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Re: All delegates are unbound
« Reply #125 on: July 12, 2016, 03:30:52 pm »
Inherent in your comment is the delusion that there are enough crazy delegates that are willing to destroy the Republican party over lies from the Establishment and Left Wing media. Lets recap shall we? On the Rules comettee the head of your movement cannot find 28 named delegates to support your position. The Rules Committee was where the most effort of #neverTrump occurred to stack it with anti-Trump people. Even the Anti-Trump articles stroking you guys about your movement indicate the delegates opposing Trump are around 700, the same number who are bound to vote for the other candidates. Several of your own sources have told you now more then once you do not have the numbers to do what you want.

Combine that with the Federal Court confirming Rule 16 is in effect and the RNC can legally enforce it NOW with the RNC telling you that your movement will be negated by RNC at the convention. Odds are all you will accomplish is to get fanatical anti-Trump delegates ejected from the convention before they can do any damage to the Republican Party.

So in sum; there are not enough of the anti-Trumps to accomplish what you want. If you try it the RNC has promised to nullify it. A Federal Court has upheld the RNC has the legal authority to do so. And, the ones trying this craziness are subject to civil penalties from both their State and National Parties including but not limited to ejection from conference.

That is your intrepretation of things, not what is, but what you want it to be. We will not know till it plays out at convention.

You don't have the experience or knowledge to even know what you're talking about, and maybe you should stop acting as if you do.
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Re: All delegates are unbound
« Reply #126 on: July 12, 2016, 03:41:07 pm »

The whole thing seems to have become a complicated game, rather than the deadly serious business it is.


^^^ This!

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Re: All delegates are unbound
« Reply #127 on: July 12, 2016, 03:44:25 pm »
Trump Supporters read this
Michael Harrington·Monday, July 11, 2016

Today on July 11th a ruling was passed down. You can read the ruling here. The ruling is made up of a number of parts. To best describe it I will use a car mechanic analogy. The owner comes in, and reports a problem, a stranger makes a guess at the problem, and the cashier says otherwise. The mechanic, listening nearby snickers. He knows they are all wrong. He walks in and he starts to tell them each where they went wrong. In the end he points to the car driver and says “You had the right part, but you listed the wrong reason”.

This court ruling, if you read the very bottom, just made it so all delegates can use the First Amendment to vote how they want. Let that sink in. ALL DELEGATES CAN VOTE HOW THEY WANT.

Now while there was all this fighting for bound positions, in the background at the State Conventions the humans who filled those positions were picked. Those humans are no longer bound, so their hearts desire is what is now important.

You will find that Ted Cruz has 900 to 1000 of those people pledged to him. Trump was not so organized at State Conventions so he has 400-500 of those people pledged to him. Rubio secured Florida entirely and can be presumed to have about 150-200 delegates pledged to him. Christie, who is pledged to Trump, secured New Jersey an can probably assist Trump with 51 more delegates. Kasich has secured about 200 Delegates, maybe at most 300 if he really is pushing as hard as I hear he is. Thats 1701 to 2051 delegates known pledged. That leaves somewhere between 421 to 771 free delegates.

Actually most of those are not so free, you see those are going to be the establishment hacks. And they are now suddenly eyeing this with intensity. I have inside knowledge that Kasich is making a move, probably will announce it fairly soon since it is clear Trump is out. I do not like Kasich, this move is not popular with me. However I also have word that another candidate who ran, no I do not know the name, and an outsider who did not run this time, also plan moves.

Given the talk I expect this to be Scott Walker and Mitt Romney, though I cannot be sure of those guesses. This is based upon the headlines, the Facebook chatter, and other minor notes, nothing firm.

This convention is going to get ugly and Trump is gone, they will remove him in the voting process. There is no way to prevent it after the court ruling and given the fact groups such as #FreeTheDelegates and DelegateRevolt will have approximately 3 times the floor Whips as the RNC will have and where Trump appears to be entirely relying upon the RNC (His mistake?) to provide Whips.

Trump is out staffed, and amazingly they may have even raised more money than he did last month.  Therein is your problem, your candidate is not running a good General Election Campaign and is going to fail to even get to the General Election because of it.

So there is going to be someone else. But here is some news for you. You can choose who that someone else will be. If you want Jeb Bush you will get Jeb Bush. If you want Christie you will get Christie. That is how much power you have. The establishment will be satisfied if you choose any of theirs (Though Christie is not any of theirs anymore he does love to follow, they expect to run circles around him).

You can even seek a few concessions. Oh there is only one candidate which will get you a wall, but they won't want you voting for that guy. Instead choose Walker for instance to get amnesty for the illegal aliens. At least he is tough on Unions right? If you do not like that choice then maybe you can choose Lindsey Graham for his strong military beliefs and his willingness to get into war with many nations we don’t need to get into war with. Only Lindsey and one other candidate were really serious about growing the military, but they won't be happy with that other candidate.

Maybe you can pick Rand Paul. Sure he ran a lackluster campaign with no real fundraising, but man did he keep going well after the evidence showed he was unable to win! A real fighter never gives up right?

Ok so maybe Rands not your choice, we still have Huckabee or Santorum. Big government, big religion, socialists cant be wrong right? They have God telling them what to do after all? Oh... It seems you're not impressed. Well there is one who does not act as if God talks to him, but instead is merely inspired by God, but the establishment does not want you voting for him.

Jeb Bush, I did mention him right? You can choose him. He would of course give us unto the NWO in total, just as Hillary would, but maybe it will be your version of the NWO? Ok maybe not. But there was one who was accused often of helping the NWO when evidence showed he was actually fighting it, destroying its dreams. But the establishment does not want you to vote for him.

But there is a brokered choice. Mitt Romney desperately wants chance number two. And he is filthy rich as well right? So what if he keeps Obamacare in place, and brings the flavor of the deep North East to everything. Oh, I can see you frown.

Well the Establishment will welcome you to vote for any of their candidates who will suddenly seem viable again. They will wine and dine you, and when they have made you into a cheap one night stand to support their candidate they will dump you to the side like some sort of trailer trash.

But you have the power to choose any candidate except Trump, you really do. Your 451 won’t get the win, but you can decide the win between the Establishment, or that guy they don’t want you to vote for. Definitely they do not want you voting for him. Even though Cruz will build a wall, will keep his word, will not betray you like a cheap date, will make America Great... they want you to look away, to listen to those carefully crafted lies they made.

And the Democrat infiltrators in your ranks, the ones that make you question what is going on at times... Those people who post ad naseum and in weird ways. They will also try to tell you to vote for some establishment hack. Heck they will even tell you to vote for Hillary. I tell you however, that the power is yours to choose anyone you want. That person will win, for better or for worse. You have that power.

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Re: All delegates are unbound
« Reply #128 on: July 12, 2016, 03:54:53 pm »
^^^ This!

This entire election has a very "SuperBowl" feel to it, complete with trash-talking fans and (dare I say it?) deflated balls.
:silly: I just used that on my facebook wall/status.  Hope ya don't mind.

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Re: All delegates are unbound
« Reply #129 on: July 12, 2016, 04:00:26 pm »
 :thumbsup2:
:silly: I just used that on my facebook wall/status.  Hope ya don't mind.
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Re: All delegates are unbound
« Reply #130 on: July 12, 2016, 04:14:07 pm »
That is your intrepretation of things, not what is, but what you want it to be. We will not know till it plays out at convention.

You don't have the experience or knowledge to even know what you're talking about, and maybe you should stop acting as if you do.
I deny your allegations about me of what you have no knowledge of.
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Re: All delegates are unbound
« Reply #131 on: July 12, 2016, 04:19:00 pm »
I deny your allegations about me of what you have no knowledge of.

Which is a nice dodge but a sad tactic, and changes nothing. You're trying to sound authoritative when you are not, what you have is a boat load of interpretation and speculation.
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