Trump: GOP Will Become 'Workers Party' 5 Years From Now

[Bill Cipher]

Exactly.  Trump won. Period.  Get over it, #NeverTrump.  Put up or shut up.

[ScottinVA]

Exactly.  Trump won. Period.  Get over it, #NeverTrump.  Put up or shut up.

That was directed at Trump.  Yes, he's the presumptive nominee.. and yes, his uncontrolled mouth will doom him -- and the country -- in the general election.

[Bill Cipher]

That was directed at Trump.  Yes, he's the presumptive nominee.. and yes, his uncontrolled mouth will doom him -- and the country -- in the general election.

Pointed in the wrong direction then.  My apologies for assuming more wisdom than, apparently, there exists.  Trump is the only person who has the guts and the balls to use his mouth to call out all the fraud and evil in this country.

[ScottinVA]

Pointed in the wrong direction then.  My apologies for assuming more wisdom than, apparently, there exists.  Trump is the only person who has the guts and the balls to use his mouth to call out all the fraud and evil in this country.

Guts and balls?  Those guts and balls would be well complemented with some understanding of governance in this country, along with some measure of temperance.  As for wisdom, we'll see who has the wisdom after election day.  Trump will be crushed in what was once a winnable election. 

[Mechanicos]

Guts and balls?  Those guts and balls would be well complemented with some understanding of governance in this country, along with some measure of temperance.  As for wisdom, we'll see who has the wisdom after election day.  Trump will be crushed in what was once a winnable election.

#neverTrump's track record on such predictions of Trump failing so far is 0 out of 1008.

[Bill Cipher]

Guts and balls?  Those guts and balls would be well complemented with some understanding of governance in this country, along with some measure of temperance.  As for wisdom, we'll see who has the wisdom after election day.  Trump will be crushed in what was once a winnable election. 

That's where you're wrong.  Do you think Trump does all the engineering on his buildings?  No, he hires the best and the brightest engineers to do it for him while he focuses on the big picture.  Same with government.  Trump needs guts and balls to tell the truth; the smart guys he'll hire will take care of the rest.  You don't need to be a nerd when you have the money to hire all the nerds you need. 

Trump will make you and all the #NeverTrumps eat those words, by feeding tube. 

[jmyrlefuller]

#neverTrump's track record on such predictions of Trump failing so far is 0 out of 1008.

I'm more scared of what happens if he succeeds.

[ABX]

That's where you're wrong.  Do you think Trump does all the engineering on his buildings?  No, he hires the best and the brightest engineers to do it for him while he focuses on the big picture.....

Actually, more often than not, especially over the past two decades, he just sells the right to use his name on someone else's building and takes credit for it. Recent projcts where he did attempt to keep it in house and 'hire the best and brightest engineers' have been flops because he doesn't hire the best and brightest- see Trump Ocean Resort Baja as a perfect, recent example.

[Maj. Bill Martin]

Delegates can still vote conscious.

Indeed.  Otherwise, they could not vote.

(sorry)

[Cowboyway]

I'm more scared of what happens if he succeeds.

C'mon now.  Trump's a winner!  What's to be afraid of?

Just think of the glorious Worker's Party utopia we'll be enjoying with Chairman Trump in control:

We'll have a yuge, terrific wall right down the middle of the Rio Grande River.

Muslims, Mexicans and other undesirables will be deported.

Manufacturing jobs will flood back into the country after Chairman Trump eliminates all government barriers to business.

Putin will resign in fear and go into hiding in Siberia.

The Arabs will see the writing on the wall and become as harmless as heel hounds.

We'll all be drinking free bubble up and eating rainbow stew.

Trumptopia Forever!

Yee Haw!!!!!!!!

[Bill Cipher]

Actually, more often than not, especially over the past two decades, he just sells the right to use his name on someone else's building and takes credit for it. Recent projcts where he did attempt to keep it in house and 'hire the best and brightest engineers' have been flops because he doesn't hire the best and brightest- see Trump Ocean Resort Baja as a perfect, recent example.

So he leverages the skills of everyone else and ends up with a perfect building.  Sounds pretty divine to me.  Means he'll leverage all the skills in the government to fix what Congress won't and finish with a perfect country. 

[Henry Noel]

It's not Bolshevism because that had an internationalist base.  It's nationalistic and socialistic, and I will leave it at that; those with brains to think and eyes to see will understand. 

Will we tie our shoes in little knotsies?

[RetBobbyMI]

So he leverages the skills of everyone else and ends up with a perfect building.  Sounds pretty divine to me.  Means he'll leverage all the skills in the government to fix what Congress won't and finish with a perfect country.

"Skills in the government"?  Now that is an oxymoron if there ever was, just like Military Intelligence.  A lot (probably a majority) of government workers are out just looking for their next job. They are just suck-ups with no more backbone than a jellyfish. Having observed this phenomena for over 40 years from the inside and outside, I can vouch for it.  They only do what is necessary to make their performance reports look good.

[Henry Noel]

So he leverages the skills of everyone else and ends up with a perfect building.  Sounds pretty divine to me.  Means he'll leverage all the skills in the government to fix what Congress won't and finish with a perfect country. 

We don't need to leverage skills in government. We need to reduce the size and scope of government.

Trump: Better statists for better statism.

[ScottinVA]

That's where you're wrong.  Do you think Trump does all the engineering on his buildings?  No, he hires the best and the brightest engineers to do it for him while he focuses on the big picture.  Same with government.  Trump needs guts and balls to tell the truth; the smart guys he'll hire will take care of the rest.  You don't need to be a nerd when you have the money to hire all the nerds you need. 

Trump will make you and all the #NeverTrumps eat those words, by feeding tube.

You and I both know engineering buildings and governing a country couldn't be more different.  He can focus on the big picture all right, but when the details of that "big picture" muddle themselves even within the words of a single speech, that ability to form a vision for this country and to make good on that vision don't inspire confidence.

As for Trump making people eat words, there seems to be a complete lack of understanding the trump-supporting minority within the minority party doesn't constitute a general-election majority.  I'll be happy to meet right back here and compare notes after Election Day.  A tip for you:  The taste of crow might be best mitigated with a healthy dollop of Sweet Baby Ray's barbecue sauce.

[RetBobbyMI]

A tip for you:  The taste of crow might be best mitigated with a healthy dollop of Sweet Baby Ray's barbecue sauce.
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'If you have to eat s**t, best not to nibble.  Bite, chew, swallow, repeat. It goes quicker.'

[Bill Cipher]

Trump will do what he does best: fire the incompetent and convince the competent to do what needs doing.  He's going to clean house and clean clocks.  It'll make the apprentice look like a warm up. 

[RetBobbyMI]

Trump will do what he does best: fire the incompetent and convince the competent to do what needs doing.  He's going to clean house and clean clocks.  It'll make the apprentice look like a warm up.

Never works with current laws protecting government employees.  Most supervisors won't even take to write-up slacking employees because it causes them too much work and if they did, the fear that having bad workers makes them look bad.

[Maj. Bill Martin]

Trump will do what he does best: fire the incompetent and convince the competent to do what needs doing.  He's going to clean house and clean clocks.  It'll make the apprentice look like a warm up.

The problem is that governing a country isn't just a question of hiring "the best and brightest".  It's not like engineering -- governed by immutable, easily-proven and universally-acknowledged laws of nature.  A guy can be a scumbag and still be great at erecting buildings.  Heck, leftist scumbags like Zuckerberg and Soros have proven that they can build companies worth tens of billions of dollars.

So the critical question in leading a country  isn't "doing what needs doing" as efficiently as possible.  It is the having the right vision of "what needs doing" in the first place -- having someone who not only knows how to get to a destination, but who knows which destination is correct.

That's the problem a lot of us have with Trump.  The casual dismissal of complaints that he's not a conservative, or is not an ideologically-driven guy, gives us zero confidence that he'll be taking us in the right direction at all.  And if we're not going in the right direction, who really cares how efficiently we get there?

[Mechanicos]

Never works with current laws protecting government employees.  Most supervisors won't even take to write-up slacking employees because it causes them too much work and if they did, the fear that having bad workers makes them look bad.

if somebody like Gingrich or Sessions is VP those laws will get changed. Same if war breaks out which is less likely with Trump but still a real possibility with our global situations. 

[austingirl]

"make the Apprentice look like a warm-up"

Yes, being a game show host is the best way to prepare for being POTUS./s

[Bill Cipher]

Trump will pick the best and the brightest to run the agencies and they'll make sure the dead-wood that can't be fired self-fires by assigning them to the worst jobs possible.  He'll clean house; he says he will, and so he will.  As it is said, so let it be done. 

[Maj. Bill Martin]

if somebody like Gingrich or Sessions is VP those laws will get changed. Same if war breaks out which is less likely with Trump but still a real possibility with our global situations.

How will Gingrich or Sessions change those laws?

Look, I'd love to see government civil service protections dumped.  But the resistance in Congress to that would make the pro-choice movement seem like a bunch of pushovers.

[Bill Cipher]

if somebody like Gingrich or Sessions is VP those laws will get changed. Same if war breaks out which is less likely with Trump but still a real possibility with our global situations. 

Absolutely.  And if that won't happen, the president has the tools to make it happen.  All it takes is the guts and balls to use them.  Obama claims he has a pen and a phone; well, Trump has guts and balls. 

[Maj. Bill Martin]

Absolutely.  And if that won't happen, the president has the tools to make it happen.  All it takes is the guts and balls to use them.  Obama claims he has a pen and a phone; well, Trump has guts and balls.

What tools does he have to fire employees in violation of civil service protections?  He'll fire them, then file a grievance, and get reinstated with back pay, backed up by court order if necessary.  Exactly how is he going to stop that with "guts and balls"?