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https://nypost.com/2025/03/24/world-news/russia-to-pay-schoolgirls-to-have-children-to-boost-birth-rates/

Desperate Russia will pay schoolgirls $1,200 to have children
to boost birth rates in wake of Ukraine War meat grinder


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So Elon Musk is right....again!
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https://nypost.com/2025/03/24/world-news/russia-to-pay-schoolgirls-to-have-children-to-boost-birth-rates/

Desperate Russia will pay schoolgirls $1,200 to have children
to boost birth rates in wake of Ukraine War meat grinder


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So Elon Musk is right....again!

So Putin thinks Russian girls are whores who will put out for $1200?

Some days the jokes just right themselves. tipping hat!!
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So Putin thinks Russian girls are whores who will put out for $1200?

Some days the jokes just right themselves. tipping hat!!

You only prove my Thomas Sowell meme correct @MeganC

You also prove Elon Musk's valid concern that not reproducing will destroy any country/civilization.

You also won't acknowledge that TWO YEARS of war in Ukraine and Russia where thousands of young men is sensless.

IOW...you're no longer worth any thinking person's time.  You post that it's merely a joke writing itself.

Have a nice day!
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You only prove my Thomas Sowell meme correct @MeganC

You also prove Elon Musk's valid concern that not reproducing will destroy any country/civilization.

You also won't acknowledge that TWO YEARS of war in Ukraine and Russia where thousands of young men is sensless.

IOW...you're no longer worth any thinking person's time.  You post that it's merely a joke writing itself.

Have a nice day!
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1. I have nine kids.

2. Russia's war to conquer Ukraine started in 2014. 2022 was just the start of a major offensive in that same war.

3. Russia can stop their war anytime they want to. This is not an option for the Ukrainians who do not want to be ruled by the Russians again.

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1. I have nine kids.

2. Russia's war to conquer Ukraine started in 2014. 2022 was just the start of a major offensive in that same war.

3. Russia can stop their war anytime they want to. This is not an option for the Ukrainians who do not want to be ruled by the Russians again.

We're only discussing the past 3 years here where it has become nothing but a meatgrinder with people dying for absolutely nothing.

Since you're so gung ho on saving Ukraine's sovereignty recently Ukraine make it very easy for Americans to sign up in their military.  Would you consider sending a few of your "kids"?
"It aint what you don't know that kills you.  It's what you know that aint so!" ...Theodore Sturgeon

"Journalism is about covering the news.  With a pillow.  Until it stops moving."    - David Burge (Iowahawk)

"It was only a sunny smile, and little it cost in the giving, but like morning light it scattered the night and made the day worth living" F. Scott Fitzgerald

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"It aint what you don't know that kills you.  It's what you know that aint so!" ...Theodore Sturgeon

"Journalism is about covering the news.  With a pillow.  Until it stops moving."    - David Burge (Iowahawk)

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Zelensky has rejected Trump’s proposal outright. He refuses the minerals deal, does not consider U.S. military aid a debt, and will not enter into direct negotiations with Putin.

Considering Putin's terms, I don't blame him.  Putin's non-negotiable terms:

- Surrender all of Kherson, Zaporizhzhia, Donetsk, and Luhansk oblasts
- Zelenskiy step down
- No EU membership for Ukraine
- No arms deals with any other EU or NATO nation
- Versailles-style restraints on Ukraine military
- The remainder of Ukraine becomes a vassal state of Greater Russia.


Does he want peace?

Who, Putin?  Absolutely not.  He won't even abide by the cease fire terms he demands of Ukraine (e.g. demilitarize the Black Sea, end attacks on energy centers, etc.)
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We're only discussing the past 3 years here where it has become nothing but a meatgrinder with people dying for absolutely nothing.

Since you're so gung ho on saving Ukraine's sovereignty recently Ukraine make it very easy for Americans to sign up in their military.  Would you consider sending a few of your "kids"?


Don't need to.  (See logical fallacies:  Red Herring)


This war can easily be won with minimal investment.  The US simply lacks a leader who desires to win.  The previous leader wanted this war to last until infinity, using it as a means to reshape the world though US graft.  The current leader is willing to cede everything over to Putin, erroneously believing that doing so will bring peace.  There is a third option.
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So Putin thinks Russian girls are whores who will put out for $1200?

Some days the jokes just right themselves. tipping hat!!

Germany did something similar in the late 1930s.  Maybe that's where Putin got the idea.

“The Cross of Honor for the German Mother”: Three-Tiered Medal for Mothers with Four or More Children (1938)
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We're only discussing the past 3 years here where it has become nothing but a meatgrinder with people dying for absolutely nothing.

No, you want to limit the discussion to the past three years. Ignoring the fact that the scumbag Russians used the Sochi Olympics as cover for their troop movements leading to the surprise attack on Ukraine denies the reasons the war continues.

Since you're so gung ho on saving Ukraine's sovereignty recently Ukraine make it very easy for Americans to sign up in their military.  Would you consider sending a few of your "kids"?[/size]

I'm rather hoping to stop the goddamned Russians in Ukraine so my kids don't end up having to fight them.

We want the same thing which is peace. But you think caving in to the Russians will buy it for you when appeasement has never worked before.

Myself, I want to see Russia bloodied and weakened sufficiently that it'll be decades or generations before they'll ever even have a fucntioning economy again, let alone be capable of threatening anyone.

I want the Russian threat put to an end. Those pricks have been threatening America for eighty years now.

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Considering Putin's terms, I don't blame him.  Putin's non-negotiable terms:

- Surrender all of Kherson, Zaporizhzhia, Donetsk, and Luhansk oblasts
- Zelenskiy step down
- No EU membership for Ukraine
- No arms deals with any other EU or NATO nation
- Versailles-style restraints on Ukraine military
- The remainder of Ukraine becomes a vassal state of Greater Russia.


Who, Putin?  Absolutely not.  He won't even abide by the cease fire terms he demands of Ukraine (e.g. demilitarize the Black Sea, end attacks on energy centers, etc.)



Trump himself said that one walks away from the negotiations when the "deal" isn't within reach. I find it interesting that people think Z would walk away on such a crucial issue.

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We want the same thing which is peace. But you think caving in to the Russians will buy it for you when appeasement has never worked before.

Myself, I want to see Russia bloodied and weakened sufficiently that it'll be decades or generations before they'll ever even have a fucntioning economy again, let alone be capable of threatening anyone.

I want the Russian threat put to an end. Those pricks have been threatening America for eighty years now.

Word.
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Remember this oldie?

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Russia has agreed to a temporary ceasefire of Ukrainian energy targets lasting 30 days following negotiations with President Trump.  .  .  .
1:53 PM · Mar 18, 2025

That one didn't last a week before Putin broke it.
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Russia is already rejecting Trump's ceasefire deal today.

Predictable, Putin isn't interested in Peace.
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Russia is already rejecting Trump's ceasefire deal today.

Predictable, Putin isn't interested in Peace.

Putin wants to conquer Ukraine. That's it.
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