(POLL #2) VOTE! IF TRUMP IS THE NOMINEE WILL YOU VOTE FOR HIM?

[Victoria33]

Where do I actually vote?  In other words, where is the poll to cast my vote?
Victoria33 (Marcella)

[wolfcreek]

Oh it matters, but I think Trump will lose, badly, no matter what I do. Even if I could convince everyone I knew to vote for Trump, and I don't want to embarrass myself that way, Trump will still lose very badly in November.

Those on the Left are counting on y'all thinking that way. The more of you who stay home, the better.

[Wingnut]

 

I actually left TBR for a while to get the stench of A-lert off .   Just lying in wait for someone to dare dislike his hero, the man with the fake hair, fake tan, and wife with the fake boobs.
Ugh.  Some freepers ought to go home, their cultists are calling.  After all, fake man has changed positions so many times he could write his own Kama sutra.  (sp?)

FRefugees meet ALert. I don't believe you've been introduced.

Antibacterial handwipes will be provided by the management.

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

Those on the Left are counting on y'all thinking that way. The more of you who stay home, the better.

I don't think I'll stay home. If Trump gets my vote is up to him.

[A-Lert]

I actually left TBR for a while to get the stench of A-lert off .   Just lying in wait for someone to dare dislike his hero, the man with the fake hair, fake tan, and wife with the fake boobs.
Ugh.  Some freepers ought to go home, their cultists are calling.  After all, fake man has changed positions so many times he could write his own Kama sutra.  (sp?)

Cultists? 

[Victoria33]

@mystery-ak

Will not vote for Trump - will vote down ticket.  If I could find the actual poll, I would click it that way.  mystery, where is the actual poll to vote?

[Explorer89]

No, I will not.  Probably vote Gary Johnson just to prove that it was an intentional snub of both.  I live in a severely blue state, so it doesn't matter anyway, it goes to Hillary.

[A-Lert]

3  "conservatives" voting for anti 2nd Amendment and anti military Hillary?   :wtf!:

[wolfcreek]

I don't think I'll stay home. If Trump gets my vote is up to him.

To be real, IMO, both sides will have their share of voters staying home. It will be intersting to see who shows and who blows.

[Wingnut]

[Victoria33]

THIS IS THE 2ND OF TWO POLLS.
AGAIN, AS IN THE LAST ONE, ONLY ONE VOTE FOR MEMBER.

NO, will vote down ticket but #neverTrump.

[sneakypete]

To be real, IMO, both sides will have their share of voters staying home. It will be intersting to see who shows and who blows.

If Trump were serious about winning,he would try to get Bernie for his VP running mate. It has already been proven he has a large chunk of allegedly Republican voters that doesn't care what he says or does,and adding Bernie to his ticket would pull in a lot of Dim voters that hate Bubbette!,as well as young voters who are too ignorant to know much of anything.

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

If Trump were serious about winning,he would try to get Bernie for his VP running mate. It has already been proven he has a large chunk of allegedly Republican voters that doesn't care what he says or does,and adding Bernie to his ticket would pull in a lot of Dim voters that hate Bubbette!,as well as young voters who are too ignorant to know much of anything.

He does that and I would pull the lever for Hillary. Bernie and his supporters are complete idiots.

[WAC]

No, I'm not.  This will be the first Presidential election where I haven't voted for the Republican, and I cast my first vote for Reagan in 1980.

I can stomach voting for a "moderate" Republican on the grounds that at least he won't do as much damage as a Democrat.  A way to buy time/minimize the damage until I have a chance to vote for someone better.

Given the way Trump conducted his campaign, and what it would signal for the quality of future campaigns, I'm an not sure that there is enough of a difference between what he and Hillary are likely to accomplish to justify condoning what he did with a vote.  It is honestly an absolute embarrassment that a guy like that got the nomination of the Party of Lincoln.

Well he's just announced he will not reveal his choice for VP until the Convention........he knows they can refuse his choice of VP so he's not about to show that hand  for any vetting before the convention.

Did you the see hedge fund  guy Trump just brought in to handle his campaign finances......worked 17 years for Soros.....not to mention didn't Trump say these hedge fund guys were murders and tax cheats............this guy was actually sued robbing investors in the Maddoff Scam.............So we see' the Trump Oligarchy Dynasty shaping up' who willl be soon pocket diving into the taxpayers wallets like the sca artists these guys are...........and we'll see his sons, who are already handling Trumps political affairs also getting positions, though probably never announced as such.

[WAC]

AMEN, RATPatrol.  The blame for this disastrous election year lies squarely on the heads of the Trump fan club.

They'll continue to squeal and blame others (they're following their leader in that), but we all know exactly whose fault this catastrophe is.  NOT those of us who tried to sound the alarm.

t's possi
I haven't decided what I'm going to do....I was waiting to see who Trump would have as his VP but he's said now that he won't announce who that is until the convention.....(chicken)..........so if the guy continues not to show his hands and just expects me to "trust" the man then it's a no sale. And easy to say no I won't be voting for Trump......besides he may very well hand this over to Hillary and Billy Boy as I see it. .....and I don't want to assist that exchange......Trump will be unscathed if he wins or looses the general.....and he would have enjoyed his final thrust of life saying he ran for president and "could have won if" and the blame game would follow.

[A-Lert]

Well he's just announced he will not reveal his choice for VP until the Convention........he knows they can refuse his choice of VP so he's not about to show that hand  for any vetting before the convention.

Did you the see hedge fund  guy Trump just brought in to handle his campaign finances......worked 17 years for Soros.....not to mention didn't Trump say these hedge fund guys were murders and tax cheats............this guy was actually sued robbing investors in the Maddoff Scam.............So we see' the Trump Oligarchy Dynasty shaping up' who willl be soon pocket diving into the taxpayers wallets like the sca artists these guys are...........and we'll see his sons, who are already handling Trumps political affairs also getting positions, though probably never announced as such.

I believe you're a little confused.  Mnuchin worked 17 years for Goldman Sachs.  Steven Mnuchin is currently Director at Sears and Director at CIT.

http://www.bloomberg.com/research/stocks/private/person.asp?personId=1492034&privcapId=2522804

[aligncare]

I believe you're a little confused.  Mnuchin worked 17 years for Goldman Sachs.  Steven Mnuchin is currently Director at Sears and Director at CIT.

http://www.bloomberg.com/research/stocks/private/person.asp?personId=1492034&privcapId=2522804

Breaks my heart to see so many dead-enders here on a forum I thought of as home. Appears a whole lot of forum swapping happens in presidential primary years.

At first it was an interesting political campaign, but now #nevertrump is really just #welcomehillary. A political hashtag temper tantrum that I can't/won't abide.

Just my humble opinion, but be careful how you deal with your perceived loss and from whom you accept comfort in your moment of grief. You'll need sound reasoning, not emotion, come November.

[Luis Gonzalez]

Breaks my heart to see so many dead-enders here on a forum I thought of as home. Appears a whole lot of forum swapping happens in presidential primary years.

At first it was an interesting political campaign, but now #nevertrump is really just #welcomehillary. A political hashtag temper tantrum that I can't/won't abide.

Just my humble opinion, but be careful how you deal with your perceived loss and from whom you accept comfort in your moment of grief. You'll need sound reasoning, not emotion, come November.

Amazing thing to read from a guy who supports the man who rode a wave of anger to the top of the GOP ticket.

[catfish1957]

Breaks my heart to see so many dead-enders here on a forum I thought of as home. Appears a whole lot of forum swapping happens in presidential primary years.

At first it was an interesting political campaign, but now #nevertrump is really just #welcomehillary. A political hashtag temper tantrum that I can't/won't abide.

Just my humble opinion, but be careful how you deal with your perceived loss and from whom you accept comfort in your moment of grief. You'll need sound reasoning, not emotion, come November.

Hate to tell you, but based on Trump's history a Trump presidency probably won't look much different than a Hitlerly one.   Rather not have the GOP blamed for that debacle.

[Sanguine]

Amazing thing to read from a guy who supports the man who rode a wave of anger to the top of the GOP ticket.

@Luis Gonzalez , love your new avatar!

[sneakypete]

He does that and I would pull the lever for Hillary. Bernie and his supporters are complete idiots.

And Trump and Bubbette! aren't???????

You realize you are arguing about the difference between fascism and socialism,and stating you will vote fascist but not socialist,right?

[sneakypete]

Well he's just announced he will not reveal his choice for VP until the Convention........he knows they can refuse his choice of VP so he's not about to show that hand  for any vetting before the convention.

Did you the see hedge fund  guy Trump just brought in to handle his campaign finances......worked 17 years for Soros.....not to mention didn't Trump say these hedge fund guys were murders and tax cheats............this guy was actually sued robbing investors in the Maddoff Scam.............So we see' the Trump Oligarchy Dynasty shaping up' who willl be soon pocket diving into the taxpayers wallets like the sca artists these guys are...........and we'll see his sons, who are already handling Trumps political affairs also getting positions, though probably never announced as such.

And he has already said he would put his daughter in charge of all his assets instead of a blind trust.

Can you say "Mussolini,Part 2".

We can just all him "El Douche". That's close enough.

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

And Trump and Bubbette! aren't???????

You realize you are arguing about the difference between fascism and socialism,and stating you will vote fascist but not socialist,right?

I would prefer the status quo to Bernie. The man has shit for brains and so do his supporters. Period.

[A-Lert]

Hate to tell you, but based on Trump's history a Trump presidency probably won't look much different than a Hitlerly one.   Rather not have the GOP blamed for that debacle.

Maybe you'd be able to explain to all of us how Trump and Hillary are the same on the 2nd Amendment, the military, secure borders, the DOE, EPA, Benghazi and foreign policy?

[wolfcreek]

If Trump were serious about winning,he would try to get Bernie for his VP running mate. It has already been proven he has a large chunk of allegedly Republican voters that doesn't care what he says or does,and adding Bernie to his ticket would pull in a lot of Dim voters that hate Bubbette!,as well as young voters who are too ignorant to know much of anything.

He's already said it wouldn't be a Leftist. [despite the wet dreams of that party]

[A-Lert]

Breaks my heart to see so many dead-enders here on a forum I thought of as home. Appears a whole lot of forum swapping happens in presidential primary years.

At first it was an interesting political campaign, but now #nevertrump is really just #welcomehillary. A political hashtag temper tantrum that I can't/won't abide.

Just my humble opinion, but be careful how you deal with your perceived loss and from whom you accept comfort in your moment of grief. You'll need sound reasoning, not emotion, come November.

What fascinates me is how many alleged conservative  adults claim there is no difference between Trump and Hillary. But when asked to explain how they are the same in regards to the 2nd Amendment, the military, border security, foreign policy, foreign aide, Benghazi, ISIS, global warming, the DOE and EPA, there is silence.

[wolfcreek]

Amazing thing to read from a guy who supports the man who rode a wave of anger to the top of the GOP ticket.

Why aren't you angry? That's the real question.

[wolfcreek]

Breaks my heart to see so many dead-enders here on a forum I thought of as home. Appears a whole lot of forum swapping happens in presidential primary years.

At first it was an interesting political campaign, but now #nevertrump is really just #welcomehillary. A political hashtag temper tantrum that I can't/won't abide.

Just my humble opinion, but be careful how you deal with your perceived loss and from whom you accept comfort in your moment of grief. You'll need sound reasoning, not emotion, come November.

It's funny considering how much grief they gave Michelle O. for her hash tag campaigns.

What's not too funny is they don't realize they are being used by the same people they detest ....the GOPe

[Luis Gonzalez]

Why aren't you angry? That's the real question.

One can be angry without making decisions based on that anger.

[Rivergirl]

The orange guy wants to ban so called assault rifles.  He praised Obama's histrionics on gun control following Sandy Hook killings.
His ideas for governing are no different than Bernie's.  He wants the gummint to take care of everyone. Everything will be beaultiful, we'll all be so happy.
He has said more crackpot things than any other candidate of either party in my lifetime. 
No knowing what he will do next, now that he has determined that the pen and phone are all he needs.

[Luis Gonzalez]

What fascinates me is how many alleged conservative  adults claim there is no difference between Trump and Hillary. But when asked to explain how they are the same in regards to the 2nd Amendment, the military, border security, foreign policy, foreign aide, Benghazi, ISIS, global warming, the DOE and EPA, there is silence.

We don't know how Trump is on anything because he hasn't governed a single day in his life.

We know what he's said, and we know what he's flip flopped on. We also know, in his own words, that he will say anything he needs to say in order to win.

He was in favor of gun control measures before he was against them.

There's a world of difference between saying and doing.

[wolfcreek]

One can be angry without making decisions based on that anger.

Reason I asked is the GOP hasn't done anything to slow the Leftist agenda and not much anger coming from the electorate to show we care.

WHY?

[sneakypete]

I would prefer the status quo to Bernie. The man has shit for brains and so do his supporters. Period.

Granted,but that doesn't mean he isn't as smart as either Trump or Bubbette!,and both of them parrot the socialist line but don't mean it.

I'd love to see him defeat Bubbette! for the Dim nomination.

Just think,that would mean BOTH branches of the ruling party got their assed handed to them in the same election cycle,and both of their party favorites got beaten by outsiders.

Hell,I may vote for Bernie myself if he beats Bubbette! and is running against Trump. Bernie is just a well-meaning fool,but Trump is evil to the bone.

[sneakypete]

He's already said it wouldn't be a Leftist. [despite the wet dreams of that party]

So what? If his lips are moving,he's lying.

[sneakypete]

What fascinates me is how many alleged conservative  adults claim there is no difference between Trump and Hillary. But when asked to explain how they are the same in regards to the 2nd Amendment, the military, border security, foreign policy, foreign aide, Benghazi, ISIS, global warming, the DOE and EPA, there is silence.

What makes you think that narcissistic sociopath with the orange hair doesn't agree with Bubbette! on every single issue?

[A-Lert]

There's a world of difference between saying and doing.

We know exactly what Hillary will do. The GOP has come to the realization that Trump is the nominee and that they had better work together for the sake of the country. If Hillary wins, bend over, grab your ankles and kiss your a$$ goodbye.

 Texas GOP Starts To Rally Behind Trump As Nominee

By Patrick Svitek Texas Tribune • 22 hours ago

[montanajoe]

What fascinates me is how many alleged conservative  adults claim there is no difference between Trump and Hillary. But when asked to explain how they are the same in regards to the 2nd Amendment, the military, border security, foreign policy, foreign aide, Benghazi, ISIS, global warming, the DOE and EPA, there is silence.

You raise some valid points if there was a difference between Clinton and Trump but I don't perceive any difference, they are both NY liberals. If anything, in my view Clinton is probably more Conservative than the Orange one, she's certainly got bigger hands.

As to the 2nd, I don't care I lost my weapons years ago in an unfortunate boating accident , but seriously nothing will change unless the SC changes and I simply don't believe Trump's nominees will be any better that Clinton's. Trump sat out Vietnam as so many little rich boys in our generation did, I volunteered and I'm sorry, he didn't care about the military then and I don't believe he cares now. Foreign policy give me a break he's clueless. ISIS he probably thinks thats a name for a real hot babe he'd like to date... got my drift?  I don't believe anything that Trump says and I think his supporters are foolish for believing him but this America and everyone has a right to be a sucker and be played for a fool.

[catfish1957]

Maybe you'd be able to explain to all of us how Trump and Hillary are the same on the 2nd Amendment, the military, secure borders, the DOE, EPA, Benghazi and foreign policy?

As much as Trump flip flops, he will have 20 positions on each of those by next week.  Both Hitlerly and Trump are liberals.  I prefer none of the above.

[A-Lert]

You raise some valid points if there was a difference between Clinton and Trump but I don't perceive any difference, they are both NY liberals. If anything, in my view Clinton is probably more Conservative than the Orange one, she's certainly got bigger hands.

As to the 2nd, I don't care I lost my weapons years ago in an unfortunate boating accident , but seriously nothing will change unless the SC changes and I simply don't believe Trump's nominees will be any better that Clinton's. Trump sat out Vietnam as so many little rich boys in our generation did, I volunteered and I'm sorry, he didn't care about the military then and I don't believe he cares now. Foreign policy give me a break he's clueless. ISIS he probably thinks thats a name for a real hot babe he'd like to date... got my drift?  I don't believe anything that Trump says and I think his supporters are foolish for believing him but this America and everyone has a right to be a sucker and be played for a fool.

As I suspected. A rebuttal without substance. You are just expressing your dislike and beliefs.

[A-Lert]

As much as Trump flip flops, he will have 20 positions on each of those by next week.  Both Hitlerly and Trump are liberals.  I prefer none of the above.

As I suspected.

[montanajoe]

As I suspected. A rebuttal without substance.

Well when you support a candidate without substance thats the only rational argument. There is on old saying, you can't prove a negative, and  your boy is a negative...

[Neverdul]

No, I will not.  Probably vote Gary Johnson just to prove that it was an intentional snub of both.  I live in a severely blue state, so it doesn't matter anyway, it goes to Hillary.

I live in PA and after the conventions, I will be closely watching the polling here but most likely PA will go to Clinton so like you, my vote probably won’t matter.

I will also be watching how far Trump flip flops or changes his primary positions (more than he’s already done in just the last few days), how far left he will shift to get the Sander’s vote….etc.

If it ends up being a very close call here in PA and in order to deny Hillary the EC votes for PA, I may hold my nose very, very, very hard, to the point of requiring reconstructive surgery afterward and vote for Trump, hoping for the best, that he wouldn’t be the total disaster I think he will be, but at this point I’ll probably vote Libertarian as I did in ’96.

I watched both Libertarian debates on Stossel and I actually liked Austin Peterson better than Gary Johnson who I thought was very week on some personal liberty and private property issues (i.e. supported forcing people to provide services against their conscience or religious beliefs, i.e. the bakers) who and is “agnostic” to pro-choice on abortion whereas Peterson is pro-life, but I presume Johnson will be the Libertarian candidate.

But if we are going to go bat guano crazy anyway – why not John McAfee?

And truth be told, it is sort of a sad state of affairs when I have to question if McAfee doesn’t come off sounding a bit less crazy and a tad more rational than Trump. At least McAfee is consistent in his views and owns up to his past mistakes. 

[A-Lert]

As I suspected. A rebuttal without substance.

Well when you support a candidate without substance thats the only rational argument. There is on old saying, you can't prove a negative, and  your boy is a negative...

Your boy? Why don't you leave that crap at FR?

 Texas GOP Starts To Rally Behind Trump As Nominee
By Patrick Svitek Texas Tribune • 22 hours ago

http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/trump-concealed-carry-permit/2015/10/03/id/694581/

"This is about self-defense, plain and simple," he said.

His plan includes defending the rights of law-abiding gun owners, as well as strengthening the national FBI's background checks system and increasing mental-health services.

Trump also wants to allow military personnel to carry guns on bases.

"It's not the guns, it’s these sick people," he said, later adding: "They have background checks already in place. That was done in 1998, but people slip through — and our government is not doing a good job."

He also called for a "National Right to Carry," in which a concealed carry permit issued in one state would apply throughout the country.
"I'm a very big Second Amendment person," Trump said to cheers from the audience. "It's very, very important to me."

Breaking News at Newsmax.com http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/trump-concealed-carry-permit/2015/10/03/id/694581/#ixzz47uZ1KCU5

[Luis Gonzalez]

WHY?

Because the electorate has moved left. Ergo Bernie Sanders.

Conservatism is a somewhat unnatural position to hold since societies naturally tend to become more permissive rather than less permissive if allowed to evolve freely.

[Luis Gonzalez]

Your boy? Why don't you leave that crap at FR?

 

A few days ago I read you telling someone that they posted like a ten year-old.

Grow up.

[A-Lert]

A few days ago I read you telling someone that they posted like a ten year-old.

Grow up.

Apparently it wasn't understood.

[montanajoe]

Your boy? Why don't you leave that crap at FR?

 Twsmax.com/Headline/trump-concealed-carry-permit/2015/10/03/id/694581/#ixzz47uZ1KCU5

Really... I've refrained from responding to your comment's for the same reason that for the most part, I would not respond to those on FR who are emotionally vested in their Orange candidate. I get that you are 100% behind Trump, he says what you want to hear. In every political post I've seen since I have been here you you eventually show up and carpet bomb with your defense of Trump, while claiming those not supporting your view and your candidate refuse to respond with your self defined version of "substance".

I don't presume to tell you or anyone else where to post...but I would observe that emotional responses work at TOS, but from I've enjoyed about this site so far..not so much.

[A-Lert]

Really... I've refrained from responding to your comment's for the same reason that for the most part, I would not respond to those on FR who are emotionally vested in their Orange candidate. I get that you are 100% behind Trump, he says what you want to hear. In every political post I've seen since I have been here you you eventually show up and carpet bomb with your defense of Trump, while claiming those not supporting your view and your candidate refuse to respond with your self defined version of "substance".

I don't presume to tell you or anyone else where to post...but I would observe that emotional responses work at TOS, but from I've enjoyed about this site so far..not so much.

The only people being emotional are those hurling the insults and doing the juvenile name-calling. Have you seen me call Cruz stupid, insulting names? Have I referred to his supporters as being idiots, cultists, morons or worse? Tell me, do you honestly believe referring to a Presidential candidate in your own party as the orange candidate or orange baboon is substantial? When I was banned from FR years ago I thought I left that kind of nonsense.

[Bigun]

Really... I've refrained from responding to your comment's for the same reason that for the most part, I would not respond to those on FR who are emotionally vested in their Orange candidate. I get that you are 100% behind Trump, he says what you want to hear. In every political post I've seen since I have been here you you eventually show up and carpet bomb with your defense of Trump, while claiming those not supporting your view and your candidate refuse to respond with your self defined version of "substance".

I don't presume to tell you or anyone else where to post...but I would observe that emotional responses work at TOS, but from I've enjoyed about this site so far..not so much.

The avaliable ignore feature here works quite well.

[MACVSOG68]

How about we all try to not make this look like TOS by via the insultathon?  As Bigun pointed out, the ignore feature is available...for all!