valedictorian speech.

[Smokin Joe]

Uh, speaking as one of the male population, I don't find her hot at all.

I've never been into plastic women.

Yep. There is 'glamorous' which takes either an army of attendants and lots of stuff, or there is pretty, which comes naturally. Beautiful takes time to discern, because it involves character, too.

[wolfcreek]

And a plagiarist...

"Melania Trump Apparently Plagiarized a Section of Michelle Obama's 2008 Convention Speech"

http://gawker.com/melania-trump-apparently-plagiarized-a-section-of-miche-1783889522

The fact you nevertrumpers jumped on this with the same zeal as MSNBC or CNN is telling.

[wolfcreek]

The selected phrases are so cliched and trite that you could have picked them out of any high school valedictorian speech.

Thank you for pointing that out.

I find it interesting that posters here would grab at such straws.

[ABX]

@CatherineofAragon ~ Why would the campaign do something so blatant as this? What is the purpose?

Thats been the question about a lot of things, was it by design or incompetence?

[Wingnut]

Yeah, it was a TCG thread, minus the tag.

Thank you for this one. It was both well-moderated and informative.

When it comes to effective moderation, less is more.  A fact lost on "Official" thread as evidenced by the Erdoganish style by which they policed the thread.

[Smokin Joe]

Oh, please. Like all of the other never Trump predictions of doom and damage that never materialized. 

Some toxins are cumulative. Wait for it.

[Cripplecreek]

I'm not going to blame Melania Trump for the speech someone gave to her.

She's used to leftovers anyway.

[ABX]

On the citizens for trump page, the spin they are going with is she was honoring Michelle and other first ladies by incorporating their themes. Not kidding.

[Ghost Bear]

The really telling thing is that this incompetent campaign couldn't get through the first day and night of the convention without it blowing up in their faces.

Get ready, it's all downhill from here. 

[LonestarDream]

You're exaggerating. Critical commentary is different from vile attacks. Most neutral observers recognize the difference. I've never objected to criticism of Trump, I've got my own criticisms. But, going overboard and impugning his supporters is where I draw the line.

No I am not.  Gave a compliment that 10% constructive criticism and it was deleted.  Same comments on this thread stood.

Am ok with that.  More interested in having something focus group here to understand how Trump might fare in the fall, particularly with the key demographic of women.

Looks like we have a vocal minority of fawners and majority of folks who are put off by Melania by either envy or disdain.