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Re: The Sci-Fi, Fantasy, Spy, and Superhero Genre
« Reply #700 on: January 09, 2017, 01:04:22 pm »
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« Reply #701 on: January 10, 2017, 06:10:08 pm »
If you haven't seen Season One of The Expanse, don't look at it:



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« Reply #702 on: January 11, 2017, 08:53:13 pm »
The best Warp Effect in Star Trek..



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« Reply #703 on: January 11, 2017, 10:08:47 pm »
If you haven't seen Season One of The Expanse, don't look at it:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ivej0OW7WZk

Mid season (1) semi binge watching the Expanse.

Show itself so far I give a "5", but the effects are outstanding.
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« Reply #704 on: January 13, 2017, 02:51:00 am »
If you haven't seen Season One of The Expanse, don't look at it:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ivej0OW7WZk
That was cute.

If you haven't seen this one, give it a look.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAeNiO9sa7A
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« Reply #705 on: January 13, 2017, 07:58:22 am »
That was cute.

If you haven't seen this one, give it a look.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAeNiO9sa7A


I did see it and I liked it..
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« Reply #709 on: January 16, 2017, 09:16:43 pm »
Apparently Doctor Smith was an afterthought.


I guess so.. I saw it in repeats and I thought that Season 3 started out good then it went downhill..
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« Reply #710 on: January 17, 2017, 09:37:34 am »
I thought this a very good movie (fantasy/mythology genre).


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4-6qJzeb3A

Interesting use of music (George Harrison's "While My Guitar Gently Weeps" in ancient Japanese style). I notice it never made wide release even though it had some pricey voice-over talent on the roster. The central message, "When you grow stronger, the world becomes more dangerous," is sort of intriguing. It might have been more correct to say, "The more conservative you become, the more dangerous the world becomes"! heh What did you like about the movie? Please be  honest!!  heh
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« Reply #711 on: January 17, 2017, 10:54:36 am »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbhxKrBe0AA

re: Andromeda, I thought Season 1 was excellent, then with Season 2 it started going off the rails... which further accelerated with later seasons.  JMHO.
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« Reply #712 on: January 17, 2017, 10:55:12 am »
I thought this a very good movie (fantasy/mythology genre).


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4-6qJzeb3A

I've been wanting to see that!
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« Reply #713 on: January 17, 2017, 06:04:43 pm »
It's out on Bluray now.

Yes, it's also available for streaming/rental from some outlets. The problem is finding the time to watch it...    :shrug:
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« Reply #714 on: January 17, 2017, 06:38:11 pm »
10 of the Worst Sci-Fi TV Shows of All Time

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In the past decade or so, science fiction on television has seen a dramatic uptick in both quantity and quality. Shows like Westworld are keeping critics engaged and audiences coming back for more week after week, but while a number of sci-fi shows over the years have developed significant cult followings, others have become notorious examples of just how bad the genre can be when it isn’t executed effectively. Here’s our look at some of the worst sci-fi shows to ever hit the small-screen. For the record, we’re focusing specifically on live-action series only. So any infamous animated shows won’t be appearing below.
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« Reply #715 on: January 17, 2017, 07:00:45 pm »
I have fond(ish) memories of Space 1999. Not for the dire acting, the ridiculously contrived plots or the convenient DxM every episode - I just loved the Eagles.



They just looked right as a lunar workhorse.
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« Reply #716 on: January 17, 2017, 07:51:54 pm »
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I don't know, I have fond memories of some of those series. Of course, I was a kid when I watched them, and starving for any kind of SF on television.   :shrug:
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« Reply #717 on: January 17, 2017, 09:01:47 pm »
I have fond(ish) memories of Space 1999. Not for the dire acting, the ridiculously contrived plots or the convenient DxM every episode - I just loved the Eagles.



They just looked right as a lunar workhorse.

I hear ya! That's what captured my imagination about SF in general. The Eagles were copied almost directly from 2001: A Space Odyssey's local lunar transport vehicles. Clarke and Kubrick employed some NASA consultants to work with their art director designing them. The idea was to stay as close to the functional design that a scientist would prefer as possible. That intuitively translates to the subconscious, IMO.
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« Reply #718 on: January 17, 2017, 09:53:40 pm »
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The golden ratio.
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« Reply #719 on: January 18, 2017, 07:06:19 am »
@LateForLunch

The golden ratio.
A different functional morphlogy applies, not so much determined by atmospheric sleekness, but a balance of masses around a center with the appropriate drive(s) and, when needed, landing gear.
So much of our eye is developed in a set of circumstances where the beauty of form is determined by ability to function in liquid or air, or to move across landscapes at 1G. Even the Enterprise of Star Trek has its propulsion units on one 'side' of its mass (ship relative 'up'), which, while it might appeal to those who cut their teeth on naval vessels who would see the saucer section as a planing hull or airfoil (which would only be mass to push in space, and contribute nothing to maintaining the attitude of the ship) would without other factors cartwheel through the aether until encountering some other object or dismantling itself through internal stresses generated by spin.
The Borg cube is a more practical ship, and the Deathstar of Star Wars, even more practical, because corners are tougher to maintain internal homeostasis in than a cubic shape.

Change the rules, and the concept of beauty could change with them (more dense atmosphere, higher/lower gravitational environment, the absence of planetary surfaces, liquids, or even atmosphere). To our dirtbound eyes one form is beauty, but would a different sense of beauty be derived by a different circumstance? Would we become attracted more by different functions than those of hull lines designed for a water world?

And by then, with the idea that ships in space (like X-wing fighters in Star Wars) might function differently there (rather than maneuver like aircraft in atmosphere), our sensibilities might find the squat ugliness of a cylindrical or spherical craft rotating on an axis and changing vectors to be far preferable to the sweeping maneuvers of a flying bird with wings or a craft that didn't need them--and in popular depiction, ships in space would behave more like, well, ships in space as opposed to fighter planes in atmosphere.

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« Reply #720 on: January 18, 2017, 08:20:48 am »
Take into account the type of shielding system you have developed.

"Captain, we're in a 'meteor' swarm. We just lost decks 1-5, 14-19, 35-42, sections a-c, f-g, etc.  As opposed to, Captain, Captain?"
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« Reply #721 on: January 18, 2017, 10:05:33 am »
Interesting observations!

"The squares of the first four integers".  One by four by nine. That was Clarke's formula favored by the aliens.

I'm guessing that the art designers compromised between function and form to the extent that the scientists would start with the most stable geometry for vacuum (a sphere) elongate that basic form into the next iteration maximizing internal area (cylinder) then hypothesize the functional necessities to accommodate humans and their activities (engress/egress, visibility, mobility, electronic sensors) which translate into doors, windows, propulsion, landing gear, storage for supplies, antennae, etc.)

Of course the final version would go to Kubrick for review to be styled to the mood of the scene. In the case of the lunar transport vehicles above, the scene was meant to portray calm, serene, technological mastery over the desolate lunar environment. He wanted the viewers to see the human astronauts as  comfortable to juxtapose that with the violent wrenching out from that peaceful self-assurance by the blast from the Monolith's "burglar alarm".

Then, as if oblivious to the warning, cut to the next scene of more similar self-assured human confidence of the Discovery and her oh-so-serene crew / computer transiting to Jupiter - their illusion of security/mastery restored once again.

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...Character actor James Frain, well known to genre fans for his roles on Orphan Black, True Blood, Gotham, Agent Carter, TRON: Legacy and many, many other projects has joined Discovery as Sarek of Vulcan. Sarek is of course the father of Spock, and the Vulcan ambassador to the Federation. Mark Lenard played this role in the original series, three of the original series films, and Star Trek: The Next Generation. Actor Ben Cross played the role in the J.J. Abrams 2009 Star Trek reboot...
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« Reply #723 on: January 25, 2017, 04:54:10 pm »
This King Arthur movie could be better than Excalibur..



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« Reply #724 on: January 26, 2017, 08:23:33 pm »
SciFi thought of the day..


What would the Enterprise would look like if the Boeing, SpaceX, or Blue Origin built the Enterprise.
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« Reply #725 on: January 27, 2017, 09:56:30 am »
SciFi thought of the day..


What would the Enterprise would look like if the Boeing, SpaceX, or Blue Origin built the Enterprise.

That's easy. It would look like a female reproductive organ. Just like so many in popular cinema. Feminazis have complained for decades about how spaceships in movies always look like male phalluses. Explaining to them that this design is known, not as "phallus- shaped," but "aerodynamic" (like bullets, airplanes, arrows, etc) will only get a dismissive snort. The fact that aerodynamic shapes happen to also resemble male reproductive organs is not a moral failing of males.

However, since art-designers for films/T.V. ventured into using realistic designs, (a trend that started with 2001: A Space Odyssey and continued with Star Trek, Star Wars etc.) the fact that spaceflight in a vacuum does not require a vehicle to have aerodynamic shape (there being no air in space) set them free to go hog wild with all sorts of odd shapes for star ships. Close Encounters of the Third Kind introduced the "floating sports stadium" look, then, many shows realized that they could at long last undo the years of "oppression" of women by aerodynamics and finally make spaceships that looked like vulvas. One after another.

Virtually every time I see a "new" design for a spaceship on T.V. or in films, I just expect it to resemble a vulva now. After all, the Feminazis have centuries of catching up to do to "get even" with patriarchal domination.

Below is one of the most famous vulva-shaped space ship designs from Star Wars but there are dozens and dozens of them if you pay attention.
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« Reply #726 on: January 27, 2017, 11:05:52 am »
This King Arthur movie could be better than Excalibur..



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ja9kDkmjdHQ

I wish they'd make a more historically accurate King Arthur movie. They always insist on having it set in medieval times (1000-1300). It would be more accurate to have it in late Roman times, just after the Romans abandoned Britain. They would not be armored knights in chain mail. They'd be Roman style infantrymen/light cavalry.

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« Reply #727 on: January 27, 2017, 11:10:43 am »
I wish they'd make a more historically accurate King Arthur movie. They always insist on having it set in medieval times (1000-1300). It would be more accurate to have it in late Roman times, just after the Romans abandoned Britain. They would not be armored knights in chain mail. They'd be Roman style infantrymen/light cavalry.

They did. Clive Owen and Keira Knightly were in it. It wasn't terrible.
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« Reply #728 on: January 27, 2017, 11:11:49 am »
They did. Clive Owen and Keira Knightly were in it. It wasn't terrible.

Hmmmm.... I'll have to look that one up. Thanks!

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« Reply #729 on: January 27, 2017, 11:15:16 am »
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0349683/

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Like I say - not terrible. Entertaining. Some anachronisms to let the audience relate, but nothing really out there.
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Ya don't say!  :tongue2:

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« Reply #731 on: January 27, 2017, 08:43:42 pm »
Ya don't say!  :tongue2:


I saw that movie. It was a riot! More parody than an 'adult film', for sure.
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« Reply #732 on: January 29, 2017, 05:27:24 pm »
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0349683/

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Like I say - not terrible. Entertaining. Some anachronisms to let the audience relate, but nothing really out there.


I saw it too, I thought it was OK.. It was better than the one with Sean Connery.
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« Reply #733 on: January 29, 2017, 05:32:19 pm »
Well I saw For the Love of Spock and I liked it. I thought it was better than Trek Nation...
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« Reply #737 on: January 30, 2017, 07:39:24 pm »
Isn't a three-year run in the role kind of traditional?   :shrug:

Yes, but kind of sad because it usually takes a couple of seasons for the writing to match the new Doctor, except for Mat Smith - they knew he'd be the crazy-funny guy.

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Anyone have thoughts on "Travelers"? (Netflix)

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Re: The Sci-Fi, Fantasy, Spy, and Superhero Genre
« Reply #739 on: February 02, 2017, 08:31:23 pm »
Anyone have thoughts on "Travelers"? (Netflix)

I just finished the final episode.

Yeah, if you made it all the way through I am going to give it a try. I have a hard time finding anything to watch anymore. So I end up watching nothing. Not that that is a bad thing. But I enjoy a good show.
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Re: The Sci-Fi, Fantasy, Spy, and Superhero Genre
« Reply #740 on: February 02, 2017, 08:33:27 pm »
Anyone have thoughts on "Travelers"? (Netflix)

I just finished the final episode.

I haven't seen it, but it sounds interesting.  I'll add it to my "to be watched" list.

I have been watching Knights of Sidonia on Netflix, and enjoying it quite a lot...
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Re: The Sci-Fi, Fantasy, Spy, and Superhero Genre
« Reply #741 on: February 02, 2017, 09:37:09 pm »
Yeah, if you made it all the way through I am going to give it a try. I have a hard time finding anything to watch anymore. So I end up watching nothing. Not that that is a bad thing. But I enjoy a good show.

For me, it started a little slow, but the plot is well developed and unfolds nicely. Good characters for both the travelers and non-travelers. Of the Travelers, the heroin addict is my favorite) he's a  brainiac. Started out hating a non traveler who is a social worker; but by the end, he had won me over.


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Re: The Sci-Fi, Fantasy, Spy, and Superhero Genre
« Reply #742 on: February 02, 2017, 09:46:26 pm »
For me, it started a little slow, but the plot is well developed and unfolds nicely. Good characters for both the travelers and non-travelers. Of the Travelers, the heroin addict is my favorite) he's a  brainiac. Started out hating a non traveler who is a social worker; but by the end, he had won me over.

I just watched the pilot. Looks good (enough to watch more). Thanks for the tip.
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Re: The Sci-Fi, Fantasy, Spy, and Superhero Genre
« Reply #743 on: February 03, 2017, 05:53:14 am »
You might also want to try "Glitch."  It's an Australian take on the dead returning, and nicely different than all the other shows with similar themes.  It starts a bit slow, but it's worth continuing.
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« Reply #745 on: February 04, 2017, 06:05:07 pm »
Well I watched the first two episodes of The Expanse and it is good..
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« Reply #746 on: February 04, 2017, 06:27:12 pm »
Well I watched the first two episodes of The Expanse and it is good..

I like the expanse because it shows where we should be with a great leap forward coming.

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« Reply #747 on: February 04, 2017, 06:32:08 pm »
I like the expanse because it shows where we should be with a great leap forward coming.


Two parts of The Expanse I don't like..


1. The UN Controls Planet Earth.. :(
2. Still stuck in the Solar System (well according to the books they will go Interstellar).
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« Reply #748 on: February 04, 2017, 06:35:30 pm »

Two parts of The Expanse I don't like..


1. The UN Controls Planet Earth.. :(
2. Still stuck in the Solar System (well according to the books they will go Interstellar).

True about the UN but they aren't portrayed as a great hope for mankind. The UN is portrayed as antagonistic and oppressive both on earth and in space.

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« Reply #749 on: February 04, 2017, 06:53:45 pm »
True about the UN but they aren't portrayed as a great hope for mankind. The UN is portrayed as antagonistic and oppressive both on earth and in space.


Which I'm surprised in how they are portrayed.
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