General Category => Crime And Punishment => Topic started by: mountaineer on July 04, 2022, 03:58:21 pm
Title: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: mountaineer on July 04, 2022, 03:58:21 pm
Chicago area:
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Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot Witnesses said they heard multiple shots fired. A blanket was placed over one person on the ground. Others were visibly bloodied. Police told people: “Everybody disburse, please. It is not safe to be here.” By Lynn Sweet Jul 4, 2022, 11:29am EDT
The Highland Park Fourth of July parade was suddenly halted when shots were fired about 10 minutes after the parade kicked off at 10 a.m. Monday, striking an unknown number of parade-goers and sending hundreds of people running for safety.
Multiple people were shot. A reporter saw five people bloodied. A blanket was covering one person.
Several witnesses said they heard multiple shots fired. One witness said he counted more than 20 shots. ...
Chicago Sun-Times (https://chicago.suntimes.com/2022/7/4/23194354/highland-park-fourth-july-parade-gunfire)
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Post by: mountaineer on July 04, 2022, 04:00:07 pm
Lake & McHenry County Scanner @LMCScanner · 26m Mass Shooting (Highland Park) Emergency crews on scene of a shooting with numerous victims near Central Ave and Second St in downtown Highland Park. Reports of nine gunshot victims.
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Post by: mountaineer on July 04, 2022, 04:01:19 pm
Video https://twitter.com/Hugo_Aguilar6/status/1543984152080486406
(C)hicago (F)ree (M)edia @chifreemedia Alright y'all, lots of weird info flying around re: this shooting already. Highland Park is an extremely wealthy north shore Chicago suburb. No gun violence to speak of. It's a heavily Jewish area, but have yet to see any indication of motive here. Verify anything you share. 11:43 AM · Jul 4, 2022·
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Post by: mountaineer on July 04, 2022, 04:03:33 pm
Some people already trying to pin it on "white supremacists," since it's a largely Jewish neighborhood. Hmm, aren't there a few other ethnic or religious groups who hate the Joooos? :pondering:
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: mystery-ak on July 04, 2022, 05:00:49 pm
Where there any sightings of a group of men in the vicinity, all eerily similar wearing blues shirts and khaki pants?
You mean the Feds?
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: Gefn on July 04, 2022, 05:41:06 pm
Suspect At Large After ‘Active' Shooting at Illinois Fourth of July Parade
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Sixteen people were shot and at least five people were killed Monday morning in a shooting at Highland Park's Independence Day parade, officials confirmed, urging residents to continue to "shelter in place" as the gunman remains at large.
The shooting happened just after 10 a.m. in downtown Highland Park, according to reports. A large police presence from the state and neighboring suburban Chicago departments was seen along the parade route.
"Highland Park Police are responding to an active shooter incident that occurred in downtown Highland Park during the 4th of July parade," the city of Highland Park wrote in a statement. "This is an active incident. All individuals are advised to shelter in place. Law enforcement agencies are searching for the suspect; evidence of a firearm has been recovered. Numerous law enforcement officers are responding and have secured a perimeter around downtown Highland Park. 16 people have been transferred to the hospital; 5 individuals are confirmed deceased."
Where there any sightings of a group of men in the vicinity, all eerily similar wearing blues shirts and khaki pants?
Sad to say, nothing would surprise me.
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: mystery-ak on July 04, 2022, 05:43:23 pm
July 4, 2022 11:58am EDT Illinois 4th of July parade erupts into chaos after multiple shot: Report Police are reportedly patrolling the parade area with rifles By Anders Hagstrom , Tyler O'Neil | Fox News
Multiple people are feared dead after a reported shooting at a 4th of July parade in Highland Park, Illinois, on Monday.
Witnesses say crowds fled the sound of gunfire, and others saw at least five bloodied people lying on the ground and another under a blanket, according to the Chicago Sun Times.
The number of victims remains unclear. Police have reportedly requested a canine unit to assist in finding the suspect. The suspect remains at large.
Illinois Gov. JB Pritzker stated to WGN that he believes there are at least nine shooting victims. The outlet reported that at least two were killed.
The Lake County Sheriff's Office, where Highland Park is located, confirmed that a shooting had occurred and urged people to stay out of the area. The sheriff's office did not confirm the number of victims, however.
The Highland Park Police Department confirmed they are responding to an "active situation" and will soon release a statement to Fox News Digitial. The sheriff's office did not immediately respond to requests for comment from Fox.
Highland Park Mayor Nancy Rotering urged residents to avoid the downtown area as police respond to the incident.
"Highland Park Police are responding to an incident in downtown Highland Park," she announced on Twitter. "Fourth Fest has been canceled. Please avoid downtown Highland Park. More information will be shared as it becomes available."
Pritzker also confirmed that he and his staff are "closely monitoring" the situation.
more https://www.foxnews.com/us/chaos-erupts-multiple-people-are-shot-4th-july-parade
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: mystery-ak on July 04, 2022, 05:43:49 pm
At least 5 dead...per Fox
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Post by: Kamaji on July 04, 2022, 05:44:15 pm
Considering the amount of violent anti-U.S. rhetoric that was coming from the left as the result of the Dobbs ruling, this is almost certainly a leftist-inspired shooter.
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Post by: rebewranger on July 04, 2022, 05:47:03 pm
'Mass chaos': Police respond to shooting at Fourth of July parade in Chicago suburb of Highland Park John Bacon and Grace Hauck, USA TODAY - 13m ago
HIGHLAND PARK, Ill. – Gunfire and chaos shattered a Fourth of July parade in this affluent Chicago suburb Monday as onlookers fled in terror amid reports that multiple people had been shot.
Video from the scene appears to show dozens of people running for cover as music continues to play minutes after the event began at 10 a.m. local time.
"Police are responding to an incident in downtown Highland Park," the city said in a Facebook post. "Fourth Fest has been canceled."
The city asked residents to avoid the downtown area and said more information would be shared as it becomes available. Rep. Brad Schneider, D-Ill., was at the parade.
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Post by: Cyber Liberty on July 04, 2022, 05:49:04 pm
:bkmk:
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: mystery-ak on July 04, 2022, 05:49:42 pm
At least 5 dead, 16 wounded after gunman opens fire at 4th of July parade, manhunt underway
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: Mod2 on July 04, 2022, 05:50:40 pm
Merged multiple threads.
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: Gefn on July 04, 2022, 05:54:05 pm
Shooter on store roof kills five and injures 16 at July 4th parade in affluent Chicago suburb Highland Park: Bodies lie in street as gunman remains at large
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: mystery-ak on July 04, 2022, 05:56:59 pm
Male---white--18-20 years
wearing blue tee-shirt
recovered weapon
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: mystery-ak on July 04, 2022, 05:58:26 pm
Breaking911 @Breaking911 · 22m 5 dead, 16 hospitalized in mass shooting at Highland Park, Ill. Fourth of July parade, shooter being sought - Sun-Times
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Post by: mystery-ak on July 04, 2022, 06:00:22 pm
weapon = rifle :shrug:
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: mystery-ak on July 04, 2022, 06:10:00 pm
Breaking911 @Breaking911 · 10m MANHUNT FOR HIGHLAND PARK SHOOTER: - White male - Approx. 18-20-years-old - Long black hair - Small build - White or blue T-shirt
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Post by: mystery-ak on July 04, 2022, 06:13:02 pm
Breaking911 @Breaking911 · 8m Rifle recovered at the scene, police say
"It appears he was shooting from a roof." - Deputy Police Chief
BNO News @BNONews 4TH OF JULY ATTACK - Highland Park, Illinois - During 4th of July parade - Suspect opened fire on public - May have fired from rooftop - At least 30 victims, 6 dead - Suspect not yet in custody - Believed to be white, male, 18-20 - Motive unknown
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Post by: mystery-ak on July 04, 2022, 06:13:10 pm
Jack Posobiec 🇺🇸 @JackPosobiec · 1h First a Christmas parade in Waukesha
Now a 4th of July parade in Highland Park
America has to get serious about crime before more people die
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: mystery-ak on July 04, 2022, 06:16:40 pm
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: mystery-ak on July 04, 2022, 06:17:05 pm
6 dead 24 injured...per Fox
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Post by: Polly Ticks on July 04, 2022, 06:22:55 pm
Horrifying. Prayers up for the injured and for the families of the dead.
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: 240B on July 04, 2022, 06:37:58 pm
Far Left hate America nutjob. Likely will allow himself to be caught to get his 'message' or his 'cause' out. Otherwise, what's the point?
Nobody on the Right would do this. Even though I will bet money now that the press tries to blame it on Trump and his supporters.
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: Kamaji on July 04, 2022, 06:46:38 pm
Nobody on the Right would do this. Even though I will bet money now that the press tries to blame it on Trump and his supporters.
Considering we actually love our country and we love celebrating our independence, I do tend to think we on the right are very unlikely to shoot up an Independence Day parade.
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: roamer_1 on July 04, 2022, 07:02:41 pm
Not a one shooting back...
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: Hoodat on July 04, 2022, 07:03:50 pm
Immediately... drones should be flying high enough to 'see' from where the shots/threat originate.
While waiting for the fireworks show in Atlanta last night, I noticed maybe a dozen drones flying overhead. Hard to miss anything happening on the ground.
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: mystery-ak on July 04, 2022, 07:46:21 pm
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: mystery-ak on July 04, 2022, 07:48:43 pm
Mask Preston @preston6113 · 7m Replying to @SiIentRunning and @lookner Sounds like he emptied two 30 round magazines.
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Post by: mystery-ak on July 04, 2022, 07:49:10 pm
Cristopher B Williams @janglybones · 5m Replying to @SiIentRunning Yep two magazine clips. He paused in between changing the magazines. Nothing automatic about it but fast rapid shoots. Typical handgun holds 15 rounds too.
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Post by: mystery-ak on July 04, 2022, 07:49:43 pm
ModernCicero @CiceroModern · 3m Replying to @SiIentRunning That's an AR15 or AK with two 30-round magazines. Pause in between is him putting second magazine in.
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: mystery-ak on July 04, 2022, 08:25:31 pm
Who are the people on bicycles with high visibility yellow on?
Of all the people who could get out of there quickest, they are riding around in circles. Clueless? Not concerned because they know they aren't targets?
Or what?
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: 240B on July 04, 2022, 10:32:26 pm
That is random fire. The shooter is not aiming at anything, just like the Las Vegas shooting. Fire for effect. Suppressing fire. Covering fire. The intent is to cause panic more than a deliberate shoot.
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Post by: Hoodat on July 04, 2022, 10:45:26 pm
Highland Park, Illinois parade shooting: Police share identity of person of interest
Kelly Hayes | July 4, 2022 1:52PM | Updated 5:25PM
CHICAGO - A gunman on a rooftop opened fire on an Independence Day parade in suburban Chicago on Monday, killing at least six people, wounding at least 30 and sending hundreds of marchers, parents with strollers and children on bicycles fleeing in terror, police said. The suspect remained on the loose hours later as authorities scoured the area.
(https://images.foxtv.com/static.fox26houston.com/www.fox26houston.com/content/uploads/2022/07/932/524/C6097DFD-1CE4-4340-B5FC-1C3C9C71A7C1.jpeg?ve=1&tl=1) Police have identified Robert E Crimo, 22 as a person of interest.
Highland Park Police Chief Lou Jogmen said Monday afternoon that police have identified 22-year-old Robert E. Crimo III as a person of interest and cautioned he should be considered armed and dangerous. Police declined to answer questions about how they identified Crimo. Authorities described his car as a silver Honda Fit with an Illinois license plate DM 80653. . .
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Post by: mystery-ak on July 04, 2022, 10:54:12 pm
Talk about freaky looking...yikes
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Post by: mystery-ak on July 04, 2022, 10:57:15 pm
Gov. J.B. Pritzker Reacts to Highland Park Shooting: ‘Prayers Alone Will Not Put a Stop to the Terror of Rampant Gun Violence’
Illinois Governor J.B. Pritzker (D) issued a statement after the horrific shooting at a July 4th parade in Highland Park near Chicago.
more https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/07/04/gov-j-b-pritzker-reacts-highland-park-shooting-prayers-alone-will-not-stop-terror-rampant-gun-violence/
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Post by: 240B on July 04, 2022, 10:58:20 pm
Weird. The tattoos are different in the two photos.
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Post by: sneakypete on July 04, 2022, 11:01:19 pm
ModernCicero @CiceroModern · 3m Replying to @SiIentRunning That's an AR15 or AK with two 30-round magazines. Pause in between is him putting second magazine in.
I can tell you for an absolutely certainty that there is a world of difference in the sound an AK makes firing at you,and the sound a M-16/AR-15 makes. There is no possible way to mistake and confuse them.
Given that this was a 4th of July parade,there HAD to be combat vets there that would have been able to recognize the weapon by the sound.
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Post by: mystery-ak on July 04, 2022, 11:08:47 pm
Breaking911 @Breaking911 · 1h BREAKING: Person of interest in Highland Park, Ill. parade shooting identified as 22-year-old Robert “Bobby” E. Crimo; may be driving a 2010 silver Honda Fit—Plate # DM80653
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Post by: Idiot on July 04, 2022, 11:09:07 pm
Who are the people on bicycles with high visibility yellow on?
Of all the people who could get out of there quickest, they are riding around in circles. Clueless? Not concerned because they know they aren't targets?
Highland Park, Illinois parade shooting: Police share identity of person of interest
Kelly Hayes | July 4, 2022 1:52PM | Updated 5:25PM
CHICAGO - A gunman on a rooftop opened fire on an Independence Day parade in suburban Chicago on Monday, killing at least six people, wounding at least 30 and sending hundreds of marchers, parents with strollers and children on bicycles fleeing in terror, police said. The suspect remained on the loose hours later as authorities scoured the area.
(https://images.foxtv.com/static.fox26houston.com/www.fox26houston.com/content/uploads/2022/07/932/524/C6097DFD-1CE4-4340-B5FC-1C3C9C71A7C1.jpeg?ve=1&tl=1) Police have identified Robert E Crimo, 22 as a person of interest.
Highland Park Police Chief Lou Jogmen said Monday afternoon that police have identified 22-year-old Robert E. Crimo III as a person of interest and cautioned he should be considered armed and dangerous. Police declined to answer questions about how they identified Crimo. Authorities described his car as a silver Honda Fit with an Illinois license plate DM 80653. . .
Police declined to answer questions about how they identified Crimo.
ROFLMAO! That is hilarious,in a sick sort of way. The question that SHOULD be asked is "How many LEO's can Crimo recognize?"
Anybody think there is any chance at all that he is going to be captured alive?
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Post by: Hoodat on July 04, 2022, 11:14:14 pm
Looks like Crimo's father ran for (and lost) the Highland Park mayoral election in 2019: Highland Park Election Results: Mayor, City Council Retain Seats
HIGHLAND PARK, IL — Voters in Highland Park elected five new school board members in Tuesday's consolidated municipal elections and decided to retain its incumbent mayor and all three members of the City Council that sought re=election. There were no competitive races for the Highwood City Council.
Mayor Nancy Rotering won a third term as mayor, defeating her challenger, small business owner Bob Crimo, by more than a 2-to-1 margin. Rotering, who last year came in fourth in her bid for the Democratic Party primary for the Illinois attorney general nomination, had raised $7,500 since the first of the year and has more than $15,000 on hand, while Crimo did not report any contributions or expenditures, according to the Illinois State Board of Elections. . .
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Post by: mystery-ak on July 04, 2022, 11:28:38 pm
Carmine Sabia @CarmineSabia · 45m Deleted previous tweets on Highland Park massacre suspect Robert “Bobby” E. Crimo AKA Awake. It is not proper for me to speculate. I have downloaded his entire catalog and there is some disturbing stuff. This was planned. His data is currently being scrubbed.
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Post by: Smokin Joe on July 04, 2022, 11:31:28 pm
One of those photos is reversed.
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Post by: mystery-ak on July 04, 2022, 11:31:49 pm
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Post by: Kamaji on July 04, 2022, 11:53:57 pm
Sounds like a leftist/prog. Which means this will all be "disappeared" by the MSM in a week or so. How long did the Christmas parade massacre stay in the news?
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Post by: Gefn on July 05, 2022, 12:01:00 am
Highland Park Parade Mass Shooting Suspect Arrested After Brief Police Pursuit
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The 22-year-old person of interest connected to the Independence Day parade mass shooting in Illinois that left at least six people dead and approximately two dozen others "seriously injured" Monday morning has been arrested, police said.
Police said 22-year-old Robert "Bobby" E Crimo III was taken into custody following a police pursuit that ended in north suburban Lake Forest.
Authorities said Crimo's vehicle was located in North Chicago and officers attempted to stop him before he fled the scene, leading police on a brief pursuit before coming to a stop.
He was taken into custody "without incident," police said. He was being taken to the Highland Park Police Department for questioning, but no charges had been filed as of 6:50 p.m.
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Post by: mystery-ak on July 05, 2022, 12:20:17 am
Tre Ward ABC 7 @TreWardTV · 17m Replying to @TreWardTV MORE: He was arrested near U.S. Highway 41 & Wesley Road in Lake Forest around the time when those police units sped off from where we are staged at in Highland Park. It was originally spotted at Buckley Road & 41 in North Chicago and a brief pursuit ensued. @ABC7Chicago
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Post by: Gefn on July 05, 2022, 12:27:31 am
[b][/b]Highland Park 4th of July shooting person of interest: Who is Robert Crimo?
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Robert E. Crimo III is also known as 'Awake the Rapper' and he published a cryptic video in October
WARNING: GRAPHIC IMAGES: Authorities have identified a potential person of interest in the Highland Park, Illinois, 4th of July parade shooting as 22-year-old Robert "Bobby" E. Crimo III.
An FBI wanted poster describes Robert E. Crimo III as a thin White male with brown eyes and neck-length brown hair, weighing 120 pounds. The poster also describes his tattoos: "four tally marks with a line through them on his right cheek, red roses and green leaves on his neck, and cursive script above his left eyebrow."
The poster describes him as "armed and dangerous."
Some of the comments are quite stupid. Most likely he didn’t get shot by the cops because he didn’t resist - unlike every black who does get shot.
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Post by: mountaineer on July 05, 2022, 12:15:01 pm
How you know this dweeb was not a conservative. If so, he would have been in custody already.
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Highland Park shooting suspect was ‘known to law enforcement’ by: Ben Bradley Posted: Jul 4, 2022 / 09:26 PM CDT Updated: Jul 5, 2022 / 06:49 AM CDT WGN (https://wgntv.com/news/highland-park-parade-shooting/highland-park-shooting-suspect-was-known-to-law-enforcement/)
HIGHLAND PARK, Ill. — Robert “Bobby” Crimo III, the suspect in the Highland Park parade shooting Monday was taken into custody Monday evening.
WGN Investigates looked into Crimo’s background.
Crimo was a prolific poster online where he apparently went by the name “Awake the Rapper.” His videos foretell his alleged violent acts. In one, he appears to dramatize a school shooting. In another video, Crimo appears to animate his own demise in a confrontation with police. ...
Police said the 22-year-old suspect was “known to law enforcement.” One question that will be asked in the days to come: Were they aware of the violent videos that have been online for many months?
Social media, now mostly scrubbed, clearly shows his Antifa/anarchist sympathies.
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Post by: Kamaji on July 05, 2022, 12:23:57 pm
How you know this dweeb was not a conservative. If so, he would have been in custody already. Social media, now mostly scrubbed, clearly shows his Antifa/anarchist sympathies.
It's a shame more of his social media wasn't captured before it was scrubbed.
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Post by: mountaineer on July 05, 2022, 12:29:40 pm
Crab Man @crabcrawler1 SIDE THREAD Downloaded the shooter's YouTube channel before Google scrubs it (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FW2yYNxXoAIKB_P?format=jpg&name=small) 6:31 PM · Jul 4, 2022
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Post by: Kamaji on July 05, 2022, 12:35:01 pm
Some of the comments are quite stupid. Most likely he didn’t get shot by the cops because he didn’t resist - unlike every black who does get shot.
There are people trying to explain the difference between the Akron case and this case to some but to no avail
Logic never beats emotion
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Post by: txradioguy on July 05, 2022, 12:51:25 pm
Anti gun Twitter is trying to use this shooting to call for more gun control but they are having trouble finding the right message because this happened in Illinois and because Highland Park has had an "assault weapons" ban in place since 2015.
Plus Illinois has this little thing called an FOID card.
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Post by: mystery-ak on July 05, 2022, 12:57:18 pm
Highland Park Mayor: Shooter’s weapon was ‘legally obtained’
Highland Park Mayor Nancy Rotering told NBC’s “Today Show” that the Fourth of July parade shooting is an “absolutely devastating blow” to her community – and now the U.S. needs to re-examine gun laws in its aftermath.
“This tragedy never should have arrived on our doorsteps and as a small town, everybody knows somebody that was affected by this directly,” she said.
Rotering said she was suspect Robert Crimo III’s cub scout leader as a child, describing him as “just a little boy.”
On Tuesday, Rotering said she is now waiting for prosecutors to file charges against him for the shooting, which left 6 dead and more than 30 injured. She said she didn’t know where the gun came from that was used in the attack, but noted that it was legally obtained.
“I think at some point the nation needs to have a conversation about these weekly events involving the murder of dozens of people with legally-obtained guns,” Rotering told the “Today Show.””If that is what our laws stand for, then I think we need to re-examine the laws.”
Posted by Greg Norman Fox News
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Post by: mystery-ak on July 05, 2022, 12:58:48 pm
Highland Park, Illinois mass shooting victims ages ranged from 8 to 85 years old
Some 26 people were transferred to the Northshore Highland Park Hospital to be treated for injuries incurred during Monday morning's mass shooting at a Fourth of July parade. Physicians said 25 of them had gunshot wounds and their ages ranged from 8 to 85 years old. Posted by Bradford Betz
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Post by: Hoodat on July 05, 2022, 12:58:57 pm
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Post by: Right_in_Virginia on July 05, 2022, 01:01:37 pm
Marina Medvin 🇺🇸 @MarinaMedvin
He was mocking Trump supporters, targeted conservative families at a parade.
“I think at some point the nation needs to have a conversation about these weekly events involving the murder of dozens of people with legally-obtained guns,” Rotering told the “Today Show.””If that is what our laws stand for, then I think we need to re-examine the laws.”
Never let a good crisis go to waste.
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Post by: txradioguy on July 05, 2022, 01:06:47 pm
How does she know it was legally obtained if she doesn't know where it came from?
Never let a good crisis go to waste.
Unless they can produce the kids Illinois FOID card then it wasn't legally obtained.
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Post by: Kamaji on July 05, 2022, 01:07:10 pm
(https://i.imgflip.com/6lsvwn.jpg)
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Post by: Hoodat on July 05, 2022, 01:12:25 pm
'patch.com' is where I found the story on a 'Bobby Crimo' running for mayor. Any word on his dad yet?
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Post by: Hoodat on July 05, 2022, 01:17:16 pm
Bobby Crimo's business - https://www.facebook.com/Bobs.Deli.Sandwich/
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Post by: mystery-ak on July 05, 2022, 01:25:33 pm
Uncle of Bobby Crimo said nephew showed no signs of violence: report By David Propper July 4, 2022 11:33pm
The uncle of Robert “Bobby” Crimo III — the person of interest in Highland Park’s 4th of July parade mass shooting — said there were no signals that his 22-year-old nephew would carry out such carnage.
“There were no signs that I saw that would make him do this,” Paul Crimo told CNN in a Monday night interview after his nephew was taken into custody in connection to the shooting.
Robert Crimo was described as a recluse by his uncle and others who knew him, including neighbors and former classmates.
Police said at a press conference announcing the arrest it is believed Robert Crimo was responsible for the hail of bullets that rang out during the annual 4th of July parade.
But Paul Crimo said he’s never seen his nephew act violent or exhibit concerning behavior, according to CNN.
“I have nothing bad to say about him,” he told the outlet.
But he noted, “He’s a quiet kid. He’s usually on his own. He’s a lonely, quiet person. He keeps everything to himself.
more https://nypost.com/2022/07/04/bobby-crimos-uncle-said-nephew-showed-no-signs-of-violence-report/
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Post by: Hoodat on July 05, 2022, 01:26:04 pm
Confirmed. Amateur Rapper, Bobby Crimo III Wrote 'I Know What I Have To Do'
Jeff Arnold | Posted Tue, Jul 5, 2022 at 12:03 am CT | Updated Tue, Jul 5, 2022 at 8:18 am CT
(https://patch.com/img/cdn20/users/23958596/20220704/103947/styles/patch_image/public/nbk-2020___04223712054.jpg?width=1200) Robert "Bobby" Crimo III appeared at rallies in 2020 in Highland Park and Northbrook supporting former President Donald Trump and rapped under the name "Awake the Rapper." (Photo courtesy of Aaron Brooks Photography)
HIGHLAND PARK, IL — The 22-year-old man who was arrested Monday evening after being identified by police as the person of interest linked to the deadly July 4 parade mass shooting that killed six people and injured 24 others in Highland Park has a history of posting disturbing images on social media, including some depicting gun violence.
But his relatives describe Robert "Bobby" Crimo III as a quiet kid who kept to himself and who was attempting to make a living as an online rapper. . . .
. . . Crimo’s father — owner of a since-closed local deli and convenience store — unsuccessfully ran for mayor of Highland Park in 2019.
Media reports indicated that Crimo lived with his father and uncle in Highland Park. In an interview with Fox 32, Crimo’s uncle, Paul, said he is heartbroken and expressed his condolences to the families of those killed and injured in Monday’s mass shooting.
“I wanted to say I’m deeply, deeply sorry,” Crimo’s uncle said in the televised interview. “From the bottom of my heart, I’m heartbroken and my heart is just shattered. I can’t even believe it.” . . .
Uncle of Bobby Crimo said nephew showed no signs of violence: report By David Propper July 4, 2022 11:33pm
The uncle of Robert “Bobby” Crimo III — the person of interest in Highland Park’s 4th of July parade mass shooting — said there were no signals that his 22-year-old nephew would carry out such carnage.
“There were no signs that I saw that would make him do this,” Paul Crimo told CNN in a Monday night interview after his nephew was taken into custody in connection to the shooting.
Robert Crimo was described as a recluse by his uncle and others who knew him, including neighbors and former classmates.
Police said at a press conference announcing the arrest it is believed Robert Crimo was responsible for the hail of bullets that rang out during the annual 4th of July parade.
But Paul Crimo said he’s never seen his nephew act violent or exhibit concerning behavior, according to CNN.
“I have nothing bad to say about him,” he told the outlet.
But he noted, “He’s a quiet kid. He’s usually on his own. He’s a lonely, quiet person. He keeps everything to himself.
more https://nypost.com/2022/07/04/bobby-crimos-uncle-said-nephew-showed-no-signs-of-violence-report/
Then the uncle wasn't paying much attention.
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Post by: Cyber Liberty on July 05, 2022, 01:31:19 pm
Uncle of Bobby Crimo said nephew showed no signs of violence: report By David Propper July 4, 2022 11:33pm
The uncle of Robert “Bobby” Crimo III — the person of interest in Highland Park’s 4th of July parade mass shooting — said there were no signals that his 22-year-old nephew would carry out such carnage.
“There were no signs that I saw that would make him do this,” Paul Crimo told CNN in a Monday night interview after his nephew was taken into custody in connection to the shooting.
Robert Crimo was described as a recluse by his uncle and others who knew him, including neighbors and former classmates.
Police said at a press conference announcing the arrest it is believed Robert Crimo was responsible for the hail of bullets that rang out during the annual 4th of July parade.
But Paul Crimo said he’s never seen his nephew act violent or exhibit concerning behavior, according to CNN.
“I have nothing bad to say about him,” he told the outlet.
But he noted, “He’s a quiet kid. He’s usually on his own. He’s a lonely, quiet person. He keeps everything to himself.
more https://nypost.com/2022/07/04/bobby-crimos-uncle-said-nephew-showed-no-signs-of-violence-report/
The kid lived by himself in the dad's basement. Made rap videos of violence. Was all tattooed up. Bet he played bloody video games all day long. And here the uncle saw nothing wrong with the kid. The kid was screaming that he needed help.
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: Kamaji on July 05, 2022, 02:08:28 pm
The kid lived by himself in the dad's basement. Made rap videos of violence. Was all tattooed up. Bet he played bloody video games all day long. And here the uncle saw nothing wrong with the kid. The kid was screaming that he needed help.
:thumbsup:
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: Wingnut on July 05, 2022, 02:30:17 pm
The kid lived by himself in the dad's basement. Made rap videos of violence. Was all tattooed up. Bet he played bloody video games all day long. And here the uncle saw nothing wrong with the kid. The kid was screaming that he needed help.
Lot more like this stupid pencil necked geek white kid out there. Time for some parents to step up and parent for a change.
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: GtHawk on July 05, 2022, 03:26:29 pm
Robert Crimo was described as a recluse by his uncle and others who knew him, including neighbors and former classmates.
So this recluse/loner thing isn't new it's a long term issue and note there are no comments attributed to friends, just 'former classmates'. Yeah I'm gonna go with neither his uncle or father were paying a damn bit of real attention to this kid for a long long time. Also from the uncle “I associate with him, but I don’t really like to engage with him. I say hi and then when I leave I say bye. That’s it,” he told CNN.
So we have a loner, unemployed, no friends and disconnected family, what could go wrong? And did you see the photo in the article? Creepy smile and a copy of a paper with a headline about Oswald being slain in his jail shift. Naw, there were no signs, none at all.
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: Kamaji on July 05, 2022, 03:29:51 pm
Robert Crimo was described as a recluse by his uncle and others who knew him, including neighbors and former classmates.
So this recluse/loner thing isn't new it's a long term issue and note there are no comments attributed to friends, just 'former classmates'. Yeah I'm gonna go with neither his uncle or father were paying a damn bit of real attention to this kid for a long long time. Also from the uncle “I associate with him, but I don’t really like to engage with him. I say hi and then when I leave I say bye. That’s it,” he told CNN.
So we have a loner, unemployed, no friends and disconnected family, what could go wrong? And did you see the photo in the article? Creepy smile and a copy of a paper with a headline about Oswald being slain in his jail shift. Naw, there were no signs, none at all.
Exactly.
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: Hoodat on July 05, 2022, 03:32:03 pm
So we have a loner, unemployed, no friends and disconnected family, what could go wrong?
Still haven't heard a word from mom and dad. I imagine the father has been in a funk since his business folded, probably due to government-imposed Covid restrictions.
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: mystery-ak on July 05, 2022, 04:12:43 pm
Highland Park’s Mayor Blames ‘Gun Culture’ After City’s ‘Assault Weapons’ Ban Fails to Stop Mass Shooting
AWR Hawkins5 Jul 20224 2:14
Highland Park’s Democrat Mayor Nancy Rotering blamed “gun culture” after her city’s “assault weapons” ban failed to stop the July 4th parade attack.
Rotering appeared on NBC’s Today Show on July 5, 2022, and host Hoda Kolb noted, “In 2013, you signed an ‘assault weapons’ ban that was in place and is in place.”
Kolb and Rotering then discussed the gun used in the July 4 parade shooting, with Rotering saying “it was legally obtained.”
Rotering called for a new look at laws surrounding “legally obtained guns.”
She later added:
Yesterday we came together as a community to celebrate independence and freedom after two years of not having a parade. We were ready to come together as a community to celebrate our nation and, in fact, as a result, because of this gun culture, our nation turned its back on us and turned its back on our celebration. more https://www.breitbart.com/2nd-amendment/2022/07/05/highland-parks-democrat-mayor-blames-gun-culture-after-citys-assault-weapons-ban-fails-stop-mass-shooting/
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Post by: Kamaji on July 05, 2022, 04:13:58 pm
Highland Park’s Mayor Blames ‘Gun Culture’ After City’s ‘Assault Weapons’ Ban Fails to Stop Mass Shooting
AWR Hawkins5 Jul 20224 2:14
Highland Park’s Democrat Mayor Nancy Rotering blamed “gun culture” after her city’s “assault weapons” ban failed to stop the July 4th parade attack.
Rotering appeared on NBC’s Today Show on July 5, 2022, and host Hoda Kolb noted, “In 2013, you signed an ‘assault weapons’ ban that was in place and is in place.”
Kolb and Rotering then discussed the gun used in the July 4 parade shooting, with Rotering saying “it was legally obtained.”
Rotering called for a new look at laws surrounding “legally obtained guns.”
She later added:
Yesterday we came together as a community to celebrate independence and freedom after two years of not having a parade. We were ready to come together as a community to celebrate our nation and, in fact, as a result, because of this gun culture, our nation turned its back on us and turned its back on our celebration. more https://www.breitbart.com/2nd-amendment/2022/07/05/highland-parks-democrat-mayor-blames-gun-culture-after-citys-assault-weapons-ban-fails-stop-mass-shooting/
:facepalm2:
No dearie. It is cultural, but it has more to do with a culture that abandons at-risk male youth to the depredations of liberal culture.
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: txradioguy on July 05, 2022, 04:29:18 pm
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Rotering called for a new look at laws surrounding “legally obtained guns.”
If the kid doesn't have an FOID card issued by the state of Illinois then he didn't have a "legally obtained" gun.
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: mountaineer on July 05, 2022, 04:39:24 pm
Any mention of employment? Funny how all these ne'er-do-well stoners manage to find the $$ for so many guns and so much ammo - all without the family having a clue.
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: mystery-ak on July 05, 2022, 04:57:29 pm
Yesterday we came together as a community to celebrate independence and freedom after two years of not having a parade.
So why didn't you have a parade for the past two years? Who was the idiot bureaucrat who blocked that from happening?
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: mystery-ak on July 05, 2022, 05:38:39 pm
Highland Park shooting suspect 'pre-planned' attack, wore women's clothing to hide identity: police
Authorities investigating the deadly Fourth of July parade shooting in Highland Park, Illinois said Tuesday they believe suspected gunman Robert Crimo III “pre-planned this attack for several weeks.”
Lake County Major Crime Task Force spokesman Christopher Covelli said it appears Crimo III legally purchased a “high-powered rifle” and brought it to the parade before accessing the roof of a business through a fire escape ladder.
He then fired more than 70 rounds into the crowds below, killing 6 and wounding dozens more, Covelli said.
“During the attack, Crimo was dressed in women’s clothing and investigators do believe he did this to conceal his facial tattoos and his identity and help him during the escape with the other people who were fleeing the chaos," he added.
Officials say Crimo III then dropped the weapon and fled the scene with the rest of the panicked public, blending right in almost as if he was an innocent spectator.
The 21-year-old then went to his mother’s house and borrowed her vehicle before later being found and taken into custody, according to Covelli.
Inside that vehicle police found another rifle that appears to have been bought by Crimo III – and investigators elsewhere recovered several more firearms at a home he was living in, in Highwood, which police believe he also purchased legally, Covelli added.
No charges have been filed yet and a motive remains unknown. Posted by Greg Norman
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: mountaineer on July 05, 2022, 05:38:44 pm
On the news I saw FBI agents carefully searching for clues along the parade route. Their khaki pants and navy shirts looked very familiar, somehow ... Just can't put my finger on it.
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: mystery-ak on July 05, 2022, 05:40:17 pm
Highland Park shooting: Dick Durbin calls on voters to elect pro-gun control politicians after parade attack Sen. Durbin says he's fed up after July 4 shooting near Chicago By Lisa Bennatan , Jon Michael Raasch | Fox News
HIGHLAND PARK, Ill. – Illinois Sen. Dick Durbin called on Americans to vote for politicians who support gun control following the mass shooting at an Independence Day parade near Chicago.
"How long are we going to accept this in America?" Durbin asked during an interview with Fox News.
A gunman shot into the July 4 parade, killing six and injuring more than 30. Robert "Bobby" E. Crimo III was arrested as a person of interest in the shooting.
Durbin called Highland Park the safest place in Illinois before the attack.
more https://www.foxnews.com/us/highland-park-shooting-dick-durbin-voters-must-elect-pro-gun-control-politicians-parade-attack
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: Hoodat on July 05, 2022, 06:01:08 pm
HIGHLAND PARK, Ill. – Illinois Sen. Dick Durbin called on Americans to vote for politicians who support gun control following the mass shooting at an Independence Day parade near Chicago.
"How long are we going to accept this in America?" Durbin asked during an interview with Fox News.
Ever consider scrapping 'gun control' and replacing it with 'left-wing wacko control'?
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: goatprairie on July 05, 2022, 06:07:37 pm
Highland Park shooting: Dick Durbin calls on voters to elect pro-gun control politicians after parade attack Sen. Durbin says he's fed up after July 4 shooting near Chicago By Lisa Bennatan , Jon Michael Raasch | Fox News
HIGHLAND PARK, Ill. – Illinois Sen. Dick Durbin called on Americans to vote for politicians who support gun control following the mass shooting at an Independence Day parade near Chicago.
"How long are we going to accept this in America?" Durbin asked during an interview with Fox News.
A gunman shot into the July 4 parade, killing six and injuring more than 30. Robert "Bobby" E. Crimo III was arrested as a person of interest in the shooting.
Durbin called Highland Park the safest place in Illinois before the attack.
more https://www.foxnews.com/us/highland-park-shooting-dick-durbin-voters-must-elect-pro-gun-control-politicians-parade-attack
Any person not yet barred from purchasing a firearm can buy a deer rifle with a scope, get on top of some building, find a crowd doing whatever, and kill a lot of people. They'd have to try to confiscate every firearm in the country which isn't going to happen. They're going to have to do more to stop these creeps before they can start killing. I get the feeling that if he didn't have a rifle, a car would have sufficed considering the evil sentiments he expressed on social media.
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: Hoodat on July 05, 2022, 06:14:59 pm
Any mention of employment? Funny how all these ne'er-do-well stoners manage to find the $$ for so many guns and so much ammo - all without the family having a clue.
Stimulus checks.
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: LMAO on July 05, 2022, 06:33:20 pm
Highland Park shooting suspect 'pre-planned' attack, wore women's clothing to hide identity:
Lol
There’s a job waiting for him in the Biden administration
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: 240B on July 05, 2022, 06:42:13 pm
The case in Texas is really out there in the Twilight Zone with so many unanswered questions. The shooters weapons and ammo cashe was extremely high-end estimated value of around $10,000. That's a lot of money for an unemployed disturbed high-school dropout. Where did he get the money? Nobody knows?
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: sneakypete on July 05, 2022, 06:51:27 pm
“I think at some point the nation needs to have a conversation about these weekly events involving the murder of dozens of people with legally-obtained guns,” Rotering told the “Today Show.””If that is what our laws stand for, then I think we need to re-examine the laws.”
How ya gonna keep these psychos from building things like nail bombs,nailing school doors shut,and setting the bombs off in classrooms,Ms Rotering?
Or firebombing apartment buildings,day cares,etc,etc,etc?
WAIT! I KNOW! You are going to pass another law to make those things illegal,huh?
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: mystery-ak on July 05, 2022, 06:56:06 pm
July 5, 2022 2:26pm EDT Highland Park July 4th shooting suspect's parents were 'a problem,' says former coach Robert 'Bobby' Crimo III allegedly used a high-powered rifle to open fire on parade goers July 4, killing six people and injuring dozens more
By Rebecca Rosenberg | Fox News
The parents of accused Highland Park, Illinois, shooter Robert ‘Bobby’ Crimo III were "a problem" and always the last to pick him up from his afterschool sports program, the suspect's former coach told Fox News Digital.
"I remember the parents more than him because they were kind of a problem," recalled Jeremy Cahnmann, who ran an afterschool sports program at Lincoln Elementary School. "There wasn't a lot of love in that family."
The accused shooter, 21, is in police custody after allegedly gunning down revelers at the Highland Park July 4 parade, killing at least six people and injuring more than 36.
Crimo was 9 or 10 when he was enrolled in Cahnmann's Nerf football program, along with his younger brother. "Every week, the Crimos were the last kids there, and we'd have to call their parents to pick them up," the former coach said, speaking of Crimo's dad, Bob Crimo, 58, and his mom, Denise Pesina, 48.
"The kid was really quiet, really soft-spoken, never made an issue," added Cahnmann, who now runs the Chicago-based company Brain Bash Trivia.
more https://www.foxnews.com/us/highland-park-shooting-suspects-parents-problem-says-former-coach
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: sneakypete on July 05, 2022, 06:59:22 pm
The case in Texas is really out there in the Twilight Zone with so many unanswered questions. The shooters weapons and ammo cashe was extremely high-end estimated value of around $10,000. That's a lot of money for an unemployed disturbed high-school dropout. Where did he get the money? Nobody knows?
I've been asking that question since the beginning and gotten nowhere.
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: sneakypete on July 05, 2022, 07:03:37 pm
Confirmed. Amateur Rapper, Bobby Crimo III Wrote 'I Know What I Have To Do'
(https://patch.com/img/cdn20/users/23958596/20220704/103947/styles/patch_image/public/nbk-2020___04223712054.jpg?width=1200) Robert "Bobby" Crimo III appeared at rallies in 2020 in Highland Park and Northbrook supporting former President Donald Trump and rapped under the name "Awake the Rapper." (Photo courtesy of Aaron Brooks Photography)
Not really. It could have been legally obtained by his father,brother,or just a friend,and then given to him.
The fact that nobody seems to want to talk about where he got it from indicates to me he may have gotten it from a prominent local leftist.
If his father or a friend gave it to him...he's still in possession of it illegally. I learned from my MP ex son-in-law about the complexities of Illinois firearms laws.
He's stationed at Scott AFB. He can't even go into the PX and buy a rifle or ammo without a FOID card.
And what's odd is that I could.
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: txradioguy on July 05, 2022, 07:53:49 pm
Notice the narrative about this shooting has shifted slightly?
No one is saying he used an AR or high capacity magazines. Just a "high powered rifle".
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: Kamaji on July 05, 2022, 07:54:12 pm
Notice the narrative about this shooting has shifted slightly?
No one is saying he used an AR or high capacity magazines. Just a "high powered rifle".
Yup.
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: berdie on July 05, 2022, 08:00:25 pm
In a picture upthread, the palm of his hand is tattooed. I'm not around many "inked" people, but that is something I've never seen.
I do think he has issues...nobody in their right mind wants to be police chase in a Fit, aside from all his other actions. He had the foresight to pack women's clothes but not get a decent get-a-way car?
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: Kamaji on July 05, 2022, 08:08:26 pm
In a picture upthread, the palm of his hand is tattooed. I'm not around many "inked" people, but that is something I've never seen.
I do think he has issues...nobody in their right mind wants to be police chase in a Fit, aside from all his other actions. He had the foresight to pack women's clothes but not get a decent get-a-way car?
I suspect that it's easier to acquire clothes than to acquire a car one does not own. Apparently, the car in question belonged to his mother. Perhaps the clothes did as well.
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: Wingnut on July 05, 2022, 08:32:13 pm
I got a feeling it wasn't the 1st time that boy dressed in women's clothes.
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: mystery-ak on July 05, 2022, 08:40:08 pm
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: mystery-ak on July 05, 2022, 09:20:45 pm
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Rep. Eric Swalwell @RepSwalwell · 2h Robert E. Crimo III was a 22 yr old Trump supporter who was able to legally purchase deadly military-style weapons without background checks because that is what Pro-Killer Republicans in Congress have allowed him to do.
this coming from a traitor.... :cool:
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: Kamaji on July 05, 2022, 09:25:42 pm
This guy was going down the rabbit-hole fast, and throwing off all sorts of signs; his parents must have been willfully blind to have not seen what was right before their eyes.
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: GtHawk on July 05, 2022, 09:28:03 pm
How odd, his uncle stated that he never exhibited any behavior that caused concern, he was just a quiet loner with no job or friends who lived in the basement....no red flags there at all.
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: Kamaji on July 05, 2022, 09:28:30 pm
How odd, his uncle stated that he never exhibited any behavior that caused concern, he was just a quiet loner with no job or friends who lived in the basement....no red flags there at all.
:thumbsup:
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: GtHawk on July 05, 2022, 09:41:27 pm
Correct me if I'm wrong, aren't weapons, any weapons whether the knives and sword he had confiscated in the past or any type of firearm military or civilian, by definition deadly? And how does CF know how the weapons were acquired, has anyone seen details on that yet? Also fartboy should be much more concerned over all the deaths from Fentanyl being sent to America by his Chicom handlers in an effort to destroy our young.
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: Kamaji on July 05, 2022, 09:45:52 pm
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: mystery-ak on July 05, 2022, 09:49:58 pm
Greg Price @greg_price11 · 1h Highland Park police just told us that they came to the shooter's house in 2019 after his family member said he made death threats, removed 16 knives, a dagger and a sword from his house, filed a police report, and he was still able to pass Illinois' universal background check.
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: mystery-ak on July 05, 2022, 09:57:05 pm
Highland Park Fourth of July parade shooting victims identified
The Lake County Coroner's Office has released the identities of six of the seven people who were killed during a mass shooting at a Fourth of July parade in Highland Park, Illinois.
The victims are Katherine Goldstein, 64, Irina McCarthy, 35, Kevin McCarthy, 37, Jacquelyn Sundheim, 63, and Stephen Straus, 88, all from Highland Park, and Nicolas Toledo-Zaragoza of Morelos, Mexico, 78.
Police announced Tuesday that a seventh victim has died of injuries sustained in the mass shooting. Their identity has not been released. Posted by Bradford Betz
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Post by: mystery-ak on July 05, 2022, 09:58:10 pm
Highland Park mass shooting suspect had two prior incidents, police said
Robert Crimo, the suspect in the Highland Park Fourth of July parade shooting that killed seven and wounded dozens, was involved in two incidents prior to the massacre, police said Tuesday.
In April 2019, an individual called police a week after learning of Crimo attempting suicide, authorities said. Police said the matter was handled by mental health professionals with no law enforcement.
In September 2019, a family member reported Crimo had a collection of knives and “was going to kill everyone,” authorities said. Police responded to the incident and removed the weapons from Crimo’s possession, police said. Highland Park police notified State Police of the incident but no further actions were taken. Posted by Bradford Betz
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Post by: mystery-ak on July 05, 2022, 10:00:56 pm
Highland Park July 4th parade shooting suspect entered synagogue near massacre in April
The suspected shooter in Monday's July 4th parade mass shooting in Highland Park, Illinois, entered a synagogue during Passover in April just a few blocks away from where the massacre would eventually take place, but left shortly after being noticed by security guards and congregants.
"He entered wearing a yarmulke yet seemed out of place. Upon arriving, he was greeted by our security team, which includes off-duty police officers, and licensed and trained congregants, who observed him throughout," Rabbi Yosef Schanowitz of the North Suburban Lubavitch Chabad wrote on the synagogue's website Tuesday. "A short while later he departed without incident."
Read More. (https://www.foxnews.com/us/highland-park-july-4th-parade-shooting-suspect-synagogue-april) Posted by Bradford Betz
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: mystery-ak on July 05, 2022, 10:17:05 pm
If his father or a friend gave it to him...he's still in possession of it illegally. I learned from my MP ex son-in-law about the complexities of Illinois firearms laws.
He's stationed at Scott AFB. He can't even go into the PX and buy a rifle or ammo without a FOID card.
Nothing new about that. I was a Special Forces Weapons man in the mid-60's,and I had to get written permission to buy a 22 caliber rifle,check it into the arms room for safe keeping,and get permission to take it out by telling them in writing what I was going to do with it,and where I was going to shoot it,if I was going to shoot.
AND....,I had full access to all sorts of full-auto weapons of both US manufacture as well as foreign,and could walk into the army room and get a case of C-4 without any paperwork or having to tell anyone what I was going to do with it.
The problem was NOT with the SF community officers or senior NCO's worrying about me,it was the over-riding regulations of "Big Army" that just HAD to micro-manage every detail of everything every single day.
Just think about THAT one for a minute. I could check out a M-60 Machine gun and belts of ammo for it without any problem,but needed a special permit to buy a 22 LR semi-auto rifle.
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: sneakypete on July 05, 2022, 10:34:21 pm
BTW,although that is true,it doesn't mean the weapon was illegal. POSSESSION of it was illegal by the boy due to his age. Which,I guess,means his father is going to end up getting arrested too,and be damn lucky to not be charged as an accomplice to murder.
Don't know who bought and legally owned the other weapons and ammo he had at home,but I am guessing they are in DEEP doo-doo,also.
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: sneakypete on July 05, 2022, 10:36:13 pm
Well,the truth is the M-16/AR-15 series of rifles are not really "high-powered rifles". It will absolutely break the hearts of the leftists if they are ever forced to admit to that reality.
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: sneakypete on July 05, 2022, 10:38:02 pm
I see in some photos,he has tats on his face,neck,and hands,and in other photos he doesn't. I think he must have been playing "dress-up" with decals or drawings at times.
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: sneakypete on July 05, 2022, 10:40:31 pm
Nothing new about that. I was a Special Forces Weapons man in the mid-60's,and I had to get written permission to buy a 22 caliber rifle,check it into the arms room for safe keeping,and get permission to take it out by telling them in writing what I was going to do with it,and where I was going to shoot it,if I was going to shoot.
AND....,I had full access to all sorts of full-auto weapons of both US manufacture as well as foreign,and could walk into the army room and get a case of C-4 without any paperwork or having to tell anyone what I was going to do with it.
The problem was NOT with the SF community officers or senior NCO's worrying about me,it was the over-riding regulations of "Big Army" that just HAD to micro-manage every detail of everything every single day.
Just think about THAT one for a minute. I could check out a M-60 Machine gun and boxes of ammo for it without any problem,but needed a special permit to buy a 22 LR semi-auto rifle.
:thud:
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: Kamaji on July 05, 2022, 11:57:38 pm
Red flag laws only work if they are properly applied. This guy had so many red flags going, it's astounding that the bulls in Madrid weren't heading in his direction.
Why did the red flag laws fail in his case?
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: mystery-ak on July 06, 2022, 12:19:25 am
Highland Park Shooting Suspect Possessed FOID Card, Allowing Him to Legally Buy Guns in Illinois
AWR Hawkins 5 Jul 2022
The shooting suspect in the Highland Park July 4th parade attack possessed an Illinois Firearm Owners Identification (FOID) card, enabling him to legally purchase guns in the state.
CBS News reports that the suspect has had a FOID card since 2020.
PBS noted that County Major Crimes Task Force’s Christopher Covelli said the shooting suspect legally purchased five guns over the course of a year. Covelli could not remember the specific dates but believed the purchases occurred in 2020 and 2021.
Covelli explained that the suspect bought “at least two rifles, some pistols, and possibly a shotgun.”
He indicated the firearm the suspect used was “similar to an AR-15,” but he did not provide the specific caliber of the rifle or any other specifics regarding the make.
Illinois State Police Master Sergeant Delilah Garcia was also at the press conference at which Covelli spoke, and she was asked how the suspect was able to get a FOID card despite police being contacted about the suspect in September 2019. The Guardian reports that police were contacted because the suspect allegedly threatened “to kill everyone” in his family’s home.
Garcia noted that Illinois State Police did a data search on the suspect, and he did not have a pending FOID card application at that time so there was no action taken.
She said, “The individual named in the report did not have a FOID card or anything to revoke or to review.”
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: mystery-ak on July 06, 2022, 12:37:27 am
Parents of Highland Park July 4 shooting suspect release statement: 'this is a terrible tragedy'
The parents of Robert "Bobby" E. Crimo III, the suspect in the mass shooting that killed seven people and wounded dozens of others at a Fourth of July parade in Highland Park, Illinois have released a statement through their attorney.
"We are all mothers and fathers, sisters and brothers, and this is a terrible tragedy for many families, the victims, the paradegoers, the community, and our own. Our hearts, thoughts, and prayers go out to everybody." Posted by Bradford Betz
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: mystery-ak on July 06, 2022, 12:42:07 am
Highland Park shooting: Harris calls on Congress to ban assault weapons
Vice President Kamala Harris Tuesday condemned the Fourth of July shooting in Highland Park, Illinois, while calling on Congress to have "the courage to act" and renew the assault weapons ban to "end this horror," and protect communities across the nation from "the terror of gun violence."
The vice president traveled to Chicago Tuesday with her husband, Second Gentleman Douglas Emhoff on the heels of a deadly weekend in Chicago—including a shooting at a Fourth of July parade on the outskirts of the city in Highland Park that took the lives of seven and left over 30 injured.
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: mystery-ak on July 06, 2022, 12:59:13 am
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: mystery-ak on July 06, 2022, 01:06:36 am
EXCLUSIVE: Highland Park shooter and younger brother were 'always the last ones to be picked up from school' because their dad was working and 'flighty' mom forgot, coach reveals
Bobby Crimo, 22, and his younger brother Sam were enrolled in the afterschool sports program at Lincoln Elementary School They were often the last kids to be picked up because their parents 'forgot' Coach Jeremy Cahnmann says the boys were quiet, 'more reserved' than others in the class and seemed to get along He said their mother Denise seemed 'flighty' and often didn't show up for them Their deli-owner dad Bob Crimo Sr. was just as unreliable, he said Bobby went on to study in high school but it's unclear if he graduated or what he did after that He had been filming amateur rap videos in the years before the shooting
By Jennifer Smith, Chief Reporter For Dailymail.Com
Published: 16:50 EDT, 5 July 2022 | Updated: 17:32 EDT, 5 July 2022
Highland Park shooter Bobby Crimo and his younger brother were often left behind at their afterschool program because their 'flighty' mom forgot to pick them up or their dad was at work, DailyMail.com can reveal.
Crimo, 21, attended Lincoln Elementary School with his younger brother Sam. Between 2008 and 2014, they attended the LEAP afterschool program.
Jeremy Cahnmann, 47, was a sports coach in the program. He told DailyMail.com how out of hundreds of kids he taught over the years, the Crimo brothers stood out because their parents often left them behind.
(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/07/05/21/59903777-10985103-image-m-4_1657051678689.jpg) Highland Park shooter Bobby Crimo, right, with his mom Denise (main in red), half-sister Lynette (second left) and younger brother Sam in a 2017 photo
more https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10985103/Highland-Park-shooter-picked-school-brother-coach-reveals.html?ito=social-twitter_dailymailus
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: sneakypete on July 06, 2022, 01:49:58 am
EXCLUSIVE: Highland Park shooter and younger brother were 'always the last ones to be picked up from school' because their dad was working and 'flighty' mom forgot, coach reveals
Bobby Crimo, 22, and his younger brother Sam were enrolled in the afterschool sports program at Lincoln Elementary School They were often the last kids to be picked up because their parents 'forgot' Coach Jeremy Cahnmann says the boys were quiet, 'more reserved' than others in the class and seemed to get along He said their mother Denise seemed 'flighty' and often didn't show up for them Their deli-owner dad Bob Crimo Sr. was just as unreliable, he said Bobby went on to study in high school but it's unclear if he graduated or what he did after that He had been filming amateur rap videos in the years before the shooting
By Jennifer Smith, Chief Reporter For Dailymail.Com
Published: 16:50 EDT, 5 July 2022 | Updated: 17:32 EDT, 5 July 2022
Highland Park shooter Bobby Crimo and his younger brother were often left behind at their afterschool program because their 'flighty' mom forgot to pick them up or their dad was at work, DailyMail.com can reveal.
Crimo, 21, attended Lincoln Elementary School with his younger brother Sam. Between 2008 and 2014, they attended the LEAP afterschool program.
Jeremy Cahnmann, 47, was a sports coach in the program. He told DailyMail.com how out of hundreds of kids he taught over the years, the Crimo brothers stood out because their parents often left them behind.
(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/07/05/21/59903777-10985103-image-m-4_1657051678689.jpg) Highland Park shooter Bobby Crimo, right, with his mom Denise (main in red), half-sister Lynette (second left) and younger brother Sam in a 2017 photo
I hate it when the media posts photos of brothers,sisters,and children after an incident like this. These girls and that boy are probably suffering as much horror right now as the families of the people their brother murdered,and here is the media letting everyone know what they look like,just like they were co-conspirators.
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: libertybele on July 06, 2022, 01:54:08 am
I hate it when the media posts photos of brothers,sisters,and children after an incident like this. These girls and that boy are probably suffering as much horror right now as the families of the people their brother murdered,and here is the media letting everyone know what they look like,just like they were co-conspirators.
Exactly. People are suffering on both sides; a tragedy all way around.
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: Cyber Liberty on July 06, 2022, 04:00:17 am
Highland Park Shooting Suspect Possessed FOID Card, Allowing Him to Legally Buy Guns in Illinois
AWR Hawkins 5 Jul 2022
The shooting suspect in the Highland Park July 4th parade attack possessed an Illinois Firearm Owners Identification (FOID) card, enabling him to legally purchase guns in the state.
CBS News reports that the suspect has had a FOID card since 2020.
PBS noted that County Major Crimes Task Force’s Christopher Covelli said the shooting suspect legally purchased five guns over the course of a year. Covelli could not remember the specific dates but believed the purchases occurred in 2020 and 2021.
Covelli explained that the suspect bought “at least two rifles, some pistols, and possibly a shotgun.”
He indicated the firearm the suspect used was “similar to an AR-15,” but he did not provide the specific caliber of the rifle or any other specifics regarding the make.
Illinois State Police Master Sergeant Delilah Garcia was also at the press conference at which Covelli spoke, and she was asked how the suspect was able to get a FOID card despite police being contacted about the suspect in September 2019. The Guardian reports that police were contacted because the suspect allegedly threatened “to kill everyone” in his family’s home.
Garcia noted that Illinois State Police did a data search on the suspect, and he did not have a pending FOID card application at that time so there was no action taken.
She said, “The individual named in the report did not have a FOID card or anything to revoke or to review.”
So in other words, if I'm understanding what he said here, only if one already has an application pending or an issued FOID can action be taken. One can't be denied an application or approval based on a prior incident?
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: txradioguy on July 06, 2022, 12:14:44 pm
I never really considered an AR-15 a "high powered rifle." I would call .308, 30-30 or the beloved 30-06 high powered.
Most people that know firearms think the way you do. But this is the media we're talking about.
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on July 06, 2022, 12:39:58 pm
Parents of Highland Park July 4 shooting suspect release statement: 'this is a terrible tragedy'
The parents of Robert "Bobby" E. Crimo III, the suspect in the mass shooting that killed seven people and wounded dozens of others at a Fourth of July parade in Highland Park, Illinois have released a statement through their attorney.
"We are all mothers and fathers, sisters and brothers, and this is a terrible tragedy for many families, the victims, the paradegoers, the community, and our own. Our hearts, thoughts, and prayers go out to everybody." Posted by Bradford Betz
That's fine, but they are culpable as they were all in the best possible position for not monitoring and reporting the mental case in their household.
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on July 06, 2022, 12:41:47 pm
Red flag laws only work if they are properly applied. This guy had so many red flags going, it's astounding that the bulls in Madrid weren't heading in his direction.
Why did the red flag laws fail in his case?
And why is this require national laws to confront what is obviously a local and state issue?
They are the ones that have the laws on the books that did nothing to stop the killing.
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: Kamaji on July 06, 2022, 12:43:02 pm
And why is this require national laws to confront what is obviously a local and state issue?
They are the ones that have the laws on the books that did nothing to stop the killing.
Why shoe-horn that in here? Illinois already has a red flag law.
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on July 06, 2022, 12:44:34 pm
I see in some photos,he has tats on his face,neck,and hands,and in other photos he doesn't. I think he must have been playing "dress-up" with decals or drawings at times.
He also dressed up as a woman during the shooting so Ketanji Brown Jackson would not recognize him.
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on July 06, 2022, 12:45:53 pm
Go back and read posting. The guy called for NATIONAL laws to combat
A national law would, actually, be of benefit because it would allow for more uniform reporting across state boundaries. It's the same reason why commercial driver's licenses are now subject to national regulation rather than just per-state regulation (except for so-called purely intrastate licenses). Without a nationwide reporting structure, someone who engages in flagrantly red-flag behavior in State A may still be able to purchase firearms in State B, even if State A and State B both have robust red-flag laws, if State A's reports don't make it into State B's reporting system.
The fundamental flaw in many of these reporting systems appears to be that juvenile reports are either not put into the system, or else are wiped out of the system once the individual reaches majority. That needs to change.
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on July 06, 2022, 12:50:17 pm
A national law would, actually, be of benefit because it would allow for more uniform reporting across state boundaries. It's the same reason why commercial driver's licenses are now subject to national regulation rather than just per-state regulation (except for so-called purely intrastate licenses). Without a nationwide reporting structure, someone who engages in flagrantly red-flag behavior in State A may still be able to purchase firearms in State B, even if State A and State B both have robust red-flag laws, if State A's reports don't make it into State B's reporting system.
You are speaking of information sharing while the guy in the post clearly wants a NATIONAL ban on assault weapons even though it is clearly a local and state issue.
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: Kamaji on July 06, 2022, 01:10:58 pm
You are speaking of information sharing while the guy in the post clearly wants a NATIONAL ban on assault weapons even though it is clearly a local and state issue.
A national ban on assault rifles is not what I mentioned, was not the subject of the post you responded to, and is not germane to the subject I was discussing in particular. If you want to go off on a tangent, fine, but let's stop arguing at cross-purposes then.
And a ban on so-called assault rifles isn't going to fly anyways, so it's a moot point.
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: txradioguy on July 06, 2022, 01:12:21 pm
So it's looking like the IL State Police actually did issue Crimo an FOID card...two years after they removed knives and a sword from his house after threatening to kill everyone and commit suicide.
And yet it took my ex son-in-law who is a Security Forces airman stationed at Scott AFB over a year to obtain an "expedited" FOID card.
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: Hoodat on July 06, 2022, 01:19:10 pm
I never really considered an AR-15 a "high powered rifle." I would call .308, 30-30 or the beloved 30-06 high powered.
If you don't risk breaking your nose when firing, then it's not a high powered rifle.
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: Kamaji on July 06, 2022, 01:32:59 pm
Father of July Fourth shooter helped son buy firearm just two months after cops took away his collection of knives when he threatened to 'kill everyone': Parents release statement saying 'this is a terrible tragedy for many families... and our own'
By PAUL FARRELL FOR DAILYMAIL.COM 6 July 2022
The parents of Highland Park shooter Robert 'Bobby' Crimo III, 21, have finally spoken out - and branded their sons actions a 'tragedy' - after it emerged the shooter's dad helped him buy a gun months after cops confiscated his knife collection.
Bob Crimo and his wife, Denise, said in a brief statement: 'We are all mothers and fathers, sisters and brothers, and this is a terrible tragedy for many families, the victims, the paradegoers, the community, and our own. Our hearts, thoughts, and prayers go out to everybody.'
But it emerged on Tuesday that Bob Crimo had sponsored his killer son's application for a gun permit in 2020, even after the murderer had threatened to kill himself and his family.
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on July 06, 2022, 01:47:12 pm
A national ban on assault rifles is not what I mentioned, was not the subject of the post you responded to, and is not germane to the subject I was discussing in particular. If you want to go off on a tangent, fine, but let's stop arguing at cross-purposes then.
And a ban on so-called assault rifles isn't going to fly anyways, so it's a moot point.
You really need to read what you posted.
After announcing that the Highland Park shooter will be charged with 7 counts of murder, the State Attorney Eric Rinehart praises red flag laws and calls for a nationwide assault weapons ban both of which are currently on the books in Illinois and Highland Park and failed. https://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,474322.msg2669558.html#msg2669558
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on July 06, 2022, 01:51:11 pm
"Vice President Kamala Harris just spoke at the scene of the Highland Park mass shooting.
“We have to take this stuff seriously, as seriously as you are because you have been forced to take this seriously,” she said." (Video)
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: mystery-ak on July 06, 2022, 02:05:15 pm
July 6, 2022 12:39am EDT Police flagged Highland Park shooter ‘clear and present danger’ in 2019; he later cleared 4 background checks Crimo successfully cleared four firearm purchase background checks between 2020 and 2021 By Lawrence Richard | Fox News
The suspect in the Highland Park, Illinois, Fourth of July mass shooting was flagged by police as a "clear and present danger" in 2019, authorities said Tuesday.
Robert "Bobby" E. Crimo III, 21, the suspect in the mass shooting that killed seven people and wounded dozens of others at a Fourth of July parade, was still able to clear state-required background checks to purchase firearms on at least four separate occasions between 2020 and 2021, the Illinois State Police said.
"In September 2019, ISP received a Clear and Present Danger report on the subject from the Highland Park Police Department. The report was related to threats the subject made against his family," Illinois State Police said in a statement posted to Twitter by a staff member for Illinois Gov. JB Pritzker.
The report said that when Highland Park officers went to the family's home and asked Crimo if he felt like harming himself of others, he said no. Police said Crimo's father claimed knives in the home belonged to him and they were being kept in Crimo's closet for safekeeping. Based on that information, Highland Park Police returned the knives to the father that day.
The statement said police did not make any arrests at the time and that members of the family were "not willing to move forward on a complaint."
more https://www.foxnews.com/us/highland-park-shooter-flagged-clear-present-danger-2019
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: mystery-ak on July 06, 2022, 02:24:40 pm
Parents of July 4th shooter dispute police reports he was suicidal or threatened to kill, see no issue with dad helping him buy gun, says attorney July 6, 2022 | Kevin Haggerty
The parents of the suspected killer in the Highland Park Fourth of July parade shooting have broken their silence on their son’s alleged crime and in their first message they’ve announced that they, too, are victims of this tragedy.
Twenty-one-year-old suspect Robert Crimo III’s unusual behavior raised many questions as to how he was able to obtain a firearm to allegedly kill seven and wound dozens more outside Chicago Monday. As previously reported, the suspect had a “clear and present danger” report filed with the Illinois State Police who say that the suspect’s father, Bob Crimo, had endorsed the purchase of a firearm when his son was 19 only a few short months after law enforcement had responded to a call that the young man had made threats against his own family.
more https://www.bizpacreview.com/2022/07/06/parents-of-july-4th-shooter-dispute-police-reports-he-was-suicidal-or-threatened-to-kill-see-no-issue-with-dad-helping-him-buy-gun-says-attorney-1258186/
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: 240B on July 06, 2022, 02:27:48 pm
The father was running for office. He knew the kid was messed up and dangerous and had weapons but did not want to 'make a scene' which could have hurt his political ambitions. The father could not have known what the face tattoo was going to do, but he must have known the kid was dangerous and in need of serious help.
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: mystery-ak on July 06, 2022, 02:57:05 pm
EXCLUSIVE: July Fourth gunman Robert Crimo videoed himself building his tiny home in the backyard of his parents' house and painting armed soldier on their wall
In a series of videos posted online, Highland Park shooter Robert Crimo posted a video showing him building his home beside his parent's home While in another, Crimo is shown painting a man with a rifle with a smiley face emoji over his face on a wall in his parents backyard In another bizarre video Crimo repeats the word: 'Freedom' and asks : 'Have you been held a prisoner of your own device?' Crimo could face life in prison after being charged with seven counts of first degree murder, authorities say that he could face at least a dozen more charges
By Josh Boswell and Paul Farrell For Dailymail.Com
Published: 01:46 EDT, 6 July 2022 | Updated: 10:15 EDT, 6 July 2022
The gunman who killed seven people in a shooting at a fourth of July celebration in Highland Park, Illinois, posted videos online of him building his own home and painting a soldier on the wall of his parents' backyard.
Robert 'Bobby' Crimo III, 21, is facing seven counts of first degree murder in Lake County, Illinois, for his alleged role in the shooting. Authorities say that Crimo fired on a crowd enjoying an Independence Day parade in the town.
Crimo also went by the moniker Awake the Rapper.
In a blog archive obtained by DailyMail.com, many of Crimo's bizarre videos have come to light.
The suspect archived a livestream of him building the small shed where he lived at the time of the shooting. The shed is located beside his parents home along Pleasant Avenue in Highwood, Illinois, just north of where the shooting took place.
much much more https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10986199/July-Fourth-shooter-Robert-Crimo-built-tiny-home-backyard-parents-house.html
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: DCPatriot on July 06, 2022, 03:11:45 pm
Father of July Fourth shooter helped son buy firearm just two months after cops took away his collection of knives when he threatened to 'kill everyone': Parents release statement saying 'this is a terrible tragedy for many families... and our own'
By PAUL FARRELL FOR DAILYMAIL.COM 6 July 2022
The parents of Highland Park shooter Robert 'Bobby' Crimo III, 21, have finally spoken out - and branded their sons actions a 'tragedy' - after it emerged the shooter's dad helped him buy a gun months after cops confiscated his knife collection.
Bob Crimo and his wife, Denise, said in a brief statement: 'We are all mothers and fathers, sisters and brothers, and this is a terrible tragedy for many families, the victims, the paradegoers, the community, and our own. Our hearts, thoughts, and prayers go out to everybody.'
But it emerged on Tuesday that Bob Crimo had sponsored his killer son's application for a gun permit in 2020, even after the murderer had threatened to kill himself and his family.
FEAR is a reason that his father didn't say "NO". Saw it up close and personal.
Had a years-long relationship with a Kim Basinger doppelganger. She had a son who had their entire household in constant white knuckle mode.
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: mystery-ak on July 06, 2022, 03:19:55 pm
How the Highland Park Shooter Reportedly Obtained His Guns Is Beyond Ridiculous Matt Vespa
Posted: Jul 06, 2022 12:01 AM
The number of red flags that have been raised about Robert Crimo III is staggering. Again, this was another preventable tragedy. Crimo went to a rooftop and opened fire on a crowd in Highland Park, Illinois, who were there attending an Independence Day event. Seven people were killed, with at least another 45 wounded. Crimo was apprehended by police Monday evening, but as with other mass shooters—the number of red flags could stuff the trunk of a car.
Crimo was a prolific social media user with numerous posts featuring violent content. He was known to law enforcement. His mental health issues date back as far as middle school. Crimo also had a disturbing family incident, which Spencer will dive into later this morning.
So, how did Crimo get his weapons? They were all purchased legally, but in Illinois, you need a Firearm Owners Identification card (FOID) to own guns and ammunition. Crimo's father co-signed for his son's card in 2019, even after his past behavior. I have a feeling that this whole family is going to land in hot legal water. If they knew this kid was a problem, did nothing, and then signed a firearms card for him—they deserve to be charged as well (via Chicago Tribune):
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Investigators believe Crimo disguised himself as a woman in order to hide his facial tattoos and aid in his escape from the scene, according to Covelli.
After the shooting, Crimo walked to his mother’s house and borrowed her vehicle, Covelli said. There is no indication he shared anything about his alleged involvement in the shooting with his mother.
Following a police alert for the vehicle, an “alert member of community” saw it and called 911, Covelli said.
Before being captured, Crimo drove into Wisconsin and returned to the north suburbs, Covelli said.
After he was apprehended, officers found another rifle in the vehicle, Covelli said, which also appeared to have been legally purchased by Crimo. Three other weapons that were legally purchased were found in his Highwood home.
Father of July Fourth shooter helped son buy firearm just two months after cops took away his collection of knives when he threatened to 'kill everyone': Parents release statement saying 'this is a terrible tragedy for many families... and our own'
By PAUL FARRELL FOR DAILYMAIL.COM 6 July 2022
The parents of Highland Park shooter Robert 'Bobby' Crimo III, 21, have finally spoken out - and branded their sons actions a 'tragedy' - after it emerged the shooter's dad helped him buy a gun months after cops confiscated his knife collection.
Bob Crimo and his wife, Denise, said in a brief statement: 'We are all mothers and fathers, sisters and brothers, and this is a terrible tragedy for many families, the victims, the paradegoers, the community, and our own. Our hearts, thoughts, and prayers go out to everybody.'
But it emerged on Tuesday that Bob Crimo had sponsored his killer son's application for a gun permit in 2020, even after the murderer had threatened to kill himself and his family.
There you have it. Dad helped the son buy a friggen gun, knowing the son was suicidal and was making videos about killing. Dad is partly to blame.
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: DCPatriot on July 06, 2022, 03:57:56 pm
For the love of Dog...why is the mom's chest blurred out?
Is she wearing a crucifix? Because there's nothing even PG-13 rated there.
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: mystery-ak on July 06, 2022, 04:11:59 pm
(https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2022/07/1862/1046/AP22186683514657.jpg?ve=1&tl=1) Brooke and Matt Strauss, who were married Sunday, pause after leaving their wedding bouquets in downtown Highland Park, Ill., a Chicago suburb, near the scene of Monday's mass shooting, Tuesday, July 5, 2022. (AP Photo/Charles Rex Arbogast)
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: Hoodat on July 06, 2022, 04:16:59 pm
Is she wearing a crucifix? Because there's nothing even PG-13 rated there.
Could be a Star of David.
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: mystery-ak on July 06, 2022, 04:18:03 pm
(https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2022/07/1862/1046/highland-park-booking-head-on-side.jpg?ve=1&tl=1) Accused Highland Park gunman Robert E. Crimo III, 21, seen in first booking photo. (Lake County Major Crime Task Force )
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: mystery-ak on July 06, 2022, 04:21:52 pm
July 6, 2022 11:41am EDT Highland Park shooting suspect appears virtually in court on 7 murder counts The 21-year-old Crimo is charged with 7 counts of murder for the Independence Day attack
By Rebecca Rosenberg , Michael Ruiz | Fox News
Highland Park Fourth of July parade shooting suspect Robert Crimo III appeared in an Illinois courtroom Wednesday via video from jail and learned he will be held without bond after allegedly opening fire on a crowd in the affluent suburb outside Chicago.
Crimo, 21, allegedly fired more than 80 rounds at a crowd of spectators Monday morning in a suburb of Chicago, killing seven people and injuring dozens, before fleeing the scene dressed as a woman, authorities said.
According to prosecutors, Crimo confessed to shooting at innocent paradegoers from a rooftop perch. He allegedly admitted to dressing up in a woman's clothing and covering his tattoos in makeup to try and conceal is identity. After he fled the rooftop, according to prosecutors, his Smith & Wesson M&P 15 rifle fell out of his bag in a back alley.
Authorities said they recovered the rifle, three 30-round magazines and 83 spent shell casings. And prosecutors said police were familiar with him and able to identify him when they saw his face on surveillance and cellphone video.
Prosecutors filed a petition for the suspect to be held without bond and Judge Theodore S. Potkonjak agreed. Crimo faces up to life imprisonment.
After an hours-long manhunt, Crimo was arrested Monday evening while driving in his mother's Honda Fit in Lake Forest, Illinois.
In announcing the charges Tuesday, Lake County State's Attorney Eric Rinehart told reporters that Crimo will be hit with dozens of additional charges centered around each victim.
"These are just the first of many charges that will be filed against Mr Crimo. I just want to emphasize that," the prosecutor said.
more https://www.foxnews.com/us/highland-park-shooting-suspect-court-7-murder-counts
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: Cyber Liberty on July 06, 2022, 04:27:21 pm
For the love of Dog...why is the mom's chest blurred out?
Is she wearing a crucifix? Because there's nothing even PG-13 rated there.
I was wondering the same thing. It appears she has a nice rack....
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: mystery-ak on July 06, 2022, 04:55:27 pm
Highland Park Shooter Is Neither MAGA Nor Antifa–Just Crazy, Former Friend Says By Debra Heine July 5, 2022
Robert Crimo, the Highland Park shooting suspect, is neither a conservative Trump supporter, nor a left-wing antifa radical, according to a friend who claims to know him. “He was an isolated stoner who lost touch with reality,” Bennett Brizes—a college student who claims he “made music” with Crimo from 2015 to 2018—wrote on Twitter.
According to the Washington Post, analysts who have studied Crimo’s online postings have not been able to find “a clear political or ideological motive” thus far.
Crimo, 21, is accused of killing at least six and wounding more than 30 in a shooting rampage on the Chicago suburb 4th of July parade. Investigators say he shot at parade-goers from a rooftop as the community celebrated Independence Day. He dressed in women’s clothes to help conceal his identity, police said.
“During the attack, Crimo was dressed in women’s clothing and investigators do believe he did this to conceal his facial tattoos and his identity and help him during the escape,” Chris Covelli, spokesperson for the Lake County Major Crimes Task Force, told reporters on Tuesday. Police believe Crimo pre-planned this attack for several weeks.
more https://amgreatness.com/2022/07/05/highland-park-shooter-is-neither-maga-nor-antifa-just-crazy-former-friend-says/
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: DCPatriot on July 06, 2022, 05:08:32 pm
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: Gefn on July 06, 2022, 05:09:03 pm
Highland Park gunman Robert Crimo contemplated second shooting: authorities
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LAKE COUNTY, IL — The alleged Highland Park Fourth of July gunman confessed to slaughtering innocent parade-goers and then “seriously contemplated” shooting up another celebration in the hours that he was on the run, authorities revealed Wednesday.
Robert E. “Bobby” Crimo III, 21, allegedly had another rifle and approximately 60 rounds on him when he fled Highland Park after allegedly killing seven and injuring more than 40 others on Monday.
He then drove towards the Madison, Wisconsin area in his mother’s car — but turned back to Illinois, where he was later nabbed, after deciding he wasn’t fully prepared to pull off the second shooting, according to authorities.
“While he was driving and he located this celebration occurring in the Madison area, he contemplated another attack with a firearm he had in his car,” Lake County Major Crime Task Force spokesman Christopher Covelli told a news conference.
Pentagram? I feel sorry for the this animals siblings but the parents should be sued for every penny they have and prosecuted (if possible) for aiding and abetting their lunatic son. They should have pressed charges when he threatened to kill them, maybe he would have gotten some help maybe he wouldn't have been able to legally buy guns. And I have to figure that when they say the father helped him buy the guns they mean the father payed for the guns and ammo, otherwise how could an unemployed psychopath afford them?
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: Kamaji on July 06, 2022, 05:30:29 pm
After announcing that the Highland Park shooter will be charged with 7 counts of murder, the State Attorney Eric Rinehart praises red flag laws and calls for a nationwide assault weapons ban both of which are currently on the books in Illinois and Highland Park and failed. https://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,474322.msg2669558.html#msg2669558
Whatever, chief.
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: mystery-ak on July 06, 2022, 05:54:17 pm
July 6, 2022 12:45pm EDT Highland Park parade shooting suspect 'contemplated' a second attack, officials reveal The gunman allegedly fired more than 70 rounds into a crowd of spectators at a Fourth of July parade outside Chicago
By Rebecca Rosenberg | Fox News
Accused Highland Park parade shooter Robert Crimo III "contemplated" a second attack on revelers in Wisconsin before he was arrested, officials revealed Wednesday at a press conference.
"While he was driving, he located this celebration occurring in the Madison area, he contemplated another attack with the firearm he had in his car, "Lake County Major Crimes Task Force spokesman Christopher Covelli told reporters Wednesday.
The remarks came minutes after Crimo, 21, made his first appearance in an Illinois courtroom on seven counts of murder for the Fourth of July mass shooting.
Judge Theodore Potkonjak ordered Crimo held without bail.
After Crimo allegedly opened fire on paradegoers Monday morning from a rooftop, killing seven and wounding dozens more, he fled disguised as a woman and drove to Wisconsin in his mother's car.
He still had AR-15 assault style rifle and approximately 60 rounds left but hadn't done enough research to pull off the second shooting, Covelli said.
"There are indications that he didn’t put enough planing forward to commit another attack," said Covelli, flanked by Lake County State's Attorney Eric Rinehart.
Covelli said Crimo ditched his cellphone in the 6500 block of University Avenue in Middleton, which was recovered by the FBI and is currently being processed.
more https://www.foxnews.com/us/highland-park-parade-shooting-suspect-contemplated-second-attack
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: Idiot on July 06, 2022, 06:20:48 pm
The kid admitted he did it. Just kill him already and be done with it.
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: Kamaji on July 06, 2022, 07:12:40 pm
I remember a conversation with a Democrat who was anti-death penalty. The conversation happened right after the Illinois governor had commuted the sentences of everyone on death row. This person was explaining to me what a great idea that was, and how we needed more leaders like this. He lost it when I pointed out that this governor he showed so much admiration for was a Republican.
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: DCPatriot on July 06, 2022, 07:19:54 pm
Even if it did, it would take 20+ years to execute him.
Crimes against humanity...which this certainly is...should be summary execution. NO APPEALS! NO LAST MEALS!
Maybe that might stop these narcissistic freaks.
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on July 06, 2022, 10:08:00 pm
Highland Park Fourth of July massacre suspect believed to have been turned away from synagogue A Jewish security group says that, after seeing photos of Robert E. “Bobby” Crimo III, a Highland Park rabbi “recognized him” as the man turned away from a Passover service at his synagogue in April. https://chicago.suntimes.com/2022/7/5/23195435/highland-park-mass-shooting-fourth-july-parade-robert-crimo-synagogue-chabad-michael-masters
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: Wingnut on July 06, 2022, 10:32:57 pm
Highland Park Fourth of July massacre suspect believed to have been turned away from synagogue A Jewish security group says that, after seeing photos of Robert E. “Bobby” Crimo III, a Highland Park rabbi “recognized him” as the man turned away from a Passover service at his synagogue in April. https://chicago.suntimes.com/2022/7/5/23195435/highland-park-mass-shooting-fourth-july-parade-robert-crimo-synagogue-chabad-michael-masters
I thought I read the father was Italian. Doesn't mean the mom isn't Jewish though.
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: mystery-ak on July 06, 2022, 11:31:11 pm
Several of the murdered were Jewish....don't know if they can prove a hate crime though.
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: mystery-ak on July 06, 2022, 11:53:09 pm
EXCLUSIVE: Eerie Call of Duty gaming videos posted by Highland Park gunman show his character shooting at people from rooftops before he murdered seven 'sniper-style' from store's roof at July 4 parade
Robert Crimo III, 21, has been charged with seven counts of first-degree murder after shooting at a crowd who gathered for a Fourth of July parade on Monday DailyMail.com has uncovered gaming videos Crimo posted where his avatar stood on rooftops and shot down his opponents On Monday, Crimo stood on a rooftop armed with a Smith & Wesson rifle and killed seven people, firing 83 rounds in total He appeared in court via Zoom on Wednesday morning from the Lake County Jail in Illinois He wore all black and spoke only to say that he didn't have an attorney; he was assigned a public defender Prosecutors said that he confessed to the shooting but has not given his motive He reloaded the weapon twice while carrying and dropped it when he ran away
By Kayla Brantley and Josh Boswell For Dailymail.com
Published: 15:23 EDT, 6 July 2022 | Updated: 17:12 EDT, 6 July 2022
more https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10987991/Highland-Park-gunman-posted-eerie-gaming-videos-showed-shooting-people-rooftops.html
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Post by: mystery-ak on July 06, 2022, 11:55:39 pm
Billionaire Bill Ackman donated $18,000 to toddler orphaned in Highland Park shooting: Grandparents say his father 'shielded him from bullets with his body'
Bill Ackman donated $18K to a GoFundMe for 2-year-old orphan Aiden McCarthy The billionaire is the largest donor to the crowdfunding account Aiden lost both of his parents in the Highland Park parade shooting on Monday He escaped death after his dad shielded him with his own body Aiden has been placed in the care of his grandparents The GoFundMe supporting his family has raised more than $2.5M
By Natasha Anderson For Dailymail.Com
Published: 17:36 EDT, 6 July 2022 | Updated: 17:48 EDT, 6 July 2022
Billionaire Bill Ackman donated $18,000 to a fundraiser supporting the family of a two-year-old boy orphaned in the Highland Park parade shooting.
Aiden McCarthy, 2, survived the hail of bullets Monday after his father, Kevin McCarthy, shielded him with his own body.
Kevin and his wife, Irina McCarthy, were both among the seven people killed when a gunman opened fire on a Fourth of July parade in Highland Park, an affluent Chicago suburb, with an AR-15-style weapon.
The crowdfunding page was established to help Aiden's grandparents with 'raising, caring for and supporting' him and has already raised over $2.5 million.
Confessed shooter Robert Crimo, 21, has been charged with seven counts of first-degree murder.
Lake County State Attorney Eric Rinehart said Tuesday that 'dozens' more charges would follow and he hopes to send Crimo to prison for life.
(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/07/06/21/59856353-10985321-Aiden_McCarthy_pictured_with_an_unknown_man_was_reunited_with_hi-a-31_1657140146088.jpg) Aiden McCarthy (pictured with an unknown man) has since been placed in the care of his grandparents
more https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10989125/Billionaire-Bill-Ackman-donated-18-000-toddler-orphaned-Highland-Park-shooting.html
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on July 07, 2022, 12:39:57 am
I thought I read the father was Italian. Doesn't mean the mom isn't Jewish though.
"The Italian Jewish community is one of the oldest in Europe." I guess there is no reason to assume all Italians that immigrated to America were Catholic.
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: GtHawk on July 07, 2022, 12:46:31 am
I do believe that is the sort of political "compromise" that all politicians work hard to accomplish.
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: Kamaji on July 07, 2022, 08:55:27 pm
Highland Park Suspect's Video Further Shoots Down Idea of Him Being a Trump Supporter
By Nick Arama Jul 07, 2022
I think we put paid to the claims from the left that Robert Crimo III — the man arrested in the Highland Park mass shooting — was a Trump supporter.
We saw Rep. Eric Swalwell (D-CA) train wreck all over that claim, and even curse out a man for simply asking what Swalwell’s evidence was that the suspect was a Trump supporter.
As we noted, one of Crimo’s friends said that the reason Crimo was at a Trump rally was that Crimo was trying to mock the Trump supporters. It was a goof; Crimo was not in any way a Trump supporter. He was dressed like “Waldo,” which is a joke started by Jimmy Kimmel against President Donald Trump. We’ve also reported how Crimo’s likes on his Twitter accounts were for talking points of the left, and the people he followed included Joe Biden and Kamala Harris–not to mention, that Trump supporters are not generally shooting up Fourth of July parades.
But there’s more information from the Daily Mail that indicates he wasn’t a Trump supporter.
They found a video in which he was building a shed to live in next to his father’s home. He also was painting a shooter on the side of the home, with a smiley face emoji on it. He commonly wore a shirt with that smiley face on it. In the video, he says to his followers, “What’s up, communists?” He also says “Death to America” — two things you’re likely not going to hear from a Trump supporter. So, if anyone needed more, there you go, that’s more that militates against that claim.
Crimo shows his car that has a “47” on it. People have wondered what 47 means, speculating that it might be a reversal of the day of the attack, and another indication that he had been planning it for a while. That might be, but since he also dressed like Agent 47 in the “Hitman” video game series, that’s likely the primary motivation for that obsession.
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: mystery-ak on July 08, 2022, 12:27:29 am
Crimo dad washes hands of guilt but talked with son about a mass shooting night before Highland Park massacre By Haley Brown and Gabrielle Fonrouge July 6, 2022 7:07pm
HIGHLAND PARK, Ill. – The dad of the accused Fourth of July parade killer told The Post on Wednesday that his son talked about a mass shooting in Denmark the night before allegedly launching his own massacre — and the dad washed his hands of any guilt over how the suspect got his gun.
The father, Robert Crimo Jr. — who has tapped one of R. Kelly’s lawyers to battle claims that he helped his mentally disturbed kid buy guns — said that the night before Monday’s shooting, he and son Robert Crimo III discussed the 22-year-old Danish man who shot and killed three people at a mall outside Copenhagen on Sunday.
“He goes, ‘Yeah, that guy is an idiot.’ That’s what he said!” the dad recalled his son saying of the Denmark shooter.
The father said his son added, “People like that … [commit mass shootings] to amp up the people that want to ban all guns.”
“I talked to him 13 hours before [Monday’s massacre]. That’s why I guess I’m in such shock. … Like, did he have a psychiatric break or something?” the father said of his son.
On Tuesday, Steven Greenberg, who previously represented R. Kelly in the fallen singing superstar’s federal sex-trafficking case out of Brooklyn, announced that Crimo Jr. and his estranged wife, Denise, had retained him in the wake of their son’s arrest.
The father, a onetime local mayoral candidate who used to run a neighborhood sandwich shop, has faced a wave of criticism for sponsoring his son’s gun license application, which allowed Crimo III to buy four guns, including his alleged slay weapon, before age 21.
The dad sponsored the application three months after his son was labeled
more https://nypost.com/2022/07/06/highland-park-shooter-robert-crimo-father-speaks-about-son/
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: Sighlass on July 08, 2022, 12:37:47 am
Dad was an enabler that didn't want to do the tough job of being a father that says "you have not proven yourself worthy of trust" in these areas... No gun for you, you are not mature enough to be a safe person with the responsibility of one (and may never be).
I am sure the lawyer is a coach on how to try to deflect blame.
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: Cyber Liberty on July 08, 2022, 02:39:23 am
Dad was an enabler that didn't want to do the tough job of being a father that says "you have not proven yourself worthy of trust" in these areas... No gun for you, you are not mature enough to be a safe person with the responsibility of one (and may never be).
I am sure the lawyer is a coach on how to try to deflect blame.
That proud Papa is in some pretty deep trouble. He's admitting he was an accessory to a mass murder every time he opens his yap. Meanwhile, there's a town full of people ready to kill him themselves if he doesn't face justice for this.
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: 240B on July 08, 2022, 03:25:42 am
When the Dad bought the kid a rifle, what could he have possibly thought was going to happen? Was the son an active hunter? Did the face tattoo guy have a hunting license? Was he a competitive target shooter? What did the father think the son was going to do with the guns, especially since he had already threatened to kill his family and himself.
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: Kamaji on July 08, 2022, 10:09:58 am
When the Dad bought the kid a rifle, what could he have possibly thought was going to happen? Was the son an active hunter? Did the face tattoo guy have a hunting license? Was he a competitive target shooter? What did the father think the son was going to do with the guns, especially since he had already threatened to kill his family and himself.
Exactly.
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: Idiot on July 08, 2022, 01:52:19 pm
When the Dad bought the kid a rifle, what could he have possibly thought was going to happen? Was the son an active hunter? Did the face tattoo guy have a hunting license? Was he a competitive target shooter? What did the father think the son was going to do with the guns, especially since he had already threatened to kill his family and himself.
Yup....dad's in deep dodo. He never should have opened his mouth.
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on July 08, 2022, 03:11:34 pm
Yup....dad's in deep dodo. He never should have opened his mouth.
Why? Aren't we all glad a poor parent has been exposed?
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: Kamaji on July 08, 2022, 03:15:08 pm
Charges not ruled out for Highland Park suspect’s father
By Joshua Rhett Miller July 8, 2022
Authorities have not ruled out criminal charges against the father of alleged Highland Park gunman Robert Crimo III – as his parents retained a new attorney late Thursday.
State Police Director Brendan Kelly told reporters that the accused gunman’s father, Robert Crimo Jr., faces potential civil liability as the criminal investigation continues into the Fourth of July shooting that slaughtered seven people in the Chicago suburb.
“There’s probably going to be civil litigation. There is ongoing criminal prosecution and criminal investigation,” he said Wednesday, NBC reported.
“Issues of culpability, liability, who may have responsibility in certain circumstances, are all part and parcel of that process. Making a conclusionary statement, the Illinois State Police, weighing in on that, is not appropriate,” he said, adding that the matter would ultimately be decided in court.
Lake County State’s Attorney Eric Rinehart said he didn’t want to comment on the prospect Wednesday when asked if investigators are mulling possible criminal charges against Crimo’s family.
He had the right to remain silent, but lacked the ability.
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on July 08, 2022, 03:47:26 pm
:facepalm2:
"Therapist says people don’t become mass shooters because of mental illness. Rather, it’s the patriarchy’s fault" (Video)
Charges not ruled out for Highland Park suspect’s father
By Joshua Rhett Miller July 8, 2022
Authorities have not ruled out criminal charges against the father of alleged Highland Park gunman Robert Crimo III – as his parents retained a new attorney late Thursday.
State Police Director Brendan Kelly told reporters that the accused gunman’s father, Robert Crimo Jr., faces potential civil liability as the criminal investigation continues into the Fourth of July shooting that slaughtered seven people in the Chicago suburb.
“There’s probably going to be civil litigation. There is ongoing criminal prosecution and criminal investigation,” he said Wednesday, NBC reported.
“Issues of culpability, liability, who may have responsibility in certain circumstances, are all part and parcel of that process. Making a conclusionary statement, the Illinois State Police, weighing in on that, is not appropriate,” he said, adding that the matter would ultimately be decided in court.
Lake County State’s Attorney Eric Rinehart said he didn’t want to comment on the prospect Wednesday when asked if investigators are mulling possible criminal charges against Crimo’s family.
Why is mommy dearest left out, she went along with not pressing charges when the kid was threatening to kill his family, she knew he had guns and she knew he was a stick of dynamite with a short fuse and just sat back waiting for a tragedy to happen. As far as I'm concerned both parents are culpable.
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: Kamaji on July 08, 2022, 04:23:27 pm
Why is mommy dearest left out, she went along with not pressing charges when the kid was threatening to kill his family, she knew he had guns and she knew he was a stick of dynamite with a short fuse and just sat back waiting for a tragedy to happen. As far as I'm concerned both parents are culpable.
The article doesn't say they have ruled out either parent.
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: GtHawk on July 08, 2022, 04:37:32 pm
This guy, who no doubt is talking about mental health not being the problem when he presents himself as mentally ill? He blames the patriarchy, why because daddy didn't accept him being gay? Ooh, he's a 'therapist', what does that mean? Is he a MFT or just some low level hack that works in a rehab facility or helps alpahabetsoupers to accept their mental illness? What is is profound experience with severe mental illness? And my questions don't even take into account the fact that most MFT's and Psychologists are mentally ill to one degree or another. I was wondering how long until the same kind of 'experts' that declared Trump mentally incompetent without ever being in the same room with him would start expounding on these mass killers...on TikTok no less.
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: Hoodat on July 08, 2022, 04:46:42 pm
Why is mommy dearest left out, she went along with not pressing charges when the kid was threatening to kill his family, she knew he had guns and she knew he was a stick of dynamite with a short fuse and just sat back waiting for a tragedy to happen. As far as I'm concerned both parents are culpable.
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: mystery-ak on July 08, 2022, 05:54:31 pm
REVEALED: Highland Park shooter's mom was convicted of leaving him in hot car for 27 MINUTES when he was 2, as arrest reports reveal her attacks on his dad with shoe and screwdriver
Denise Pesina left her killer son Bobby Crimo III in a hot car for 27 minutes in 2002, arrest records showed She was convicted over the incident, and subsequently accused of domestic violence by her husband Bob Crimo Jr Pessina is said to have attacked her husband with a shoe and a screwdriver during separate incidents Crimo III faces seven charges of first-degree murder for shooting and killing seven people who attended a July 4 parade Monday
By Alex Hammer For Dailymail.Com
Published: 09:03 EDT, 8 July 2022 | Updated: 10:22 EDT, 8 July 2022
Highland Park shooter Bobby Crimo III was left in a hot car by his mom for 27 minutes as a toddler - with his mother later convicted over the incident.
The disturbing 2002 incident was one of multiple brushes with the law Crimo's mom Denise Pesina and dad Bob Crimo Jr had with cops prior to Monday's massacre in Chicago that killed seven.
It is unclear if the hot car incident left Crimo, now 21, with any physical or mental injuries that may have ultimately led to the horrific shootout.
more https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10994923/Highland-Park-shooters-parents-constantly-fighting-records-show.html
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: Kamaji on July 08, 2022, 06:02:08 pm
In retrospect, it's a shame she didn't leave him in there a little longer.
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: mountaineer on July 08, 2022, 06:14:20 pm
Who's faulting her? She was just going for a little late-term (okay, very late-term) abortion.
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: Idiot on July 08, 2022, 06:29:15 pm
Who's faulting her? She was just going for a little late-term (okay, very late-term) abortion.
Well, ok, but then she didn't finish what she started!
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on July 08, 2022, 08:51:40 pm
This has nothing to do with the crime that was committed by the killer, other than to implicate her moral character as well as the killer's
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: GtHawk on July 08, 2022, 09:34:02 pm
Not that I don't think the crazy fell far from the mommy tree, but the left is hard at it trying to make another of their brethren a victim instead of the murders POS he is.
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: berdie on July 08, 2022, 10:14:49 pm
Not that I don't think the crazy fell far from the mommy tree, but the left is hard at it trying to make another of their brethren a victim instead of the murders POS he is.
Agreed. His parents may have been pos's. His Dad may have enabled him to get weapons.
But ultimately, he was the one that used the gun.
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: mountaineer on July 08, 2022, 10:45:09 pm
Sravasti Dasgupta Thu, July 7, 2022 at 12:01 AM·2 min read
Chicago police have released a photograph of the weapon used in the Highland Park mass shooting on 4 July, where seven people were killed and dozens injured.
On Monday evening, police arrested 22-year-old Robert “Bobby” Crimo after an hours-long manhunt around the city north of Chicago.
A spokesperson for the Lake County Major Crime Task Force said the suspect used a rifle “similar to an AR-15” from atop a commercial building and fired into a crowd that had gathered for the parade in Highland Park.
On Wednesday night, the police released a photograph of the weapon, reported News Nation.
According to prosecutors, the suspect fired more than 80 rounds, reloading three times, before fleeing down a fire escape while disguised as a woman and melting into the crowd.
Authorities added that while he went down the fire escape, the weapon fell out of his bag in an alley.
The rifle was found with three 30-round high-capacity magazines and 83 spent shell casings around the scene.
Authorities initially said they had recovered a rifle from along the Fourth of July parade route, and that they were deliberately withholding further details as they hunted for the gunman.
Officials added on Wednesday that Mr Crimo had confessed to shooting at the Independence Day parade and then fled to the Madison, Wisconsin, area, where he contemplated shooting up another event.
Lake County Major Crime Task Force spokesman Christopher Covelli said Mr Crimo turned back to Illinois, where he was later arrested, after deciding he was not prepared to pull off a shooting in Wisconsin.
In court on Wednesday, an Illinois judge ordered Mr Crimo to be held without bail.
more https://news.yahoo.com/police-share-photo-highland-park-050132706.html
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: Bigun on July 08, 2022, 11:10:09 pm
It's not terribly similar to an AR-15. What is it?
Found it. https://www.mcarbo.com/kel-tec-sub-2000-vs-hi-point-carbine.aspx (https://www.mcarbo.com/kel-tec-sub-2000-vs-hi-point-carbine.aspx) (https://www.mcarbo.com/.Content%20Pages%20Images/KEL-TEC%20SUB-2000%20vs%20Hi-Point%20Carbine/kel-tec-sub-2000-gen-2-folding.jpg)
But that carbine is a 9mm, not a .223, and only available in pistol calibers from what I have found out.
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: Idiot on July 09, 2022, 12:01:33 am
Found it. https://www.mcarbo.com/kel-tec-sub-2000-vs-hi-point-carbine.aspx (https://www.mcarbo.com/kel-tec-sub-2000-vs-hi-point-carbine.aspx) (https://www.mcarbo.com/.Content%20Pages%20Images/KEL-TEC%20SUB-2000%20vs%20Hi-Point%20Carbine/kel-tec-sub-2000-gen-2-folding.jpg)
But that carbine is a 9mm, not a .223, and only available in pistol calibers from what I have found out.
Boy that's one strange looking gun.
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: mystery-ak on July 09, 2022, 12:03:48 am
That's what I thought..it folds...
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: mountaineer on July 09, 2022, 12:06:02 am
So a scary looking pistol, not an assault rifle?
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: Bigun on July 09, 2022, 12:06:48 am
One thing is for sure. That gun definitely is not is a "high powered rifle"!
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: Smokin Joe on July 09, 2022, 12:47:24 am
I disagree. While it does NOT justify his actions in any way,it goes a long ways towards explaining his obvious brain damage.
Frankly,I am wondering why she didn't go to prison for child abuse/putting her child in a position where he might die due to heat exposure and neglect.
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: Sighlass on July 09, 2022, 06:35:17 am
Kel-Tec Sub 2000 (9mm caliber carbine) Glock 43X, (9mm caliber) a Remington 700 (bolt-action rifle) and a Shotgun. No caliber mentioned for the Remington Bolt Action rifle, but as for the Shotgun I am gonna guess a 12 Gauge Pump of some flavor. No AR-15’s, No AK-47’s, No Military Assault Rifles.
Source: https://hcsblogdotorg.wordpress.com/
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: mystery-ak on July 09, 2022, 01:30:19 pm
Eight-year-old victim paralyzed from gunshot wound after Highland Park mass shooting by Jenny Goldsberry, Social Media Producer | July 08, 2022 07:04 PM
An 8-year-old boy suffered an injury that resulted in paralysis from the waist down as a result of a gunshot wound he sustained during the Highland Park, Illinois, mass shooting on the Fourth of July.
Cooper Roberts suffered a severed spinal cord when he was caught in the gunfire on Monday that killed seven people and wounded 36 others. His brother Luke and mother, Dr. Keely Roberts, were also among the injured.
"It's been a very emotional time for everybody in their circle," Roberts family spokesman Anthony Loizzi said. "And, you know, if you know Keely, she's just a fighter. It sounds like Cooper got that part of her. He's fighting as hard as he can."
Both Keely and Cooper have required several surgeries during their recovery. A GoFundMe on the Roberts family's behalf has raised over $900,000 for their medical bills. Zion Elementary School District 6 is also accepting donations, as Keely is its superintendent.
"Cooper’s medical status has been upgraded to serious, which is a very positive development. He is conscious for the first time and been removed from the ventilator, but in a great deal of pain," an update reads. "At this time, the doctors do not believe that he suffered any brain damage or cognitive impact from the shooting."
more https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/8-year-old-paralyzed-gun-shot-wound
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: 240B on July 09, 2022, 05:52:30 pm
So the father bought a semiautomatic weapon which is built to fold to be more easily concealed, and never had a second thought about why the weirdo kid would want it? I wouldn't buy one of these complete with hundreds of rounds of ammunition for my best friend or even for my own brother without a firm knowledge of why he needed it and what he was going to do with it. Why so much ammunition?
It sounds extremely strange and I can never understand it, but it seems like the father knew or should have known what was about to happen. It seems that the father was an enabler, possibly even a coconspirator in the whole thing. Why would the father have abetted and even wanted this to happen? Was it because he lost a local election? Who knows?
The father, mother, the entire family and neighbors are alive by the simple whims of chance. The shooter could have easily killed them all before heading to the parade. The father must have known he was putting himself and his family in danger. Why? Why would he do this. The father should have been the first person to keep face-tattoo boy from getting anywhere close to ANY weapon, including a knife.
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: txradioguy on July 11, 2022, 12:06:54 pm
Kel-Tec Sub 2000 (9mm caliber carbine) Glock 43X, (9mm caliber) a Remington 700 (bolt-action rifle) and a Shotgun. No caliber mentioned for the Remington Bolt Action rifle, but as for the Shotgun I am gonna guess a 12 Gauge Pump of some flavor. No AR-15’s, No AK-47’s, No Military Assault Rifles.
Source: https://hcsblogdotorg.wordpress.com/
No wonder this story has dropped from the front pages of the news.
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: DCPatriot on July 11, 2022, 12:13:37 pm
??? Might have helped, but the main reason is the political ideology of the shooter.
That too. But journalists these days are extremely lazy. They have their pre-written mass shooting stories involving the evil AR15 and all they have to do is plug in the 5 W's like a game of Mad Libs.
When they can't do that and they have to do some actual work...then they aren't as interested.
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: GtHawk on July 11, 2022, 03:51:10 pm
That's kind of what KelTec is known for, that and inexpensive guns. I think the idea is that it is more stowable for backpackers that want a carbine, lots of guns can be made foldable, including anything built on the AR platform. People see a plus in these guns because the magazines it uses are Glock so very easy to get even in the 30 round size he used.
Title: Re: Highland Park Fourth of July parade disrupted by gunfire, multiple people feared shot
Post by: GtHawk on July 11, 2022, 03:53:04 pm
1 : a short-barreled lightweight firearm originally used by cavalry. 2 : a light short-barreled repeating rifle that is used as a supplementary military arm or for hunting in dense brush.