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Re: Genealogy - Getting to Know your Heritage
« Reply #150 on: December 08, 2017, 08:50:23 pm »
Living DNA includes all tests, for $99. Y-DNA, mt-DNA, Autosomal

It is a UK based company, but labs and facilities in America too.

https://www.livingdna.com/en-us

They claim to provide the finest granularity (detailed breakdown) for European regional origins.

Most others around $50-80 are only Autosomal.

An interesting resource for dna and genealogy

https://www.eupedia.com/
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« Reply #151 on: December 08, 2017, 09:00:47 pm »
I'm seriously thinking of doing an dna test..

If you're ever going to do it now is the time!  Some GREAT deals going right now!  https://www.familytreedna.com/products
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« Reply #153 on: December 11, 2017, 06:36:15 pm »
@Bigun
Thoughts?
http://www.cracked.com/personal-experiences-2522-inside-shady-world-dna-testing-companies.html

I used both 23&me and MyHeritage's DNA testing service. In addition to all the stuff I already knew I found out I'm either a bit A) Central American or B) South Asian. And a little Neanderthal.

Left me with more questions than answers, really.


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Re: Genealogy - Getting to Know your Heritage
« Reply #154 on: December 11, 2017, 06:38:23 pm »
@Bigun
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http://www.cracked.com/personal-experiences-2522-inside-shady-world-dna-testing-companies.html

Do yur own research and select from well known reputable firms. Look at their output formats, first.

They give differing degrees of regional and ethnic "granularity," or detail.
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« Reply #155 on: December 11, 2017, 07:46:43 pm »
@Bigun
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http://www.cracked.com/personal-experiences-2522-inside-shady-world-dna-testing-companies.html

@Suppressed

This is one of the BIG reasons I only recommend Family Tree DNA. https://www.familytreedna.com/  They are relatively local to me (In Houston) and have the best reputation in the business or so I'm told by the geneticists I'm personally acquainted with one of whom taught genetics at our local University for many years.   

I've also been told by experts that some of the other firms have been known to employ people  not qualified to do the testing properly.

The big problems of late have all been with European firms and involve people didling with results for obvious political reasons. They got caught so someone is obviously watching even there.
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« Reply #156 on: December 11, 2017, 08:04:50 pm »
@Suppressed

This is one of the BIG reasons I only recommend Family Tree DNA. https://www.familytreedna.com/  They are relatively local to me (In Houston) and have the best reputation in the business or so I'm told by the geneticists I'm personally acquainted with one of whom taught genetics at our local University for many years.   

I've also been told by experts that some of the other firms have been known to employ people  not qualified to do the testing properly.

The big problems of late have all been with European firms and involve people didling with results for obvious political reasons. They got caught so someone is obviously watching even there.

They are the best technically, but their on-line tools for finding matches sucks.   I use both FTDNA and Ancestry.
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« Reply #157 on: December 11, 2017, 08:07:18 pm »
They are the best technically, but their on-line tools for finding matches sucks.   I use both FTDNA and Ancestry.

So do I and GEDmatch.com as well.
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« Reply #158 on: December 23, 2017, 12:41:49 pm »
If anyone is interested in personal Genealogy Software, the best there is (Roots Magic) is running a GREAT Holiday special right now!

http://www.rootsmagic.com/holidayoffer/?mc_cid=d749bca75a&mc_eid=2f25b9b5ee
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« Reply #159 on: December 29, 2017, 03:49:00 pm »
I got my Ancestry.com DNA results. No "native American" at all, despite family lore that my great-great-great-great grandpa's wife was of that ethnicity. So that's something I have in common with Sen. Lizzy Warren, anyway. We're both white bread.  :pondering:
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« Reply #160 on: December 29, 2017, 05:22:41 pm »
I got my Ancestry.com DNA results. No "native American" at all, despite family lore that my great-great-great-great grandpa's wife was of that ethnicity. So that's something I have in common with Sen. Lizzy Warren, anyway. We're both white bread.  :pondering:

So I have to stop calling you Pocahontas, then??

(How about Sacajawea?.............. she was really cool!)
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« Reply #161 on: December 29, 2017, 06:56:29 pm »
Yeah, me heap disappointed.
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« Reply #162 on: December 29, 2017, 08:31:52 pm »
Yeah, me heap disappointed.

You left out "kimo sabe"  ^-^
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« Reply #163 on: December 29, 2017, 10:00:07 pm »
Huh.
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Character still matters.  It always matters.

I wear a mask as an exercise in liberty and love for others.  To see it as an infringement of liberty is to entirely miss the point.  Be kind.

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« Reply #165 on: December 29, 2017, 11:13:33 pm »
If anyone is interested in personal Genealogy Software, the best there is (Roots Magic) is running a GREAT Holiday special right now!

http://www.rootsmagic.com/holidayoffer/?mc_cid=d749bca75a&mc_eid=2f25b9b5ee

Why do you say they're the best, @Bigun?

I used to use Legacy because it had great source tracking, then Family Tree Maker for output.  I'm wondering whether I'd like this one better.
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« Reply #166 on: December 30, 2017, 10:45:02 am »
Why do you say they're the best, @Bigun?

I used to use Legacy because it had great source tracking, then Family Tree Maker for output.  I'm wondering whether I'd like this one better.

@Suppressed

I like the way RootsMagic interfaces with Ancestry and Family search. Very useful in helping to keep up databases in multiple locations and for doing research.

Their holiday offer ends Jan. 2nd. You can get $90 dollars worth of their software for $25 right now.
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« Reply #167 on: December 30, 2017, 10:53:12 am »
I grew up in the New Orleans sewers. My mother was an alligator, and my father was a possum. I grew up the hard way. You know, like all possum/alligator people grow up. I learned to survive.


Man, this crawdaddy, he was so close and so good to eat. I couldn't grab him in enough time. I tried! I grabbed him! The sewer wash just took him away. My daddy never forgave me for that. I will take it to my grave.


Never go to the family reunions. Not concerned with who eats whom. Not my problem. Anymore.....

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« Reply #168 on: December 30, 2017, 02:40:41 pm »
I grew up in the New Orleans sewers. My mother was an alligator, and my father was a possum. I grew up the hard way. You know, like all possum/alligator people grow up. I learned to survive.


Man, this crawdaddy, he was so close and so good to eat. I couldn't grab him in enough time. I tried! I grabbed him! The sewer wash just took him away. My daddy never forgave me for that. I will take it to my grave.


Never go to the family reunions. Not concerned with who eats whom. Not my problem. Anymore.....

That explains a lot.

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« Reply #169 on: December 30, 2017, 03:21:28 pm »
That explains a lot.
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« Reply #170 on: January 16, 2018, 05:40:06 pm »
How DNA Testing Botched My Family's Heritage, and Probably Yours, Too

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My grandfather was caramel-skinned with black eyes and thick, dark hair, and until he discovered that he was adopted, he had no reason to suspect that he was not the son of two poor Mexicans as he’d always been told. When he found his adoption papers, according to family lore, he pestered the nuns at the Dallas orphanage where he had lived as an infant for the name of his birth mother. Name in hand, at 10 years old, he hopped a bus to Pennsylvania, met his birth mother, and found out that he was actually Syrian.

At least that’s what we thought until my Aunt Cat mailed a tube of her spit in to AncestryDNA.

More... https://gizmodo.com/how-dna-testing-botched-my-familys-heritage-and-probab-1820932637

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« Reply #171 on: January 17, 2018, 09:16:53 am »
How DNA Testing Botched My Family's Heritage, and Probably Yours, Too

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My grandfather was caramel-skinned with black eyes and thick, dark hair, and until he discovered that he was adopted, he had no reason to suspect that he was not the son of two poor Mexicans as he’d always been told. When he found his adoption papers, according to family lore, he pestered the nuns at the Dallas orphanage where he had lived as an infant for the name of his birth mother. Name in hand, at 10 years old, he hopped a bus to Pennsylvania, met his birth mother, and found out that he was actually Syrian.

At least that’s what we thought until my Aunt Cat mailed a tube of her spit in to AncestryDNA.

More... https://gizmodo.com/how-dna-testing-botched-my-familys-heritage-and-probab-1820932637

Thanks for posting this @endicom

As someone who is adopted and knows next to nothing about bio parents, I've been thinking about this a lot since my dad died. But I've come to the conclusion it would be sort of like oedipus. It's better not to know.
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« Reply #172 on: January 17, 2018, 09:30:06 am »
Thanks for posting this @endicom

As someone who is adopted and knows next to nothing about bio parents, I've been thinking about this a lot since my dad died. But I've come to the conclusion it would be sort of like oedipus. It's better not to know.

I agree with your line of thinking @Freya.  Why would you go looking for some now dead person who never played any part in your life at all?  I know there are many who do not see it that way and want to know what their actual bloodlines are. My wife for example. 

I got DNA testing done to clear up some controversy as to the actual line of decent on my father's side and that worked well for me.  I've told my wife's story elsewhere on this thread already so I won't repeat it here except to say that she would NEVER have known who her biological father was without DNA testing.  If you ever do decide to do that, the absolute best company to go with is http://www.familytreedna.com their integrity is above reproach.

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« Reply #173 on: January 17, 2018, 09:41:42 am »
Thanks for posting this @endicom   As someone who is adopted and knows next to nothing about bio parents, I've been thinking about this a lot since my dad died. But I've come to the conclusion it would be sort of like oedipus. It's better not to know.
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I have been meaning to do this DNA thingy.  My great grandfather, according to family, married an Indian woman from a tribe forced to go to Oklahoma - The Trail of Tears saga.  The tribe stopped in Arkansas before moving on to Oklahoma.  Great grandfather lived in Arkansas.  Some kids of that issue went to Oklahoma to live.  My God, what if I am really a fake Pocahontas?  The first members of my family on both sides to come to America, came from England and were in North and South Carolina.  Some of them, Methodist preachers, went to Arkansas and started Methodist churches.

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« Reply #174 on: January 17, 2018, 09:42:41 am »
Thanks for posting this @endicom

As someone who is adopted and knows next to nothing about bio parents, I've been thinking about this a lot since my dad died. But I've come to the conclusion it would be sort of like oedipus. It's better not to know.


IMO, you can't know, other than for some vague information about the bio-parents. Hell, what you know of your de facto parents can be no more than vague.


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« Reply #175 on: January 17, 2018, 09:54:03 am »
I know my birth mother was European and Jewish. What country? Have no idea. I think the agency said French.

I know nothing about bio dad.

I have blonde hair, blue eyes and pale skin that won't tan. So yes, I am probably double European.
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« Reply #176 on: February 25, 2018, 06:50:10 pm »
I ran across an interesting story, today concerning a family where my father worked for several years. When we moved back from the Rocky Mtn. states, to SoCal in 1955 he went to work for a successful builder in the area.

The mother in this story is the daughter of my father's boss/partner.

It now turns out she had an out of wedlock son, when she was just 16, and he was adopted. People these days are using DNA for relative matching. Ancestry connected mother and son, as they were both willing.

So there was a successful family reunification so-to-speak thanks to DNA and genealogy.

My sister recently had the opportunity to help a woman, relative, learn of her history, too. She lives in White Horse, Yukon Terr. and her daughter lives in Grand Prairie Alberta. The mother had been born in Winnipeg, and knew virtually nothing about her origins.

We were able to tie her into her family roots, in Minnesota, SoDak etc. And with out family.

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« Reply #177 on: February 28, 2018, 10:17:40 am »
@truth_seeker

Wow!

I thought I was on this thread, but I can't find any posts from me.  It may have been when I first came here, and just about lost everything I posted.

I did have my DNA spit test done by Ancestry.com.  I sort of knew what my results would be because I have an original family tree that was handwritten by my grandmother on my mom's side.  Interesting.

My dad's side is far more difficult, although it should be easier.  I have gone back to my great grandfather through Ancestry.com. 

I paid for all European, American and Newspapers for about two years, but I got lazy.  I am still some sort of a member there, but they can so easily block things from you when you are in the mood to play with your ancestry. 

Ancestry.com wants you to put everything you have on Facebook.  I have never been a Facebook member, and probably will never be a member on that site because I just don't like that place. 

I think at some point in time, I will have Ancestry.com just do the whole thing for me.  It is such tedious work, but well worth it if you find something new.

I have read this whole thread, and, thank you, @Bigun for starting this thread.  I might just go to one of the other places.

Oh, @Freya right now Ancestry is doing the spit DNA test for $69.  It is pretty good.  They tell you where your heritage is with only about 2% missing.

I am 100% Northern European.  No famous anyone pops up.  LOL!
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« Reply #178 on: February 28, 2018, 10:25:25 am »
@truth_seeker

Wow!

I thought I was on this thread, but I can't find any posts from me.  It may have been when I first came here, and just about lost everything I posted.

I did have my DNA spit test done by Ancestry.com.  I sort of knew what my results would be because I have an original family tree that was handwritten by my grandmother on my mom's side.  Interesting.

My dad's side is far more difficult, although it should be easier.  I have gone back to my great grandfather through Ancestry.com. 

I paid for all European, American and Newspapers for about two years, but I got lazy.  I am still some sort of a member there, but they can so easily block things from you when you are in the mood to play with your ancestry. 

Ancestry.com wants you to put everything you have on Facebook.  I have never been a Facebook member, and probably will never be a member on that site because I just don't like that place. 

I think at some point in time, I will have Ancestry.com just do the whole thing for me.  It is such tedious work, but well worth it if you find something new.

I have read this whole thread, and, thank you, @Bigun for starting this thread.  I might just go to one of the other places.

Oh, @Freya right now Ancestry is doing the spit DNA test for $69.  It is pretty good.  They tell you where your heritage is with only about 2% missing.

I am 100% Northern European.  No famous anyone pops up.  LOL!

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Glad you like it!  Here's some of what pops up in mine

John Cooke   10th Great Grandfather â–¼   Mayflower
Martha Wayles   1st Cousin 8 times removed â–¼   U.S. Presidents' Wives
Thomas Lynch   2nd Cousin 6 times removed â–¼   Declaration Signers
Francis Cooke   11th Great Grandfather â–¼   Mayflower
Richard Warren   11th Great Grandfather â–¼   Mayflower
Stephen Hopkins   11th Great Grandfather â–¼   Mayflower
Thomas Rogers   11th Great Grandfather â–¼   Mayflower
Thomas Jefferson   2nd Cousin 7 times removed â–¼   Declaration Signers
Thomas Jefferson   2nd Cousin 7 times removed â–¼   U.S. Presidents
Thomas Jefferson 3rd President of the United States   2nd Cousin 7 times removed â–¼   Declaration Signers
Giles Hopkins   11th Great Uncle â–¼   Mayflower
Clarissa Cordelia Moses   4th Cousin 4 times removed â–¼   LDS - Women Auxiliary Leaders
John Calvin Coolidge Jr.   5th Cousin 2 times removed â–¼   U.S. Presidents
John R Cash   6th Cousin â–¼   Entertainers
William Shakespeare   1st Cousin 11 times removed â–¼   Authors & Poets
Carter Braxton   3rd Cousin 7 times removed â–¼   Declaration Signers
Noah Webster   3rd Cousin 7 times removed â–¼   Authors & Poets
John Moses Browning   4th Cousin 5 times removed â–¼   Science and Technology
Ralph Waldo Emerson   4th Cousin 5 times removed â–¼   Authors & Poets
Eliza Babcock Young   5th Cousin 3 times removed â–¼   LDS - Prophets' Wives
Barbara Jean Bradshaw   6th Cousin 1 time removed â–¼   LDS - Women Auxiliary Leaders
Henry Samson   2nd Cousin 10 times removed â–¼   Mayflower
Robert Treat Paine   3rd Cousin 8 times removed â–¼   Declaration Signers
William Ellery   3rd Cousin 8 times removed â–¼   Declaration Signers
Abraham Baldwin   4th Cousin 6 times removed â–¼   Constitution Signers
Ellen Rockwood   5th Cousin 4 times removed â–¼   LDS - Prophets' Wives
Florence Nightingale   5th Cousin 4 times removed â–¼   Science and Technology
Harriet Amelia Prichard Squire   5th Cousin 4 times removed â–¼   LDS - Prophets' Wives
Lydia Farnsworth Young   5th Cousin 4 times removed â–¼   LDS - Prophets' Wives
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Re: Genealogy - Getting to Know your Heritage
« Reply #179 on: February 28, 2018, 10:38:08 am »
@Freya

"I have blonde hair, blue eyes and pale skin that won't tan. So yes, I am probably double European."

My dad had deep blue eyes, and my mom had brown eyes.  In my family of 11 children, three have those deep blue eyes; three have brown; and five have green.  I think that is genetically correct.

Three of us have light olive skin that tans so great.  I am one of those.  We can"t figure where the olive skin emanated.

Then dad had blonde hair and mom had medium dark hair.  Kind of runs the gamut there, too.   I have light brown hair in the winter, then it turns dark blonde in the summer.  There are no red-headed children in my immediate family.  You would think there would be, but, no.

Hope you find out more about your dad.

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« Reply #180 on: February 28, 2018, 10:45:35 am »
@Bigun

Just Zowie!!!  Dang!  You are historically very famous!!!  Well, you are famous in here, too!

I checked the last names, not a one is on my list.  I think the most famous was my great grandfather who was a hog farmer in Iowa!  LOL!  But the man made millions trading corn in the commodities market.  Hogs weren't traded in those days.

So I am from a hog family!

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« Reply #181 on: February 28, 2018, 11:08:57 am »
My ancestry might include King Olaf or Ragnar Lothbrook, but most likely I'm only related to the famous comedy team, Sven and Ollie.  :dx1:
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« Reply #182 on: February 28, 2018, 11:22:54 am »
My ancestry might include King Olaf or Ragnar Lothbrook, but most likely I'm only related to the famous comedy team, Sven and Ollie.  :dx1:

I always wanted to trace mine back to the Sinclair(e) family from Scotland. 

I honestly thought I was about 40% Danish, 40% Scottish and 20% Irish.  Nope,  I don't have it in front of me, but I am 57% Irish, 23% Danish and 18% English, which is Scottish, I guess.

The surnames in my family are all Scottish and Danish.  Go figure.

Sven and Ollie?  LOL!

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« Reply #183 on: February 28, 2018, 11:24:18 am »
I always wanted to trace mine back to the Sinclair(e) family from Scotland. 

I honestly thought I was about 40% Danish, 40% Scottish and 20% Irish.  Nope,  I don't have it in front of me, but I am 57% Irish, 23% Danish and 18% English, which is Scottish, I guess.

The surnames in my family are all Scottish and Danish.  Go figure.

Sven and Ollie?  LOL!

Danish?  Is Ancestry breaking that out of the Scandinavian sub group?  They haven't for me yet.
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« Reply #184 on: February 28, 2018, 11:29:48 am »
Danish?  Is Ancestry breaking that out of the Scandinavian sub group?  They haven't for me yet.

Yes, it said "Danish."  No sub group for English/Scottish, though.
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« Reply #185 on: February 28, 2018, 11:32:26 am »
I always wanted to trace mine back to the Sinclair(e) family from Scotland. 

I honestly thought I was about 40% Danish, 40% Scottish and 20% Irish.  Nope,  I don't have it in front of me, but I am 57% Irish, 23% Danish and 18% English, which is Scottish, I guess.

The surnames in my family are all Scottish and Danish.  Go figure.

Sven and Ollie?  LOL!

What I got was pretty basic, but didn't differentiate between Swedish (which I am, as far back as I know), and the rest of Scandinavia.   It also included lower possibilities in northern Europe, western Russia, Finland and British Isles.

But I figured my Viking ancestors got around, so none of that was surprising.   ^-^
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« Reply #186 on: February 28, 2018, 11:33:16 am »
Yes, it said "Danish."  No sub group for English/Scottish, though.

You must have gotten a more specific report than I got.  Was it from Ancestry.com?
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« Reply #187 on: February 28, 2018, 11:36:32 am »
@catfish1957

Wait, I could be wrong, but I don't think so.  It could be because my surname is Danish.  I should look it up.  If it just said, 'Scandinavian," my brain might have interpreted that into Danish.

I will check soon.  I have two images of it.
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« Reply #188 on: February 28, 2018, 12:18:14 pm »
@catfish1957

You were right!

It shows:  58% Ireland, 26% Great Britain, 13% Scandinavian.

Sorry for being confusing. 

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« Reply #189 on: February 28, 2018, 12:19:54 pm »
When a DNA company "predicts" the location of origin, it can vary widely.

Take a Norse ancestor ("Anders")  from 1100 years ago, that migrated from Norway to England. His body is dug up in England, 2010, his DNA tested, etc. Anders' brother is dug up in Norway, and also tested.

Your DNA is tested, and certain characteristic match with Anders' DNA.

Firm #1 "predicts" your origin to be England (because Anders DNA is in their database)

Firm #2 "predicts" your origin to be Scandinavia (because Anders' brother's DNA is in their database; or alternatively because they classify Anders as Scandinavian))

So keep this and similar situation in mind, regarding the accuracy or "origins," predictions.

I am NOT saying the firms' methods and results are bogus. I AM stating this aspect of DNA is very, very new. Those closest to it know that fact, the best.
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« Reply #190 on: February 28, 2018, 01:14:03 pm »
Here's a couple of mine:

Frances Cooke  9th Great Grandfather
Edward Doty   9th Great Grandfather

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« Reply #191 on: February 28, 2018, 01:34:59 pm »
When a DNA company "predicts" the location of origin, it can vary widely.

Take a Norse ancestor ("Anders")  from 1100 years ago, that migrated from Norway to England. His body is dug up in England, 2010, his DNA tested, etc. Anders' brother is dug up in Norway, and also tested.

Your DNA is tested, and certain characteristic match with Anders' DNA.

Firm #1 "predicts" your origin to be England (because Anders DNA is in their database)

Firm #2 "predicts" your origin to be Scandinavia (because Anders' brother's DNA is in their database; or alternatively because they classify Anders as Scandinavian))

So keep this and similar situation in mind, regarding the accuracy or "origins," predictions.

I am NOT saying the firms' methods and results are bogus. I AM stating this aspect of DNA is very, very new. Those closest to it know that fact, the best.

Thanks, @truth_seeker .  That's very helpful information, and sort of what I suspected.
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« Reply #192 on: February 28, 2018, 01:51:21 pm »
You must have gotten a more specific report than I got.  Was it from Ancestry.com?

On my birth mother's side the Irish finding actually said Connacht.  That surprised me.  Since the family name was Conn I knew it was spot on.

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« Reply #193 on: February 28, 2018, 01:56:36 pm »
I am going to BFL, as I am now sending my Ancestry DNA kit out the week.
I'll let y'all know what I find out.

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« Reply #194 on: February 28, 2018, 02:01:16 pm »
Here's a couple of mine:

Frances Cooke  9th Great Grandfather
Edward Doty   9th Great Grandfather

Looks like we could be related through that Francis Cooke line.
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« Reply #195 on: February 28, 2018, 02:12:36 pm »
I did the Family Tree DNA test.

It shows me as:
British Isles46%
East Europe< 2%
Finland< 2%
Scandinavian13%
West and Central Europe38%

I've also found, via their matching, a 3rd Cousin 1X removed. I expanded my tree to include him.

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« Reply #196 on: February 28, 2018, 02:14:28 pm »

But I figured my Viking ancestors got around, so none of that was surprising.   ^-^

I have luckily been able to trace pretty much (90%) of all my ancestry 1600's- 1700's to Anglo immigrants.  So I was pretty surprised that mine showed 18% Scandinavian when almost all my surnames are English-Scottish - Welsh- Irish extraction.

Vikings were more prevalent than I thought.
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« Reply #197 on: February 28, 2018, 02:14:41 pm »
I did the Family Tree DNA test.

It shows me as:
British Isles46%
East Europe< 2%
Finland< 2%
Scandinavian13%
West and Central Europe38%

I've also found, via their matching, a 3rd Cousin 1X removed. I expanded my tree to include him.

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« Reply #198 on: February 28, 2018, 02:15:54 pm »
Here's mine according to Ancestry.com

 Great Britain 50%
 Europe West 22%
 Scandinavia 13%
 Iberian Peninsula 6%

MyHeritage.com has it


North and West Europe
72.6%
Scandinavian
66.0%
Irish, Scottish, and Welsh
6.6%
South Europe
24.7%
Iberian
19.4%
Italian
5.3%
Middle East
1.8%
Middle East
1.8%
Middle Eastern
1.8%
Africa
0.9%
East Africa
0.9%
Kenyan
0.9%
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« Reply #199 on: February 28, 2018, 03:35:26 pm »
I have luckily been able to trace pretty much (90%) of all my ancestry 1600's- 1700's to Anglo immigrants.  So I was pretty surprised that mine showed 18% Scandinavian when almost all my surnames are English-Scottish - Welsh- Irish extraction.

Vikings were more prevalent than I thought.

I tell ya....... my people went EVERYWHERE.  :laugh:

Seriously - the Swedish Vikings went east to present day Russia, and many settled there.  The Norwegian Vikings went west and clearly spread their seed all over Great Britain as they went.

It's not surprising that most people with European ancestry have some Scandinavian in the mix.

I seriously need to go back farther with my ancestry.  I know that everyone was living in Sweden, or one grandmother in the Swedish part of Finland, as far back as the 18th century, but I haven't gone back any farther than that, and need to do that.

(My brown eyes came from somewhere! LOL!)

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