The Briefing Room
General Category => Politics/Government => Topic started by: txradioguy on November 13, 2016, 09:21:40 pm
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Breaking now on the FNC website.
ETA:
President-elect Donald Trump will appoint Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus as his chief of staff, two sources with knowledge of the decision told Fox News Sunday.
Priebus was one of Trump’s most loyal lieutenants during the real estate mogul's up-and-down campaign that resulted in many Republicans, particularly lawmakers seeking reelection, to distance themselves from Trump.
Trump praised Preibus’ efforts in his victory speech after his upset win over Democratic rival Hillary Clinton.
Priebus was thought to be one of two finalists for the chief of staff post, along with Trump campaign CEOfficer Steve Bannon, the executive chairman of Breitbart News.
Bannon is expected to be named senior counselor to the president, the sources told Fox News.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/11/13/trump-to-name-priebus-chief-staff-bannon-senior-counselor.html
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Trump just gave the GOPe a full-body hug.
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Trump just gave the GOPe a full-body hug.
It's going to be interesting to see how this is spun.
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Does that mean he's out as head of the RNC? Or will he be like Debbie and serve in both capacities?
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Trump just gave the GOPe a full-body hug.
Exactly. I don't hold much hope from this point forward. :chairbang:
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Does that mean he's out as head of the RNC? Or will he be like Debbie and serve in both capacities?
Because nothing says "political outsider" "Drain the swamp" and "unbeholden" more than hiring the head of the RNC to lead your troops.
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Does that mean he's out as head of the RNC? Or will he be like Debbie and serve in both capacities?
Want to bet he holds on to the chairmanship? It makes sense from a business perspective - keep tight control. Doesn't mean we have to like it, but it is logical given Trump's background in business.
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Want to bet he holds on to the chairmanship? It makes sense from a business perspective - keep tight control. Doesn't mean we have to like it, but it is logical given Trump's background in business.
It makes total sense 'from a business perspective'. It is however the opposite of his promises.
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It makes total sense 'from a business perspective'. It is however the opposite of his promises.
There is that. **nononono*
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So maybe this is a good sign that Trump is draining the swamp of the establishment, right?
Oh wait, never mind...
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How very status quo. **nononono*
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So maybe this is a good sign that Trump is draining the swamp of the establishment, right?
Oh wait, never mind...
Thad Cochran, pick up the white courtesy phone.
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Well I didn't see that coming... I guess I should have...
Wow!
I'm disgusted.
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Trump just gave the GOPe a full-body hug.
Exactly what a lot of neverTrumper's said would happen.
Let's see what happens in the first 6 months after he's sworn in. I'm hoping the Pubs finally recognize that people are fed up with the "old boys network" and it's time to implement the things Trump talked about. If they don't the 2018 elections will be ugly. The swing voters who elected Trump won't have any loyalty to the Pubs.
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I saw this being contemplated and was hoping it was just rumors....not thrilled bu anxious to see how this works out...
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Well I didn't see that coming... I guess I should have...
Wow!
I'm disgusted.
Look on the bright side. The true believers are calling this a stroke of brilliance and posting Trump as Washington pics on TOS. Yea, the same true believers that have called RP the problem with the GOP for a few years now.
So everything is fine.
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I saw this being contemplated and was hoping it was just rumors....not thrilled bu anxious to see how this works out...
Probably business as usual.
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I saw this being contemplated and was hoping it was just rumors....not thrilled bu anxious to see how this works out...
You've got the guy who ensured the floor revolt against Trump was quashed...strengthened the Chairman's position in the process and has been one of the biggest GOPe roadblocks to a Conservative nominee being rewarded for his loyalty.
This doesn't bode well for anyone who doesn't support the establishment.
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RINO Nation
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You've got the guy who ensured the floor revolt against Trump was quashed...strengthened the Chairman's position in the process and has been one of the biggest GOPe roadblocks to a Conservative nominee being rewarded for his loyalty.
This doesn't bode well for anyone who doesn't support the establishment.
The establishment didn't get to become the Establiahment by not being players
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Good news bump...Preibus earned this role and Bannon works well behind the scenes.
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Drove through TOS to see how this is play in. Widely viewed as a brilliant move.
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Good news bump...Preibus earned this role and Bannon works well behind the scenes.
Shocked...shocked I tell you....
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Well at least we know how much Priebus's support cost.
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Drive through TOS to see how this is play in. Widely viewed as a brilliant move.
Of course...they aren't going to start questioning Dear Leader now.
**nononono*
I mean they've defended all of his other flip flops...why change now.
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Good news bump...Preibus earned this role and Bannon works well behind the scenes.
How, by bringing the full resource of the GOP against one of their own Senators (Ted Cruz?) By getting Thad Chochran reelected? By years of caving in to the left?
By all means. Explain to us how he, the definition of establishment insider as head of the RNC, 'earned' his role on the staff of the man campaigning on getting rid of him.
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How, by bringing the full resource of the GOP against one of their own Senators (Ted Cruz?) By getting Thad Chochran reelected? By years of caving in the left?
By all means. Explain to us how he, the definition of establishment insider as head of the RNC, 'earned' his role on the staff of the man campaigning on getting rid of him.
It would appear now that Trump really wasn't trying to get rid of any of them.
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It would appear now that Trump really wasn't trying to get rid of any of them.
Imagine that. Who could have ever guessed?
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Drove through TOS to see how this is play in. Widely viewed as a brilliant move.
I guess they haven't heard of this thing called 'Google'. You can actually pinpoint not long ago, the ones who now are saying this was 'brilliant' or 'good news' were saying then Prebius must go and all the usual establishment complaints about him.
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I do like the press release: ^-^
http://us14.campaign-archive1.com/?u=3a2a46a0ef67412eaa5d55987&id=a52fd17768&e=08dcb0b422
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How, by bringing the full resource of the GOP against one of their own Senators (Ted Cruz?) By getting Thad Chochran reelected? By years of caving in to the left?
By all means. Explain to us how he, the definition of establishment insider as head of the RNC, 'earned' his role on the staff of the man campaigning on getting rid of him.
If this is any indication, the Trumpsplaining contortions of logic will be of Olympic gymnastic quality, and performed with similar alacrity.
Hiring Prebius just indicates the GOPe and Trump were not so much on opposite sides, as was predicted long before the convention. The idea has been to shut out Constitutional Conservatives all along.
SSDD, not my party any more, but an interesting show. (Just wait until he's sworn in, then it will get really interesting!)
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“It is truly an honor to join President-elect Trump in the White House as his Chief of Staff,” Priebus stated of the annoucement. “I am very grateful to the President-elect for this opportunity to serve him and this nation as we work to create an economy that works for everyone, secure our borders, repeal and replace Obamacare and destroy radical Islamic terrorism. He will be a great President for all Americans.”
So the problem is?
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Definitely a "status quo" move, but also a smart move. Priebus demonstrated his ability to navigate very troubled waters throughout the primaries. He also has shown himself to be quite competent at managing things and avoiding disaster. When you are trying to get things done, managerial competence is one of the rarest commodities to be found in the real world. When you encounter it, you put it to good use pursuing your objectives. In that respect, Trump made the right move.
Also, Priebus is someone who is regarded by everyone as a decent guy and straight shooter. He won't attract controversy to himself the way Bannon would. I think I'd pick him myself were I Trump.
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I guess they haven't heard of this thing called 'Google'. You can actually pinpoint not long ago, the ones who now are saying this was 'brilliant' or 'good news' were saying then Prebius must go and all the usual establishment complaints about him.
You don't need google for that. I never saw anyone there ever approve of RP before Trump. Quite the opposite in fact. Long and loud.
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I guess they haven't heard of this thing called 'Google'. You can actually pinpoint not long ago, the ones who now are saying this was 'brilliant' or 'good news' were saying then Prebius must go and all the usual establishment complaints about him.
Republican National Committee chairman Reince Priebus condemned Donald Trump's sexually aggressive comments about women in a curt statement: “No woman should ever be described in these terms or talked about in this manner. Ever.”
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/reince-priebus-donald-trump-comments-women-229316
Donald Trump on Tuesday slammed Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus a "disgrace" and blasted the party's delegate system as "absolutely rigged."
"Reince Priebus should be ashamed of himself," he told The Hill in an interview. "He should be ashamed of himself because he knows what's going on.
"It's a disgrace for the party," the presidential front-runner added, though he said that he had not "given any thought" on whether to call on Priebus to step down.
http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/trump-bashes-rigged-gop/2016/04/12/id/723596/
Republican National Committee Chairman (RNC) Reince Priebus fired back at Donald Trump on Sunday, after the GOP presidential front-runner said there would be a “rough July” at the Republican convention if the RNC doesn't "straighten out" its primary system.
“The RNC doesn’t have the authority to change the rules even if we wanted to, and each candidate has to know the rules, learn the rules, and abide by the rules and ultimately the majority will decide everything in Cleveland,” Priebus said on CBS's "Face the Nation."
“I don’t take it personally ... because I kind of just rest in the truth,” Priebus said. “And, you know, it matters when something is right and something is wrong to me.”
Trump made the comments at a New York rally Saturday, saying the RNC “better get going” on making changes.
“Because I’ll tell you what: You’re going to have a rough July at that convention,” Trump said. “You better get going, and you better straighten out the system because the people want their vote, the people want to vote, and they want to be represented properly.”
Trump has ramped up his attacks against the RNC in the past week, accusing party officials of “canceling the vote” in Colorado, which had a convention to award delegates instead of a primary or caucus.
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/276602-priebus-not-taking-trump-attacks-personally
Looks like now it was all just an act.
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Of course...they aren't going to start questioning Dear Leader now.
**nononono*
I mean they've defended all of his other flip flops...why change now.
Obie's cult following has nothing on these guys...
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“It is truly an honor to join President-elect Trump in the White House as his Chief of Staff,” Priebus stated of the annoucement. “I am very grateful to the President-elect for this opportunity to serve him and this nation as we work to create an economy that works for everyone, secure our borders, repeal and replace Obamacare and destroy radical Islamic terrorism. He will be a great President for all Americans.”
So the problem is?
The problem is he said the same thing 2 years ago before giving Obama everything he wanted. So why believe him now when he has an actual record to go by?
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So the problem is?
Gee I wonder?
Donald Trump on Tuesday slammed Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus a "disgrace" and blasted the party's delegate system as "absolutely rigged."
"Reince Priebus should be ashamed of himself," he told The Hill in an interview. "He should be ashamed of himself because he knows what's going on.
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“It is truly an honor to join President-elect Trump in the White House as his Chief of Staff,” Priebus stated of the annoucement. “I am very grateful to the President-elect for this opportunity to serve him and this nation as we work to create an economy that works for everyone, secure our borders, repeal and replace Obamacare and destroy radical Islamic terrorism. He will be a great President for all Americans.”
So the problem is?
From the guy who headed the Party that was going to do all that for how long, now? Suddenly that becomes credible? Wanna buy a bridge? :silly:
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Want to bet he holds on to the chairmanship? It makes sense from a business perspective - keep tight control. Doesn't mean we have to like it, but it is logical given Trump's background in business.
Running this country as a 'business' is just another form of dictatorship.
Mussolini perfected it in the 20's.
Which is what we have warned Trump was going to do all along.
At least the trains will run on time.
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This whole election was one big reality TV show, complete with melodrama and phony scenarios. Trump has the experience in reality TV to fool people into believing he really is this conservative, Washington outsider. Now the smoke and mirrors will fade away and his fans will find out he's nothing better than any other politician. He will reward his friends, family, supporters and golfing buddies with the plumb positions without regard as to whether any of them can do the job. And Rinse, as RNC chair, will make sure the Republican-controlled congress will bow down and worship Trump and rubber stamp everything he wants, including presidential nominations and appointments.
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Reince did a pretty good job making Trump's fecal mutterings sound like velvet tones to the true believers. He's good at obfuscating, changing the subject, and blaming everybody but the culprit.
He'll have to do a lot of that going forward.
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So the problem is?
Your prince was a liar from the beginning and orchestrated a magnificent ruse and con game. And either you all participated in the lie to push the false narrative that Trump was an outsider who was going to get rid of the 'insiders' that brought us to the precipice of ruin - or you are a gullible fool.
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Your prince was a liar from the beginning and orchestrated a magnificent ruse and con game. And either you all participated in the lie to push the false narrative that Trump was an outsider who was going to get rid of the 'insiders' that brought us to the precipice of ruin - or you are a gullible fool.
So to review...
Not going to prosecute Hillary
Not going to repeal Obamacare
Appoints the ultimate GOP insider to be his CofS.
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Running this country as a 'business' is just another form of dictatorship.
Mussolini perfected it in the 20's.
Which is what we have warned Trump was going to do all along.
At least the trains will run on time.
Businesses exist to make a profit.
Government should only take in enough money to operate according to their constitutional mandates.
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The problem is he said the same thing 2 years ago before giving Obama everything he wanted. So why believe him now when he has an actual record to go by?
Not one of you NeverTrumpers has presented one objective reason why Reince Priebus as CoS was a betrayal or a poor choice. Reince is down with Trumps agenda and can help Trump get his agenda thru Congress. IMHO Reince is a good choice for CoS. Reince proved his worth in the primaries as a straight shooter whose word is good. In 4 years if you NeverTrumpers elect your guy you get a say. Until then remember you lost we won.
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Definitely a "status quo" move, but also a smart move. Priebus demonstrated his ability to navigate very troubled waters throughout the primaries. He also has shown himself to be quite competent at managing things and avoiding disaster. When you are trying to get things done, managerial competence is one of the rarest commodities to be found in the real world. When you encounter it, you put it to good use pursuing your objectives. In that respect, Trump made the right move.
Also, Priebus is someone who is regarded by everyone as a decent guy and straight shooter. He won't attract controversy to himself the way Bannon would. I think I'd pick him myself were I Trump.
Well said. goopo
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Hiring Wrench Pubic? So it looks like Donny is going to fill the swamp to capacity before he drains it so that it will look even more impressive.
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Until then remember you lost we won.
Sounds like Obama. Congratulations.
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Not one of you NeverTrumpers has presented one objective reason why Reince Priebus as CoS was a betrayal or a poor choice. Reince is down with Trumps agenda and can help Trump get his agenda thru Congress. IMHO Reince is a good choice for CoS. Reince proved his worth in the primaries as a straight shooter whose word is good. In 4 years if you NeverTrumpers elect your guy you get a say. Until then remember you lost we won.
Actually we did. And "We won" is the mantra of Obamabots. Get a new one. Unless you are the same people. Then it makes sense to use it.
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Exactly. I don't hold much hope from this point forward. :chairbang:
The beginning of the end of the GOPe version of Hope and Change....... **nononono*
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Not one of you NeverTrumpers has presented one objective reason why Reince Priebus as CoS was a betrayal or a poor choice. Reince is down with Trumps agenda and can help Trump get his agenda thru Congress. IMHO Reince is a good choice for CoS. Reince proved his worth in the primaries as a straight shooter whose word is good. In 4 years if you NeverTrumpers elect your guy you get a say. Until then remember you lost we won.
We didn't have to. We tried to warn you that Trump wasn't the ultimate outsider he claimed to be and you insisted he was.
YOU and the rest of the Trump cult here insisted he was going to DC to kick out people like Priebus.
Instead he's hiring him...making him part of his staff.
And you're making excuses.
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Sounds like Obama. Congratulations.
He was their revenge candidate. The GOP version of Obama. No resume...no principals to stand on so everything is open to negotiation.
Obama in 2008 and Trump in 2016 are exactly the same.
And once again America gets the shaft.
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We keep squabbling, but he's still going to be president.
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Sounds like Obama. Congratulations.
Of course. Remember they admitted the election was rigged. They just didn't want to admit it was rigged in their favor until they were sure they could clinch it.
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Not one of you NeverTrumpers has presented one objective reason why Reince Priebus as CoS was a betrayal or a poor choice.
Oh I don't know - Reince's amazing record of capitulation to the Democrats, Insider oligarchy power consolidations while attacking Conservatives for the past 8 years is well documented.
I think that is more than 'objective'. His fruits are more than rotten and they speak loudly.
Reince is down with Trumps agenda and can help Trump get his agenda thru Congress. IMHO Reince is a good choice for CoS.
Trump Uber Alles. Yeah, we get that is all that matters to you people.
Until then remember you lost we won.
Okay Obama.
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Sounds like Obama. Congratulations.
"We" is apparently the establishment.
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We keep squabbling, but he's still going to be president.
And he'll still be a degenerate.
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We keep squabbling, but he's still going to be president.
In Name Only.
He will act as Dictator - just as the current Heinous in the White House.
And, given his fruits - may impose a greater form of tyranny to the applause and Apologetics of the seig-heiling Trump crowds than we currently have already grown accustomed under Obama.
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We keep squabbling, but he's still going to be president.
We've learned from every Democrat President we've had before this one. We respect the office, but not the man in it.
No difference to me than Clinton or Obama.
I still respect America. I still respect the Presidency. There has been, thus far, no reason to respect Donald Trump.
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Until then remember you lost we won.
What!...WOW.....the only person who lost was Hillary....is that you Barry?
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We keep squabbling, but he's still going to be president.
I'm no prophet, but let me say this: the Lord works in mysterious ways. Don't count on him making it to office.
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Not one of you NeverTrumpers has presented one objective reason why Reince Priebus as CoS was a betrayal or a poor choice. Reince is down with Trumps agenda and can help Trump get his agenda thru Congress. IMHO Reince is a good choice for CoS. Reince proved his worth in the primaries as a straight shooter whose word is good. In 4 years if you NeverTrumpers elect your guy you get a say. Until then remember you lost we won.
@jpsb
I agree..
Folks, we have to give Trump a chance.. He is going to be our President. I want him to do well. If he does well the country does well. Please don't nitpick every move.. If he does wrong, then he should called out on it. If he made makes a right choice that he seems right then we should support him. I think this is a right choice.
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We've learned from every Democrat President we've had before this one. We respect the office, but not the man in it.
No difference to me than Clinton or Obama.
I still respect America. I still respect the Presidency. There has been, thus far, no reason to respect Donald Trump.
Trump has been a celebrity lowlife for more than 30 years. He's had more than enough chances to be a decent human being so I won't be expecting it to happen
I respect the office but I do not have much respect for the true believers who helped put him there.
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@jpsb
I agree..
Folks, we have to give Trump a chance.. He is going to be our President. I want him to do well. If he does well the country does well. Please don't nitpick every move.. If he does wrong, then he should called out on it. If he made makes a right choice that he seems right then we should support him. I think this is a right choice.
I am going to give him a chance. But this was a bad choice. Opinions vary. Records do not.
Nor will I sit silently when he makes a bad choice. His chance is his to make the best of.
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@jpsb
I agree..
Folks, we have to give Trump a chance.. He is going to be our President. I want him to do well. If he does well the country does well. Please don't nitpick every move.. If he does wrong, then he should called out on it. If he made makes a right choice that he seems right then we should support him. I think this is a right choice.
I agree..this is only his first pick with many more to come. I do not know the reasoning behind it and can only guess which I am not going to do.
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Not one of you NeverTrumpers has presented one objective reason why Reince Priebus as CoS was a betrayal or a poor choice. Reince is down with Trumps agenda and can help Trump get his agenda thru Congress. IMHO Reince is a good choice for CoS. Reince proved his worth in the primaries as a straight shooter whose word is good. In 4 years if you NeverTrumpers elect your guy you get a say. Until then remember you lost we won.
Right... The guy who ran on draining the swamp hires the top swamp master as his chief of staff... Absolutely no contradictions in your mind... That explains a lot...
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Right... The guy who ran on draining the swamp hires the top swamp master as his chief of staff... Absolutely no contradictions in your mind... That explains a lot...
Should have just voted for Jeb. At least they wouldn't have to lie to themselves so obviously now.
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I agree, Kevin. Do we hope for the best for this country, or not? I saw more optimism after that commie Obama's election than I'm seeing from some folks here. Reminder: Mike Pence will be VP for a guy who probably isn't interested in the actual job of being president. :pondering:
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What!...WOW.....the only person who lost was Hillary....is that you Barry?
He can't give up on his false accusation that anyone here supported Hillary.
We ALL opposed Hillary, so we ALL won on Tuesday.
When we LOST was at the Republican Convention.
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I am going to give him a chance. But this was a bad choice. Opinions vary. Records do not.
Nor will I sit silently when he makes a bad choice. His chance is his to make the best of.
Well said....I am willing to give him a chance....when he is sworn in and is the POTUS making decisions I don't like that's a whole different ball game....the same I would be with any politician or President.....but right now I am not nitpicking his staff choices.
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I agree, Kevin. Do we hope for the best for this country, or not? I saw more optimism after that commie Obama's election than I'm seeing from some folks here. Reminder: Mike Pence will be VP for a guy who probably isn't interested in the actual job of being president. :pondering:
Actually, the only hope I still have........
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Trump has been a celebrity lowlife for more than 30 years. He's had more than enough chances to be a decent human being so I won't be expecting it to happen
I respect the office but I do not have much respect for the true believers who helped put him there.
Nor I.
The idea that he's going to transform into a decent person at this stage of his life is unlikely.
It is possible, of course, but what's going to make him change? He thinks he's a winner, even though he's a degenerate.
Not much hope here......
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I agree..this is only his first pick with many more to come. I do not know the reasoning behind it and can only guess which I am not going to do.
How about the fact that Priebus wouldn't approve of the coup attempt by the rank and file of the RNC, trying to change rules pre-convention to steal the nomination from him?
Trump rewards loyalty.
Right about now, Chris Christie wishes he didn't pick up his skirt and run away, screaming.
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Well said....I am willing to give him a chance....when he is sworn in and is the POTUS making decisions I don't like that's a whole different ball game....the same I would be with any politician or President.....but right now I am not nitpicking his staff choices.
I dont plan on nitpicking either. This was a nuclear detonation of RINO/establishmentism. I'm just calling it what it is. There is nothing to nit or pick. It's bad all around. Hopefully he chooses better in the future.
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Folks, we have to give Trump a chance.. He is going to be our President.
Trump will be 'my' president about as much as Obama was 'my' president.
As to giving Trump a chance - I recall the demands from so many people that we had to give ObamaCare a chance to succeed - even when we warned them what was going to happen.
I'm not that naïve.
I want him to do well. If he does well the country does well.
What we want and what actually happens are nearly always two different things. I have not heard much from Trump that would cause me to believe the country will do well under his tenure. That view is not going to change just because he is sworn into office.
Please don't nitpick every move.
If liberty were not so fragile, we could afford to do that.
Right now, we cannot afford to do so.
Why do so many people demand we look away from the threats to liberty in the name of 'getting along'???? This is how you invite calamity to be sown in your name from among you.
If he does wrong, then he should called out on it. If he made makes a right choice that he seems right then we should support him. I think this is a right choice.
I disagree. I think this 'choice' proves that the narrative that Trump was some kind of outsider and was going to 'drain the swamp' of all the "insiders" was a total con game and bullshit.
Trump rewards and makes one of the key architects of the Establishment's war on Conservatives his COS?????
Well, given the fruits - I expect that war is about to get ratcheted up into a whole new level, to cheers and applause of both Leftists and Republicans.
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How about the fact that Priebus wouldn't approve of the coup attempt by the rank and file of the RNC, trying to change rules pre-convention to steal the nomination from him?
Trump rewards loyalty.
Right about now, Chris Christie wishes he didn't pick up his skirt and run away, screaming.
How about RP changing the rules whenever it suited him in the past that led to stripping conservatives in the party of their power? That matter at all to you? Or just when it benefits what you want?
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By all means. Explain to us how he, the definition of establishment insider as head of the RNC, 'earned' his role on the staff of the man campaigning on getting rid of him.
By helping get him elected obviously...and giving the #nevertrumps a stiff arm while doing so. :laugh:
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How about RP changing the rules whenever it suited him in the past that led to stripping conservatives in the party of their power? That matter at all to you? Or just when it benefits what you want?
LOL! The results of this election prove beyond a shadow of any doubt that Conservatives needed to be stripped of any power.
Try to keep up, Normie!
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How about RP changing the rules whenever it suited him in the past that led to stripping conservatives in the party of their power? That matter at all to you? Or just when it benefits what you want?
You are supposed to forget that he did that now that he has been made Trump's COS.
We're all supposed to give them a chance now Norm.
Just like ObamaCare.
Give it a chance.
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By helping get him elected obviously...and giving the #nevertrumps a stiff arm while doing so. :laugh:
So all Trumps BS was just BS? Can't have it both ways.
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We keep squabbling, but he's still going to be president.
So we will keep squabbling.......
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So to review...
Not going to prosecute Hillary
Not going to repeal Obamacare
Appoints the ultimate GOP insider to be his CofS.
Or...and this is the ACTUAL reality....
Will leave prosecution and evidence gathering where it belongs...law enforcement (FBI).
Will repeal Obamacare...and replace it. As was always the GOP plan/intention, some items that are in Obamacare will also be in the new Republican Health Care plan.
Appointed as Chief of Staff, someone who has good ties throughout the party and can ensure that Trump is able to get things done by getting congressional GOP'rs on board and voting with him...a necessity if one wants to get ANYTHING done. You cannot drain the swamp without managerial and congressional support...Priebus makes that to happen.
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You are supposed to forget that he did that now that he has been made Trump's COS.
We're all supposed to give them a chance now Norm.
Just like ObamaCare.
Give it a chance.
I'll give it a chance. His chance is to govern conservatively. When he appoints RINOS and renegs on his word, which I expect in most if not all cases, I'll bitch about it. So effectively his chance is the same one barry got from me. And I expect the same outcome.
"They won". And all that implies.
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LOL! The results of this election prove beyond a shadow of any doubt that Conservatives needed to be stripped of any power.
Try to keep up, Normie!
It's always good when you admit outright to not only not being conservative, but to hating conservatives and conservatism......
When RP stripped conservatives of any influence in the Republican Party, he destroyed it. Without the Conservative arm of the Republican party, it will shrivel up and die, because it stands for NOTHING.
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By helping get him elected obviously...and giving the #nevertrumps a stiff arm while doing so. :laugh:
Yes, disenfranchising the majority of his own party's primary voters, who still, like Pavlov's dog, ran back come the time of the general. Sad!
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If you all hate Reince who exactly did you want to see as COS?
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LOL! The results of this election prove beyond a shadow of any doubt that Conservatives needed to be stripped of any power.
Try to keep up, Normie!
Of course they did. Thanks for admitting that.
Leftism populism is now "in." Enjoy defending Trump teaming up with Democrats to pass his stimulus, his tariffs, and his overturning of the Sequester.
I noticed when I was walking my dogs this morning that, since Tuesday, money has started growing on trees.
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The results of this election prove beyond a shadow of any doubt that Conservatives needed to be stripped of any power.
And just why do you believe that this country deserves to be further driven toward leftism, and why are you on a conservative board trolling people? That's just sick.
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Everybody's focused on Priebus; nobody's saying anything about a gutter rat assuming the position of Chief Strategist.
Steve Bannon took a conservative website and made it into a cesspool of lies and a haven for racists, but he'll be a positive for the White House.
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If you all hate Reince who exactly did you want to see as COS?
Someone, anyone, not actually in the party structure.
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Everybody's focused on Priebus; nobody's saying anything about a gutter rat assuming the position of Chief Strategist.
Steve Bannon took a conservative website and made it into a cesspool of lies and a haven for racists, but he'll be a positive for the White House.
Oh, I noticed that in another thread.
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If you all hate Reince who exactly did you want to see as COS?
Anyone that would fulfill his promise of ending business as usual. I have an incredibly hard time accepting that the head of the establishment, of ALL PEOPLE, is the man needed to break up the establishment.
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It's always good when you admit outright to not only not being conservative, but to hating conservatives and conservatism......
It's just one more reason and example why it is absolutely necessary to dump any support for the GOP and get a Conservative party going locally.
It may take time, but this has the hallmark of a total consolidation of the Establishment Oligarchy and making the Uniparty a real Beast.
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It's always good when you admit outright to not only not being conservative, but to hating conservatives and conservatism......
When RP stripped conservatives of any influence in the Republican Party, he destroyed it. Without the Conservative arm of the Republican party, it will shrivel up and die, because it stands for NOTHING.
Awww shut up! **nononono*
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If you all hate Reince who exactly did you want to see as COS?
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And just why do you believe that this country deserves to be further driven toward leftism, and why are you on a conservative board trolling people? That's just sick.
It's what some of us said all along. They hate conservatism. And there it is in black and white.
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And just why do you believe that this country deserves to be further driven toward leftism, and why are you on a conservative board trolling people? That's just sick.
There are no principles any longer, myrle.
Just Trump. If Trump wants it, it's gotta be good.
And with Steve Bannon at his side, Trump will team up with every goombah thug in the world.
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Awww shut up! **nononono*
No.
YOU said RP was a grand guy because he squelched conservatives.
I'm not going to let that kind of liberalism pass without a comment.
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So all Trumps BS was just BS? Can't have it both ways.
No idea what you're talking about here, don't really care either. :shrug:
Dogs bark and the caravan moves on...
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Of course they did. Thanks for admitting that.
Leftism populism is now "in." Enjoy defending Trump teaming up with Democrats to pass his stimulus, his tariffs, and his overturning of the Sequester.
I noticed when I was walking my dogs this morning that, since Tuesday, money has started growing on trees.
If a SOCON would have been #1 on the ticket, you'd be looking at Madam President-elect Clinton right now.
You have to win elections to change things, buddy!
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If you all hate Reince who exactly did you want to see as COS?
Rinse is the guy who gave us McCain and Romney as nominees - and then worked with Boehner and McConnell to change the rules to lock out the grassroots and marginalize Conservatives to nothing but battered wives to a serial adulterer.
Rinse is the reason the GOP is smooth like a Ken Doll and spent it's 2014 Capital on going to war on Conservatives rather than Obama.
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Looks like the swamp won't get drained.
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No idea what you're talking about here, don't really care either. :shrug:
Dogs bark and the caravan moves on...
That you do.
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And just why do you believe that this country deserves to be further driven toward leftism, and why are you on a conservative board trolling people? That's just sick.
I think DC wants you to "shut up" jmyrle.
He doesn't like the truth of what he just said to be repeated.
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If a SOCON would have been #1 on the ticket, you'd be looking at Madam President-elect Clinton right now.
You have to win elections to change things, buddy!
The Peter Principle isn't change for the better.
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Awww shut up! **nononono*
You are aware (probably not) that it was reluctant Conservatives that drug Donny's lazy ass over the finish line so he could have one of the most unremarkable wins in history.
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We keep squabbling, but he's still going to be president.
That may be so. I'm still going to work to peel back the layers of lies in this onion .
No thanks needed. Hey, I'd do the same for any President.
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Without the Conservative arm of the Republican party, it will shrivel up and die, because it stands for NOTHING.
News flash, the new GOP won the election. The new GOP now controls the House the Senate and the White House. And by the way the new GOP is a conservative GOP. Neocon Bushbots can go back to the Rat party where they belong. Secure the border, enforce the law, strong military, trade deals that work for Americans, pro-life conservative judges, what is not to like?
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No.
YOU said RP was a grand guy because he squelched conservatives.
I'm not going to let that kind of liberalism pass without a comment.
I said nothing of the sort.
I said he proved he was loyal to Trump against the tide of the GOPe trying to steal what was rightfully his...as earned in the voting booth.
It's not liberalism. It's doing WTF needs to be done to.......get ready for it........WIN!!!
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Looks like the swamp won't get drained.
Trump is gonna build a dam so it can be deeper.
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If a SOCON would have been #1 on the ticket, you'd be looking at Madam President-elect Clinton right now.
You have to win elections to change things, buddy!
Apparently, YOU have to win elections, by any means necessary.
I'll keep my dignity and principles, thank you.
I just wanted a conservative committed to conservative principles.
But, silly me, we're all supposed to be leftists now.
I can't wait to see how you'll react, DC when the subsidies for green jobs gets replaced by subsidies for brown jobs.
You just want a movement that'll milk from the other side of the udder.
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I said nothing of the sort.
I said he proved he was loyal to Trump against the tide of the GOPe trying to steal what was rightfully his...as earned in the voting booth.
It's not liberalism. It's doing WTF needs to be done to.......get ready for it........WIN!!!
LOL! The results of this election prove beyond a shadow of any doubt that Conservatives needed to be stripped of any power.
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Apparently, YOU have to win elections, by any means necessary.
I'll keep my dignity and principles, thank you.
I just wanted a conservative committed to conservative principles.
But, silly me, we're all supposed to be leftists now.
I can't wait to see how you'll react, DC when the subsidies for green jobs gets replaced by subsidies for brown jobs.
You just want a movement that'll milk from the other side of the udder.
Buddy....I don't give a flying fig about any of that nonsense.
The ONLY thing I want is every stinking memory of the Kenyan erased....and not seeing it doubled down with Clinton.
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You are aware (probably not) that it was reluctant Conservatives that drug Donny's lazy ass over the finish line so he could have one of the most unremarkable wins in history.
I was one of those conservatives..
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I said nothing of the sort.
I said he proved he was loyal to Trump against the tide of the GOPe trying to steal what was rightfully his...as earned in the voting booth.
It's not liberalism. It's doing WTF needs to be done to.......get ready for it........WIN!!!
Because, in Trump's America, loyalty to Dear Leader is all that matters.
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"We" is apparently the establishment.
Early on, they said they could 'deal' with Trump, but not that other fellow...
This has been pointed out to the point it's weary.
The rebuttal was that Trump was "the only outsider".
Apparently they took door Number 2.
Some "outsider"--and here we were told he was the "only one".
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I said nothing of the sort.
I said he proved he was loyal to Trump against the tide of the GOPe trying to steal what was rightfully his...as earned in the voting booth.
It's not liberalism. It's doing WTF needs to be done to.......get ready for it........WIN!!!
Au contraire, DC...... You said everything 'of the sort.' And I quote....
The results of this election prove beyond a shadow of any doubt that Conservatives needed to be stripped of any power.
THIS was in response to Norm's saying that RP changed the rules to strip Conservatives of power.
You cheered RP on for destroying the Conservative wing of the Party........... you know, the part of the Party that still believed in the platform??
Ergo, I am correct in assessing exactly what you were doing here.
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Because, in Trump's America, loyalty to Dear Leader is all that matters.
No matter how far left he goes.
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You are aware (probably not) that it was reluctant Conservatives that drug Donny's lazy ass over the finish line so he could have one of the most unremarkable wins in history.
YOU claim they were "reluctant", @Frank Cannon
IMO, you error in assigning the same political POV as the NeverTrump contingent.
Or...are you now claiming that the 83% of Christians voted for him "reluctantly"? :laugh:
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In Name Only.
He will act as Dictator - just as the current Heinous in the White House.
And, given his fruits - may impose a greater form of tyranny to the applause and Apologetics of the seig-heiling Trump crowds than we currently have already grown accustomed under Obama.
Hayfoot, strawfoot, down the totalitarian highway to the shining city on the hill...
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If you all hate Reince who exactly did you want to see as COS?
Nothing Trump does will ever be good enough for the vicious NeverTrumpers. Pay them no mind, they have made themselves about as relevant as a crying 2 year old.
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I have a somewhat unorthodox opinion on this. Trump just created a vacancy on RNC. It will be interesting to see what influence he has on selection of the new Chairman. No, I don't think Priebus will try to stay in both seats.
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Buddy....I don't give a flying fig about any of that nonsense.
The ONLY thing I want is every stinking memory of the Kenyan erased....and not seeing it doubled down with Clinton.
Looks like Obamacare's going to be tweaked, not repealed and replaced.
Bummer, huh?
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Trump is gonna build a dam so it can be deeper.
Turning a swamp into a lake? I love it. Thinking outside the box, way to go Trump!
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I was one of those conservatives..
So was I....but without us this would have turned out differently. Some of these states he won in was by narrow margins.
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Hayfoot, strawfoot, down the totalitarian highway to the shining city on the hill...
Trump will be pimping gun control and his toadies will be here creating justifications for it.
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YOU claim they were "reluctant", @Frank Cannon
IMO, you error in assigning the same political POV as the NeverTrump contingent.
Or...are you now claiming that the 83% of Christians voted for him "reluctantly"? :laugh:
A very, very large contingent of (educated) Christians did so with great reluctance.......... some praying for forgiveness after doing so because they were going against their God-given consciences.
A lot of the rest of us couldn't.
Others were sheep, following charlatans like Falwell, or were completely ignorant as to how corrupt and degenerate Donald Trump really is.
In any case, the Evangelical movement has chosen political power over values, and will pay for it.
The salt has lost its savor.
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I have a somewhat unorthodox opinion on this. Trump just created a vacancy on RNC. It will be interesting to see what influence he has on selection of the new Chairman. No, I don't think Priebus will try to stay in both seats.
Maybe Ivanka or Trump, Jr. - gotta be a sycophant who will wear the kneepads
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Some need to pick their battles. I'm not all that concerned who he picks for his COS. That's minor. Not everything Trump does or will do is wrong
His spending wishes and his march to grow the size and scope of the government, however, will have ramifications for generations and should be fiercely opposed by conservatives
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Looks like Obamacare's going to be tweaked, not repealed and replaced.
Bummer, huh?
And now they can call it Trumpcare.
It's what he's always believed in anyway. Why did anyone think he'd actually move to repeal what he government health care when that's what he thinks we should suffer under?
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Or...are you now claiming that the 83% of Christians voted for him "reluctantly"?
Either that or "delusionally."
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I was one of those conservatives..
:bighug:
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You are aware (probably not) that it was reluctant Conservatives that drug Donny's lazy ass over the finish line so he could have one of the most unremarkable wins in history.
You mean like W's two victories?
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If you all hate Reince who exactly did you want to see as COS?
How about Kelleyanne Conway?
Knows her way around politics, is an outsider, is loyal to Trump and HE LISTENS TO HER.
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A very, very large contingent of (educated) Christians did so with great reluctance.......... some praying for forgiveness after doing so because they were going against their God-given consciences.
Hyperbole aside, how do you know --- "educated Christians" (which I presume is the preferred, higher class Christian) --- voted for Trump with great reluctance --- praying for forgiveness all the way?
How do you presume to know this?
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YOU claim they were "reluctant", @Frank Cannon
IMO, you error in assigning the same political POV as the NeverTrump contingent.
Or...are you now claiming that the 83% of Christians voted for him "reluctantly"? :laugh:
Well since you outed yourself as a Lib, . Donny won the states that got him over the hump by very narrow margins. They just called MI for him yesterday it was so close. It was also shown that a large number of his voters were like me and disliked him, but thought Hitlary should be in jail. That isn't exactly a solid endorsement for the guy. It is also now apparent that he didn't win by bringing new voters into the system. He won because her base didn't show up.
You had to know I would see that....
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Turning a swamp into a lake? I love it. Thinking outside the box, way to go Trump!
Nah. Just keeping the water level above the dirt.
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That you do.
Sure you want to go *there* Norma?
Doesn't look like you're holding too many cards in this political Game of Thrones.
More like .34% of one. :laugh:
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You mean like W's two victories?
Few conservatives had to hold their ballot like a dirty diaper when voting for W.
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How about Kelleyanne Conway?
Knows her way around politics, is an outsider, is loyal to Trump and HE LISTENS TO HER.
She's staying on his team, but she doesn't know the Congressional players. And this is one of the prerequisites for the job.
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Some need to pick their battles. I'm not all that concerned who he picks for his COS. That's minor.
His spending wishes and his march to grow the size and scope of the government will have ramifications for generations
I agree..I am more concerned about his Cabinet and SCOTUS picks
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Hyperbole aside, how do you know --- "educated Christians" (which I presume is the preferred, higher class Christian) --- voted for Trump with great reluctance --- praying for forgiveness all the way?
How do you presume to know this?
She was hoping.........
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She's staying on his team, but she doesn't know the Congressional players. And this is one of the prerequisites for the job.
LOL. Give me a break. She has been involved in DC politics for the last 30 years. She knows the players.
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I was one of those conservatives..
Thank you for your vote @mystery-ak
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Sure you want to go *there* Norma?
Doesn't look like you're holding too many cards in this political Game of Thrones.
More like .34% of one. :laugh:
I'm holding -all- the cards Buckwheat. Your guy has to govern. And IF he governs like a liberal then it's all on you. I did my part to elect a more conservative option. You are left with either siding with America in trying to get him to do the constitutional governance thing or saying something openly liberal like "LOL! The results of this election prove beyond a shadow of any doubt that Conservatives needed to be stripped of any power."
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LOL. Give me a break. She has been involved in DC politics for the last 30 years. She knows the players.
Maybe from 20,000 feet ... but that's not good enough for the position. Hands-on and personal experience with the Congressional team is needed .. IMO.
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I agree..I am more concerned about his Cabinet and SCOTUS picks
A COS has influence on who they will be. Perhaps the most influence. Some here forget that.
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Well since you outed yourself as a Lib, . Donny won the states that got him over the hump by very narrow margins. They just called MI for him yesterday it was so close. It was also shown that a large number of his voters were like me and disliked him, but thought Hitlary should be in jail. That isn't exactly a solid endorsement for the guy. It is also now apparent that he didn't win by bringing new voters into the system. He won because her base didn't show up.
You had to know I would see that....
I predict Hillary won't serve a day behind bars, and won't lose a dime in fines.
Nothing will happen to her, whether Obama pardons her or not. Just watch.
Rinsed Prius just got the key to the clubhouse (and here people thought he was already "Country Club") and Conservatives will be fought tooth and nail by the GOP.
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Few conservatives had to hold their ballot like a dirty diaper when voting for W.
I did, I had to hold my nose big time to vote W, I only did it because of Gore and then Kerry. W sucked, worst president ever until Zero came along. Jimmy set the bar low, W went under it. Zero is W legacy. I'd tell you what I really think of W but I don't want to do a time out.
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Maybe Ivanka or Trump, Jr. - gotta be a sycophant who will wear the kneepads
@geronl Ummmm. No. I don't think so. He needs an Operator there.
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Here's how Newt thinks the power-order shakes out:
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The Bannon-priebus team is a tremendous choice by President elect Trump. Bannon for key strategies,priebus for daily management. great team
Ignore the skunk at your peril.
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A COS has influence on who they will be. Perhaps the most influence. Some here forget that.
I know it's an important job....I am hoping Pence's influence comes into play on those picks
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I did, I had to hold my nose big time to vote W, I only did it because of Gore and then Kerry. W sucked, worst president ever until Zero came along. Jimmy set the bar low, W went under it. Zero is W legacy. I'd tell you what I really think of W but I don't want to do a time out.
I rest my case.
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I know it's an important job....I am hoping Pence's influence comes into play on those picks
As do I. But his record is what it is. RP was the guy pushing for reaches across the aisle before. It's likely more of that is coming. We have no factual basis to think otherwise.
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I know it's an important job....I am hoping Pence's influence comes into play on those picks
Bannon will pick the SC justices. He will direct everything. Reince is there to carry out Bannon's orders.
Trump doesn't give a damn about Reince Priebus. But he and Bannon are copasetic. That's why Trump never slammed the alt-right.
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Maybe from 20,000 feet ... but that's not good enough for the position. Hands-on and personal experience with the Congressional team is needed .. IMO.
CoS needs to be a workaholic, it is a 24/7 down in the weeds job. Very few would want or could do the job. Trump knows what he is doing.
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I know it's an important job....I am hoping Pence's influence comes into play on those picks
I think his influence will be very helpful (it certainly was during the campaign). But I also think his knowledge of what makes the players tick is equally important, and he brings that to the table too.
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A COS has influence on who they will be. Perhaps the most influence. Some here forget that.
Bull CoS is logistics.
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I"m not going to criticize his choice for Chief of Staff. Priebus? Fine with me.
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Bull CoS is logistics.
Jesus...
COS = CHIEF OF STAFF. Maybe in your desire to find no fault with anything, you missed that he's the guy that is responsible for staff. AKA Don's picks/nominations. Thus the 'Chief' part of 'Chief of Staff. You don't get to rewrite reality. He's the go between. And he ain't gonna staff people he opposes or that arent lockstep with the Trump agenda. Whether or how far off constitutionalism parts of it may be.
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CoS needs to be a workaholic, it is a 24/7 down in the weeds job. Very few would want or could do the job. Trump knows what he is doing.
Good points, all.
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I"m not going to criticize his choice for Chief of Staff. Priebus? Fine with me.
You be loving that alt/right guy too. The val-jar of the administration. The king of dirty tricks?
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You be loving that alt/right guy too. The val-jar of the administration. The king of dirty tricks?
Let's just see how much Stombartism works its way into policy.
Priebus is the shiny object. Bannon is the power.
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You be loving that alt/right guy too. The val-jar of the administration. The king of dirty tricks?
Project much? :laugh:
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Some need to pick their battles. I'm not all that concerned who he picks for his COS. That's minor. Not everything Trump does or will do is wrong
His spending wishes and his march to grow the size and scope of the government, however, will have ramifications for generations and should be fiercely opposed by conservatives
If you don't pick people who have those same goals you don't achieve those goals.
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And by the way the new GOP is a conservative GOP.
And the Pope is Jewish too.
How stupid do you take us for?
Your neoFascist GOP is just another arm of big Government statism oligarchy.
You're just gonna put Trump's name on it and call NYC Liberalism "Conservatism" as we are already watching happen.
Because you know - punishing corporations if they do not "make their damn stuff here" is such a "Conservative" principle.
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Rinsed Prius just got the key to the clubhouse (and here people thought he was already "Country Club") and Conservatives will be fought tooth and nail by the GOP.
Conservatives as were once defined by Reagan - are going to be made extinct.
That is the goal of both the GOP and the Democrats and the new NeoFascist Populist Nationalism masquerading as 'True Conservatism' out there right now.
The bloodthirsty desire for vengeance still being called for by the 'gracious winners'.
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Conservatives as were once defined by Reagan - are going to be made extinct.
That is the goal of both the GOP and the Democrats and the new NeoFascist Populist Nationalism masquerading as 'True Conservatism' out there right now.
The bloodthirsty desire for vengeance still being called for by the 'gracious winners'.
Even if they follow up on their hunting us down with dogs threats, they can't kill the idea. And that knowledge infuriates them.
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You be loving that alt/right guy too. The val-jar of the administration. The king of dirty tricks?
Well, I don't think I said that...
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Even if they follow up on their hunting us down with dogs threats, they can't kill the idea. And that knowledge infuriates them.
They are already chiding and cheering the fact that Reagan Conservatives who will not fall in line behind Trump are going to be "forevermore in the political wilderness".
The parallels to the Squadristi in the 20's is beyond scary.
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Look on the bright side. The true believers are calling this a stroke of brilliance and posting Trump as Washington pics on TOS. Yea, the same true believers that have called RP the problem with the GOP for a few years now.
So everything is fine.
@Norm Lenhart
TOS thinks it's a fine decision because Priebus showed such "loyalty" to Trump.
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Even if they follow up on their hunting us down with dogs threats, they can't kill the idea. And that knowledge infuriates them.
Not nearly as much as the knowledge that we're out here spreading that idea further.
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They are already chiding and cheering the fact that Reagan Conservatives who will not fall in line behind Trump are going to be "forevermore in the political wilderness".
The parallels to the Squadristi in the 20's is beyond scary.
History always repeats. They can deny it all they like. Hopefully in the future, our descendants can rebuild.
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Not nearly as much as the knowledge that we're out here spreading that idea further.
Thus their oft stated desire for dogs, revenge and trials for treason.
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Maybe from 20,000 feet ... but that's not good enough for the position. Hands-on and personal experience with the Congressional team is needed .. IMO.
Donald Regan came from Merrill Lynch. Ken Duberstein was running an economic think tank. Erskine Bowles was an investment banker.....and you are telling me a political pollster in GOP party politics for 30 years isn't going to cut it? Absurd.
On top of that the job is to run the WH staff and setting appointments, not outreach to congress. That is the Presidents job.
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Jesus...
COS = CHIEF OF STAFF. Maybe in your desire to find no fault with anything, you missed that he's the guy that is responsible for staff. AKA Don's picks/nominations. Thus the 'Chief' part of 'Chief of Staff. You don't get to rewrite reality. He's the go between. And he ain't gonna staff people he opposes or that arent lockstep with the Trump agenda. Whether or how far off constitutionalism parts of it may be.
Well since you call me names all the time, I will risk a timeout by telling you, you are an idiot. Do you know what the staff does? LOGISTICS fool! Try reading up on stuff before making a fool of yourself. Trump's picks and nominations for important positions will be made by Trump.
CoS helps implements policy formulated by the president and his top advisors. CoS does not formulate policy.
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Well since you call me names all the time, I will risk a timeout by telling you, you are an idiot. Do you know what the staff does? LOGISTICS fool! Try reading up on stuff before making a fool of yourself. Trump's picks and nominations for important positions will be made by Trump.
CoS helps implements policy formulated by the president and his top advisors. CoS does not formulate policy.
Call me whatever makes you feel better. Makes no difference to me.
You go right on believing the COS is a glorified secretary with no influence on policy or selections and no interaction with Congress. I'll let history prove you the idiot.
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Well, I don't think I said that...
Welcome to the club...
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Welcome to the club...
LOL! The results of this election prove beyond a shadow of any doubt that Conservatives needed to be stripped of any power.
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Donald Regan came from Merrill Lynch. Ken Duberstein was running an economic think tank. Erskine Bowles was an investment banker.....and you are telling me a political pollster in GOP party politics for 30 years isn't going to cut it? Absurd.
On top of that the job is to run the WH staff and setting appointments, not outreach to congress. That is the Presidents job.
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Not nearly as much as the knowledge that we're out here spreading that idea further.
You and yours are totally irrelevant. The biggest losers in this election are the NeverTrumpers. No one wants you, no one listens to you, no one gives a damn about you. You are a tiny tiny group of sore losers that does nothing but whine like a teenage girl stood up on prom night. Get over it, you lost.
Comment from Mod - Your small, petty, and tiresome insult is going to end. One way or another.
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Welcome to the club...
Hell, let's clang some glasses. :beer:
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You and yours are totally irrelevant. The biggest losers in this election are the NeverTrumpers. No one wants you, no one listens to you, no one gives a damn about you. You are a tiny tiny group of sore losers that does nothing but whine like a teenage girl stood up on prom night. Get over it, you lost.
Nope. Suffer with us. We arent going anywhere. If Trump keeps his word/s, we have no problem. If he's the conservative you say he is, we have no problem.
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Call me whatever makes you feel better. Makes no difference to me.
You go right on believing the COS is a glorified secretary with no influence on policy or selections and no interaction with Congress. I'll let history prove you the idiot.
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The White House chief of staff is the highest ranking employee of the White House. The position is a modern successor to the earlier role of the president's private secretary. The role was formalized as the assistant to the president in 1946 and acquired its current name in 1961.
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LOL! The results of this election prove beyond a shadow of any doubt that Conservatives needed to be stripped of any power.
I completely stand by that remark. (And those here who know me, know I meant "SOCONS")
Trump has the unique opportunity to reshape the entire Republican Party. In fact, the entire American political landscape for generations.
And if the 'new' Republican Party becomes the home for millions of new cross-overs...Trump has done his job.
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The White House chief of staff is the highest ranking employee of the White House. The position is a modern successor to the earlier role of the president's private secretary. The role was formalized as the assistant to the president in 1946 and acquired its current name in 1961.
Thank you for proving my point perfectly.
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Hell, let's clang some glasses. :beer:
:beer: :laugh:
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You and yours are totally irrelevant. The biggest losers in this election are the NeverTrumpers. No one wants you, no one listens to you, no one gives a damn about you. You are a tiny tiny group of sore losers that does nothing but whine like a teenage girl stood up on prom night. Get over it, you lost.
Okay Obama.
You and your Prince-elect will be known now as The Wons you have been waiting for.
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I completely stand by that remark. (And those here who know me, know I meant "SOCONS")
Trump has the unique opportunity to reshape the entire Republican Party. In fact, the entire American political landscape for generations.
And if the 'new' Republican Party becomes the home for millions of new cross-overs...Trump has done his job.
And your remark is completely liberal. Not like you ever hid your hate of Socons or any other conservatives.
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You and yours are totally irrelevant. The biggest losers in this election are the NeverTrumpers. No one wants you, no one listens to you, no one gives a damn about you. You are a tiny tiny group of sore losers that does nothing but whine like a teenage girl stood up on prom night. Get over it, you lost.
Lol... They hypocrisy escapes you... Want to see sore, go look in the mirror... And you say "no one listens to you, no one gives a damn about you" yet you obviously do...
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And your remark is completely liberal. Not like you ever hid your hate of Socons or any other conservatives.
Uh-huh.....whatever you say, slick. :whistle:
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Lol... They hypocrisy escapes you... Want to see sore, go look in the mirror... And you say "no one listens to you, no one gives a damn about you" yet you obviously do...
Liberals cannot deal with dissent from dogma. Regardless of what they call themselves. Actions define.
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Uh-huh.....whatever you say, slick. :whistle:
You said it. Don't blame me for your comments.
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You and yours are totally irrelevant. The biggest losers in this election are the NeverTrumpers. No one wants you, no one listens to you, no one gives a damn about you. You are a tiny tiny group of sore losers that does nothing but whine like a teenage girl stood up on prom night. Get over it, you lost.
You know this sounds an awful lot like obama when the Pubs met with him to discuss problems with obamacare. Obama told them "I won, you lost, get over it". All the liberals loved it at the time. Now 8 years later everything obama did will be undone. After his first 2 yrs the Pubs took the House back and all legislation stopped. obama could only do illegal executive orders to get what he wanted because he was incapable of negotiating with those that didn't agree with him.
I'm hoping Trump is smarter than obama and he negotiates with the Pubs that control the House and Senate and even Rats if they are going to be reasonable. If he does this he can get things done that will last. So I don't see how Trump supporters help their cause by denigrating those who don't fall in line. Trump won a big electoral victory, but a lot States were pretty close and could have gone the other way.
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I completely stand by that remark. (And those here who know me, know I meant "SOCONS")
Trump has the unique opportunity to reshape the entire Republican Party. In fact, the entire American political landscape for generations.
And if the 'new' Republican Party becomes the home for millions of new cross-overs...Trump has done his job.
So I take it "social conservatives" are those who think men shouldn't be in the women's bathroom?
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You know this sounds an awful lot like obama when the Pubs met with him to discuss problems with obamacare. Obama told them "I won, you lost, get over it". All the liberals loved it at the time. Now 8 years later everything obama did will be undone. After his first 2 yrs the Pubs took the House back and all legislation stopped. obama could only do illegal executive orders to get what he wanted because he was incapable of negotiating with those that didn't agree with him.
I'm hoping Trump is smarter than obama and he negotiates with the Pubs that control the House and Senate and even Rats if they are going to be reasonable. If he does this he can get things done that will last. So I don't see how Trump supporters help their cause by denigrating those who don't fall in line. Trump won a big electoral victory, but a lot States were pretty close and could have gone the other way.
The internet is great. Someone can claim to be conservative when spouting verbatim Obama zombie language and for all we know, they WERE Obama zombies and just advancing his agenda. Such is the curse of internet forums.
Great...
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You said it. Don't blame me for your comments.
You've been calling everybody in here that was for Trump a liberal. In the most insulting and degrading manner. You have no credibility anymore.
I consider myself a staunch fiscal conservative, and have supported same for decades.
And all I want out of a SCOTUS pick is for them to enforce the Constitution as written.
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All this angst and bickering over the naming of the COS....sheeeesh!
COS's come and go...let's worry about the SCOTUS picks!
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You know this sounds an awful lot like obama when the Pubs met with him to discuss problems with obamacare. Obama told them "I won, you lost, get over it". All the liberals loved it at the time. Now 8 years later everything obama did will be undone. After his first 2 yrs the Pubs took the House back and all legislation stopped. obama could only do illegal executive orders to get what he wanted because he was incapable of negotiating with those that didn't agree with him.
I'm hoping Trump is smarter than obama and he negotiates with the Pubs that control the House and Senate and even Rats if they are going to be reasonable. If he does this he can get things done that will last. So I don't see how Trump supporters help their cause by denigrating those who don't fall in line. Trump won a big electoral victory, but a lot States were pretty close and could have gone the other way.
Kiss the ring or burn. And they just love comparing him to Reagan. Reagan would never say such a thing. He tried to win people to his side by reason, not threats.
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You've been calling everybody in here that was for Trump a liberal. In the most insulting and degrading manner. You have no credibility anymore.
I consider myself a staunch fiscal conservative, and have supported same for decades.
And all I want out of a SCOTUS pick is for them to enforce the Constitution as written.
Someone saying what you did has no credibility with conservatives.
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I consider myself a staunch fiscal conservative, and have supported same for decades.
So, how is more stimulus spending on infrastructure fiscally conservative?
How is the federal government's involvement with healthcare, setting terms on what is and isn't covered (preexisting conditions) and the government paying for peoples health insurance that "can't afford it" fiscally conservative?
At all?
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COS's come and go...let's worry about the SCOTUS picks!
Same thing will happen.
Trump could nominate Obama to SCOTUS and all these same Trump supporters will lecture us on how excellent that choice was and demand we accept that it showcases Trump's brilliance and ability to strategize.
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The back peddling and Trumpsplaining is quite comical. :smokin:
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So, how is more stimulus spending on infrastructure fiscally conservative?
How is the federal government's involvement with healthcare, setting terms on what is and isn't covered (preexisting conditions) and the government paying for peoples health insurance that "can't afford it" fiscally conservative?
At all?
Because Trump and his supporters say it is. That is all that you need to know and accept.
They won. Get over it. Learn to accept the fact that your brand of Conservatism is no longer valid, it is totally irrelevant, no one wants it, no one listens to it and no one cares about it and no one gives a damn about Conservatism.
It's all about the NEW Conservatism Trump is bringing.
So get on the train, or get put on the train. Your choice. They won.
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Because Trump and his supporters say it is. That is all that you need to know and accept.
They won. Get over it. Learn to accept the fact that your brand of Conservatism is no longer valid, it is totally irrelevant, no one wants it, no one listens to it and no one cares about it and no one gives a damn about Conservatism.
It's all about the NEW Conservatism Trump is bringing.
So get on the train, or get put on the train. Your choice. They won.
QFT
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Because Trump and his supporters say it is. That is all that you need to know and accept.
They won. Get over it. Learn to accept the fact that your brand of Conservatism is no longer valid, it is totally irrelevant, no one wants it, no one listens to it and no one cares about it and no one gives a damn about Conservatism.
It's all about the NEW Conservatism Trump is bringing.
So get on the train, or get put on the train. Your choice. They won.
They are gonna be in for an awful shock when their 'rule' is given the ignoring they earned for it.
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Because Trump and his supporters say it is. That is all that you need to know and accept.
They won. Get over it. Learn to accept the fact that your brand of Conservatism is no longer valid, it is totally irrelevant, no one wants it, no one listens to it and no one cares about it and no one gives a damn about Conservatism.
It's all about the NEW Conservatism Trump is bringing.
So get on the train, or get put on the train. Your choice. They won.
The act is so tired, Schitzo!!! :whistle:
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Oh how the worm has turned. /sarc
Sure, Drumpf is going to fight the "establishment."
Bannon, the Rasputin of the alt-right has ascended to head puppeteer.*
* Assuming Putin isn't pulling his strings.
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News flash, the new GOP won the election. The new GOP now controls the House the Senate and the White House. And by the way the new GOP is a conservative GOP. Neocon Bushbots can go back to the Rat party where they belong. Secure the border, enforce the law, strong military, trade deals that work for Americans, pro-life conservative judges, what is not to like?
So Reince, Ryan, and McConnell are the new conservative GOP, and conservatives are now Neocon Bushbots? The same Reince that gave us Romney, the same Ryan and McConnell that caved to Obama and as of a few months ago were the Establishment Swamp?
That's some Tricky Dicky Switcharoo there.
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The act is so tired, Schitzo!!! :whistle:
Not as tired as your constant explaining of how it's a good thing everytime Trump continues to lurch leftward just like some of us predicted he would.
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Oh how the worm has turned. /sarc
Sure, Drumpf is going to fight the "establishment."
Bannon, the Rasputin of the alt-right has ascended to head puppeteer.*
* Assuming Putin isn't pulling his strings.
Tonight Trump said he doesn't want to hurt the Clintons because they're good people and that the supreme court has decided gay marriage and he's fine with that.
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Tonight Trump said he doesn't want to hurt the Clintons because they're good people and that the supreme court has decided gay marriage and he's fine with that.
LOL! He's not even waiting until he's sworn in to give his supporters buyers remorse.
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Tonight Trump said he doesn't want to hurt the Clintons because they're good people and that the supreme court has decided gay marriage and he's fine with that.
Crooked Hillary? Really? I am sure I watched him explain to America why she was a bad person.
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LOL! He's not even waiting until he's sworn in to give his supporters buyers remorse.
What remorse. They cheer whatever he does.
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What remorse. They cheer whatever he does.
Exactly what we said they would do. It's not surprising.
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So to review...
Not going to prosecute Hillary
Not going to repeal Obamacare
Appoints the ultimate GOP insider to be his CofS.
Trump is getting to the center faster than a kid with an Oreo.
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The act is so tired, Schitzo!!!
Tell that to your Trump compatriots.
I lifted that exact phrase directly from them.
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Even if they follow up on their hunting us down with dogs threats, they can't kill the idea. And that knowledge infuriates them.
That's why so many seem so disappointed we aren't having snowflake meltdowns like Hillary's peeps. We never supported her, anyway. As for hunting me down with dogs, well, that would be a waste of good dogs (and handlers), but a fellow does what he must. The idea of a Constitutional Republic won't die.
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That's why so many seem so disappointed we aren't having snowflake meltdowns like Hillary's peeps. We never supported her, anyway. As for hunting me down with dogs, well, that would be a waste of good dogs (and handlers), but a fellow does what he must. The idea of a Constitutional Republic won't die.
In his speech, Trump called for unity. He did not call for slavish devotion. As usual, the vitrol is coming in large part from Trumps fanatical wing of supporters.
I thought I would be a lot more upset about conservatism losing. But so far I can't be. I'm too busy being shown why fanatics must be opposed unceasingly.
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So, how is more stimulus spending on infrastructure fiscally conservative?
How is the federal government's involvement with healthcare, setting terms on what is and isn't covered (preexisting conditions) and the government paying for peoples health insurance that "can't afford it" fiscally conservative?
At all?
And how is somebody who apparently doesn't like the electoral college, conservative?
Trump on 60 minutes: But I would rather see it where you went with simple votes. You know, you get 100 million votes and somebody else gets 90 million votes and you win.
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And how is somebody who apparently doesn't like the electoral college, conservative?
Trump on 60 minutes: But I would rather see it where you went with simple votes. You know, you get 100 million votes and somebody else gets 90 million votes and you win.
Are we sure Clinton didn't win?
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Are we sure Clinton didn't win?
Apparently Trump agrees with the protestors and the left. Clinton should be the winner.
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Everything this guy has said and done is indicative of what he WILL say and DO! this is really all very simple!!
why anyones surprised at this by now...is beyond me!'
this is what duplicitous dishonest people DO!
i will drain the swamp... and then fill it with MAMMOTH PIRAÑAS? Great work! just wonderful!
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Everything this guy has said and done is indicative of what he WILL say and DO! this is really all very simple!!
why anyones surprised at this by now...is beyond me!'
this is what duplicitous dishonest people DO!
i will drain the swamp... and then fill it with MAMMOTH PIRAÑAS? Great work! just wonderful!
Meanwhile the establishment laughs in the faces of those dumb enough to have been fooled by the Trump circus.
(http://i.imgur.com/2gj64Mf.gif)
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UUUUGGGGHHHHHH!!!! I can't stand the guy....what a snake Priebus is....
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@geronl Ummmm. No. I don't think so. He needs an Operator there.
His own personal quack, who can write a doctors note in 5 minutes while the patient waits in the car.
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I know it's an important job....I am hoping Pence's influence comes into play on those picks
So, you want them to be like Justice Roberts... because Wince Creepus is part of the Boehner-McConnell cabal against conservatives
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So, you want them to be like Justice Roberts... because Wince Creepus is part of the Boehner-McConnell cabal against conservatives
Rince Prebus and wash....LoL
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The act is so tired, Schitzo!!! :whistle:
Let the vile NeverTrumpers talk to themselves, they've earned one another company.
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Let the vile NeverTrumpers talk to themselves, they've earned one another company.
There's something we totally agree on!
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Let the vile NeverTrumpers talk to themselves, they've earned one another company.
Speaking of tired acts...
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Let the vile NeverTrumpers talk to themselves, they've earned one another company.
Their boy McMullin got less than one half of one percent and their other boy Castle didn't make it on the scoreboard.
Statistical zeros... :laugh:
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Kiss the ring or burn. And they just love comparing him to Reagan. Reagan would never say such a thing. He tried to win people to his side by reason, not threats.
I'm with you 100%.
Reagan was beautiful in how he could turn comments aimed at hurting him to his benefit with a pleasant smile and quick word. Trump for all his moral shortcomings and lack of understanding of conservative principals is not a fool. He has already indicated he won't take a salary and won't be spending most of his time at the White House. He's doing a great job of creating an image of himself as being "with the people who have been ignored". If he's smart enough to do this I think he will be smart enough to not act like his supporters. He will try to find common ground on most things.
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I'm with you 100%.
Reagan was beautiful in how he could turn comments aimed at hurting him to his benefit with a pleasant smile and quick word. Trump for all his moral shortcomings and lack of understanding of conservative principals is not a fool. He has already indicated he won't take a salary and won't be spending most of his time at the White House. He's doing a great job of creating an image of himself as being "with the people who have been ignored". If he's smart enough to do this I think he will be smart enough to not act like his supporters. He will try to find common ground on most things.
Reagan was a true and natural diplomat.
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Reagan was a true and natural diplomat.
He was and he was a gentleman. I voted for him twice and I'm still hoping I'll see another like him in my lifetime.
When talking with millenials I love to point out to them that when I was getting started in business there was a roaring economy with GDP at 4%+ and opportunity everywhere you looked. When they come back with nonsense about defense I point out to them they never lived with the threat of global thermonuclear war because Reagan crushed the USSR.
Trump is lucky if he walks in Reagan's shadow, but in some ways he can accomplish great things if he follows through on his campaign promises. I'm going to try and give him 6 months after he's sworn in before I criticize him. By then I think the ttrend will be clear. It's to bad his supporters can be such jerks.
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When they come back with nonsense about defense I point out to them they never lived with the threat of global thermonuclear war because Reagan crushed the USSR.
Ain't that the truth. One worry I'm glad we've had on hold for a quarter century.
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He was and he was a gentleman. I voted for him twice and I'm still hoping I'll see another like him in my lifetime.
When talking with millenials I love to point out to them that when I was getting started in business there was a roaring economy with GDP at 4%+ and opportunity everywhere you looked. When they come back with nonsense about defense I point out to them they never lived with the threat of global thermonuclear war because Reagan crushed the USSR.
Trump is lucky if he walks in Reagan's shadow, but in some ways he can accomplish great things if he follows through on his campaign promises. I'm going to try and give him 6 months after he's sworn in before I criticize him. By then I think the ttrend will be clear. It's to bad his supporters can be such jerks.
America would be a better place if Millenials had been taught the truth of Reagan. But that goes back to liberals controlling the media/education. They had to demonize him otherwise they would have lost their grip on power if the truth was known by all.
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I'm with you 100%.
Reagan was beautiful in how he could turn comments aimed at hurting him to his benefit with a pleasant smile and quick word. Trump for all his moral shortcomings and lack of understanding of conservative principals is not a fool. He has already indicated he won't take a salary and won't be spending most of his time at the White House. He's doing a great job of creating an image of himself as being "with the people who have been ignored". If he's smart enough to do this I think he will be smart enough to not act like his supporters. He will try to find common ground on most things.
I don't think he's thought through the not being in the White House most of the time. There are enormous costs providing security outside of the White House. There are protected ways out of the White House in a siege or eminent threat. There are heavy defenses around the White House making it defendable. In addition he endangers others if he tries to live among us.
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I completely stand by that remark. (And those here who know me, know I meant "SOCONS")
Trump has the unique opportunity to reshape the entire Republican Party. In fact, the entire American political landscape for generations.
And if the 'new' Republican Party becomes the home for millions of new cross-overs...Trump has done his job.
Gotcha. Honor means nothing, Right and wrong mean nothing, The Constitution is just another piece of parchment that stands in your way. It's all about the money with you. What you don't get is that none of that will be anything but a den of thieves squabbling over scraps.
You aren't anyone to run the river with, but you probably don't even understand that insult. If you are the new face of the GOP, I'm glad I am gone from it.
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Gotcha. Honor means nothing, Right and wrong mean nothing, The Constitution is just another piece of parchment that stands in your way. It's all about the money with you. What you don't get is that none of that will be anything but a den of thieves squabbling over scraps.
You aren't anyone to run the river with, but you probably don't even understand that insult. If you are the new face of the GOP, I'm glad I am gone from it.
https://jermination.wordpress.com/2008/04/26/the-three-legged-stool/
The Three-Legged Stool
This is certainly not my original thought, but it does seem appropriate to bring it up on the eve before Super Tuesday.
True Conservatism can be likened to a 3-legged stool. The first leg is National Security/Foreign Policy. Conservatives are for a strong military, an enforcement of legal immigration, a strong stance against terror, and a belief that America should take the lead in foreign policy, protecting American interests and sacrificing our sovereignty to no one.
The second leg is fiscal conservatism (which actually has a lot in common with Libertarianism.) The basic gist is lower taxes, smaller government, less intrusion and regulation – get government out of the way and let people prosper.
The third leg is social conservatism. Everyone knows what this means. It is the moral center – the conscience of a conservative. It is what causes us to be pro-life, to fight injustice, to promote families and protect people’s right to practice their religion. It influences what kind of judges we appoint and where we fall on issues like embryonic stem cell research.
This three-legged stool metaphor is the foundation of modern conservatism as taught by Barry Goldwater, and flawlessly applied by Ronald Reagan.
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https://jermination.wordpress.com/2008/04/26/the-three-legged-stool/
The Three-Legged Stool
This is certainly not my original thought, but it does seem appropriate to bring it up on the eve before Super Tuesday.
True Conservatism can be likened to a 3-legged stool. The first leg is National Security/Foreign Policy. Conservatives are for a strong military, an enforcement of legal immigration, a strong stance against terror, and a belief that America should take the lead in foreign policy, protecting American interests and sacrificing our sovereignty to no one.
The second leg is fiscal conservatism (which actually has a lot in common with Libertarianism.) The basic gist is lower taxes, smaller government, less intrusion and regulation – get government out of the way and let people prosper.
The third leg is social conservatism. Everyone knows what this means. It is the moral center – the conscience of a conservative. It is what causes us to be pro-life, to fight injustice, to promote families and protect people’s right to practice their religion. It influences what kind of judges we appoint and where we fall on issues like embryonic stem cell research.
This three-legged stool metaphor is the foundation of modern conservatism as taught by Barry Goldwater, and flawlessly applied by Ronald Reagan.
Without the constraints placed on our foreign policy by a strong sense of right and wrong, we become just another imperial force for the enrichment of those who wield that power. Without a sense of right and wrong, we have no metric by which to determine injustice except a corporate bottom line. Without that sense of Right and wrong, we cannot lead from any moral high ground, at home nor abroad. Without that sense of right and wrong, there is no guide as to what government is appropriate and what is not, only a balance sheet. Without it, no fairness will ensue, only unbridled and ruthless greed.
If social Conservatives are unwelcome in the GOP, the party can go to Hell with the Democrats it has been acting more like every year. Without that aspect, whatever is left isn't Conservatism. At least there is enough honesty (hubris?) among the people who laud this "victory" to say we are unwelcome instead of just treat us like shit and pretend to be our friends. Wake up people.
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Without the constraints placed on our foreign policy by a strong sense of right and wrong, we become just another imperial force for the enrichment of those who wield that power. Without a sense of right and wrong, we have no metric by which to determine injustice except a corporate bottom line. Without that sense of Right and wrong, we cannot lead from any moral high ground, at home nor abroad. Without that sense of right and wrong, there is no guide as to what government is appropriate and what is not, only a balance sheet. Without it, no fairness will ensue, only unbridled and ruthless greed.
If social Conservatives are unwelcome in the GOP, the party can go to Hell with the Democrats it has been acting more like every year. Without that aspect, whatever is left isn't Conservatism. At least there is enough honesty (hubris?) among the people who laud this "victory" to say we are unwelcome instead of just treat us like shit and pretend to be our friends. Wake up people.
The simple fact of the matter is that there is no 'conservatism' without all three legs. Anyone claiming otherwise need to take it up with Goldwater and Reagan. Or Geometry. Stools are unstable with two legs and the slightest breese when the wind blows will knock them over.
Take away SoCons and you have a group of moderates at best.
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Without the constraints placed on our foreign policy by a strong sense of right and wrong, we become just another imperial force for the enrichment of those who wield that power. Without a sense of right and wrong, we have no metric by which to determine injustice except a corporate bottom line. Without that sense of Right and wrong, we cannot lead from any moral high ground, at home nor abroad. Without that sense of right and wrong, there is no guide as to what government is appropriate and what is not, only a balance sheet. Without it, no fairness will ensue, only unbridled and ruthless greed.
If social Conservatives are unwelcome in the GOP, the party can go to Hell with the Democrats it has been acting more like every year. Without that aspect, whatever is left isn't Conservatism. At least there is enough honesty (hubris?) among the people who laud this "victory" to say we are unwelcome instead of just treat us like shit and pretend to be our friends. Wake up people.
Without principles, you don't have a rudder. You drift with the tide.
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Their boy McMullin got less than one half of one percent and their other boy Castle didn't make it on the scoreboard.
Statistical zeros... :laugh:
More proof this is all nothing more than a stupid sporting event to you people. Your team won - the rest of us can go cry in the dugout until next season to vie for the "championship".
Foundational principles don't mean squat to you people. Just numbers you can rub in the LOSERS face while dancing around in euphoria exclaiming 'I won! I won!'. You want your ticker tape parade while singing Queen. Makes you no different than the ideologies you pretend to oppose. Liberty and limited government continues to lose and you guys don't give a crap because to you - Constitutional liberty is getting your guy into office to execute punishments and payback while making bigger government managed under your cult of personality.
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Without the constraints placed on our foreign policy by a strong sense of right and wrong, we become just another imperial force for the enrichment of those who wield that power. Without a sense of right and wrong, we have no metric by which to determine injustice except a corporate bottom line. Without that sense of Right and wrong, we cannot lead from any moral high ground, at home nor abroad. Without that sense of right and wrong, there is no guide as to what government is appropriate and what is not, only a balance sheet. Without it, no fairness will ensue, only unbridled and ruthless greed.
If social Conservatives are unwelcome in the GOP, the party can go to Hell with the Democrats it has been acting more like every year. Without that aspect, whatever is left isn't Conservatism. At least there is enough honesty (hubris?) among the people who laud this "victory" to say we are unwelcome instead of just treat us like shit and pretend to be our friends. Wake up people.
"...while it is rioting in rapine and insolence, this country will be the most miserable habitation in the world; because we have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge, or gallantry would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." - John Adams - October 11, 1798
We are no longer a religious or moral people - which is why the Constitution is no longer relevant and we are no longer a Republic with a limited government.
We are not a people capable of being self-governed.
The government has become god, it's politicians it's priests and messiahs and Empire is our lot and our ruination to come.
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Bet he promised this for all the heavy-handed tactics at the convention.
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I thought Priebus was the problem with D.C. - the spineless establishment - that Trump was going to fix? How does hiring the problem as your Chief of Staff count as fixing the problem?
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I thought Priebus was the problem with D.C. - the spineless establishment - that Trump was going to fix? How does hiring the problem as your Chief of Staff count as fixing the problem?
That's so last week...
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That's so last week...
We have always been at war with Oceana....