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General Category => Politics/Government => Topic started by: montanajoe on February 20, 2018, 03:08:18 am
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MAGA
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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-trump-romney/trump-endorses-romney-in-run-for-u-s-senate-seat-in-utah-idUSKCN1G406B (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-trump-romney/trump-endorses-romney-in-run-for-u-s-senate-seat-in-utah-idUSKCN1G406B)
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MAGA
:tongue2: :silly: :eatdrink:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-trump-romney/trump-endorses-romney-in-run-for-u-s-senate-seat-in-utah-idUSKCN1G406B (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-trump-romney/trump-endorses-romney-in-run-for-u-s-senate-seat-in-utah-idUSKCN1G406B)
Oh, yeah, Mitt would get defeated in Utah otherwise. :tongue2:
Thanks for the wisdom! :silly:
I'll take ISIS being taken down versus the rancor of Never Trumpers any day of the week. Mitt's a shoe-in, saved the Salt Lake Olympics, grad of BYU, Bishop in the Mormon Church, the bitterness amazes me. Maybe one of those conservatives that helped bring us 8 years of Barak.
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Romney will win in any case, so why not? Mending fences can't hurt.
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Trump endorses Romney in Utah Senate race
By Jacqueline Thomsen - 02/19/18 09:34 PM EST
Romney announces U.S. Senate bid for Utah
Reuters
President Trump endorsed Mitt Romney in the Senate race to replace retiring Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-Utah) on Monday night, despite reportedly urging Hatch to run for reelection to block Romney out.
“He will make a great Senator and worthy successor to @OrrinHatch, and has my full support and endorsement!†Trump tweeted.
more
http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/374576-trump-endorses-critic-romney-in-utah-senate-race (http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/374576-trump-endorses-critic-romney-in-utah-senate-race)
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That's funny...
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There's no stopping Mitt, I think he has some wisdom. My fear, is he could be a bit of a "maverick" with his vote like McCain and we need him to be a team player. I mean, he just came out with that talk about immigration. Anyway, I know Mitt's record pretty good, I can answer some criticisms of him I know people bring up.
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Trump just wants access to Mitt's binders full of women.
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To be expected.
Trump has a history of endorsing, funding and campaigning for Liberal Carpet-Baggers.
Some of you might remember someone called Hillary.
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This was a rude message by @montanajoe , pretty classless, but I suggest if he doesn't like the way the people in Utah are assured to vote, perhaps he can turn directly South.
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Hell, he endorsed Ayotte, McCain and Luther, so this is not really a surprise.
"Mitt Romney, who was one of the dumbest and worst candidates in the history of Republican politics, is now pushing me on tax returns. Dope!" DJT
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To be expected.
Trump has a history of endorsing, funding and campaigning for Liberal Carpet-Baggers.
Some of you might remember someone called Hillary.
If we had it your way, we'd be watching ISIS cut people's heads off when we sit around the breakfast table in the morning and watch the news and we would not have the most pro-life administration ever, Trump never signed abortion into law like Reagan, you forget things like that? Thanks for nothing.
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If we had it your way, we'd be watching ISIS cut people's heads off when we sit around the breakfast table in the morning and watch the news and we would not have the most pro-life administration ever, Trump never signed abortion into law like Reagan, you forget things like that? Thanks for nothing.
If we had it my way - the Middle East would be a glass parking lot and I would not have signed a 1.5 TRILLION dollar deficit spending budget - full funding Planned Parenthood and abortion services for the next 7 year outlay like your messiah Trump just did.
GOP and Trump Fully Fund Planned Parenthood (https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/melanie-arter/budget-deal-gop-and-trump-fully-fund-planned-parenthood)
'Most pro-life admin. ever' - yeah right! <<<>>>
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If we had it my way - the Middle East would be a glass parking lot and I would not have signed a 1.5 TRILLION dollar deficit spending budget - full funding Planned Parenthood and abortion services for the next 7 year outlay like your messiah Trump just did.
GOP and Trump Fully Fund Planned Parenthood (https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/melanie-arter/budget-deal-gop-and-trump-fully-fund-planned-parenthood)
'Most pro-life admin. ever' - yeah right! <<<>>>
So, You call Ted Cruz now a Pro-Choicer for your warped values? Yes or No?
He voted for that budget deal as did other senators, but I saw an article calling Cruz a Pro-Lifer today. You don't know what you are talking about.
Hey, @INVAR, answer me this then, Who is a more pro-life president we have had? Planned Parenthood grew under W, it's been fully funded every year. Perhaps your course, crude words apply to yourself.
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So, what Prez has not funded planned parenthood? Bush 41 or 43? Reagan? Well, he signed abortion into law. Waiting for your answer. If you can't come up with a name, we see you are doing nothing but lying and are a liar. And would see Islamic terrorism and illegal immigration grow unabatedly.
Gotta a name potty mouth? Should be pretty easy, one name, if you say someone is wrong, it should be pretty easy to refute.
One link doesn't change things.
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@INVAR
I gotta link too, so what I said still stands because of the competition.
Bush's $2.2 billion gift to Planned Parenthood
Exclusive: John Lofton takes Focus on the Family to task for thanking president
Published: 10/29/2008 at 12:00 AM
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So, President Bush throws $2.2 billion down the Planned Parenthood rathole and I’m supposed to thank him for not wasting the federal tax dollars of pro-life taxpayers? Well, yes, that’s what the folks at Focus On The Family want me and others to do.
The October 2008 issue of Citizen magazine has in it (page 6) a full-page article with the headline: “Thanks, Mr. President.†A smaller headline reads: “Pro-life taxpayers can thank President Bush for keeping their dollars from being misspent.†This article is an interview with Ashley Horne, a “federal policy analyst†for Focus On The Family Action.
Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2008/10/79317/#lt1rJ5tAISCo497t.99 (http://www.wnd.com/2008/10/79317/#lt1rJ5tAISCo497t.99)
Believe me, we can dig out what the Bushes funded planned parenthood with, we can balance all of this info out.
Name? Clueless.
Cheap brownie points because one has to shut down the government for this to work and all of a sudden, Ted Cruz is a pro-choicer by this logic.
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So, You call Ted Cruz now a Pro-Choicer for your warped values? Yes or No?
So, what Prez has not funded planned parenthood? Bush 41 or 43? Reagan?
You make me laugh at the pathetic attempts to deify your political master.
You really do.
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George HW Bush had a somewhat pro-life administration, it's hard to hunt down those grant monies to Planned Parenthood in the early '90s but it is clear it was done.
https://www.liveaction.org/news/history-of-george-h-w-bushs-relationship-planned-parenthood/ (https://www.liveaction.org/news/history-of-george-h-w-bushs-relationship-planned-parenthood/)
Any pro-life website shows Trump's administration as being pro-life, planned parenthood was funded by the budget and using the logic as we have seen above, now, Ted Cruz is a pro-abortion senator because he voted for that budget. Logic is turned on its head.
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You make me laugh at the pathetic attempts to deify your political master.
You really do.
Doesn't sound like a yes or no. Seems the question was pretty simple.
English your second language? Not as amazing as your lack to debate or discuss.
So, all you have are insults, I hope the moderators look at this. You do the same with Jazzhead, talk behind his back and all of this. Your only way is to browbeat.
Mod3 will back up a crybaby, who can not talk honestly about this. I'm done here. Make your arguments, but you are the one who has done zilch, per pro-life, per fighting Islamic Extremism.
Accusing people of trying to "deify" a "political master", when this is a discussion. This person should get a suspension or ban for his dishonest style and cowardice and in lieu of debate, runs others down. It's truly sickening, this person believes they can tear others down with no repercussions of even have debate over the hatemongering they pour out.
Go join Sanguine and others who praise cussing and swearing and your abuse of other people for your King Cruz, your deity. Real big, call anything names, I'll take all Trump has done for the pro-life movement, to fight terrorists, your way would do nothing, zilch, no Christianity. Just talk.
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Doesn't sound like a yes or no. Seems the question was pretty simple.
English your second language? Not as amazing as your lack to debate or discuss.
There is a pearls and swine thing going on here - and given your broken-record incongruent mantras containing pro-life Trump cheerleading and asserting non-cheering Trump criticizers with supporting Jihad beheadings, having an honest debate with you was proven pointless quite some time ago. You spew talking points for your pet issue and little else.
So, all you have are insults, I hope the moderators look at this.
Well I hope you hit that 'report' button. That is what it is there for.
You do the same with Jazzhead, talk behind his back and all of this.
Well, that's a boldfaced lie. I post publicly and openly whatever I have to say about him or anyone else on this board. I am trying to figure out how it is you can assert anyone can 'talk behind someone's back' on a discussion forum where threads and replies are public. But hey - you think Trump is the greatest Conservative .... ever.... so imagining bizarre and disjointed actions seems to be a pedigree of yours.
Mod3 will back up a crybaby, who can not talk honestly about this. I'm done here.
Says the person crying like a baby reporting my post for the mods to look into my comments.
You do make me laugh though.
This person should get a suspension or ban for his dishonest style. It's truly sickening, this person believes they can tear others down with no repercussions of even debate the hatemongering they pour out.
I thought you were done here?
But do go cry to the mods about me, please - maybe throw a temper tantrum to them also (oh wait - you already did that and castigated Mod3). Maybe if you cry and scream about me enough, they will grow tired of your complaining and grant your wish just to shut you up about it.
Go join Sanguine and others who praise cussing and swearing and your abuse of other people for your King Cruz, your deity.
'For King Cruz'????
If you noticed my posting history - I am not exactly an ardent Cruz supporter or defender.
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Can't answer simple yes or no questions, a joke Christian has to spew hate at another. Has to call other names, talk vulgarly to them. What a phony.
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Is the swamp drained? Is crooked Hillary in jail? Is the wall built?
Sadly the answer is no, but is America GREAT AGAIN! Hell YES! :patriot:
A year ago these two guys couldn't stand each other, but today both men recognize that America is once again GREAT.
I don't know if it was the historic tax cut, or the historic budget, but when republicans can bridge the huge gap between the last GOP Presidential nominee and the one immediately before him....it shows an unexpected intelligence.
I don't expect it to last for very long.
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Can't answer simple yes or no questions, a joke Christian has to spew hate at another. Has to call other names, talk vulgarly to them. What a phony.
Make sure you hit that 'report button' there pal.
Because , you know - it's HATE to disagree with a Trump supporter who just accused you of wanting to watch ISIS behead people because we do not dance and shout and rejoice about how pro-Life Trump is after you took issue over the fact I said: "Trump has a history of endorsing, funding and campaigning for Liberal Carpet-Baggers".
This is all about the fact you cannot handle any criticism of your political messiah. It's blasphemy to you.
Okay fine. It's blasphemy that a son of thunder calls your president and his party a fraud.
Go report that to the mods now as 'hate' and 'name calling'.
It's obviously what you are good at doing.
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If we had it your way, we'd be watching ISIS cut people's heads off when we sit around the breakfast table in the morning and watch the news and we would not have the most pro-life administration ever, Trump never signed abortion into law like Reagan, you forget things like that? Thanks for nothing.
Not your finest moment Sir.
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It's blasphemy that a son of thunder calls your president and his party a fraud.
This is your finest moment.
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If we had it your way, we'd be watching ISIS cut people's heads off when we sit around the breakfast table in the morning and watch the news and we would not have the most pro-life administration ever, Trump never signed abortion into law like Reagan, you forget things like that? Thanks for nothing.
I have taken a few week hiatus from here because of your disgusting fooiishment. If this comment doesn't get you banned, I have no hope for TBR.
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I have taken a few week hiatus from here because of your disgusting fooiishment. If this comment doesn't get you banned, I have no hope for TBR.
Please don't let an occasionally unhinged person drive you off.
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Please don't let an occasionally unhinged person drive you off.
Problem is that this disgusting individual was never "hinged"
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Problem is that this disgusting individual was never "hinged"
You have just called another poster disgusting.
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You have just called another poster disgusting.
Another?.... uh nope just the one.
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Another?.... uh nope just the one.
OK. You have called TomSea disgusting. You are wrong and you should apologize.
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OK. You have called TomSea disgusting. You are wrong and you should apologize.
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OK. You have called TomSea disgusting. You are wrong and you should apologize.
You're wanting him to apologize to someone who has wished violence on people not supporting Trump. Granted he's not the only one here that has done that...but I don't recall any apologies for that kind of churlish behavior.
Just sayin... :whistle:
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Donny endorsing Mittens...it's gonna be fun watching spin and justifications for this.
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Donny endorsing Mittens...it's gonna be fun watching spin and justifications for this.
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Swamp oil is the best lubricant... :whistle:
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Holy unhingedness Trumpman. Man, I miss almost all the late night weirdness anymore since Dad started making me go to bed early. Glad I was able to catch some of it this morning; start my day off with a laugh.
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I think Romney's gonna run for President. Maybe in 2020.
Why else would I get his political ads here in Florida.
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I worked hard for Romney’s campaign bid to unseat Obama. Seems that was the only logical thing to do considering Obama was running the most corrupt administration I had ever seen.
Trump is right to endorse Romney and I suspect that a President Ted Cruz would have also endorsed him.
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Trump is right to endorse Romney and I suspect that a President Ted Cruz would have also endorsed him.
As Reagan would have.
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What a wonderful "damned if he does, damned if he doesn't" moment this is for those who do not support the President and would prefer to take potshots at him from behind an anonymous keyboard.
If the President had not endorsed Romney he would have been covered with bile from these keyboard warriors for not supporting his own party and for being too self centered to move beyond the 2016 campaign --- ushering in a 17 page thread on the state of the President's mental health and the wounds inflicted on Ted Cruz.
But now that the President has endorsed Romney they're left with the "liberal, Clinton-loving bullsh*t card" --- or more accurately: The predictable and boring short end of the stick. Couldn't happen to a more deserving group. 88devil
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What a wonderful "damned if he does, damned if he doesn't" moment this is for those who do not support the President and would prefer to take potshots at him from behind an anonymous keyboard.
If the President had not endorsed Romney he would have been covered with bile from these keyboard warriors for not supporting his own party and for being too self centered to move beyond the 2016 campaign --- ushering in a 17 page thread on the state of the President's mental health and the wounds inflicted on Ted Cruz.
But now that the President has endorsed Romney they're left with the "liberal, Clinton-loving bullsh*t card" --- or more accurately: The predictable and boring short end of the stick. Couldn't happen to a more deserving group. 88devil
I think you're right about one thing, but in a more general way than you intended; politics is and probably always will be a damned if you do and damned if you don't "sport".
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Can't answer simple yes or no questions, a joke Christian has to spew hate at another. Has to call other names, talk vulgarly to them. What a phony.
Are you referring to a poster, or President Trump?
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I worked hard for Romney’s campaign bid to unseat Obama. Seems that was the only logical thing to do considering Obama was running the most corrupt administration I had ever seen.
Good!
Trump is right to endorse Romney and I suspect that a President Ted Cruz would have also endorsed him.
Exactly. The problem is that Trump was stupid with his earlier childish tweets.
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OK. You have called TomSea disgusting. You are wrong and you should apologize.
I don't believe that your "Not your finest moment, sir" was an appropriate response to the disgusting, violent post of the one you are defending.
The word "disgusting" was mild compared to the comment made that caused the reaction.
Why are you excusing it? Because you now too are a blind supporter of Trump? Or another reason?
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Good!
Exactly. The problem is that Trump was stupid with his earlier childish tweets.
And yet his supporters refuse to see that his own tweets damn him as much as his opponents do.....
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OK. You have called TomSea disgusting. You are wrong and you should apologize.
Never Trumpers like @catfish1957 will seize any opportunity, one can not resort to the gutter like these people including @INVAR. They stand on the same side as Planned Parenthood. One could see Invar in no way could even address the issues. On ignore.
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I have taken a few week hiatus from here because of your disgusting fooiishment. If this comment doesn't get you banned, I have no hope for TBR.
Not that anyone cares, or should, but there are many more like you. Most active threads here are very predictable: first few pages are devoted to discussion of the topic, the next 20 pages devolve into snippy personal attacks. It's no longer cute, or humorous...simply boring. It used to take me at least an hour to delve into what's being discussed here. Now, a couple of minutes usually suffices.
About the only difference now between TOS & TBR is that those who don't genuflect before Trump aren't zotted here. Of course, the Orange Brigadiers here secretly hope for that...maybe not so secretly. :rolling:
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I don't believe that your "Not your finest moment, sir" was an appropriate response to the disgusting, violent post of the one you are defending.
The word "disgusting" was mild compared to the comment made that caused the reaction.
Why are you excusing it? Because you now too are a blind supporter of Trump? Or another reason?
If we used Invar's logic, we would be calling you never Trumpers, abortion lovers and that it is your God. Invar couldn't debate one issue.
With Trump, we see the abortion industry taken to task, no small thanks to you Trump haters, we see terrorists of the worse kind, ISIS defeated. Yet, you want to lay a shame trip on other people.
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@Night Hides Not falsely accused someone of posting an article at TOS, batting .000.
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I don't believe that your "Not your finest moment, sir" was an appropriate response to the disgusting, violent post of the one you are defending.
The word "disgusting" was mild compared to the comment made that caused the reaction.
Why are you excusing it? Because you now too are a blind supporter of Trump? Or another reason?
What comment? It's acceptable to say to people they are "full of ....."; this you excuse? Figures.
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@Night Hides Not falsely accused someone of posting an article at TOS, batting .000.
@TomSea
Didn't do that, and please refrain from pinging me.
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Doesn't sound like a yes or no. Seems the question was pretty simple.
English your second language? Not as amazing as your lack to debate or discuss.
So, all you have are insults, I hope the moderators look at this. You do the same with Jazzhead, talk behind his back and all of this. Your only way is to browbeat.
Mod3 will back up a crybaby, who can not talk honestly about this. I'm done here. Make your arguments, but you are the one who has done zilch, per pro-life, per fighting Islamic Extremism.
Accusing people of trying to "deify" a "political master", when this is a discussion. This person should get a suspension or ban for his dishonest style and cowardice and in lieu of debate, runs others down. It's truly sickening, this person believes they can tear others down with no repercussions of even have debate over the hatemongering they pour out.
Go join Sanguine and others who praise cussing and swearing and your abuse of other people for your King Cruz, your deity. Real big, call anything names, I'll take all Trump has done for the pro-life movement, to fight terrorists, your way would do nothing, zilch, no Christianity. Just talk.
@TomSea, couple of points: first, it's polite to ping someone to posts when you're using their names in vain, particularly where you're making up scurrilous lies about them.
Secondly, as usual, I have no idea what you're talking about. "King Cruz, your deity"? Praise of cussing and swearing? What on earth are you going on about?
Don't use me in your off-the-deep-end posts in the future.
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Not that anyone cares, or should, but there are many more like you. Most active threads here are very predictable: first few pages are devoted to discussion of the topic, the next 20 pages devolve into snippy personal attacks. It's no longer cute, or humorous...simply boring. It used to take me at least an hour to delve into what's being discussed here. Now, a couple of minutes usually suffices.
I hate when that happens...sometimes we can get the thread back on topic but when we can't and the personal attacks continue I/we are forced to lock it for awhile or just shut it down. I guess when you can't defend your position you have to resort to personal attacks.
About the only difference now between TOS & TBR is that those who don't genuflect before Trump aren't zotted here. Of course, the Orange Brigadiers here secretly hope for that...maybe not so secretly. :rolling:
You are correct...I do not zot for opinions....I will give timeouts and eventually ban if a member continues to attack another member with inults.
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If we had it your way, we'd be watching ISIS cut people's heads off when we sit around the breakfast table in the morning and watch the news and we would not have the most pro-life administration ever, Trump never signed abortion into law like Reagan, you forget things like that? Thanks for nothing.
@TomSea - this comment is vile and inexcusable, idiotic and a downright lie.
I am not "excusing" anyone's comments to you (so your "figures" is also a stupid response, and a failed deflection of your own guilt).
What I am doing is saying that you make bizarre and dishonest attacks on those who don't love Trump, and defend his inexcusable behavior, and that is something that your conscience should be alerting you to.
I suspect it is, and that you are allowing your love for Trump to silence what the Lord is trying to tell you about your vicious words.....
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@TomSea, couple of points: first, it's polite to ping someone to posts when you're using their names in vain, particularly where you're making up scurrilous lies about them.
Secondly, as usual, I have no idea what you're talking about. "King Cruz, your deity"? Praise of cussing and swearing? What on earth are you going on about?
Don't use me in your off-the-deep-end posts in the future.
@Sanguine - the accusations are bizarre and completely without merit. :shrug:
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Not that anyone cares, or should, but there are many more like you. Most active threads here are very predictable: first few pages are devoted to discussion of the topic, the next 20 pages devolve into snippy personal attacks. It's no longer cute, or humorous...simply boring. It used to take me at least an hour to delve into what's being discussed here. Now, a couple of minutes usually suffices.
Takes two to Samba. One side or the other can quit the petty sniping at any time.
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I hate when that happens...sometimes we can get the thread back on topic but when we can't and the personal attacks continue I/we are forced to lock it for awhile or just shut it down. I guess when you can't defend your position you have to resort to personal attacks.
You are correct...I do not zot for opinions....I will give timeouts and eventually ban if a member continues to attack another member with inults.
Luv ya, ak!!!
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@TomSea
Tom I have warned you before about accusing non-Trump voters of being Pro-Abortion...this is the last time I am telling you to stop it.
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Lynching Map, be proud of your Southern Heritage (sarcasm), I'm related to Stonewall Jackson and I am, but I'm not going to use that to push hateful statements like "Peeing on General Sherman's grave"- Catfish1957 and the like. Jackson's direct family has also come out against those who exploit the flag. No need for the pro-slavery crowd which is what a lot of these arguments come out to.
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@RoosGirl @catfish1957
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@TomSea
Tom I have warned you before about accusing non-Trump voters of being Pro-Abortion...this is the last time I am telling you to stop it.
To be fair, Non-Trumpers should not be accusing those who merely supported the nominee as I did Bush, of supporting a carpetbagger, a king, a messiah? These people throw that at others, and then, this is off-limits.
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@TomSea, couple of points: first, it's polite to ping someone to posts when you're using their names in vain, particularly where you're making up scurrilous lies about them.
Secondly, as usual, I have no idea what you're talking about. "King Cruz, your deity"? Praise of cussing and swearing? What on earth are you going on about?
Don't use me in your off-the-deep-end posts in the future.
@TomSea is an unmitigated liar. Nothing but an Orange attack dog, who has no basis of any comments, except to lie or degrade anyone who might not agree with DJT. How he has not been banned is a mystery to me.
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No need for the pro-slavery crowd which is what a lot of these arguments come out to.
Damnit Tom....tell me who is pro-slavery on this forum...
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I hate when that happens...sometimes we can get the thread back on topic but when we can't and the personal attacks continue I/we are forced to lock it for awhile or just shut it down. I guess when you can't defend your position you have to resort to personal attacks.
You are correct...I do not zot for opinions....I will give timeouts and eventually ban if a member continues to attack another member with inults.
ZOT? Really? Are we doing that now?
That is a word? that I haven't heard in years. Brings back a lot of memories.
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hateful statements like "Peeing on General Sherman's grave"- Catfish1957 and the like.
@RoosGirl @catfish1957
Your lack of understanding of hyperbole only further proves how stupid you are.
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I think you're right about one thing, but in a more general way than you intended; politics is and probably always will be a damned if you do and damned if you don't "sport".
IMO Romney is even further left then Trump appeared to be prior to his campaign
Only Romney has proven it by the actions he's taken in office. Yes Romney is a successful business man. That doesn't mean he has a conservative bone in his body.
He was better then Obama at the time but its beyond time for this man to fade away and enjoy his retirement. Utah has to be able to put up a better choice then this flake.
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Damnit Tom....tell me who is pro-slavery on this forum...
As I stated Myst. There is always one bad apple in the playground who can not play well with others. His countless accusations have become tiring.
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Let's try and get this thread back on topic....
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ZOT? Really? Are we doing that now?
That is a word? that I haven't heard in years. Brings back a lot of memories.
@240B
Viking kitties have been done and sorely abused. I propose Viking squirrels!!!!
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For the benefit of all Briefers sanity I hope Trump doesn't endorse Cruz, besides like Mitt, it is not essential to his reelection.
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Takes two to Samba. One side or the other can quit the petty sniping at any time.
Most of the time, you're absolutely correct. Not so with more Trumpsters than NT's...it's been my experience in trying to interact with Trump supporters, it's not the Trump way to ever leave attack mode...anything else is seen as weakness and a violation of MAGA.
This has been going on for over two years, and there is no end in sight.
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Most of the time, you're absolutely correct. Not so with more Trumpsters than NT's...it's been my experience in trying to interact with Trump supporters, it's not the Trump way to ever leave attack mode...anything else is seen as weakness and a violation of MAGA.
This has been going on for over two years, and there is no end in sight.
Trumpsters eh
Pot meet kettle
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For the benefit of all Briefers sanity I hope Trump doesn't endorse Cruz, besides like Mitt, it is not essential to his reelection.
Won't be necessary, Corbe. Ted won 259 of 263 counties in the 2016 primary. Trump won the other four, all of which had vote counts under 200.
I know our friends in the Orange Brigade love history, so I'll point this out for their benefit: no statewide candidate from El Paso has ever won. Beto may do well in the large cities, but Ted owns the suburbs.
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We do it because it is fun. Isn't that what the site is all about.
It is stimulating to get all riled up over nothing.
That is what made TOS what it used to be in the early 2000s.
Back then, it was all about freeform fun. No rules.
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We do it because it is fun. Isn't that what the site is all about.
It is stimulating to get all riled up over nothing.
That is what made TOS what it used to be in the early 2000s.
Back then, it was all about freeform fun. No rules.
Yeah... then all the sudden The owner and his lackeys got the idea it was a good idea to ban Cruz conservatives.
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We do it because it is fun. Isn't that what the site is all about.
It is stimulating to get all riled up over nothing.
That is what made TOS what it used to be in the early 2000s.
Back then, it was all about freeform fun. No rules.
@240B
Quote of the DAY!!!
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I am ashamed and embarrassed that I did get the dreaded ZOT, from JR himself.
He told me to F**k Off.
Only because I told him that I was going to give him the ZOT after one of his crazy weirdo posts. LOL
The memories back then. Life is a crazy place to live.
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Most active threads here are very predictable: first few pages are devoted to discussion of the topic, the next 20 pages devolve into snippy personal attacks. It's no longer cute, or humorous...simply boring.
On this, I fully agree.
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@240B
Quote of the DAY!!!
Frankly, I was more impressed with his posting a song from Led Zeppelin. :seeya:
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I am ashamed and embarrassed that I did get the dreaded ZOT, from JR himself.
He told me to F**k Off.
Only because I told him that I was going to give him the ZOT after one of his crazy weirdo posts. LOL
The memories back then. Life is a crazy place to live.
Since then, the fundraisers have become endless, lasting until the 15th day of the third month, ending only after sleight of hand accounting gimmicks. The fact that he continues to bring in over $300K a year in "donations" is befuddling.
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Frankly, I was more impressed with his posting a song from Led Zeppelin. :seeya:
By saying that I can tell that you do not understand what I was doing, and that is understandable. Us old guys, we have a history. We understand each other.
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Won't be necessary, Corbe. Ted won 259 of 263 counties in the 2016 primary. Trump won the other four, all of which had vote counts under 200.
I've a few questions that I've been wanting to ask for quite a while:
Will there ever be a moment in time when Briefers can agree the 2016 election is over and put it in a lockbox behind us? If one of the "Orange Brigade" needs to start this movement .... I will volunteer for the mission. I will no longer engage a poster who reopens debate on the primary or general election and this includes the difficulties between candidates Trump and Cruz . I encourage others to do the same.
Will there be a moment in time when Briefers agree we have a common enemy --- one that is corrupt, powerful and in control of the political narrative? And that this enemy --- like him or not, voted for him or not --- is not the President?
Can we agree we are on the same side, the same team with the same goals: National security including a well-finance and supported military, a right to sovereignty should be inherent in our border regulations and immigration policy, sound economic policies promoting limited regulations, lower taxation, business expansion and greater job opportunities for the American worker, a judiciary tethered to the Constitution of the United States, and the right to life is the most basic right and protecting it is rightfully expected from our government?
If we can't agree that the election is over, the President is not the enemy, and while method and process may differ, achieving these goals is a shared objective, then I no longer know why TBR is here or why I'm a part of it @mystery-ak
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I've a few questions that I've been wanting to ask for quite a while:
Will there ever be a moment in time when Briefers can agree the 2016 election is over and put it in a lockbox behind us? If one of the "Orange Brigade" needs to start this movement .... I will volunteer for the mission. I will no longer engage a poster who reopens debate on the primary or general election and this includes the difficulties between candidates Trump and Cruz . I encourage others to do the same.
Will there be a moment in time when Briefers agree we have a common enemy --- one that is corrupt, powerful and in control of the political narrative? And that this enemy --- like him or not, voted for him or not --- is not the President?
Can we agree we are on the same side, the same team with the same goals: National security including a well-finance and supported military, a right to sovereignty should be inherent in our border regulations and immigration policy, sound economic policies promoting limited regulations, lower taxation, business expansion and greater job opportunities for the American worker, a judiciary tethered to the Constitution of the United States, and the right to life is the most basic right and protecting it is rightfully expected from our government?
If we can't agree that the election is over, the President is not the enemy, and while method and process may differ, achieving these goals is a shared objective, then I no longer know why TBR is here or why I'm a part of it @mystery-ak
@Right_in_Virginia, I believe you to be sincere in your proposition. But - here's the problem: ETs (EverTrumpers) refuse to admit that the primaries were dirty and Trump did wrong to a number of people and candidates. And, that's the whole crux of the thing as I see it.
If Trump supporters can admit that we've got a seriously flawed winner, who is doing some very good things, and some not so good things, I think we can put the rancor aside and move on with what we've actually got.
Until that happens, speaking for myself, I think we have a bunch of ETs who are unable or unwilling to see the problem areas in Trump and if you don't see them, you don't deal with them.
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YES, @Right_in_Virginia good questions and all these utopian things are possible as soon as Myst and her Mods ZOT all the NT'ers from here. You and a few of your Brothers in Arms here are under the false impression that US 'Haters' believe Trump is the enemy and that is not correct, The Uniparty is our enemy. Just my two centavos.
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@Right_in_Virginia, I believe you to be sincere in your proposition. But - here's the problem: ETs (EverTrumpers) refuse to admit that the primaries were dirty and Trump did wrong to a number of people and candidates. And, that's the whole crux of the thing as I see it.
If Trump supporters can admit that we've got a seriously flawed winner, who is doing some very good things, and some not so good things, I think we can put the rancor aside and move on with what we've actually got.
Until that happens, speaking for myself, I think we have a bunch of ETs who are unable or unwilling to see the problem areas in Trump and if you don't see them, you don't deal with them.
goopo
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@Right_in_Virginia, I believe you to be sincere in your proposition. But - here's the problem: ETs (EverTrumpers) refuse to admit that the primaries were dirty and Trump did wrong to a number of people and candidates. And, that's the whole crux of the thing as I see it.
If Trump supporters can admit that we've got a seriously flawed winner, who is doing some very good things, and some not so good things, I think we can put the rancor aside and move on with what we've actually got.
Until that happens, speaking for myself, I think we have a bunch of ETs who are unable or unwilling to see the problem areas in Trump and if you don't see them, you don't deal with them.
@Sanguine
I think you need to take another look. Nearly all Trump supporters have made statements acknowledging Trump is less then perfect and ran a dirty campaign.
No it's you NT that constantly lump everyone into the same box and then ridicule.
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YES, @Right_in_Virginia good questions and all these utopian things are possible as soon as Myst and her Mods ZOT all the NT'ers from here. You and a few of your Brothers in Arms here are under the false impression that US 'Haters' believe Trump is the enemy and that is not correct, The Uniparty is our enemy. Just my two centavos.
Just you @corbe
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@Sanguine
I think you need to take another look. Nearly all Trump supporters have made statements acknowledging Trump is less then perfect and ran a dirty campaign.
No it's you NT that constantly lump everyone into the same box and then ridicule.
@driftdiver, I'm not a NT. I voted for Trump.
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@Sanguine
I think you need to take another look. Nearly all Trump supporters have made statements acknowledging Trump is less then perfect and ran a dirty campaign.
You have. Others have not.
No it's you NT that constantly lump everyone into the same box and then ridicule.
@Sanguine does not fit into your teeny tiny "NT" box, and you know it.
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I am ashamed and embarrassed that I did get the dreaded ZOT, from JR himself.
He told me to F**k Off.
Only because I told him that I was going to give him the ZOT after one of his crazy weirdo posts. LOL
The memories back then. Life is a crazy place to live.
At least you got that from him. I just tried to log on one day only to discover I'd been given a permanent soft zot.
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@driftdiver, I'm not a NT. I voted for Trump.
Gross generalizations are all they've got. It's absolutely absurd to include you in any villainous category.
But again........ it's all they've got.
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Will there ever be a moment in time when Briefers can agree the 2016 election is over and put it in a lockbox behind us?
I commend your "high road" approach to mending fences here. But I guarantee , that when anyone says or questions anything around DJT's judgement, that the insults will start flying from your side. It has just happened too many times to think otherwise.
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@Sanguine
I think you need to take another look. Nearly all Trump supporters have made statements acknowledging Trump is less then perfect and ran a dirty campaign.
Can you provide some examples. I seem to just remember them in lock step 100% of the time.
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For months Romney has made it abundantly clear he does not like Donald Trump. It’s also clear he wants to be in the Senate so that he can be the leader of the anti-Trumpers in congress.
And yet here’s Donald Trump, just now announced he will endorse Romney.
Hmm...I think in their recent conversations a deal has been struck. Trump’s no dummy. He’s getting something outta this endorsement.
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@driftdiver, I'm not a NT. I voted for Trump.
Well I am a NT and I voted for Trump.
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At least you got that from him. I just tried to log on one day only to discover I'd been given a permanent soft zot.
I walked away and never looked back.
I just pray that the ET's don't succeed in their attempts to turn this place into a TOS, where disparate thought is squelched.
There are those who have left here because it is moving in that direction, and I really hope they come back.
We need BALANCE. Civil, respectful BALANCE.
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@Right_in_Virginia, I believe you to be sincere in your proposition. But - here's the problem: ETs (EverTrumpers) refuse to admit that the primaries were dirty and Trump did wrong to a number of people and candidates. And, that's the whole crux of the thing as I see it.
If Trump supporters can admit that we've got a seriously flawed winner, who is doing some very good things, and some not so good things, I think we can put the rancor aside and move on with what we've actually got.
Until that happens, speaking for myself, I think we have a bunch of ETs who are unable or unwilling to see the problem areas in Trump and if you don't see them, you don't deal with them.
So, the answer is "no" we still are not on the same team. Nothing will satisfy you @Sanguine because IMO, the *reasoned* explanation you posted above is just plain, bleeping stupid and stupid cannot be fixed.
TBR is still caught in a twisted, convoluted time warp and apparently, happily so. What a waste this is and so very pathetic.
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I walked away and never looked back.
I just pray that the ET's don't succeed in their attempts to turn this place into a TOS, where disparate thought is squelched.
There are those who have left here because it is moving in that direction, and I really hope they come back.
We need BALANCE. Civil, respectful BALANCE.
You don't have to worry about that. This place has strong management and despite the best and continuous efforts by a handful of disruptors you won't see TBR turn orange ant time soon.
It's probably one of the more balanced places for both sides of the issue.
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I walked away and never looked back.
I just pray that the ET's don't succeed in their attempts to turn this place into a TOS, where disparate thought is squelched.
There are those who have left here because it is moving in that direction, and I really hope they come back.
We need BALANCE. Civil, respectful BALANCE.
I know and it breaks my heart that they feel they have been run off. I want TBR to remain neutral where politics can be discussed freely and ALL politicians are subject to scrutiny....TBR WILL not become a Pro-Trump site!
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Can you provide some examples. I seem to just remember them in lock step 100% of the time.
@driftdiver is the only example I've seen.
He's said basically, Trump is a moral reprobate, but we knew that so, no big deal.....
Something like that...... :shrug:
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So, the answer is "no" we still are not on the same team. Nothing will satisfy you @Sanguine because IMO, the *reasoned* explanation you posted above is just plain, bleeping stupid and stupid cannot be fixed.
TBR is still caught in a twisted, convoluted time warp and apparently, happily so. What a waste this is and so very pathetic.
*****rollingeyes***** oh the drama.
You and a few others around here will never be satisfied until the "refugees" as you call them and any one else who doesn't give your idol the proper amount of respect in your slanted opinion are completely gone from here.
Hate to inform you we're here to stay.
That "convoluted time warp is one of your own making by the way.
Now run along and wilt some more flowers.
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TBR is still caught in a twisted, convoluted time warp and apparently, happily so. What a waste this is and so very pathetic.
I am sorry you feel that way..there are other options out there for you.
It is not a time-warp...members here are free to discuss any politician, including the President, when they think he/she is wrong.
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I know and it breaks my heart that they feel they have been run off. I want TBR to remain neutral where politics can be discussed freely and ALL politicians are subject to scrutiny....TBR WILL not become a Pro-Trump site!
The concept of freedom is a difficult thing to maintain.
If the pro-Trump, nothing but Trump folks around here feel like they should be able to dictate what goes on, they start doing it...... and the more they do it, the less comfortable people who have significant issues with Trump feel posting their disagreements.
The bombastic fighters will remain, but a lot of moderate, softer spoken opponents of what Trump is doing would rather walk away.
I know the Trump folks don't believe it because I am in their teeny tiny box and subject to ridicule, but I actually want TBR to express all sides of the debate. I want to see rational pro-Trump arguments and rational anti-Trump arguments...... especially on subjects where I don't feel well versed enough to comment and just lurk.
Some people just can't let that happen............. and I do understand why the result is that people who have trouble with Trump choose to walk away.
I think that's the goal of a few here, and it breaks my heart that they seem to be succeeding in driving others away.
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I know and it breaks my heart that they feel they have been run off. I want TBR to remain neutral where politics can be discussed freely and ALL politicians ....
Then, respectfully @mystery-ak may I suggest in the interest of transparency you replace the photo of Ronald Reagan in the masthead with a photo of a big, empty tent?
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So, the answer is "no" we still are not on the same team. Nothing will satisfy you @Sanguine because IMO, the *reasoned* explanation you posted above is just plain, bleeping stupid and stupid cannot be fixed.
TBR is still caught in a twisted, convoluted time warp and apparently, happily so. What a waste this is and so very pathetic.
Oh, no, RIV, I do believe "stupid can be fixed". First of all, you have to use the word properly - just because someone doesn't agree with you doesn't make them stupid. In fact, and not casting any aspersions here, demonizing someone who doesn't agree with you is a global leftist tactic.
Secondly, as an integral step in the quest to rid you of your stupidity, you have to admit that there are other opinions. You really don't think yours is the only one of value do you?
Now there are roughly three groups of people here: ETs, (a very few) NTs and those of us who cringe at some of Trump's character flaws and egregious abuses of others, but who also support his presidency, are deeply, deeply thankful that Clinton didn't win, and would like to see a concerted effort to encourage his nascent conservatism and curb his more damaging impulses.
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*****rollingeyes***** oh the drama.
You and a few others around here will never be satisfied until the "refugees" as you call them and any one else who doesn't give your idol the proper amount of respect in your slanted opinion are completely gone from here.
Hate to inform you we're here to stay. That "convoluted time warp is one of your own making by the way.
Now run along and wilt some more flowers.
Will do @txradioguy :patriot:
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You don't have to worry about that. This place has strong management and despite the best and continuous efforts by a handful of disruptors you won't see TBR turn orange ant time soon.
It's probably one of the more balanced places for both sides of the issue.
I agree that the management here is stellar (THANK you, @mystery-ak and Mods), and that it is still balanced. And my feet are firmly planted, the ET's desires notwithstanding.
I have just sensed (along with some others), that the ET's are feeling emboldened to try to drive some of the rest of us away...... and I don't want to see good people who help provide that balance go anywhere else.
@txradioguy
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If Trump supporters can admit that we've got a seriously flawed winner,
I admit Trump played as dirty as it took, to gain victory.
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Then, respectfully @mystery-ak may I suggest in the interest of transparency you replace the photo of Ronald Reagan in the masthead with a photo of a big, empty tent?
The Repub Big Tent idea was RR's...where all factions of the GOP were welcome..that has been TBR's view from the very beginning but you know that. We can all *live*together and still have different ideas/opinions and TBR was to be a place to discuss them.
I am considering replacing the banner when we update the forum...but not for the reason you stated.
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I am sorry you feel that way..there are other options out there for you.
It is not a time-warp...members here are free to discuss any politician, including the President, when they think he/she is wrong.
Disagreeing with the President is not the issue I raised @mystery-ak I was hoping for confirmation that at least on the issues and the goals for our nation we were on the same page ... the same team, even if we don't always like the coach. I'm sorry you missed this.
But thanks for the reminder --- always good to hear from the owner of the forum who not too long ago considered me a respected colleague in political debate.
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I admit Trump played as dirty as it took, to gain victory.
And that winning at any price, at any cost, was a good thing......
(Now don't go calling me a Hillary lover. Just address the issue that you thought that there should be no restrictions on Trump's behavior or ethics, as long as he gained "victory.")
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Will there ever be a moment in time when Briefers can agree the 2016 election is over and put it in a lockbox behind us?
You would love that wouldn't you? Insist that we forget all the broken promises, the threats made on refuseniks, the declarations that anyone voting 3rd party or writing-in were "Hillary supporters", "Enemies of the state", etc., etc. Forget that ObamaCare remains intact and is fully funded sans the mandate penalty that is being rediscussed. Forgot that your party and Trump just outspent Obama on a 1.5 TRILLION dollar deficit spending budget that funds everything Trump vowed to get rid of without any "wall" or change in illegal refugees pouring into the country.
Yeah - you want us to forget and continue to blindly support a failed and corrupted party that demonstrated its contempt for Conservatives in the last several years as it swerves ever-more Left in support of the Democrat agenda it has passed and funded.
I will no longer engage a poster who reopens debate on the primary or general election and this includes the difficulties between candidates Trump and Cruz . I encourage others to do the same.
Yeah but you'll likely continue to fling the same garbage flung at refuseniks during the election that party loyalists and Trump acolytes cannot help but continue to fling.
Will there be a moment in time when Briefers agree we have a common enemy --- one that is corrupt, powerful and in control of the political narrative? And that this enemy --- like him or not, voted for him or not --- is not the President?
Your problem is that you are set on the common enemy only being a Democrat or their base. You willfully fail to see that the common enemy is not party politics, but liberalism/Leftism/Statism infecting BOTH PARTIES. Liberal Socialism that they both embrace and both serve to the exclusion of the foundational principles Conservatives are governed by.
The 'common enemy' is Statism and Big Government liberal Socialism. You unfortunately want us to look at only Democrats as being the protagonists when your own party is right there alongside them helping to entrench it and spending us into oblivion to achieve it.
Can we agree we are on the same side, the same team with the same goals:....
Can we?? You and your fellows demonstrated that Conservative principles do not matter to you. Pragmatism matters. Populism matters. Party loyalty and party support and unwavering devotion to a man in high office matters, and is the ONLY way to achieve the goal - even when your party supports and funds the Democrat agenda. How many ridiculous justifications for why the Republicans are doing exactly what the Democrats did do we read from you and yours? You folks just continue to display the "It's okay when WE do it" meme, and then go into spin mode to justify it.
If we can't agree that the election is over, the President is not the enemy, and while method and process may differ...
'Method and process'??? That's just code for embracing Statism to supposedly 'save' Conservatism. The same thing that Bush said with: ‘I’ve Abandoned Free Market Principles To Save The Free Market System’. 'Embrace Liberal Statism to save the republic from liberal statists'. The GOP has essentially campaigned on the fact that they can manage Statism better than the Democrats can.
I no longer know why TBR is here or why I'm a part of it @mystery-ak
Personally I enjoy the arguments, defense and discussion of principles here outside the demand everyone be a cookie-cutter Republican and march in lockstep to party diktat to 'save the country from Democrats'. What we are discovering in these myriad threads - is that many people claiming to be Conservative, are not. We see a commonality that they are okay with embracing statism as long as it is their party and leader doing the fundamental transformation, albeit in smaller increments.
I like the fact this board is not a Party Loyalist board, but one that permits and fosters the open discussion of foundational principles that once shaped what defined Conservatism.
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Oh, no, RIV, I do believe "stupid can be fixed". First of all, you have to use the word properly - just because someone doesn't agree with you doesn't make them stupid. In fact, and not casting any aspersions here, demonizing someone who doesn't agree with you is a global leftist tactic.
Secondly, as an integral step in the quest to rid you of your stupidity, you have to admit that there are other opinions. You really don't think yours is the only one of value do you?
Now there are roughly three groups of people here: ETs, (a very few) NTs and those of us who cringe at some of Trump's character flaws and egregious abuses of others, but who also support his presidency, are deeply, deeply thankful that Clinton didn't win, and would like to see a concerted effort to encourage his nascent conservatism and curb his more damaging impulses.
Are we or are we not on the same team, working for the same goals for the same nation --- or is it more important that I post what you want to hear in a way you want to hear it? @Sanguine
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@driftdiver is the only example I've seen.
He's said basically, Trump is a moral reprobate, but we knew that so, no big deal.....
Something like that...... :shrug:
@musiclady
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Yeah mods deleted my statement but allowed her untruth to stand. Yeah no bias there
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@Right_in_Virginia, I believe you to be sincere in your proposition. But - here's the problem: ETs (EverTrumpers) refuse to admit that the primaries were dirty and Trump did wrong to a number of people and candidates. And, that's the whole crux of the thing as I see it.
If Trump supporters can admit that we've got a seriously flawed winner, who is doing some very good things, and some not so good things, I think we can put the rancor aside and move on with what we've actually got.
Until that happens, speaking for myself, I think we have a bunch of ETs who are unable or unwilling to see the problem areas in Trump and if you don't see them, you don't deal with them.
Dirty politics? Say it ain’t so.
And of course only Trump engaged in “dirty†politics. And Ted Cruz was an angel....
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Dirty politics? Say it ain’t so.
And of course only Trump engaged in “dirty†politics. And Ted Cruz was an angel....
@aligncare
I didn't see Cruz do anything close to what Trump did. He behaved honorably.
I think Cruz problem was he lacks the charisma needed to win in today's politics at the Presidential level. Maybe he has it but it sure didn't come through. Not that media was helping him.
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@aligncare
I didn't see Cruz do anything close to what Trump did. He behaved honorably.
I think Cruz problem was he lacks the charisma needed to win in today's politics at the Presidential level. Maybe he has it but it sure didn't come through. Not that media was helping him.
Why @driftdiver does this still matter?
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@aligncare
I didn't see Cruz do anything close to what Trump did. He behaved honorably.
I think Cruz problem was he lacks the charisma needed to win in today's politics at the Presidential level. Maybe he has it but it sure didn't come through. Not that media was helping him.
...as in when Teddy agreed with the mainstream media (following the canceled Chicago Trump rally) that Trump supporters were violent.
Funny how people see things through different colored lens...
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@aligncare
I didn't see Cruz do anything close to what Trump did. He behaved honorably.
I think Cruz problem was he lacks the charisma needed to win in today's politics at the Presidential level. Maybe he has it but it sure didn't come through. Not that media was helping him.
This, FWIW @mystery-ak is an example of the time warp I was referencing.
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Why @driftdiver does this still matter?
Because it would help you understand why many are not fully trusting and accepting of Trump.
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Why @driftdiver does this still matter?
@Right_in_Virginia
I was addressing the implication that Ted ran a dirty campaign. He didnt.
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Are we or are we not on the same team, working for the same goals for the same nation --- or is it more important that I post what you want to hear in a way you want to hear it? @Sanguine
Pretty amazing, RIV. You just ignored everything I wrote and responded with something completely unconnected. OK, you've proven me wrong. Some things can't be fixed.
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Because it would help you understand why many are not fully trusting and accepting of Trump.
Yeah, Trump’s got something socialist up his sleeve, I’m sure of it. *****rollingeyes*****
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...as in when Teddy agreed with the mainstream media (following the canceled Chicago Trump rally) that Trump supporters were violent.
Funny how people see things through different colored lens...
@aligncare
Is that the worst? Trump did some very very bad, really bad things during the primaries. He was even worse then Romney against Cain.
But yes that's history. We need to fight back the leftists hordes and so far Trump has surprisingly done some good things.
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Yeah, Trump’s got something socialist up his sleeve, I’m sure of it. *****rollingeyes*****
Well it would explain why he donated so much to the Clinton's.
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@aligncare
Is that the worst? Trump did some very very bad, really bad things during the primaries. He was even worse then Romney against Cain.
But yes that's history. We need to fight back the leftists hordes and so far Trump has surprisingly done some good things.
Thats the whole rub of this. Many of us will give Trump kudos when they warrant, but watch out if we ever say anything negative about him . Speak ill, and the orange hoard goes into attack mode lockstep.
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Well it would explain why he donated so much to the Clinton's.
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Be careful there Tx. You will end up being accused of helping Jihadists behead people because our president is the most pro-life person on the face of the planet and you dared to bring that fact up.
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Yeah, Trump’s got something socialist up his sleeve, I’m sure of it. *****rollingeyes*****
@aligncare
I think Trump is whatever he needs to be to get what he wants. He needed the Clintons so he was pals with them.
That's why I think it's so important to cooperate with him and push him to do what's right. Otherwise he will get pushed to the leftists.
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@aligncare
I think Trump is whatever he needs to be to get what he wants. He needed the Clintons so he was pals with them.
That's why I think it's so important to cooperate with him and push him to do what's right. Otherwise he will get pushed to the leftists.
Well said.
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Pretty amazing, RIV. You just ignored everything I wrote and responded with something completely unconnected. OK, you've proven me wrong. Some things can't be fixed.
I was returning you to the point of my original post @Sanguine
But you're right ... we are done here.
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@musiclady
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I think I'm glad the Mods removed your post, @driftdiver , since it was clearly inappropriate.
Keeping in mind, of course, that you were so deeply offended when I called Trump your "buddy" that you put me on Ignore, and have advised others who attacked me to do so as well.
Some people are very hard to figure out.
We OUGHT to be allies since we agree on almost everything, but my consistent stance against Trump's amorality makes that so hard for you that you either put me on Ignore, or say things so bad the Mods have to remove them.
Curious............ :shrug:
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Well it would explain why he donated so much to the Clinton's.
I give up. You win, Trump’s a closeted collectivist who only participates in capitalism as a cover for his true socialist yearnings.
I don’t know why I bother.
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I've a few questions that I've been wanting to ask for quite a while:
Will there ever be a moment in time when Briefers can agree the 2016 election is over and put it in a lockbox behind us? If one of the "Orange Brigade" needs to start this movement .... I will volunteer for the mission. I will no longer engage a poster who reopens debate on the primary or general election and this includes the difficulties between candidates Trump and Cruz . I encourage others to do the same.
Will there be a moment in time when Briefers agree we have a common enemy --- one that is corrupt, powerful and in control of the political narrative? And that this enemy --- like him or not, voted for him or not --- is not the President?
Can we agree we are on the same side, the same team with the same goals: National security including a well-finance and supported military, a right to sovereignty should be inherent in our border regulations and immigration policy, sound economic policies promoting limited regulations, lower taxation, business expansion and greater job opportunities for the American worker, a judiciary tethered to the Constitution of the United States, and the right to life is the most basic right and protecting it is rightfully expected from our government?
If we can't agree that the election is over, the President is not the enemy, and while method and process may differ, achieving these goals is a shared objective, then I no longer know why TBR is here or why I'm a part of it @mystery-ak
@Right_in_Virginia
I'm done with it and have been for so long as those on your side refrain from telling me how I "Wasted" my vote!
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The Repub Big Tent idea was RR's...
As was the 11th Commandment.
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As was the 11th Commandment.
Checkmate.
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@Right_in_Virginia
I'm done with it and have been for so long as those on your side refrain from telling me how I "Wasted" my vote!
It's the time warp thing @Bigun Apparently no side is immune from its grip!
But wouldn't it be refreshing and helpful if both sides at least tried to break free of it's grip and the old gripes it brings?!!!
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@aligncare
I didn't see Cruz do anything close to what Trump did. He behaved honorably.
I think Cruz problem was he lacks the charisma needed to win in today's politics at the Presidential level. Maybe he has it but it sure didn't come through. Not that media was helping him.
1. Cruz is a very effective legal debater.
2. He could probably get elected Senator from 25 states, plus or minus.
3. Had he been the nominee, I believe he would have lost.
4. Had he been the nominee, the dems would have waged just as dirty a fight, including Russians, Cubans, Canadians, and whatever they felt they needed to do to win.
5. Had he won the Presidency the dems would have done just as much to "sow discord," as they have done with Trump.
6. Any Republican will be opposed by the dems and most of the media.
And finally, in spite of protestations to the contrary, I believe this site thrives on the nasty infighting.
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I don’t know why I bother.
A lot of us here wonder the same thing.
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It's the time warp thing @Bigun Apparently no side is immune from its grip!
But wouldn't it be refreshing and helpful if both sides at least tried to break free of it's grip and the old gripes it brings?!!!
Donald J. Trump is now President of the United States of America and has been for over a year now.
You don't get to fight with the army you want! You fight with the army you have!
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And finally, in spite of protestations to the contrary, I believe this site thrives on the nasty infighting.
We thrive on honest, intelligent debate. It's not an echo chamber, and it's possible to learn from people with differing opinions.
Those who might make it nasty at this forum are not helpful.
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1. Cruz is a very effective legal debater.
2. He could probably get elected Senator from 25 states, plus or minus.
3. Had he been the nominee, I believe he would have lost.
4. Had he been the nominee, the dems would have waged just as dirty a fight, including Russians, Cubans, Canadians, and whatever they felt they needed to do to win.
5. Had he won the Presidency the dems would have done just as much to "sow discord," as they have done with Trump.
6. Any Republican will be opposed by the dems and most of the media.
And finally, in spite of protestations to the contrary, I believe this site thrives on the nasty infighting.
And I honestly believe some here cannot distinguish between honest debate and "infighting".
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@Right_in_Virginia
I was addressing the implication that Ted ran a dirty campaign. He didnt.
Ted is the very epitome of a classy fellow. But in war and politics, classy fellows don't always come in first.
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@aligncare
I think Trump is whatever he needs to be to get what he wants. He needed the Clintons so he was pals with them.
That's why I think it's so important to cooperate with him and push him to do what's right. Otherwise he will get pushed to the leftists.
Can you point to something specific you've done to "push" Trump to do "what's right?"
btw, that doesn't include attacking people who are more conservative than Trump on discussion boards.
Something specific that has moved Trump to the right.
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Donny endorsing Mittens...it's gonna be fun watching spin and justifications for this.
:silly:
Didn't you get the memo?
If we don't accept this at face value, we all want jihad and abortions.
It was all written here earlier.
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Well it would explain why he donated so much to the Clinton's.
When I worked for a global multinational, one "additional duty" was tracking political donations. I learned then, major corporations give to BOTH parties.
I learned that while the political inclinations of the officers were decidedly conservative, and the same for the industry (oil land oil services), the shareholders' best interests were served by having access to both parties' representatives.
Trump explained this over and over.
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Ted is the very epitome of a classy fellow. But in war and politics, classy fellows don't always come in first.
Which is why, of course, we need to excuse anything unethical or immoral Trump's done to "come in first."
Right?
(This is not the "nasty infighting" that you supposedly hate about TBR. This is a legitimate ethical question).
Do we excuse anything he does because he wins??
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Donald J. Trump is now President of the United States of America and has been for over a year now.
You don't get to fight with the army you want! You fight with the army you have!
Yes. But it is also important to hold him to standards and values that we hold.
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Can you point to something specific you've done to "push" Trump to do "what's right?"
btw, that doesn't include attacking people who are more conservative than Trump on discussion boards.
Something specific that has moved Trump to the right.
@musiclady
I have you on ignore for a reason and sometimes unwisely press the button to see the nonsense posted. Curiosity kills the cat so to speak.
I prefer not to converse with people who knowingly misconstrue and misrelate what I say.
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Yes. But it is also important to hold him to standards and values that we hold.
Absolutely! And I'm unaware of anyone ever saying that we shouldn't.
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As was the 11th Commandment.
Oooo..you got me.../s
Speaking of a time warp...
Times have changed since RR's presidency...people now have the ability to voice their opinions with others via the internet..I wonder what RR would think of Trump?
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Do we excuse anything he does because he wins??
@musiclady you know as well as I do for some people here the answer to that is a responding yes.
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Lynching Map, be proud of your Southern Heritage (sarcasm), I'm related to Stonewall Jackson and I am, but I'm not going to use that to push hateful statements like "Peeing on General Sherman's grave"- Catfish1957 and the like. Jackson's direct family has also come out against those who exploit the flag. No need for the pro-slavery crowd which is what a lot of these arguments come out to.
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@RoosGirl @catfish1957
It's official, you've lost it.
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@musiclady
I have you on ignore for a reason and sometimes unwisely press the button to see the nonsense posted. Curiosity kills the cat so to speak.
I prefer not to converse with people who knowingly misconstrue and misrelate what I say.
Except that I don't. And it was the Mod who removed your nasty post. I never saw it.
Stop projecting your own failings on others.
And by all means, keep me on Ignore. I have no need to put you there, in spite of your nastiness and continuing to misconstrue what I say, but if you are so fragile that you can't tolerate differences, feel free to keep me on Ignore ad infinitum.
Just keep in mind you're missing some good conversation with a like-minded conservative because of your hyper sensitivity.
@driftdiver
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As was the 11th Commandment.
But when a church becomes apostate and begins preaching and acting upon a different doctrine - using the 11th Commandment to force principled people to remain in it out of fear of hell and Democrats, is the power a newfound cult has to keep from losing its members.
Of course the Clergy like Trump are absolved from following the Commandments that they preach that the rest of the faithful must adhere to, or be declared a heretic or a Hillary supporter.
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@aligncare
I think Trump is whatever he needs to be to get what he wants. He needed the Clintons so he was pals with them.
That's why I think it's so important to cooperate with him and push him to do what's right. Otherwise he will get pushed to the leftists.
:thumbsup:
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It's official, you've lost it.
LONG time ago!
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@musiclady you know as well as I do for some people here the answer to that is a responding yes.
Indeed. No matter what he does, or how he's done it, there are those who say it doesn't matter because he's on "our side."
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And I honestly believe some here cannot distinguish between honest debate and "infighting".
As a Californian I was really, really pissed when our beloved President Reagan, gave us amnesty. I say so repeatedly.
That should prove I worship no political figure. Even the very best leave plenty to be desired.
It is quite another galaxy, to endure repeated photos and associations with Hitler and Nazis HERE (that is what dems do with conservatives). To see it go unpunished, over and over, is not a sign of really, really wanting mature decorous political discussion.
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Oooo..you got me.../s
Speaking of a time warp...
Times have changed since RR's presidency...people now have the ability to voice their opinions with others via the internet..I wonder what RR would think of Trump?
Do you mean had Trump lost, or had Trump won?
He was that kind of a practical, common sense, results oriented guy....that could distinguish winning, from losing again.
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Oooo..you got me.../s
As debate points go you'll have to admit this was a 10. :laugh:
Speaking of a time warp... Times have changed since RR's presidency...people now have the ability to voice their opinions with others via the internet..I wonder what RR would think of Trump?
Sure, folks have easy access to expressing their opinions thanks to Al Gore's magnificent Internet. But I'm of the opinion this only makes a more compelling case for RR's 11th Commandment.
As to what RR would think of President Trump? I think President Reagan would consider Donald Trump to be the right man for the job at the right time.
I also think Reagan would see a lot of himself in Trump --- a champion and advocate for the American worker, unwavering support for our military, economic acumen evidenced by tax reform, lowered regulations and withdrawal from anti-American trade agreements. Ronald Reagan would also applaud President Trump being the first sitting President to visit the Western Wall and to stand shoulder-to-shoulder with pro-life marchers in real time and in front of the cameras.
On a personal level I think Ronald Reagan would stand just a little bit in awe of President Trump refusing to retreat from a hostile media (worse than what Reagan suffered through) or the hostile members of his own party.
In a nutshell ... I think Ronald Reagan would be proud to call Donald Trump "Mr. President".
And, yes, @mystery-ak I am serious.
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Oooo..you got me.../s
Speaking of a time warp...
Times have changed since RR's presidency...people now have the ability to voice their opinions with others via the internet..I wonder what RR would think of Trump?
Trump went to capital hill to a congressional hearing bashing Reagan's tax cuts and demanding that real estate tax shelters be reinstated in the tax code and that if people didn't invest in real estate as a tax shelter that they be forced to pay much higher rates, to the tune of around 50%.
So it doesn't take much imagination to know what Reagan thought of Trump.
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Trump went to capital hill to a congressional hearing bashing Reagan's tax cuts and demanding that real estate tax shelters be reinstated in the tax code and that if people didn't invest in real estate as a tax shelter that they be forced to pay much higher rates, to the tune of around 50%.
So it doesn't take much imagination to know what Reagan thought of Trump.
Stupid facts! Who needs 'em? *****rollingeyes*****
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And that in a nutshell @Right_in_Virginia is why this site is so invaluable to ALL of US, as devoid of any logic some may find my Posts and Yours, all are welcome to debate. Thank You Myst and Mods for making this possible.
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It is quite another galaxy, to endure repeated photos and associations with Hitler and Nazis HERE (that is what dems do with conservatives). To see it go unpunished, over and over, is not a sign of really, really wanting mature decorous political discussion.
A desire to see punishment and the threat of future punishment upon ideas and comments deemed critical of Trump and his supporters seems to be a major motivating factor.
A people that willfully ignore history, do not want to see it and think it does not apply to them or their party, are actually busy tilling fertile ground for history to repeat. I suppose showing photos of youth marching in Mao's Cultural Revolution alongside pics of Antifa or the anti-gun rallies being planned to make a comparison of where such mindsets and memes lead to fundamentally transform a society, must be equally offensive to you.
Or is it more of 'it's okay when WE DO IT'?
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A desire to see punishment and the threat of future punishment upon ideas and comments deemed critical of Trump and his supporters seems to be a major motivating factor.
A people that willfully ignore history, do not want to see it and think it does not apply to them or their party, are actually busy tilling fertile ground for history to repeat. I suppose showing photos of youth marching in Mao's Cultural Revolution alongside pics of Antifa or the anti-gun rallies being planned to make a comparison of where such mindsets and memes lead to fundamentally transform a society, must be equally offensive to you.
Or is it more of 'it's okay when WE DO IT'?
Dude, YOU repeatedly used pictures and words, to accuse Trump and his supporters, of being like Hitler and his supporters.
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Dude, YOU repeatedly used pictures and words, to accuse Trump and his supporters, of being like Hitler and his supporters.
And, from what I've seen, the mods take care of that very quickly. Maybe you know differently?
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Dude, YOU repeatedly used pictures and words, to accuse Trump and his supporters, of being like Hitler and his supporters.
It's not my fault you cannot discern the difference between being CALLED a NAZI (which was not done), and images that showcase historical facts of where similar memes and mindsets currently being expressed, leads a society. That an image that illustrates indifference to 99% of a society that salutes in blind loyalty to a party and person offends you so, just makes my point.
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And, from what I've seen, the mods take care of that very quickly. Maybe you know differently?
They have indeed deleted images and posts I have made and they have handed me warnings on threads and via PM, some of which I have heeded and other times not, depending on the thread and nature of the discussion. Even my description of a photo that makes a point has been edited to assuage delicate sensibilities.
To go and blame the owner and the Mods with not being 'fair' because they do not punish whom they want silenced and punished is just illustrative of the very things many of us Principled Conservatives have charged the AT crowd with.
As is my practice, I do not go and bitch to the mods. I fight my own battles.
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As debate points go you'll have to admit this was a 10. :laugh:
Sure, folks have easy access to expressing their opinions thanks to Al Gore's magnificent Internet. But I'm of the opinion this only makes a more compelling case for RR's 11th Commandment.
As to what RR would think of President Trump? I think President Reagan would consider Donald Trump to be the right man for the job at the right time.
I also think Reagan would see a lot of himself in Trump --- a champion and advocate for the American worker, unwavering support for our military, economic acumen evidenced by tax reform, lowered regulations and withdrawal from anti-American trade agreements. Ronald Reagan would also applaud President Trump being the first sitting President to visit the Western Wall and to stand shoulder-to-shoulder with pro-life marchers in real time and in front of the cameras.
On a personal level I think Ronald Reagan would stand just a little bit in awe of President Trump refusing to retreat from a hostile media (worse than what Reagan suffered through) or the hostile members of his own party.
In a nutshell ... I think Ronald Reagan would be proud to call Donald Trump "Mr. President".
And, yes, @mystery-ak I am serious.
Agree. Any politician that has famously said, as Ronald Reagan has, that he’ll take 70 or 80 percent on a legislative compromise, then come back and fight for the rest later, is a pragmatist. IMHO Reagan would be quite pleased with a President Trump.
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This is a cool thread. Mystery, Intrigue, skullduggery and name calling. What a country.
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This is a cool thread. Mystery, Intrigue, skullduggery and name calling. What a country.
We have a rich and terrific history of mystery, intrigue, skullduggery and name calling as a nation. I'm so glad we have a forum that reflects this American Spirit of passionate argument, duel and debate.
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And, from what I've seen, the mods take care of that very quickly. Maybe you know differently?
You see that as no problem. I see it as subjecting good people to repeated, unnecessary serious insults, with little consequence.
It is like shouting "baby killer," at a Vietnam vet for example. I happen to serve in Germany with two purposes: Occupying force following WWII, and stand against the Cold War enemy, USSR.
The type of thing which really triggers vets, is those who failed to serve, playing games about military service.
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I know and it breaks my heart that they feel they have been run off. I want TBR to remain neutral where politics can be discussed freely and ALL politicians are subject to scrutiny....TBR WILL not become a Pro-Trump site!
@mystery-ak
Wow...a one word post and a link to a political story has generated 6 1/2+ pages and counting of indignation and less than half a page of comments on the article itself......
I commend your determination to prevent TBR from becoming a pro-Trump site. I think most site owners have figured out in America today that shared emotion is what motivates people to congregate on a site. We are, generally speaking, herd animals longing to be with "like minded" individuals and opinions that are different than ones own are very hard for some people to tolerate.
Thanks for your steadfast resolve to maintain TBR as a forum open to all opinions, for despite all recent appearances to the contrary, conservatives are smarter than they look and have sounded in the last few years and I am hopeful with places like this they will again come to value intellectual debate over emotional nonsense.... :shrug:
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@mystery-ak
Wow...a one word post and a link to a political story has generated 6 1/2+ pages and counting of indignation and less than half a page of comments on the article itself......
I commend your determination to prevent TBR from becoming a pro-Trump site. I think most site owners have figured out in America today that shared emotion is what motivates people to congregate on a site. We are, generally speaking, herd animals longing to be with "like minded" individuals and opinions that are different than ones own are very hard for some people to tolerate.
Thanks for your steadfast resolve to maintain TBR as a forum open to all opinions, for despite all recent appearances to the contrary, conservatives are smarter than they look and have sounded in the last few years and I am hopeful with places like this they will again come to value intellectual debate over emotional nonsense.... :shrug:
Perhaps there are so few comments on the article itself because it is a great big nothing burger.
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I don't believe that your "Not your finest moment, sir" was an appropriate response to the disgusting, violent post of the one you are defending.
The word "disgusting" was mild compared to the comment made that caused the reaction.
Why are you excusing it? Because you now too are a blind supporter of Trump? Or another reason?
Why are you saying I excused it, as "Not your finest moment, sir" is not an excuse? "Blind," interesting choice of slur.
I thought my sarcasm was clear enough on this thread, but to clarify I don't really think America is now Great because 2 swamp creatures are patting each other on the back. I think the huge gulf between Romney (the GOP nominee in 2012) and Trump (the GOP nominee in 2016) should be embarrassing to the GOP. If the 2020 election was today I wouldn't vote for Trump.
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You see that as no problem. I see it as subjecting good people to repeated, unnecessary serious insults, with little consequence.
It is like shouting "baby killer," at a Vietnam vet for example. I happen to serve in Germany with two purposes: Occupying force following WWII, and stand against the Cold War enemy, USSR.
The type of thing which really triggers vets, is those who failed to serve, playing games about military service.
Speaking of unnecessary insults and subjecting people to things...you have no room to talk with certain comments you've made here recently.
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Perhaps there are so few comments on the article itself because it is a great big nothing burger.
No it's a big story...especially the way Mittens trashed Trump and how some folks had you asked them during the election would have sworn on a stack of bibles Trump would NEVER have anything to do with Romney in any election.
And yet here we are.
Kabuki Theater.
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You see that as no problem. I see it as subjecting good people to repeated, unnecessary serious insults, with little consequence.
It is like shouting "baby killer," at a Vietnam vet for example. I happen to serve in Germany with two purposes: Occupying force following WWII, and stand against the Cold War enemy, USSR.
The type of thing which really triggers vets, is those who failed to serve, playing games about military service.
Not gonna let you do that. Your original claim was that mods let people get away with nazi imagery. That is clearly not true.
I do appreciate that those images mean much more to some than others, and can be extremely offensive.
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Speaking of unnecessary insults and subjecting people to things...you have no room to talk with certain comments you've made here recently.
Why not give the examples you have in mind, then?
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Good grief, none of this brilliant repartee has anything to do with Mitt. Worse, it's not remotely interesting.
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Good grief, none of this brilliant repartee has anything to do with Mitt. Worse, it's not remotely interesting.
How about if one of us posts a "Mitt as Hitler" photo to liven things up? :dx1:
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How about if one of us posts a "Mitt as Hitler" photo to liven things up? :dx1:
Mitler?
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Here we go.........
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There are a surprising number of them out there!
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Equating Mitt or just about any US politician (including Trump or Obama) and Hitler demonstrates an appalling ignorance of history.
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Equating Mitt or just about any US politician (including Trump or Obama) and Hitler demonstrates an appalling ignorance of history.
Indeed! And there's a heck of a lot of that ignorance running around out there. *****rollingeyes*****
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As was the 11th Commandment.
So when is it you're going to stop speaking ill about this forum and the members here that don't agree with you? And when will you start admonishing your fellow ETers about speaking ill about this forum and the members here that don't agree with them? I mean, you are planning on following your own advice, aren't you?
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So when is it you're going to stop speaking ill about this forum and the members here that don't agree with you? And when will you start admonishing your fellow ETers about speaking ill about this forum and the members here that don't agree with them? I mean, you are planning on following your own advice, aren't you?
:2popcorn:
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So when is it you're going to stop speaking ill about this forum and the members here that don't agree with you? And when will you start admonishing your fellow ETers about speaking ill about this forum and the members here that don't agree with them? I mean, you are planning on following your own advice, aren't you?
Such a silly response to a serious discussion. **nononono*
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Such a silly response to a serious discussion. **nononono*
Yeah, that's what I thought. Damn hypocrite.
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Such a silly response to a serious discussion. **nononono*
Looks like you didn't actually read the comments if that's your response.
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Can't answer simple yes or no questions, a joke Christian has to spew hate at another. Has to call other names, talk vulgarly to them. What a phony.
I must have missed something. Could you post what was vulgar and name calling? Could be I just missed it otherwise it is character assassination. This is kind of ugly.
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I must have missed something. Could you post what was vulgar and name calling? Could be I just missed it otherwise it is character assassination. This is kind of ugly.
@Chosen Daughter any mention of Trump endorsing Romney is considered "vulgar and name calling" to some around here.
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No it's a big story...especially the way Mittens trashed Trump and how some folks had you asked them during the election would have sworn on a stack of bibles Trump would NEVER have anything to do with Romney in any election.
And yet here we are.
Kabuki Theater.
Can't stand Mitt Romney. And I don't like how Bain operates either.
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So when is it you're going to stop speaking ill about this forum and the members here that don't agree with you? And when will you start admonishing your fellow ETers about speaking ill about this forum and the members here that don't agree with them? I mean, you are planning on following your own advice, aren't you?
@RoosGirl
Not the forum just the damn yankees
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@Chosen Daughter any mention of Trump endorsing Romney is considered "vulgar and name calling" to some around here.
I know, been there but wanted to see if he could show specifics.
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@RoosGirl
Not the forum just the damn yankees
@driftdiver I find the yankees to be fine people... as long as they only come to Florida for short visits. ^-^
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So to me what doesn't add up with this endorsement is Trump supporting a man who made his living putting Americans out of work. Doesn't go along with the MAGA mantra. In fact it is everything Trump said he would work against. I worked at a company that was bought out by Bain Capital so I know from first hand experience how they operate.
https://boingboing.net/2012/08/13/bain-capital-buys-profitable-a.html
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Yeah, that's what I thought. Damn hypocrite.
@RoosGirl ... We've been posting to and around each other for quite some time now. And I've come to realize that you are uncomfortable entering the arena of ideas, preferring to stay on the playground, so to speak. In all candor this is just not my cup of tea -- so it only follows neither are your posts.
Here you entered a thread pointing your finger at me and admonishing me for perceived bad behavior. Your post did nothing to advance an earlier discussion on letting go of the past ... even missing that I volunteered to go first.
So, yes, in a grownup world inhabited by thinkers, your post was silly. This is my opinion and I do ask you to agree. All I ask is that you not waste time and energy posting to or about me. For this you have my sincere "thank you" in advance and a promise to return the same respect.
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@RoosGirl ... We've been posting to and around each other for quite some time now. And I've come to realize that you are uncomfortable entering the arena of ideas, preferring to stay on the playground, so to speak. In all candor this is just not my cup of tea -- so it only follows neither are your posts.
Here you entered a thread pointing your finger at me and admonishing me for perceived bad behavior. Your post did nothing to advance an earlier discussion on letting go of the past ... even missing that I volunteered to go first.
So, yes, in a grownup world inhabited by thinkers, your post was silly. This is my opinion and I do ask you to agree. All I ask is that you not waste time and energy posting to or about me. For this you have my sincere "thank you" in advance and a promise to return the same respect.
Actually, after 2 years of reading your posts I just think you're full of shit. I've tried having a "grown up" conversation with you, but it always involves your sniping. And now, after having seen your bullshit ideas for the last 2 years I give zero bleep about having a "grown up" conversation with you. And no, I won't stop calling out your bullshit. You don't like what I have to say then put me on ignore, or go back to people who maybe actually like you at TOS.
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We've been posting to and around each other for quite some time now. And I've come to realize that you are uncomfortable entering the arena of ideas, preferring to stay on the playground, so to speak. In all candor this is just not my cup of tea -- so it only follows neither are your posts.
Here you entered a thread pointing your finger at me and admonishing me for perceived bad behavior. Your post did nothing to advance an earlier discussion on letting go of the past ... even missing that I volunteered to go first.
So, yes, in a grownup world inhabited by thinkers, your post was silly. This is my opinion and I do ask you to agree. All I ask is that you not waste time and energy posting to or about me. For this you have my sincere "thank you" in advance and a promise to return the same respect.
The amount of condescension, and down-talking while you make all kinds of demands amidst your snark I have concluded is not just the kind of behavior one expects from a Leftist 'intellectual' know-it-all. But pretty much Republican Party hack loyalist know-it-alls as well.
But she did nail you adroitly on the hypocrisy of your own position for a silly child on the playground who is not interested in entering the arena of ideas.
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I find those who have to tell people what "thinkers" they are usually aren't. Actual thinkers are self evident.
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I find those who have tell people what "thinkers" they are usually aren't. Actual thinkers are self evident.
I'll add to that. I find incredible irony in those who claim to be thinkers, who in turn can't think for themselves, and only spout the DJT Mothership talking points.
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Make sure you hit that 'report button' there pal.
Because , you know - it's HATE to disagree with a Trump supporter who just accused you of wanting to watch ISIS behead people because we do not dance and shout and rejoice about how pro-Life Trump is after you took issue over the fact I said: "Trump has a history of endorsing, funding and campaigning for Liberal Carpet-Baggers".
This is all about the fact you cannot handle any criticism of your political messiah. It's blasphemy to you.
Okay fine. It's blasphemy that a son of thunder calls your president and his party a fraud.
Go report that to the mods now as 'hate' and 'name calling'.
It's obviously what you are good at doing.
I strongly endorse what Trump is doing to the Deep State (mostly behind the scenes at this time), but now, @INVAR, you are reminding me why I sat out the election.
Trump sometimes displays wickedly bad judgment. Romney is one of our worst RINOs, in my opinion. (Maybe Trump figured that it is strategically important to endorse Romney, but he could have found a better Mormon to back in the primaries. The conservative Mormons I have run across despise Romney.)
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So, yes, in a grownup world inhabited by thinkers, your post was silly. This is my opinion and I do ask you to agree. All I ask is that you not waste time and energy posting to or about me. For this you have my sincere "thank you" in advance and a promise to return the same respect.
Welcome to the club @RoosGirl, I've been quite lonely out here in the Netherlands of @Right_in_Virginia rejects.
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Welcome to the club @RoosGirl, I've been quite lonely out here in the Netherlands of @Right_in_Virginia rejects.
Wait, what? You didn't see me standing here in the lowlands? Roos and I have the best spots already claimed.
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Wait, what? You didn't see me standing here in the lowlands? Roos and I have the best spots already claimed.
Obviously you two discussed it and decided it would be in your best interest if you didn't let corbe know you were there, can't say that I blame yall.
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Wait, what? You didn't see me standing here in the lowlands? Roos and I have the best spots already claimed.
Ahem.................... I'll have you know that I....... I alone......... was the first.
Y'all are just works in progress.
I, however, have arrived. :dx1:
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Obviously you two discussed it and decided it would be in your best interest if you didn't let corbe know you were there, can't say that I blame yall.
Actually, you owe @Sanguine and me rent now.
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Welcome to the club @RoosGirl, I've been quite lonely out here in the Netherlands of @Right_in_Virginia rejects.
You guys at least get noticed enough to be rejects. Quite a badge.
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Ahem.................... I'll have you know that I....... I alone......... was the first.
Y'all are just works in progress.
I, however, have arrived. :dx1:
Sorry, ML. Now I see you.
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@RoosGirl ... We've been posting to and around each other for quite some time now. And I've come to realize that you are uncomfortable entering the arena of ideas, preferring to stay on the playground, so to speak. In all candor this is just not my cup of tea -- so it only follows neither are your posts.
Here you entered a thread pointing your finger at me and admonishing me for perceived bad behavior. Your post did nothing to advance an earlier discussion on letting go of the past ... even missing that I volunteered to go first.
So, yes, in a grownup world inhabited by thinkers, your post was silly. This is my opinion and I do ask you to agree. All I ask is that you not waste time and energy posting to or about me. For this you have my sincere "thank you" in advance and a promise to return the same respect.
(http://img.picturequotes.com/2/508/507045/those-of-you-who-think-you-know-everything-are-annoying-those-of-us-who-do-quote-1.jpg)
:silly: :silly: :silly: :silly:
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I am totally willing to forget the past and move on, so long as you all simply agree that all of my positions are the right ones.
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Sorry, ML. Now I see you.
It's about time! :tongue2:
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I strongly endorse what Trump is doing to the Deep State (mostly behind the scenes at this time), but now, @INVAR, you are reminding me why I sat out the election.
Trump sometimes displays wickedly bad judgment. Romney is one of our worst RINOs, in my opinion. (Maybe Trump figured that it is strategically important to endorse Romney, but he could have found a better Mormon to back in the primaries. The conservative Mormons I have run across despise Romney.)
@the_doc
Present and accounted for!
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Wasn't Romneycare the starting point for Obamacare?
It doesn't take a lot of mental horsepower to know Romneycare wouldn't work - and it didn't. So they took failure as the model and made it nation wide...
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Actually, after 2 years of reading your posts I just think you're full of shit. I've tried having a "grown up" conversation with you, but it always involves your sniping. And now, after having seen your bullshit ideas for the last 2 years I give zero bleep about having a "grown up" conversation with you. And no, I won't stop calling out your bullshit. You don't like what I have to say then put me on ignore, or go back to people who maybe actually like you at TOS.
:rolling:...hmmm.... looks like this just may be time to bring in the b.s. AMPLIFIER detector! :shrug: 8detect8
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I will say, the moderators should take into consideration when people like Invar claim to be pro-life but throw out the worst criticisms of people who would support the President, GOP nominee and feels the need to make personal attacks on others. It's total hypocrisy and such an outlook is a total joke and then, makes these outlandish statements and then makes more attacks because of an inability to debate.
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I will say, the moderators should take into consideration when people like Invar claim to be pro-life but throw out the worst criticisms of people who would support the President, GOP nominee and feels the need to make personal attacks on others. It's total hypocrisy and such an outlook is a total joke and then, makes these outlandish statements and then makes more attacks because of an inability to debate.
Coming from the tool who was quoted here at TBR that non-Trump supporters were the same as ISIS and alQaeda. No one takes you seriously Orange lackey. You have no moral authority here ....got it? Hypocricy? You got the market cornered bub.
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I will say, the moderators should take into consideration when people like Invar claim to be pro-life but throw out the worst criticisms of people who would support the President, GOP nominee and feels the need to make personal attacks on others. It's total hypocrisy and such an outlook is a total joke and then, makes these outlandish statements and then makes more attacks because of an inability to debate.
You mean like accusing people who do not support Trump with cheerleading Jihadist Beheadings?
Like that kind of outlandish statement?
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I will say, the moderators should take into consideration when people like Invar claim to be pro-life but throw out the worst criticisms of people who would support the President, GOP nominee and feels the need to make personal attacks on others. It's total hypocrisy and such an outlook is a total joke and then, makes these outlandish statements and then makes more attacks because of an inability to debate.
Your Orange God isn't pro life. Quit lying.
With the things you've said in the last couple days towards members and your previous threats of violence you're in no position to tell the Mods here what they should and shouldn't do.
Be lucky you're not locked out of this place right now. Any other Conservative forum on the internet would have IP banned you a long long time ago.
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I will say, the moderators should take into consideration when people like Invar claim to be pro-life but throw out the worst criticisms of people who would support the President, GOP nominee and feels the need to make personal attacks on others. It's total hypocrisy and such an outlook is a total joke and then, makes these outlandish statements and then makes more attacks because of an inability to debate.
@TomSea, if you have a specific complaint to make, please mash the "Report to Moderator" button. If you don't do that we assume that you don't have a problem with a comment.
Please do not make personal insults yourself.
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Be lucky you're not locked out of this place right now. Any other Conservative forum on the internet would have IP banned you a long long time ago.
I find it absolutely appalling that he has the nerve to put a CW soldier as an icon. The ultimate of irony. He's past disgusting.
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Ted Cruz endorsed Romney :tongue2:
Guess, that won't count. :rolling:
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I find it absolutely appalling that he has the nerve to put a CW soldier as an icon. The ultimate of irony. He's past disgusting.
Why is that more "disgusting" than your having a Confederate flag as yours?
Of all the things you can criticize about Tom, his icon isn't one of them. I'm glad the North won too, because I wouldn't want all of my good southern friends to be living in a different country. :patriot:
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Why is that more "disgusting" than your having a Confederate flag as yours?
Of all the things you can criticize about Tom, his icon isn't one of them. I'm glad the North won too, because I wouldn't want all of my good southern friends to be living in a different country. :patriot:
My point is that I thought soldiers on both sides were heros. OTOH this disgusting puke finds time to diginerate the valiant confederate soldier. (See his prior posting history) This ah is less than honorable in many ways.
And btw, I think a union soldier or a CBF is a great icon (see my tag line). Just not from this jerk.
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My point is that I thought soldiers on both sides were heros. OTOH this disgusting puke finds time to diginerate the valiant confederate soldier. (See his prior posting history) This ah is less than honorable in many ways.
And btw, I think a union soldier or a CBF is a great icon (see my tag line). Just not from this jerk.
Gotcha. I've seen his posting history, and agree.
Also agree that the soldiers on both sides were heroes.