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Re: The Sci-Fi, Fantasy, Spy, and Superhero Genre
« Reply #850 on: March 30, 2017, 10:23:36 pm »
@Sanguine , @Cripplecreek , thanks for responding!

That certainly is a good one.  ^-^

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« Reply #851 on: March 30, 2017, 10:30:37 pm »
It's not Bob Wills, but it is good.

'kay... I would start an argument, but this probably isn't the right thread for it.   :nometalk:   :laugh:
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« Reply #852 on: March 30, 2017, 10:34:43 pm »
It's not Bob Wills, but it is good.

I just find old country music to be very appropriate in sci fi with a tie to earth. The opening scene of the Defiance series had Nolan and his adopted alien daughter singing along to Johnny and June Cash "Jackson"


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« Reply #853 on: March 30, 2017, 10:37:57 pm »
I just find old country music to be very appropriate in sci fi with a tie to earth. The opening scene of the Defiance series had Nolan and his adopted alien daughter singing along to Johnny and June Cash "Jackson"


https://vimeo.com/153348460


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« Reply #854 on: March 30, 2017, 10:39:27 pm »
'kay... I would start an argument, but this probably isn't the right thread for it.   :nometalk:   :laugh:

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« Reply #855 on: March 30, 2017, 10:48:34 pm »

or this:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKIK5ei_Lhg

I would take a pretty eclectic collection to space. Stevie Ray Vaughn, Megadeth, Johnny Cash, White Zombie, etc

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« Reply #856 on: March 30, 2017, 11:30:06 pm »
Just for interest.


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« Reply #857 on: March 30, 2017, 11:41:04 pm »
'kay... I would start an argument, but this probably isn't the right thread for it.   :nometalk:   :laugh:

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« Reply #859 on: March 31, 2017, 08:09:25 am »
Liked country with my sci fi ever since Dark Star. It just fits.
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« Reply #860 on: March 31, 2017, 01:39:38 pm »

Rainn Wilson, whose best-known character, Dwight Schute, fell for dozens of pranks on The Office, will be the one doing the fooling in CBS All Access' upcoming Star Trek: Discovery.


On Friday, CBS announced that the 51-year-old Wilson has signed up to play Harry Mudd, a "charismatic conman and intergalactic criminal" in the latest Star Trek TV project, expected in late summer of fall.


Wilson is a three-time Emmy nominee for his work as the Office's irascible, beet-farming, wannabe autocrat.


Look for Mudd, who sounds a bit like The Next Generation's Q (John de Lancie), to tangle with the Discovery's Captain Lorca, who will be played by Harry Potter alumnus Jason Isaacs and his second-in-command, Lt. Cmdr Rainsford  (Sonequa Martin-Green, The Walking Dead).


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« Reply #861 on: March 31, 2017, 06:29:25 pm »
Liked country with my sci fi ever since Dark Star. It just fits.


For once I would like see Star Fleet Captain listen to some country music..
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« Reply #862 on: March 31, 2017, 06:45:23 pm »

For once I would like see Star Fleet Captain listen to some country music..

Earth music makes kind of a connection to Earth. (Rocinante captain Alex is Martian but its close enough)

Music was one of the cool things about Defiance. Too bad they screwed that show up with too much interpersonal BS. It had such potential.

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« Reply #863 on: March 31, 2017, 06:52:12 pm »
Earth music makes kind of a connection to Earth. (Rocinante captain Alex is Martian but its close enough)

Music was one of the cool things about Defiance. Too bad they screwed that show up with too much interpersonal BS. It had such potential.


True, I just can't see a Vulcan listening to Johnny Cash... But on Earth a Vulcan did like I Love Lucy...


That is correct. It makes a connection to Earth.


They cut the budget in Defiance, I agree about the music was one of the cool things. However, the last song and ending in Defiance was perfect. Would you go on a ship with a bunch of aliens that could eat you alive but still go into space.. I would..
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« Reply #864 on: March 31, 2017, 09:34:21 pm »

I've always liked when they put old country music in sci fi. For some reason it always seems right.

A tradition going back a long ways!


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« Reply #865 on: March 31, 2017, 09:43:11 pm »
Cool, the site posted the video. Not Hank Williams singing but a very passable cover.

http://www.syfy.com/theexpanse/videos/so-lonesome-i-could-cry
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« Reply #867 on: March 31, 2017, 09:48:54 pm »
Cool, the site posted the video. Not Hank Williams singing but a very passable cover.

http://www.syfy.com/theexpanse/videos/so-lonesome-i-could-cry


I tweeted that video over to Hank Jr and Hank 3..
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« Reply #871 on: April 04, 2017, 06:15:52 pm »
Well if you want to watch Babylon 5:


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I have all of B5 on "old fashioned" DVD.  But I notice that that service also offers the show Almost Human, which was one of the best SF series of recent vintage IMHO. Cancelled by Fox before they could finish the first season, of course.   :shrug:
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« Reply #872 on: April 04, 2017, 06:32:43 pm »
I have all of B5 on "old fashioned" DVD.  But I notice that that service also offers the show Almost Human, which was one of the best SF series of recent vintage IMHO. Cancelled by Fox before they could finish the first season, of course.   :shrug:


To be honest I miss Babylon 5.
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You know, pretty much nobody but SJWs cares about the Hugos anymore.  Now the Dragon awards...
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« Reply #876 on: April 06, 2017, 10:02:08 am »
You know, pretty much nobody but SJWs cares about the Hugos anymore.  Now the Dragon awards...

Yeah, sadly I'm inclined to agree with you on the part about the Hugo's prestige being largely a thing of the past. The last recipient of the Hugo that I had any use for was Gene Wolfe.
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« Reply #877 on: April 06, 2017, 11:13:35 am »
Yeah, sadly I'm inclined to agree with you on the part about the Hugo's prestige being largely a thing of the past. The last recipient of the Hugo that I had any use for was Gene Wolfe.

Not sadly for me.  The SJWs in SF fandom have done it to themselves, and good riddance I say.  The WorldCon is an institution that is fast dying anyway, as the SJWs destroy it from within.  DragonCon is far and away larger and more inclusive.  And their Dragon Awards are much better at displaying widely-approved favorites:

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« Reply #878 on: April 06, 2017, 08:42:07 pm »
Am I the only who thinks The Expanse is better than the RDM Version of Battlestar Galactica or is it to early?
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« Reply #879 on: April 06, 2017, 09:08:29 pm »
Am I the only who thinks The Expanse is better than the RDM Version of Battlestar Galactica or is it to early?

I thought BSG started off excellent, but by the end of the series I was skipping episodes.  I can't see Expanse ever improving to the same neighborhood of the first season of BSG, but I can see it ending up being a better series overall.
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« Reply #880 on: April 06, 2017, 09:15:09 pm »
I thought BSG started off excellent, but by the end of the series I was skipping episodes.  I can't see Expanse ever improving to the same neighborhood of the first season of BSG, but I can see it ending up being a better series overall.


I agree, BSG started out good then at the end it was Ok. To me the last half of the season four was rushed.   I think The Expanse is getting better.
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« Reply #881 on: April 06, 2017, 09:37:43 pm »

I agree, BSG started out good then at the end it was Ok. To me the last half of the season four was rushed.   I think The Expanse is getting better.

The expanse is good because it isn't overly futuristic. A couple of solid leaps of technology and we could easily be there 200 years from now or sooner.

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« Reply #882 on: April 06, 2017, 09:52:42 pm »
The expanse is good because it isn't overly futuristic. A couple of solid leaps of technology and we could easily be there 200 years from now or sooner.


I think sooner.. Also, I hope the UN isn't running things..
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« Reply #886 on: April 10, 2017, 11:42:21 am »
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In recent months, The Handmaid’s Tale — Margaret Atwood’s 1985 dystopian novel about a patriarchal future where fertile women are a tightly controlled commodity — has become more of a symbol than a piece of fiction. From a “Make Margaret Atwood Fiction Again” sign at a protest to women protesting a restrictive abortion law in costume, it offers a form of protest that cuts straight to the misogynist thread in American populism. Hulu, which will premiere an adaptation of The Handmaid’s Tale on April 26th, couldn’t have asked for better publicity.

But The Handmaid’s Tale is more than a political jab. In the first three episodes provided to reviewers, it’s a dystopia that manages to stand out in a television landscape already full of apocalypses and oppressive imaginary societies. It’s a colorful TV series about a woman negotiating domestic drama, and judging from its initial installments — all three of which will be released simultaneously on April 26th — it might be one of the darkest shows on television this year.

In both book and series, The Handmaid’s Tale takes place in the near future — in the book, the 1980s, and on the show, in the late 2010s. A fertility crisis has paved the way for Christian fundamentalists to seize power in the United States, founding a rigidly patriarchal theocracy called Gilead. Under Gilead’s police state, households are composed of high-status Wives; domestic Marthas; and the titular Handmaids, fertile women who are forced to bear children through ritualized sexual encounters with the household’s male “Commander.” One of those women is Offred (Mad Men’s Elisabeth Moss), an ordinary 21st century working woman who’s now living in a surreal nightmare.
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« Reply #889 on: April 14, 2017, 01:11:45 pm »
Could never get into the novel.  :shrug:
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Yeah... more leftist "grey goo" that I won't be watching.

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Mystery Science Theater 3000 returns: Watch the first trailer

In the not too distant future — April 14, to be exact — Mystery Science Theater 3000, the beloved cult TV show, will make its triumphant return to Netflix for a 12 14-episode run.

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The new season also brings with it a brand new cast to the Satellite of Love, including Jonah Ray as the next unfortunate human test subject, Patton Oswalt as TV’s Son of TV’s Frank, and Felicia Day as Kinga Forrester.

MST3K is back thanks to one of the most-funded Kickstarters of all time. The campaign to bring back MST3K, led by the show’s creator and original host Joel Hodgson, raised more than $5.7 million.
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« Reply #891 on: April 14, 2017, 01:25:00 pm »
Could never get into the novel.  :shrug:
I am no fan of oppressive cultures, especially when they seem crafted to push an agenda. The story may be much older than the adaptation, but I'm not just attracted to another 'oppressive rich and powerful straight (AKA: "misogynistic") whiteman' style diatribe, regardless of the garb within which it is clad. If I want that crap, the TeeVee is already lousy with it. There's plenty of dystopia to watch without it.
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Re: The Sci-Fi, Fantasy, Spy, and Superhero Genre
« Reply #892 on: April 14, 2017, 01:26:40 pm »
Some oppressive cultures in sci fi are done well, others not so much. Atwood, though, was just boring.
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Re: The Sci-Fi, Fantasy, Spy, and Superhero Genre
« Reply #893 on: April 14, 2017, 01:30:57 pm »
Some oppressive cultures in sci fi are done well, others not so much.
True enough, and they make for some good story lines. After all, where would the Jedhi be without the Dark Side?
But those crafted to push an agenda (or stolen to do so) are just present day identity politics in a commercial cloak, and I find that tedious. It's everywhere, boring (as you said), predictable, and typecasts my demographic as something it is not.
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Re: The Sci-Fi, Fantasy, Spy, and Superhero Genre
« Reply #894 on: April 14, 2017, 01:47:17 pm »
True enough, and they make for some good story lines. After all, where would the Jedhi be without the Dark Side?
But those crafted to push an agenda (or stolen to do so) are just present day identity politics in a commercial cloak, and I find that tedious. It's everywhere, boring (as you said), predictable, and typecasts my demographic as something it is not.

One of the reasons I'm watching more anime than ever, is that the pervasive leftism present in most Western drama is almost absent in most anime productions. Sure, you still run across some, usually of the "corporations are evil" or "we must protect the environment" forms, but for the most part I end up spending more time puzzling out some Japanese cultural reference than I do worrying about getting slapped in the face with what an evil cis-gendered white male I am.   :shrug:
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Re: The Sci-Fi, Fantasy, Spy, and Superhero Genre
« Reply #895 on: April 14, 2017, 01:47:56 pm »
True enough, and they make for some good story lines. After all, where would the Jedhi be without the Dark Side?
But those crafted to push an agenda (or stolen to do so) are just present day identity politics in a commercial cloak, and I find that tedious. It's everywhere, boring (as you said), predictable, and typecasts my demographic as something it is not.

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Re: The Sci-Fi, Fantasy, Spy, and Superhero Genre
« Reply #896 on: April 14, 2017, 02:03:05 pm »
In both book and series, The Handmaid’s Tale takes place in the near future — in the book, the 1980s, and on the show, in the late 2010s. A fertility crisis has paved the way for Christian fundamentalists to seize power in the United States, founding a rigidly patriarchal theocracy called Gilead. Under Gilead’s police state, households are composed of high-status Wives; domestic Marthas; and the titular Handmaids, fertile women who are forced to bear children through ritualized sexual encounters with the household’s male “Commander.” One of those women is Offred (Mad Men’s Elisabeth Moss), an ordinary 21st century working woman who’s now living in a surreal nightmare.

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Re: The Sci-Fi, Fantasy, Spy, and Superhero Genre
« Reply #897 on: April 14, 2017, 06:19:23 pm »
Not sadly for me.  The SJWs in SF fandom have done it to themselves, and good riddance I say.  The WorldCon is an institution that is fast dying anyway, as the SJWs destroy it from within.  DragonCon is far and away larger and more inclusive.  And their Dragon Awards are much better at displaying widely-approved favorites:

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Re: The Sci-Fi, Fantasy, Spy, and Superhero Genre
« Reply #898 on: April 14, 2017, 06:20:31 pm »
Am I the only who thinks The Expanse is better than the RDM Version of Battlestar Galactica or is it to early?

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Ok,I am guessing Expanse is a series on the sci-fi channel?
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Re: The Sci-Fi, Fantasy, Spy, and Superhero Genre
« Reply #899 on: April 14, 2017, 06:23:49 pm »
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Social Justice Warrior. Young earnest idiots with mush between their ears, mostly.
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