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 Trump, Vance call for clean CR, debt ceiling hike; urge GOP to sink Johnson compromise
by Brett Samuels - 12/18/24 4:41 PM ET

President-elect Trump and Vice President-elect J.D. Vance on Wednesday called for Republicans to approve a clean stopgap funding bill paired with a hike to the debt ceiling, saying the previous government-funding measure negotiated by Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.) should be torpedoed.

In a lengthy statement issued amid growing opposition to the Johnson bill from Trump allies and House Republicans, Vance and Trump said lawmakers should pass a “streamlined spending bill that doesn’t give Chuck Schumer and the Democrats everything they want.”

“Republicans want to support our farmers, pay for disaster relief, and set our country up for success in 2025,” the statement said. “The only way to do that is with a temporary funding bill WITHOUT DEMOCRAT GIVEAWAYS combined with an increase in the debt ceiling. Anything else is a betrayal of our country. Republicans must GET SMART and TOUGH.

“If Democrats threaten to shut down the government unless we give them everything they want, then CALL THEIR BLUFF,” he added.

The statement left unclear precisely what would happen to disaster aid and assistance to farmers that had been included in the bill. The two voiced support for such provisions, but also called for a clean funding bill.

The government is set to shut down on Saturday unless lawmakers can pass a funding measure through the House and Senate by then.

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Maybe things really are changing. The old rules don't work anymore with the public using social media for their information.
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House GOP leaders scramble for Plan B after Trump, Musk lead conservative fury against spending bill

House GOP leaders are working toward a backup plan after an initial bipartisan deal to avoid a partial government shutdown on Friday was killed by an avalanche of conservative opposition.

The legislation angered conservatives in both the House and Senate, as well as President-elect Trump's pick to co-chair his Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE), Elon Musk.

As Musk called for lawmakers who supported the bill to lose their seats, Trump's presidential transition team released an official joint statement by Trump and Vice President-elect JD Vance opposing the initial iteration of the deal.

House Majority Leader Steve Scalise, R-La., confirmed to reporters that the deal was dead while leaving the Capitol on Wednesday night....................

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Maybe things really are changing. The old rules don't work anymore with the public using social media for their information.

IMHO I think things are going to change significantly under Trump's 2nd administration in a very positive way. Don't get me wrong the leftists and the GOPe are still going to try to continue to wreak havoc on his administration but there are a lot of people who are much wiser and realize the disinformation that they've been fed for so long.

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A statement from President Donald J. Trump and Vice President-Elect JD Vance:

The most foolish and inept thing ever done by Congressional Republicans was allowing our country to hit the debt ceiling in 2025. It was a mistake and is now something that must be addressed.

Meanwhile, Congress is considering a spending bill that would give sweetheart provisions for government censors and for Liz Cheney. The bill would make it easier to hide the records of the corrupt January 6 committee—which accomplished nothing for the American people and hid security failures that happened that day. This bill would also give Congress a pay increase while many Americans are struggling this Christmas.
 
Increasing the debt ceiling is not great but we’d rather do it on Biden’s watch. If Democrats won’t cooperate on the debt ceiling now, what makes anyone think they would do it in June during our administration? Let’s have this debate now. And we should pass a streamlined spending bill that doesn’t give Chuck Schumer and the Democrats everything they want.
 
Republicans want to support our farmers, pay for disaster relief, and set our country up for success in 2025. The only way to do that is with a temporary funding bill WITHOUT DEMOCRAT GIVEAWAYS combined with an increase in the debt ceiling. Anything else is a betrayal of our country.
 
Republicans must GET SMART and TOUGH. If Democrats threaten to shut down the government unless we give them everything they want, then CALL THEIR BLUFF. It is Schumer and Biden who are holding up aid to our farmers and disaster relief.
 
THIS CHAOS WOULD NOT BE HAPPENING IF WE HAD A REAL PRESIDENT. WE WILL IN 32 DAYS!


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We need to win these battles now!

Imagine a world where govt controlled AI can shut down "misinformation" on social media within less than a second.
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 Jeffries suggests Democrats will oppose a ‘clean’ funding bill after Johnson’s plan falters
by Mike Lillis - 12/18/24 5:32 PM ET

House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries (D-N.Y.) suggested Wednesday that Democrats will oppose any federal spending bill that strays from the bipartisan deal announced a day before, accusing GOP leaders of reneging on the agreement at risk of a government shutdown.

In a brief statement, Jeffries invoked the growing conservative outcry over the negotiated continuing resolution (CR) — including opposition from President-elect Trump — and warned Republicans that they will “own” the economic and political fallout if a shutdown occurs.

“House Republicans have been ordered to shut down the government. And hurt the working class Americans they claim to support,” Jeffries posted on social platform X. “You break the bipartisan agreement, you own the consequences that follow.”

The warning arrives as Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.), under heavy pressure from conservatives on and off Capitol Hill, is considering a move to scrap the negotiated CR and shift to a “clean” bill that drops many of the additional provisions agreed to by the two parties. That list includes economic help for the nation’s farmers and $100 billion in emergency aid for victims of natural disasters around the country.

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BREAKING: 30 House Republicans have now come out against the 1,547 page Continuing Resolution Spending Bill that funds the Government.

Rep. Cory Mills
Rep. Thomas Massie
Rep. Tim Burchett
Rep. Nancy Mace
Rep. Bob Good
Rep. Chip Roy
Rep. Lauren Boebert
Rep. Eli Crane
Rep. Michael Cloud
Rep. Andy Ogles
Rep. Andy Biggs
Rep. Paul Gosar
Rep. Eric Burlison
Rep. Keith Self
Rep. Ralph Norman
Rep. Andrew Clyde
Rep. Dan Bishop
Rep. Ralph Norman
Rep. Wesley Hunt
Rep. Warren Davidson
Rep. Kat Cammack
Rep. Kevin Kiley
Rep. Majorie Taylor Greene
Rep. Jeff Van Drew
Rep. Matt Rosendale
Rep. Tom Tiffany
Rep. Victoria Spartz
Rep. Randy Weber
Rep. Tony Wied

I see one name on that list that won't be here come Jan 6 because Trump wanted him primaried.  It will be a loss for this country.  At least we have 29 left.  Not sure why my Rep's name isn't on that list.  I'll give him a call tomorrow.
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   I'd believe in Faries before I believe this current Congress would do anything in our favor. 

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A very prominent Republican member of Congress just called me and told me that GOP House Leadership threatened to withhold hurricane funding from their storm ravaged district unless they voted for the bloated, woke CR.

Also threatened their committee seats.

Dirty moves...

This is what Democrats do.  And now, so do Republicans.
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Just now

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🚨 JUST IN: JD Vance has been spotted walking into Speaker Johnson’s office, per Politico

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I hope Vance bitch-slaps him.
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How on earth did a 3 month Continuing Resolution grow into this Cramnibus
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Trump, Musk fire back after Dem leader blames House GOP for breaking bipartisan agreement
Elon Musk responds to Hakeem Jeffries: 'You seem to think the public is dumb. They are not'
By Greg Wehner Fox News
Published December 18, 2024 8:39pm EST

House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries, D-N.Y., while speaking at the U.S. Capitol in Washington, D.C., called out House Republicans for breaking a bipartisan agreement to fund the government and avoid a government shutdown, accusing them of hurting everyday Americans across the country.

On Wednesday, House GOP leaders scrambled to search for a backup plan after reaching an initial bipartisan deal to avoid a partial government shutdown this Friday was buried by a barrage of opposition from conservative leaders.

Jeffries spoke about the failed deal, accusing Republicans and their leaders for not reaching the agreement.

"House Republicans, house democrats, Senate. Republicans and Senate Democrats reached a bipartisan agreement to fund the government, keep it open and meet the needs of the American people," Jeffries said, pointing out the agreement would provide disaster assistance for those affected by extreme weather events. "House Republicans have now unilaterally decided to break a bipartisan agreement that they made. House Republicans have been ordered to shut down the government and hurt everyday Americans all across this country…An agreement is an agreement. It was bipartisan and there was nothing more to say."


https://twitter.com/RepJeffries/status/1869493488460669104

The minority leader also fired off a post on X, saying, "House Republicans have been ordered to shut down the government. And hurt working class Americans they claim to support. You break the bipartisan agreement; you own the consequences that follow."

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Just sent this to my Congressman:

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Congressman Strong,

I understand that there are thirty GOP House members who have come out against the 1,547 page Continuing Resolution Spending Bill.  I am curious as to why your name is not on that list.  Our current budget deficit and overall debt is the number one threat to our nation's future.  It is time that you begin taking this seriously.  The people of this country rose up to put Republicans in power.  And it is the utmost betrayal to subject them to another $110 billion on top of the $500 billion of deficit spending already present in that 3-month funding bill.  House Republicans have had two years to submit a budget.  Yet here you are voting again to continue Pelosi's 2022 spending (plus everything else added since then).

America has spoken.  North Alabama has spoken.  If you are not willing to do the people's will and live within your means, then please step aside so that we can get real representation for the people here that you seem to have forgotten about.
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House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries, D-N.Y., while speaking at the U.S. Capitol in Washington, D.C., called out House Republicans for breaking a bipartisan agreement .  .  .

Praise G-d!


.  .  . to fund the government and avoid a government shutdown, accusing them of hurting everyday Americans across the country.

And there it is.  The Shutdown boogeyman.  For once, Republicans should call their bluff.  Submit CR, but include $100 billion in spending CUTS instead of increases.  Then watch Democrats vote it down, and blame them for the shutdown (which is a win-win).
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How about Vivek for House Speaker?

I've been leery of Vivek, but Johnson has to go.

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https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1869496042452042207


The gov't hasn't done squat to help those affected by the hurricanes -- so are we to believe that any $$ will actually be distributed to them if this bill is passed??? 

Doubtful.

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   Trump and Pence should have done this $hit in 2016 w/Boehner. 
   It took Cruz to take that ba$tard down.
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This is interesting.  Even though Matt Gaetz resigned, he is still the congressman-elect for his district.  He can still be sworn in on Jan 5.  And since the Ethics panel decided to release its report anyway, he can propose a bill to release the names of everyone utilizing hush fund cash.




https://twitter.com/FmrRepMattGaetz/status/1869443479052362133
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Compare their "COLA" to the pennies they threw to Social Security recipients. Their raise is over three times the average annual payout to social security recipients.
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