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« Reply #750 on: February 04, 2017, 06:58:30 pm »

Which I'm surprised in how they are portrayed.

Chrisjen Avasarala is the undersecretary of the UN and tortured a belter in the first episode of the show.

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« Reply #751 on: February 04, 2017, 07:05:08 pm »
Chrisjen Avasarala is the undersecretary of the UN and tortured a belter in the first episode of the show.


Correct. Just put a belter on Planet Earth and the Gravity alone would be torture.
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« Reply #752 on: February 04, 2017, 07:08:13 pm »

Two parts of The Expanse I don't like..


1. The UN Controls Planet Earth.. :(
2. Still stuck in the Solar System (well according to the books they will go Interstellar).

I didn't watch the first season.  I've seen what syfy has done to enough series.  But based on the comments here, I started in on season two.  The two things I didn't like:

1) The acting.
2) The "acting".

I think for episode three I'll turn off the sound and turn on CC and read it for myself.

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« Reply #753 on: February 04, 2017, 09:22:10 pm »
Make Doctor Who a black woman? Please don’t: It’s philistine to obsess over diversity in culture.

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Predictable as ever, Doctor’, says the Master in the Doctor Who episode ‘The Deadly Assassin’. In a similar vein, the Guardian has followed the announcement that Peter Capaldi is leaving the series with not one but two articles about how the new Doctor must be a woman, black or preferably both. Because white males are boring! After all, it’s 2017. As the Hitler Youth said to the 19th-century humanists: ‘We don’t think like that anymore.’

Of course, there is nothing wrong with having more women and black people cast in mainstream roles. The more the merrier. But when cultural representation of diversity becomes an end in itself, then it becomes meaningless, a box-ticking exercise that distracts from exploring what stories we want to tell and why.
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« Reply #754 on: February 04, 2017, 10:21:55 pm »
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« Reply #755 on: February 05, 2017, 12:38:30 am »

Correct. Just put a belter on Planet Earth and the Gravity alone would be torture.

Torturing a belter with gravity.


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« Reply #756 on: February 05, 2017, 07:24:16 am »
Well I watched the first two episodes of The Expanse and it is good..

Thanks @kevindavis Got it que'ed up

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« Reply #757 on: February 05, 2017, 07:42:01 am »
Thanks @kevindavis Got it que'ed up

Planning a second watch of the season premier episodes here this morning at 8

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« Reply #758 on: February 06, 2017, 09:31:05 pm »
Planning a second watch of the season premier episodes here this morning at 8

I have looked at five episodes and am lost. I may try again; or maybe rewatch Lost. I could at least follow that story line.

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« Reply #759 on: February 07, 2017, 07:22:54 pm »
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« Reply #760 on: February 08, 2017, 04:56:23 am »
Just finished watching the Galactica reboot series a couple of weeks ago. Hatch was great in both. RIP.
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« Reply #761 on: February 09, 2017, 08:05:16 pm »
Just finished watching the Galactica reboot series a couple of weeks ago. Hatch was great in both. RIP.


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« Reply #765 on: February 17, 2017, 04:33:25 pm »
Star Wars: The Last Jedi

Jedi is plural!

http://www.ign.com/articles/2017/02/17/the-jedi-in-star-wars-the-last-jedis-title-is-plural

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« Reply #766 on: February 17, 2017, 04:57:51 pm »
Star Wars: The Last Jedi

Jedi is plural!

http://www.ign.com/articles/2017/02/17/the-jedi-in-star-wars-the-last-jedis-title-is-plural

Now wouldn't it have been better to name it "Last of the Jedi"??

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« Reply #767 on: February 18, 2017, 02:57:29 am »
Captain's Diary,

Twelve years into our journey, communications with Earth has broken down. As Captain, I proposed a system of internal government for the ship but some of the groups are resistant.

"Just continue to follow the course set forth by the Parliament of Earth, there is no reason to do anything else," Francois Le Pardo, acting head of the French sector told me.

Meanwhile there is rioting on Deck 15, with Ayatollah Mansoor Al- Hamani threatening a holy war if contact with the Mecca Astrological Society is not immediately restored.

The colony ship was designed as a microcosm of Earth and my role as Captain was purely ceremonial as all micromanaging orders are received from our home-world. Were, until me and my friends cut the link, which put us on our own.

Trying to create a semblance of self-rule and liberty on a massive vessel where worker unions, conflicting faith leaders and ethnic factions are the loudest voices is not easy. Plus the fact that none of them care for freedom or making their own choices and prefer the comforting rule from Earth.

I thought I had escaped all the trouble in the world when I won the lottery to become Captain, but it seems to have followed me to the depths of space.

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« Reply #768 on: February 18, 2017, 05:39:27 am »


Meanwhile there is rioting on Deck 15, with Ayatollah Mansoor Al- Hamani threatening a holy war if contact with the Mecca Astrological Society is not immediately restored.



Blow all airlocks on deck 15. Its the only way to be sure.

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« Reply #769 on: February 18, 2017, 07:56:50 am »
Blow all airlocks on deck 15. Its the only way to be sure.

It's quick. Has a nice cleansing effect. It's final. I like it.
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« Reply #770 on: February 18, 2017, 10:46:24 am »

Meanwhile there is rioting on Deck 15, with Ayatollah Mansoor Al- Hamani threatening a holy war if contact with the Mecca Astrological Society is not immediately restored.


All this time I thought you spun parts of the ship to provide artificial gravity.  I just realized it's actually to keep the jihadis off the ship because they can't point to mecca.
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« Reply #771 on: February 18, 2017, 11:15:21 am »
A ship organized in the most PC manner ever and all control is from Earth. The Captain and others basically freed it from Earth's control and then everything hits the fan.

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« Reply #772 on: February 19, 2017, 09:40:42 pm »
Watching the Travelers on Netflix. So far not too bad.
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« Reply #773 on: February 20, 2017, 02:56:58 am »
I want to finish the WIP but my brain keeps wanting to write a short story

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« Reply #774 on: February 23, 2017, 12:47:34 am »
Season 3 episodes for Z Nation up now on Netflix!
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« Reply #775 on: February 23, 2017, 08:30:28 pm »
Well so far I'm enjoying the current season of The Expanse..
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« Reply #776 on: February 23, 2017, 08:34:50 pm »
Well so far I'm enjoying the current season of The Expanse..

Yup.

I bet the space Mormons are pissed.

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« Reply #778 on: February 26, 2017, 10:51:18 am »
I watch an odd one this week that I'm still pondering and trying to decide if I liked it.

Snowpiercer

It begins with the premise that global warming alarmists attempted to correct the climate and ended up causing a global ice age that wiped out most of the life on the planet. The remaining humans live on a many miles long train that travels a snaking 440,000 mile route around the globe every year. Naturally the "scum" live in squalor in the end of the train while the classy people live in luxury in the front.

Its a Korean made movie with some big American/British stars. (Chris Evans, Ed Harris, John Hurt, Tilda Swinton, Jamie Bell, Octavia Spencer) I'm not even sure it made it into American theaters.

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« Reply #779 on: February 26, 2017, 01:00:04 pm »
I thought it was OK. Nothing great but not terrible. I'm afraid that "not terrible" has been my guide for sci-fi movies for several years.
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« Reply #780 on: February 26, 2017, 01:05:52 pm »
I saw that one @Cripplecreek. I gave it a thumbs down, too irrational.
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« Reply #781 on: February 26, 2017, 01:15:00 pm »
I saw that one @Cripplecreek. I gave it a thumbs down, too irrational.

The need for humanity to live on a train to survive didn't make any sense to me. There are plenty of places underground that could have sustained the people.

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« Reply #782 on: February 26, 2017, 01:57:07 pm »
I liked it.

Remember the extremely weird rich guy built the train before the world ended.

He was a prepper.

Not sure why it always has to keep moving though.

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« Reply #783 on: February 26, 2017, 01:57:44 pm »
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« Reply #784 on: February 27, 2017, 11:41:29 pm »
Yup.

I bet the space Mormons are pissed.


I bet they are.. The past episode was excellent.
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« Reply #786 on: March 03, 2017, 07:36:29 pm »
Normally after a very good episode the next episode tends to stink.. Not The Expanse.
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« Reply #787 on: March 03, 2017, 07:45:10 pm »
Normally after a very good episode the next episode tends to stink.. Not The Expanse.

Definitely some of the best TV SciFi we've seen in years.

I liked the little side story on the Eisenberg Drive.

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« Reply #788 on: March 03, 2017, 07:45:35 pm »
Normally after a very good episode the next episode tends to stink.. Not The Expanse.
That show caught my interest early on, with decent space opera effects, good sets, and a decent plot. I have not been disappointed yet.
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« Reply #789 on: March 03, 2017, 07:53:16 pm »

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I liked it from the beginning.. As someone who is the big fan of RDM BSG, I think The Expanse has the potential to top it.


This is something that SyFy should have been doing...


As for the side story I liked it too as well..
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« Reply #790 on: March 03, 2017, 07:54:00 pm »
That show caught my interest early on, with decent space opera effects, good sets, and a decent plot. I have not been disappointed yet.

I love the battle scenes. They don't play with lasers. Chain guns, rail guns and missiles.

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« Reply #791 on: March 03, 2017, 07:56:07 pm »
I love the battle scenes. They don't play with lasers. Chain guns, rail guns and missiles.


Sometimes I like this simple things in SciFi instead of Warp Speed, Transporters, Aliens, and so on.
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« Reply #792 on: March 03, 2017, 07:57:08 pm »

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I also see The Expanse as our future in the short term. I just hope the UN isn't running things here on Earth.
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« Reply #794 on: March 03, 2017, 08:06:06 pm »
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I also see The Expanse as our future in the short term. I just hope the UN isn't running things here on Earth.
I think that is one of the things that appeals. This is technologically do-able in the foreseeable future, and conflicts are inevitable. Intrigue is part of human nature, with or without the protomolecule. There is always something to fight over, whether it is economics, control freak-dom (still economic roots), or resources.

I hope we can get rid of the UN, but if the alternative is something like Venus of Dreams (Muslim dominated), I'd rather still be squabbling with the socialists than dominated by Islam.

When I consider we should have been there, doing that already, it is sad that the progs got so much traction when they did. Advances in materials tech and computing may well help us get out there, though, just 50 years too late for my liking.
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« Reply #795 on: March 03, 2017, 08:15:03 pm »
I think that is one of the things that appeals. This is technologically do-able in the foreseeable future, and conflicts are inevitable. Intrigue is part of human nature, with or without the protomolecule. There is always something to fight over, whether it is economics, control freak-dom (still economic roots), or resources.

I hope we can get rid of the UN, but if the alternative is something like Venus of Dreams (Muslim dominated), I'd rather still be squabbling with the socialists than dominated by Islam.

When I consider we should have been there, doing that already, it is sad that the progs got so much traction when they did. Advances in materials tech and computing may well help us get out there, though, just 50 years too late for my liking.


As much I like Star Trek, the main problem I have to that it was too perfect  (well I would have to say TNG was way to perfect).


When it comes to the Progs, they are the most anti space travel group in my lifetime.  I think the computing power will help us conquer the solar system and then Interstellar Travel..

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« Reply #796 on: March 03, 2017, 08:18:38 pm »
I think that is one of the things that appeals. This is technologically do-able in the foreseeable future, and conflicts are inevitable. Intrigue is part of human nature, with or without the protomolecule. There is always something to fight over, whether it is economics, control freak-dom (still economic roots), or resources.

I hope we can get rid of the UN, but if the alternative is something like Venus of Dreams (Muslim dominated), I'd rather still be squabbling with the socialists than dominated by Islam.

When I consider we should have been there, doing that already, it is sad that the progs got so much traction when they did. Advances in materials tech and computing may well help us get out there, though, just 50 years too late for my liking.

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Re: The Sci-Fi, Fantasy, Spy, and Superhero Genre
« Reply #797 on: March 03, 2017, 08:21:37 pm »
Earth and mars fighting over the belt and its resources, the belters want independence from both. The Outer Planets Alliance is loosely aligned with the belt because Together the don't need the inner planets. And the Mormons are saying screw all you guys, we're outta here.


Would you blame the Mormons??
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Re: The Sci-Fi, Fantasy, Spy, and Superhero Genre
« Reply #798 on: March 03, 2017, 09:19:49 pm »

Would you blame the Mormons??
No, but with their ship gone, they're gonna be pissed!
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