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Woodward book: Worried Trump could 'go rogue,' Milley took top-secret action to protect nuclear weapons
By Jamie Gangel, Jeremy Herb and Elizabeth Stuart, CNN
Updated 11:53 AM ET, Tue September 14, 2021
Washington (CNN)Two days after the January 6 attack on the US Capitol, President Donald Trump's top military adviser, Joint Chiefs Chairman Gen. Mark Milley, single-handedly took top-secret action to limit Trump from potentially ordering a dangerous military strike or launching nuclear weapons, according to "Peril," a new book by legendary journalist Bob Woodward and veteran Washington Post reporter Robert Costa.
Woodward and Costa write that Milley, deeply shaken by the assault, 'was certain that Trump had gone into a serious mental decline in the aftermath of the election, with Trump now all but manic, screaming at officials and constructing his own alternate reality about endless election conspiracies.'
Milley worried that Trump could 'go rogue,' the authors write.
"You never know what a president's trigger point is," Milley told his senior staff, according to the book.
In response, Milley took extraordinary action, and called a secret meeting in his Pentagon office on January 8 to review the process for military action, including launching nuclear weapons. Speaking to senior military officials in charge of the National Military Command Center, the Pentagon's war room, Milley instructed them not to take orders from anyone unless he was involved.
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https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/14/politics/woodward-book-trump-nuclear/index.html
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https://twitter.com/Mediaite/status/1437816180249702402
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https://twitter.com/MrNukemCocaine/status/1437812321934618633
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Wow. So he attempted to conduct a full coup.
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Matt Couch
@RealMattCouch
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BREAKING: General Mark Milley held secret pentagon meeting, told staff not to take orders from President Donald Trump Regarding Nuclear Weapons.
TREASON!!!!!
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"Worse than Watergate" Woodward is at it again.
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If he was so concerned, why didn't he initiate Amendment 25 proceedings, or speak to those who could? That is what the 25th Amendment is ostensibly for.
But no. Instead, he decided to commit treason.
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Milley has some explaining to do....on why he didn't commit treason.
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Matt Couch
@RealMattCouch
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Why did General Milley have TWO phone calls with China's top general during and after January 6 to discuss President Trump.. While President Trump was still the Commander in Chief...
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OMG
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1437821608509546500
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Milley has some explaining to do....on why he didn't commit treason.
He should have some explaining to do. But he won’t - not in the corrupt putrid cesspool he swims in.
The headline sets a new standard in deliberate misdirection. Congrats CNN, you just keep outdoing yourself.
Does anyone doubt the US joint chiefs are now capable, under the right circumstances, of committing an open military coup? Imagine a future president tries to depoliticize the Pentagon by replacing the current leadership.
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Jack Posobiec 🇺🇸
@JackPosobiec
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Arrest General Milley
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Jack Posobiec 🇺🇸
@JackPosobiec
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Milley’s insane and reckless actions could have triggered a first strike by China on American cities
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Nothing to see here people...just the military removing civilian controls over them behind the back of the CINC...move along...
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https://twitter.com/JesseKellyDC/status/1437823972452798474
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If you want to see what a REAL insurrection and attempted coup is...THIS it...Milley was directing the textbook definition of both.
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If you want to see what a REAL insurrection and attempted coup is...THIS it...Milley was directing the textbook definition of both.
we know from years of watching and listening the rats always accuse their opposition of what they themselves are guilty of.
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Jack Posobiec 🇺🇸
@JackPosobiec
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Arrest General Milley
From what I know of General Milley, he will have a Great time in prison, convincing all the 'brothers and homosexuals' how WOKE he/she is.
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General Mark Milley Held Secret Meetings Behind Trump’s Back: Report
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Milley conducted two clandestine phone calls with China’s top general and he received a phone call from House Speaker and California Rep. Nancy Pelosi of which Woodward and Costa received an exclusive transcript. In the phone call Milley told Pelosi that the nuclear weapons were safe.
“What I’m saying to you is that if they couldn’t even stop him from an assault on the Capitol, who even knows what else he may do? And is there anybody in charge at the White House who was doing anything but kissing his fat butt all over this?” she said. “You know he’s crazy. He’s been crazy for a long time.”
Milley responded by saying, “Madam Speaker, I agree with you on everything.”
After the phone call with the Speaker, he decided to take action and told his top chiefs to watch everything “all the time.”
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https://conservativebrief.com/secret-meetings-2-51069/
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So the Speaker of the House was complicit in the attempted coup...treason
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So the Speaker of the House was complicit in the attempted coup...treason
Like @skeeter said...they are always guilty of that which they accuse others of doing.
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Charlie Kirk
@charliekirk11
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According to a new book, Mark Milley told General Li of the Chinese Communist Party:
“If we’re going to attack, I’m going to call you ahead of time. It’s not going to be a surprise.”
If this is true, it's treason. He needs to be removed & prosecuted immediately.
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https://twitter.com/RonColeman/status/1437819511483375618
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Like @skeeter said...they are always guilty of that which they accuse others of doing.
And impeach others for straining at a gnat while they swallow a camel.
The other thing we know for certain is there will be no consequences.
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https://twitter.com/julie_kelly2/status/1437822286178963456
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https://twitter.com/gregkellyusa/status/1437827198145159176
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https://twitter.com/julie_kelly2/status/1437822286178963456
reading the replies - it’s really discouraging there are so many effing stupid people in this country who are so blinded by partisanship they cannot see the danger Milleys actions represent.
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The man who was ending wars, threw a lasso around North Korea, and was seeding the Middle East with peace ......... frightened Pelosi and Milley?
Bullshit. Arrest them both.
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Charlie Kirk
@charliekirk11
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According to a new book, Mark Milley told General Li of the Chinese Communist Party:
“If we’re going to attack, I’m going to call you ahead of time. It’s not going to be a surprise.”
If this is true, it's treason. He needs to be removed & prosecuted immediately.
If Milley did that, did he call the Taliban and tell them the U.S. withdrawal plan?
How many other foreign leaders has he called to warn them of anything he personally disagreed with.
Did he call Syria, Iraq, Russia, or Iran, to warn them? My bet is that he did.
Milley was acting as a subversive double-agent during the Trump years.
My guess is, what we know is only the tip of the iceberg.
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https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1437830693875224578
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https://twitter.com/Dlw20161950/status/1437830712552562695
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reading the replies - it’s really discouraging there are so many effing stupid people in this country who are so blinded by partisanship they cannot see the danger Milleys actions represent.
I noticed that, too @skeeter I'm hoping they're part of the paid brigade of shit-kickers and not the average American.
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Charlie Kirk
@charliekirk11
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A US General told a Chinese General that he would warn them of any potential attack against China.
Is that Collusion? Where are the transcripts? Was it a 'Perfect Phone Call?' Every Republican in Congress should be demanding answers right now.
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reading the replies - it’s really discouraging there are so many effing stupid people in this country who are so blinded by partisanship they cannot see the danger Milleys actions represent.
Their tone would have been a lot different if ADM Mullen or GEN Dempsey had done this to Obama on his way out.
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https://twitter.com/JesseKellyDC/status/1437825152809684995
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The least that should happen is his Security Clearance SHOULD be suspended until this is verified.
In this anti-America administration, no one can tell if it WILL happen.
The traitorous Democrats see him as a hero. He is a brother traitor, just like them.
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Their tone would have been a lot different if ADM Mullen or GEN Dempsey had done this to Obama on his way out.
I'm sure it would’ve. As viscerally satisfying as it might have been I would never applaud such partisan crap. What goes around comes around & we’ll all end up suffering.
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The least that should happen is his Security Clearance SHOULD be suspended until this is verified.
In this anti-America administration, no one can tell if it WILL happen.
The traitorous Democrats see him as a hero. He is a brother traitor, just like them.
Lloyd Austin should temporarily remove him from the CJCS position until an investigation is conducted...and allow the Vice Chairman to temorarily take over.
But given the fact it's Lloyd Austin what should happen will never happen. Expect the wagons to circle around Milley and defend him from what should be his fate.
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Cernovich
@Cernovich
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The Milley coup story shows the irony of Biden’s win. Trump never could have gotten America out of Afghanistan. It’s a trip. And also a reminder of the Zen master and the horse. A loss can be a win and a win a loss.
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I'm sure it would’ve. As viscerally satisfying as it might have been I would never applaud such partisan crap. What goes around comes around.
It doesn't matter what your politic are...this should frighten EVERYONE that it was actually done. It should worry everyone in uniform from the newest recruit to any flag officer serving at the Pentagon.
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Cernovich
@Cernovich
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The Milley coup story shows the irony of Biden’s win. Trump never could have gotten America out of Afghanistan. It’s a trip. And also a reminder of the Zen master and the horse. A loss can be a win and a win a loss.
I think I know what this guy is saying and he’s probably right. About trump not being able to get us out of Afghanistan. Not with the gang currently running the pentagon.
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https://twitter.com/Dlw20161950/status/1437833400015106052
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https://twitter.com/PoliticalShort/status/1437833622610919438
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https://mobile.twitter.com/JerryDunleavy/status/1437820736366944262
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Jack Posobiec 🇺🇸
@JackPosobiec
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BREAKING: Several Pentagon officers present in Milley’s secret meeting are willing to testify against him under oath, per WH official
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Jack Posobiec 🇺🇸
@JackPosobiec
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BREAKING: At least one of Milley's calls to China was intercepted by a partner nation targeting PRC leadership and resulted in a FVEY rocket of "WTF" to Meade and Bolling, per IC official
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Jack Posobiec 🇺🇸
@JackPosobiec
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BREAKING: Several Pentagon officers present in Milley’s secret meeting are willing to testify against him under oath, per WH official
WOW...good..I want to see this POS held accountable..
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Lloyd Austin should temporarily remove him from the CJCS position until an investigation is conducted...and allow the Vice Chairman to temorarily take over.
But given the fact it's Lloyd Austin what should happen will never happen. Expect the wagons to circle around Milley and defend him from what should be his fate.
I want public hearings on this and I want Milley, his staff and Pelosi to raise their right hands and swear to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
Then I want them to resign and be tried for treason.
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Hammy ✈
@e2pilot
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The fact that not ONE Flag Officer marched into Gen Milley's office and relieved him of command under Art. 94 of the UCMJ, or reported to the President of the United States that the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs was conspiring against him...tells me we have lost the Military.
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https://twitter.com/JesseKellyDC/status/1437825152809684995
My reply:
https://twitter.com/Tinker08406246/status/1437835952404193280
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https://twitter.com/WillRicci/status/1437834241212092417
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Jack Posobiec 🇺🇸
@JackPosobiec
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BREAKING: Several Pentagon officers present in Milley’s secret meeting are willing to testify against him under oath, per WH official
:0001: Please be true.
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I want public hearings on this and I want Milley, his staff and Pelosi to raise their right hands and swear to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
Then I want them to resign and be tried for treason.
What would be fitting for Milley IMHO if any of this is proven to be true...is to have a couple of Sergeants from the MP Company at Ft. Myer walk Milley out of the SecDef entrance to the Pentagon (that's the side his office is on) in handcuffs and deposit him in a holding cell at the Provost Marshal's Office. The charge against him would be a violation of Article 94 (Mutiny or Sedition) of the UCMJ.
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I'm grateful this broke as lunch was delivered ..... happy77
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Hammy ✈
@e2pilot
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The fact that not ONE Flag Officer marched into Gen Milley's office and relieved him of command under Art. 94 of the UCMJ, or reported to the President of the United States that the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs was conspiring against him...tells me we have lost the Military.
At least the top brass....not the grunts on the ground...
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:0001: Please be true.
Even if it is true nothing is going to happen to Milley @Right_in_Virginia This formerly great republic is too far gone now!
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https://twitter.com/bdomenech/status/1437822377635852293
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A.C. Spollen
@ACSpollen
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Lt. Col. Stuart Scheller was relieved of duty for posting a video criticizing the withdrawal from Afghanistan.
Meanwhile, Gen. Mark Milley secretly coordinated with China to undermine a duly elected Commander in Chief. Still has his job.
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https://twitter.com/derekahunter/status/1437837957495508995
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At least the top brass....not the grunts on the ground...
Right! It's important to make that differentiation.
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The boundaries protecting our country keep being crossed in more extreme ways and no one is held accountable.
What the hell is next?
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Milley seized Presidential powers and control. Essentially, Milley put the entire American Armed Forces on all levels even to the very top, under HIS discretional control while blocking Trump out of the loop. During that period, Milley himself potentially could have launched a nuclear strike on a foreign nation by himself. He had worked around the U.S. President and was the only control.
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Even if it is true nothing is going to happen to Milley @Right_in_Virginia This formerly great republic is too far gone now!
Does anyone expect the Wellesley & Harvard Law grads running the White House to do anything about it?
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The boundaries protecting our country keep being crossed in more extreme ways and no one is held accountable.
What the hell is next?
Keep your powder dry and stay frosty.
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Right! It's important to make that differentiation.
It's also important to note that all that brass at the top can't do a damned thing without those boots on the ground!
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https://twitter.com/DailyMail/status/1437835493580984322
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Matt Couch
@RealMattCouch
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The fact that General Milley was communicating with China's Top General during Jan 6 and right after Jan 6, that should concern EVERY American regardless of politics..
#COURTMARTIALMILLEY
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It's also important to note that all that brass at the top can't do a damned thing without those boots on the ground!
Hence the reason they want to get rid of soldiers of a certain mindset at the enlisted and NCO level. They want people in uniform that look at Milley as the hero..the way Woodward is trying to portray him...instead of seeing him for what he really is with this illegal act he helped orchestrate.
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https://twitter.com/seanmdav/status/1437822325135659012
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***suicide***
https://mobile.twitter.com/ColumbiaBugle/status/1437837807775588353
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https://twitter.com/derekahunter/status/1437837957495508995
Don't just talk .... make it happen!
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I remember articles about Pelosi asking Milley about the codes and if Trump could launch...those rumors turned out to be true...and this was months ago.
Another thing that bothers me...Woodward's only concern was a book..instead of going to the President or even to the media/press and report what Milley was doing...but we all know where Woodward's loyalties lie....
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Don't just talk .... make it happen!
It shouldn't be just Milley! It should be every single military officer who had firsthand knowledge and did nothing!
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I remember articles about Pelosi asking Milley about the codes and if Trump could launch...those rumors turned out to be true...and this was months ago.
Is this the same Pelosi who wanted automatic weapons posted around Capitol for possible use on Trump protestors?
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https://twitter.com/seanmdav/status/1437841889827426309
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I remember articles about Pelosi asking Milley about the codes and if Trump could launch...those rumors turned out to be true...and this was months ago.
Another thing that bothers me...Woodward's only concern was a book..instead of going to the President or even to the media/press and report what Milley was doing...but we all know where Woodward's loyalties lie....
@mystery-ak
You weren't imagining things. Check the date on this CNN tweet.
CNN
@CNN
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House Speaker Nancy Pelosi told House Democrats that she has gotten assurances there are safeguards in place in the event President Trump wants to launch a nuclear weapon, according to multiple sources. https://cnn.it/35p922a
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https://twitter.com/codeofvets/status/1437843146315030540
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Pelosi says she spoke to Gen. Milley about Trump and the nuclear codes
By Phil Mattingly, Clare Foran and Zachary Cohen, CNN
Updated 3:48 PM ET, Fri January 8, 2021
Clyburn: This is the problem with attempting impeachment
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/08/politics/house-speaker-joint-chiefs-milley/index.html
Pelosi asks Joint Chiefs about preventing Trump ... - Politico
https://www.politico.com › news › 2021/01/08 › pelosi-...
Jan 8, 2021 — "He answered her questions regarding the process of nuclear ... things like nuclear codes," he said on NBC's "Today" show before Pelosi made ...
many articles
https://www.google.com/search?channel=cus5&client=firefox-b-1-d&q=pelosi+questions+milley+about+launch+codes
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I remember articles about Pelosi asking Milley about the codes and if Trump could launch...those rumors turned out to be true...and this was months ago.
Another thing that bothers me...Woodward's only concern was a book..instead of going to the President or even to the media/press and report what Milley was doing...but we all know where Woodward's loyalties lie....
@mystery-ak
You weren't imagining things. Check the date on this CNN tweet.
CNN
@CNN
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House Speaker Nancy Pelosi told House Democrats that she has gotten assurances there are safeguards in place in the event President Trump wants to launch a nuclear weapon, according to multiple sources. https://cnn.it/35p922a
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Jack Posobiec 🇺🇸
@JackPosobiec
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To be clear:
The Chairman of the Joint Chiefs promised to tip off the CCP if the US was planning military action
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"A nation can survive its fools and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and he carries his banners openly against the city. But the traitor moves among those within the gates freely, his sly whispers rustling through all alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears no traitor; he speaks in the accents familiar to his victim, and he wears their face and their garments and he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation; he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of a city; he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to be feared. The traitor is the plague."
Cicero About 2500 years ago
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Milley was acting as a subversive double-agent while Trump was President.
Who knows how many people/countries he called? Who knows what they talked about?
Who can say what Milley told them about ongoing American military operations and preparedness.
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https://twitter.com/almostjingo/status/1437846989291483136
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https://twitter.com/almostjingo/status/1437847284541104128
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Code of Vets ™
@codeofvets
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I do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic.
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Even if it is true nothing is going to happen to Milley @Right_in_Virginia This formerly great republic is too far gone now!
I'm desperately trying to believe there's one, damn tipping point out there @Bigun .... desperately trying.
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I'm desperately trying to believe there's one, damn tipping point out there @Bigun .... desperately trying.
@Right_in_Virginia the fact that not one officer or SES civilian that was privy to these conversations and directives given by Milley informed anyone in the Generals chain of command of what he was doing shows we're no where close to a much needed "tipping point"
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I'm desperately trying to believe there's one, damn tipping point out there @Bigun .... desperately trying.
Good luck with that @Right_in_Virginia :beer:
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Pot meet kettle...
Alexander S. Vindman
@AVindman
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If this is true GEN Milley must resign. He usurped civilian authority, broke Chain of Command, and violated the sacrosanct principle of civilian control over the military. It’s an extremely dangerous precedent. You can’t simply walk away from that. #dotherightthingintherightway twitter.com/washingtonpost…
Self awareness level = 0
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@mystery-ak
You weren't imagining things. Check the date on this CNN tweet.
I remembered this, too @txradioguy @mystery-ak
I also remember something candidate Joe Kent would talk about when talking about how/why his wife was killed in action. I'm trying to find that.
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@Right_in_Virginia the fact that not one officer or SES civilian that was privy to these conversations and directives given by Milley informed anyone in the Generals chain of command of what he was doing shows we're no where close to a much needed "tipping point"
No tipping point will come until Joe sixpack can no longer get what he needs at which point it will be FAR too late.
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Pot meet kettle...
Self awareness level = 0
000222
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No tipping point will come until Joe sixpack can no longer get what he needs at which point it will be FAR too late.
And that mentality is how we've gotten so far down this God forsaken road already.
Too many people didn't care about what the Congress Critters were doing in DC because it didn't affect them. It's the story of the boiling frog coming to life.
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@Right_in_Virginia the fact that not one officer or SES civilian that was privy to these conversations and directives given by Milley informed anyone in the Generals chain of command of what he was doing shows we're no where close to a much needed "tipping point"
But now that it's out, I've got my fingers cross that Milley's going down hard .... and Pelosi is neutered and doesn't run again thanks to the mud about to land on her. :crossed:
@txradioguy Maybe hope DOES spring eternal happy77
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Question for those who've served recently: how is this likely to be taken by the rank-and-file? Are we likely to see more resignations and loss of trust in the command chain?
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But now that it's out, I've got my fingers cross that Milley's going down hard .... and Pelosi is neutered and doesn't run again thanks to the mud about to land on her. :crossed:
@txradioguy Maybe hope DOES spring eternal happy77
I hope you're right...but after 23 years in uniform I've grown a bit skeptical.
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000222
Interesting emoji there @skeeter :laugh:
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Question for those who've served recently: how is this likely to be taken by the rank-and-file? Are we likely to see more resignations and loss of trust in the command chain?
Those that pay attention and know how chains of command and rank structure work will be angry. Those that know about how the civilian control of the military is supposed to work will be gobsmacked.
And even those that don't pay that much attention will know this is wrong and wonder if their own leadership will undermine them the same way.
As for resignations, IMHO if they didn't happen over what Milley did as outlined in that book it's not gonna happen. Too many senior officers...as well as NCO's are more worried about their careers and their own advancements than doing what is right.,
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But now that it's out, I've got my fingers cross that Milley's going down hard .... and Pelosi is neutered and doesn't run again thanks to the mud about to land on her. :crossed:
@txradioguy Maybe hope DOES spring eternal happy77
A few days ago, a Marine Lt. Colonel was forced out for making a public statement about something. Nowhere near this level of malfeasance!
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Those that pay attention and know how chains of command and rank structure work will be angry. Those that know about how the civilian control of the military is supposed to work will be gobsmacked.
And even those that don't pay that much attention will know this is wrong and wonder if their own leadership will undermine them the same way.
As for resignations, IMHO if they didn't happen over what Milley did as outlined in that book it's not gonna happen. Too many senior officers...as well as NCO's are more worried about their careers and their own advancements than doing what is right.,
Thanks
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A few days ago, a Marine Lt. Colonel was forced out for making a public statement about something. Nowher near this level of malfeasance!
A Marine LTC was forced out for speaking the truth.
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A Marine LTC was forced out for speaking the truth.
Pretty clear where we are isn't it?
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Pretty clear where we are isn't it?
It is and it's sad at the same time.
I'm proud of my service but at the same time disgusted by what I'm seeing going on by the people that led me.
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It is and it's sad at the same time.
I'm proud of my service but at the same time disgusted by what I'm seeing going on by the people that led me.
None of these worthless pukes was around when I was in uniform but that doesn't make it hurt one bit less!
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Question for those who've served recently: how is this likely to be taken by the rank-and-file? Are we likely to see more resignations and loss of trust in the command chain?
Are you asking if soldiers will care that they do not know which side of the ocean the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff is on and supporting?
How is any soldier of any kind going to fight in Taiwan, when they do not know if the Generals are secretly supporting China?
Truth is, we do not know how much information or how many documents Milley has forwarded to China and other foreign countries.
The United States can forget any foreign intelligence or any alliances with anybody anywhere.
After calling the Taliban 'partners', leaving highly sensitive equipment and gigabytes of Top Secret information in Afghanistan, and then colluding with senior Chinese officials, American Intelligence Security is now considered compromised and transparent. It seems to be openly available to anyone who wants to know anything.
Nobody in the world is going to ally with America in the future, and certainly nobody is going to tell America anything Confidential or Secret. America is officially blackballed worldwide, based on gross "childlike" incompetence and lack of trust.
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From all this Woodward admitted evidence, shouldn't Miley be executed if these points are true?
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None of these worthless pukes was around when I was in uniform but that doesn't make it hurt one bit less!
No it doesn't make it hurt any less. I'm sure you...like myself...don't believe that just because we took the uniform off...doesn't mean we stopped taking our oath seriously.
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No it doesn't make it hurt any less. I'm sure you...like myself...don't believe that just because we took the uniform off...doesn't mean we stopped taking our oath seriously.
Nobody ever released me from mine and I damned sure took it seriously!
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From what I know of General Milley, he will have a Great time in prison, convincing all the 'brothers and homosexuals' how WOKE he/she is.
Put his in GITMO with th3 next batch of Taliban we round up.
Seven Days in May comes to mind.
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Interesting emoji there @skeeter :laugh:
me, passing out from disbelief. Vindeman? Things just can’t get any weirder.
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me, passing out from disbelief. Vindeman? Things just can’t get any weirder.
I responded to that POS on twitter.
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The way 'spying' works is, you only do it voluntarily once. You can bet your house the Chinese recorded, verified, and documented every call Milley made to them, as did all other intelligence services who happened to intercept it. After that first call, China (and possibly Russia and a few other countries) had Milley over a barrel.
Within a couple of weeks the Chinese would have approached him in some way and would have told him you will now do what we tell you do and you will tell us everything we want to know. If not, we will release the tapes.
Was Milley wearing a wire for the Chinese in his daily briefings and meetings, including with the President? Did he plant bugs here and there? That is a very real possibility. That is something foreign intelligence typically does when they snag a patsy. Milley may have been a friend of China, but it is guaranteed that China was NOT a friend of Milley.
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From all this Woodward admitted evidence, shouldn't Miley be executed if these points are true?
Years ago he would have been hung or met the firing squad.... :smokin:
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https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1437854025668603910
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The boundaries protecting our country keep being crossed in more extreme ways and no one is held accountable.
What the hell is next?
When Biden threatens the American People with nukes and F-15s and Generals colluded with other nations and the Speaker of the House in their undercutting of a duly elected Commander in Chief, I think we have a problem.
We have had one since Brennan was appointed DCI.
As long as Milley has a job, we have a rogue military.
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Jonathan Swan
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Gen. Milley’s next hearing on the Hill will be interesting. It’s about time he addresses these questions on the record.
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https://twitter.com/hotairblog/status/1437863464144343050
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So what awards metals and honors will be piled onto Milley? Peace prize Medal of Honor Stars and Bars?
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Report: Mark Milley Told Military Officials Not to Take Orders After Capitol Riot
Kristina Wong 14 Sep 2021
Joint Chiefs Chairman Army Gen. Mark Milley single-handedly took top-secret action to preempt then-President Donald Trump from ordering a military strike or launching nuclear weapons, according to a new book.
According to Peril by Bob Woodward and Robert Costa, Milley was worried that after the January 6 Capitol breach, Trump could “go rogue” and called a secret meeting on January 8 with senior military leaders.
During that meeting, Milley instructed senior military officials in charge of the National Military Command Center to not take orders from anyone unless he was involved, according to a write-up of the book by CNN.
“No matter what you are told, you do the procedure. You do the process. And I’m part of that procedure,” Milley told them.
“Milley considered it an oath,” Woodward and Costa wrote.
more
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/09/14/report-mark-milley-told-military-officials-not-to-take-orders-after-capitol-riot/
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When you've lost Vindman ...
Alexander S. Vindman
@AVindman
If this is true GEN Milley must resign. He usurped civilian authority, broke Chain of Command, and violated the sacrosanct principle of civilian control over the military. It’s an extremely dangerous precedent. You can’t simply walk away from that. #dotherightthingintherightway
Seriously, if there is no court martial for this a$$hat, there's no justice.
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https://twitter.com/hotairblog/status/1437863464144343050
If you knew he was crazy, then why didn't you initiate 25th Amendment proceedings against him? That is the only authorized way to deal with a "crazy" President. Anything else, including what you did, sir, is treason, and should be punished accordingly.
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When you've lost Vindman ...Seriously, if there is no court martial for this a$$hat, there's no justice.
Agreed.
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Jonathan Swan
@jonathanvswan
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Gen. Milley’s next hearing on the Hill will be interesting. It’s about time he addresses these questions on the record.
It damned well better be the mother of all barbeque roasts, followed by a referral for prosecution for treason.
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When you've lost Vindman ...Seriously, if there is no court martial for this a$$hat, there's no justice.
Justice or no, the system will not be used in any way that may diminish faith in the fallibility of the ruling class and it will certainly not be used in a manner that might generate sympathy for the Bad Orange Man.
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"Ninety-nine percent of leadership failures are failures of character."
-Norman Schwarzkopf
I think we can see Milley's was 100% failure of character.
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From all this Woodward admitted evidence, shouldn't Miley be executed if these points are true?
Along with conspirators in this treason. He did not do this alone.
And the post turtle in the White House was threatening us with 'nukes and F-15s' within months of this.
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Cavuto covering this now
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Alexander S. Vindman
@AVindman
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If this is true GEN Milley must resign. He usurped civilian authority, broke Chain of Command, and violated the sacrosanct principle of civilian control over the military. It’s an extremely dangerous precedent. You can’t simply walk away from that. #dotherightthingintherightway twitter.com/washingtonpost…
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Report: Mark Milley Told Military Officials Not to Take Orders After Capitol Riot
Kristina Wong 14 Sep 2021
Joint Chiefs Chairman Army Gen. Mark Milley single-handedly took top-secret action to preempt then-President Donald Trump from ordering a military strike or launching nuclear weapons, according to a new book.
According to Peril by Bob Woodward and Robert Costa, Milley was worried that after the January 6 Capitol breach, Trump could “go rogue” and called a secret meeting on January 8 with senior military leaders.
During that meeting, Milley instructed senior military officials in charge of the National Military Command Center to not take orders from anyone unless he was involved, according to a write-up of the book by CNN.
“No matter what you are told, you do the procedure. You do the process. And I’m part of that procedure,” Milley told them.
“Milley considered it an oath,” Woodward and Costa wrote.
more
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/09/14/report-mark-milley-told-military-officials-not-to-take-orders-after-capitol-riot/
This is a testament to the raging paranoia (projection) of those behind the scenes: Democrats always accuse others of what they, themselves, either are doing, or in the worst case scenario, what they would do.
Milley, Pelosi, and no doubt a considerable cast of other high and low level conspirators are involved, and they are so convinced they have done "the right thing" undermining the Constitution, the Republic, the rule of law, the UCMJ, and National Security, they are bragging about it.
Why would they even risk going to these lengths to attempt to neuter a President?
BECAUSE THEY STOLE THE ELECTION.
Ans as long as Trump was still in power, they were at risk of being prosecuted.
But behind all that is the sense that this is all just next-level Kabuki theater, because for all the smoke and mirrors and flash and show, not one damned thing is being done about it.
Maybe Benedict Arnold was proud of his actions, too.
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https://twitter.com/AmerMilNews/status/1437825222930059271
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https://twitter.com/AmerMilNews/status/1437825222930059271
That is almost the definition of an attempted coup.
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https://twitter.com/BernardKerik/status/1437873522907430920
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Another Trump Appointment that Failed, Miserably.
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It damned well better be the mother of all barbeque roasts, followed by a referral for prosecution for treason.
WTF good is that going to do?
All they can do is posture and preen fo the cameras!
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I take small comfort in the fact that unlike Gen. Omar Bradley, thoroughly modern milley wont get an automatic 5th star.
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WTF good is that going to do?
All they can do is posture and preen fo the cameras!
Lots of smoke and fury with no actual action.
Those in power are completely lawless now.
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WTF good is that going to do?
All they can do is posture and preen fo the cameras!
Never gonna happen anyway. Drawing public attention to this, unless its to paint Milley as a hero, undermines the 1/6 insurrection narrative.
Its gonna die a quick death in the media.
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That is almost the definition of an attempted coup.
If he, in fact seized power, it goes beyond "attempted", it is a de facto coup.
If Pelosi was aware of it and did nothing, she is a conspirator.
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Talk About a Coup: It Was Pelosi Who Pushed Milley to Act Against Trump
By Nick Arama | Sep 14, 2021 5:00 PM ET
There’s an incredible report that broke today about improper actions by Gen. Mark Milley after the Capitol riot.
According to the report, Milley tried to interfere with Trump’s ability to solely control a nuclear decision.
From CNN:
“You never know what a president’s trigger point is,” Milley told his senior staff, according to the book.
In response, Milley took extraordinary action, and called a secret meeting in his Pentagon office on January 8 to review the process for military action, including launching nuclear weapons. Speaking to senior military officials in charge of the National Military Command Center, the Pentagon’s war room, Milley instructed them not to take orders from anyone unless he was involved.
“No matter what you are told, you do the procedure. You do the process. And I’m part of that procedure,” Milley told the officers, according to the book. He then went around the room, looked each officer in the eye, and asked them to verbally confirm they understood.
more
https://redstate.com/nick-arama/2021/09/14/talk-about-a-coup-it-was-pelosi-who-pushed-milley-to-act-against-trump-n442936
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If he, in fact seized power, it goes beyond "attempted", it is a de facto coup.
If Pelosi was aware of it and did nothing, she is a conspirator.
Although I always suspected it from the time I saw her tear up his SOU I knew for certain Pelosi was flat nuts.
The really scary part is SHE'S the one this moron, the Chairman of the Joints Chief of Staff, listened to.
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"The time to guard against corruption and tyranny is before they shall have gotten hold of us. It is better to keep the wolf out of the fold, than to trust to drawing his teeth and talons after he shall have entered."
Thomas Jefferson: Notes on Virginia Q.XIII, 1782. ME 2:165
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Talk About a Coup: It Was Pelosi Who Pushed Milley to Act Against Trump
By Nick Arama | Sep 14, 2021 5:00 PM ET
There’s an incredible report that broke today about improper actions by Gen. Mark Milley after the Capitol riot.
According to the report, Milley tried to interfere with Trump’s ability to solely control a nuclear decision.
From CNN:
more
https://redstate.com/nick-arama/2021/09/14/talk-about-a-coup-it-was-pelosi-who-pushed-milley-to-act-against-trump-n442936
That sounds to me like swearing in co-conspirators.
The entire group should be removed from command and placed under arrest, especially if no one piped up. If they won't honor their oath to protect and defend the Constitution here at home, how can we expect them to honor it anywhere.
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That sounds to me like swearing in co-conspirators.
The entire group should be removed from command and placed under arrest, especially if no one piped up. If they won't honor their oath to protect and defend the Constitution here at home, how can we expect them to honor it anywhere.
:yowsa: The operative word being "should" I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for it.
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That sounds to me like swearing in co-conspirators.
The entire group should be removed from command and placed under arrest, especially if no one piped up. If they won't honor their oath to protect and defend the Constitution here at home, how can we expect them to honor it anywhere.
Everyone that was in that meeting that concurred with what Milley was ordering…service member and civilian alike…needs to either be courts martialed or arrested by the FBI.
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That sounds to me like swearing in co-conspirators.
The entire group should be removed from command and placed under arrest, especially if no one piped up. If they won't honor their oath to protect and defend the Constitution here at home, how can we expect them to honor it anywhere.
The truth is we are in a post constitutional state now. We've gone way past constitutional limits for some time now. We're just to the point they don't have to pretend anymore and it is in your face. There's no "legal controlling authority" to rein any of it in anymore which has been on display in the extreme for at least the last year.
There is either revolt or surrender left.
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Jack Posobiec 🇺🇸
@JackPosobiec
BREAKING: Several Pentagon officers present in Milley’s secret meeting are willing to testify against him under oath, per WH official
12:41 PM · Sep 14, 2021·Twitter for iPhone
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The truth is we are in a post constitutional state now. We've gone way past constitutional limits for some time now. We're just to the point they don't have to pretend anymore and it is in your face. There's no "legal controlling authority" to rein any of it in anymore which has been on display in the extreme for at least the last year.
There is either revolt or surrender left.
:yowsa: pointing-up
We are down to our last box now and I'm too old and worn out to be of much use in that.
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So what? They will never be presented an opportunity to do so. No different than what happened last November.
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So what? They will never be presented an opportunity to do so. No different than what happened last November.
They'll more likely be drummed out.
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https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1437894052880474115
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Kurt Schlichter
@KurtSchlichter
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So, the real insurrection was…Milley?
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https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1437900042182946822
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Lawyerforlaws
@lawyer4laws
This Is how a Real Coup works . .
A Coup is the military takeover of Government . .
6:19 PM · Sep 14, 2021·
Josh Kraushaar
@HotlineJosh
Bob Woodward: “Milley was overseeing the mobilization of America's national security state without the knowledge of the American people or the rest of the world.”
12:25 PM · Sep 14, 2021·
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Of course they will
KD WIllett
@KenWIllett8
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Jennifer Griffiths said Pentagon is pushing back..saying many of the statements are false.
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Richard Grenell
@RichardGrenell
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Ummmm, everyone knows Donald Trump was a President who brought troops home and didn’t start new wars.
Anyone pretending Trump wanted to start a war with China is delusional. #bobwoodward
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Ben Domenech
@bdomenech
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The idea that what the traitor Mark Milley was doing was supported by his colleagues - who today are turning on him en masse - is utter horseshit.
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https://twitter.com/JenGriffinFNC/status/1437906065073577986
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Wow. So he attempted to conduct a full coup.
That SOB!! 9999hair out0000 888mouth
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https://twitter.com/seanmdav/status/1437908645778448385
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https://twitter.com/seanmdav/status/1437907984328310784
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https://twitter.com/JordanSchachtel/status/1437909767352111107
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Jordan Schachtel @ dossier.substack.com
@JordanSchachtel
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And this is where Pelosi and the nuclear codes story comes in. The Pentagon + Dems got together and effectively stripped President Trump of his power. A military coup sanctioned by the Uniparty in D.C.
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https://twitter.com/seanmdav/status/1437896542892003328
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Sen. Marco Rubio Urges President Joe Biden to Fire Gen. Mark Milley
Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) has called for the resignation of General Mark Milley, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, following reports that he planned to undermine President Trump and inform China of an impending attack following the Capitol Hill riot on January 6.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/09/14/sen-marco-rubio-urges-president-joe-biden-to-fire-gen-mark-milley/
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https://twitter.com/jsolomonReports/status/1437906949631266818
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Seems we are in an era of non-stop bombshells.... What a day.
1st we have a congressional hearing that the sitting SOS told least 15 lies
2nd, we find out that a House Speakier- Military coup took place.
What's on the agenda tomorrow?
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Milley did what Al Haig did in 1981. He usurped the entire Chain of Command and essentially declared himself "in control of the American military".
Milley convened meetings with top military staff and informed them that although Trump was still 'technically' President, he (Milley) was the one calling the shots, and the only one allowed to give military directives and orders. Then he called on each one at the meeting to affirm his, and his alone, authority.
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Seems we are in an era of non-stop bombshells.... What a day.
1st we have a congressional hearing that the sitting SOS telling told least 15 lies
2nd, we find out that a House Speakier- Military coup took place.
What's on the agenda tomorrow?
Please ping me when someone does something about any of it!
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Joe Walsh
@WalshFreedom
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I don’t like what General Milley did. I’m troubled by what he did. But I’m damn glad he did what he did. And I will defend what he did.
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Biden overruled Blinken and Austin's attempts to extend US presence in Afghanistan, new Woodward/Costa book says
https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/14/politics/woodward-costa-book-biden-afghanistan/index.html?utm_source=twCNNi&utm_content=2021-09-14T23%3A02%3A05&utm_medium=social&utm_term=link
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Milley did what Al Haig did in 1981. He usurped the entire Chain of Command and essentially declared himself "in control of the American military".
Milley convened meetings with top military staff and informed them that although Trump was still 'technically' President, he (Milley) was the one calling the shots, and the only one allowed to give military directives and orders. Then he called on each one at the meeting to affirm his, and his alone, authority.
I’m old enough to remember when GEN (retired) Haig said that after the attempt on Reagan’s life. The left lost their collective mind over that and it cost Haig his job IIRC.
My how times have changed.
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Biden overruled Blinken and Austin's attempts to extend US presence in Afghanistan, new Woodward/Costa book says
https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/14/politics/woodward-costa-book-biden-afghanistan/index.html?utm_source=twCNNi&utm_content=2021-09-14T23%3A02%3A05&utm_medium=social&utm_term=link
Woodward, the new National Inquirer. Is his alien book next?
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I’m old enough to remember when GEN (retired) Haig said that after the attempt on Reagan’s life. The left lost their collective mind over that and it cost Haig his job IIRC.
My how times have changed.
100% correct. Haig was basically misquoted during a chaotic, troubling crisis. Miley/Pelosi pulled off a full blown coup.
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I’m old enough to remember when GEN (retired) Haig said that after the attempt on Reagan’s life. The left lost their collective mind over that and it cost Haig his job IIRC.
My how times have changed.
Same here. And at that point, Reagan was incapacitated. Trump was not.
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https://twitter.com/kylenabecker/status/1437915431663292417
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I agree, this is only the tip of the iceberg...
https://twitter.com/JoeConchaTV/status/1437916191658491905
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https://twitter.com/kylenabecker/status/1437916997585719297
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Removal?
Hell no....
Time to imprison and both Pelosi and him both.
Suddenly, I have a lot higher opinion of this guy.....
(https://media.heartlandtv.com/images/Richard+Barnett.jpg)
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https://twitter.com/seanmdav/status/1437896542892003328 (https://twitter.com/seanmdav/status/1437896542892003328)
He may have been blackmailed into the Afghanistan catastrophe and subsequent Chinese takeover.
Since the Chinese have more than enough dirt on Milley (and Biden, btw) to put him in prison for life, he would have to do whatever the Chinese tell him to do.
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Josh Rogin
@joshrogin
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Senior Trump admin national security official to me on Gen. Milley's reported secret calls to Chinese generals:
“It was dangerous for Mark Milley to be doing freelance diplomacy on China without involving any of the other senior officials dealing with China at the time..." 1/3
https://twitter.com/joshrogin/status/1437918843670827092
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Josh Rogin
@joshrogin
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Senior Trump admin national security official to me on Gen. Milley's reported secret calls to Chinese generals:
“It was dangerous for Mark Milley to be doing freelance diplomacy on China without involving any of the other senior officials dealing with China at the time..." 1/3
https://twitter.com/joshrogin/status/1437918843670827092
That’s putting it mildly, to put it mildly.
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https://twitter.com/WeWhoDieSaluteU/status/1437921228845617161
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https://twitter.com/SaraCarterDC/status/1437922484834160642
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Milley needs to be fired for subverting the chain of command. No good deed goes unpunished. The road to Hell is paved with good intentions.
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Stacey - FEMA Camp Region 4
@scotsfyre Follows You 37m
Pretty sure the WaPo story broke today because Milley will be the Afghanistan fall guy.He’s a politicized ass, but he is not in the chain of command. He will resign & we will still be led by stupid people who believe the Taliban care about joining the international community.
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Tucker covering this now
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Could this be a distraction? We all seem to be easily stampeded.
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Flag of United StatesCol. Rob Maness ret.
@RobManess
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Let’s be clear, America’s nuclear command and control system is the President’s civilian control over the military. Milley circumvented that system.
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I'll post the Tucker transcript/video when it goes up..
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It is telling that when Milley decided to usurp the CIC position, he started courting China and only China to give him the approval he was seeking. He did not call Russia, as far as we know now. He did not call Great Britain, as far as we know. He did not call Australia, Spain, Italy, Israel, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, or anyone else. His single consult and partner in his coup was China. Why China, and no one else? This deserves some questioning. What 'special connection' does Milley have with China? Obviously, there is something going on.
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https://twitter.com/RobManess/status/1437862133065297922
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https://twitter.com/RandPaul/status/1437936193333866501
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https://twitter.com/RandPaul/status/1437936426591604738
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John Cardillo
@johncardillo
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Milley sold us out to China, so of course Congressional Republicans are dead silent.
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Jeff Cunningham
@jeffrygc
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BREAKING: “Pelosi was distraught following the events in the Capitol that day and was screaming and demanded that General Milley take the nuclear football away from the President.”
Reporting from @JenGriffinFNC
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https://twitter.com/RealAdamK/status/1437936267916894214
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https://twitter.com/RobManess/status/1437940058170998788
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https://twitter.com/RealAdamK/status/1437936267916894214
That's really disappointing about Griffin. I always regarded her as a top notch National Security correspondent.
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https://twitter.com/1776Fightr/status/1437931831710601217
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https://twitter.com/realDailyWire/status/1437945649480097797
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It is telling that when Milley decided to usurp the CIC position, he started courting China and only China to give him the approval he was seeking. He did not call Russia, as far as we know now. He did not call Great Britain, as far as we know. He did not call Australia, Spain, Italy, Israel, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, or anyone else. His single consult and partner in his coup was China. Why China, and no one else? This deserves some questioning. What 'special connection' does Milley have with China? Obviously, there is something going on.
im afraid it’s not just Milley who considers China their supreme authority.
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https://twitter.com/seanmdav/status/1437946173353078786
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https://twitter.com/ColumbiaBugle/status/1437948277295620098
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"A well know fact that is seldom reported"...
That's a bit of oxymoron isn't it?
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Did not read the entire thread, 9 pages already.
However, it appear Seven Days in May was not a fiction story but a forecast of what was to come. I was a boy when I saw it, and to this day, I thought it was the most suspenseful movie I ever watched.
Milley and everyone involved should be indicted, convicted, and publicly dispatched. Now that would be justice. But the UGLY TRUTH reality is that the Dems just might put him up in 2024 to run for POTUS. Don't be surprised. Heck, the man that wanted to take out Trump. Biden got 81 million votes, Milley might just get 100 million with all the illegals flooding into the USA.
You think that sounds bizarre, well welcome to the Idiocracy!
:yowsa: :2popcorn:
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Did not read the entire thread, 9 pages already.
However, it appear Seven Days in May was not a fiction story but a forecast of what was to come. I was a boy when I saw it, and to this day, I thought it was the most suspenseful movie I ever watched.
Milley and everyone involved should be indicted, convicted, and publicly dispatched. Now that would be justice. But the UGLY TRUTH reality is that the Dems just might put him up in 2024 to run for POTUS. Don't be surprised. Heck, the man that wanted to take out Trump. Biden got 81 million votes, Milley might just get 100 million with all the illegals flooding into the USA.
You think that sounds bizarre, well welcome to the Idiocracy!
:yowsa: :2popcorn:
I guess we'd have to retitle it: Fourteen Days in January.
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Jeff Cunningham
@jeffrygc
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BREAKING: “Pelosi was distraught following the events in the Capitol that day and was screaming and demanded that General Milley take the nuclear football away from the President.”
Reporting from @JenGriffinFNC
So she suborned sedition. Remove her, too.
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So she suborned sedition. Remove her, too.
From your lips to God’s ears.
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"A well know fact that is seldom reported"...
That's a bit of oxymoron isn't it?
Not exactly. A fact could be well-known despite the media's failure to share it, that is, report it. I believe it was Tucker Carlson who noted last night that Trump is the first president since Carter not to start or get us into a war.
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TREASON! Top General Held SECRET Meeting and Pledged to the Chinese to Commit Treason in Order to Undermine Donald Trump
By
Admin
Published on September 15, 2021
According to “Peril,” a new book written by Bob Woodward, Joint Chiefs chairman Mark Milley committed treason. The book explains that Milley told China in ca secret phone conversation that he would notify them and give them advanced warning if the United States was going to attack.
The development, if true, is treason.
Check out what the Washington Post reported:
One call took place on Oct 30, 2020, four days before the election that unseated President Trump, and the other on Jan. 8, 2021, two days after the Capitol siege carried out by his supporters in a quest to cancel the vote.
The first call was prompted by Milley’s review of intelligence suggesting the Chinese believed the United States was preparing to attack.
“General Li, I want to assure you that the American government is stable and everything is going to be okay,” Milley told him. “We are not going to attack or conduct any kinetic operations against you.”
https://patriotalerts.com/2021/09/busted-top-general-held-secret-meeting-with-china/
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30-40 years ago, this would have been wall to wall news coverage and a national crisis. Sheesh, this country has stupid tatooed on its forehead now.
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So she suborned sedition. Remove her, too.
More like she facilitated and instigated the acts of sedition. She's truly a nasty piece of work.
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Funny what a month of news can do for one's opinion.
After January 6th, I considered the break in at the Capitol as a criminal act. Now? Not as much.
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Since Milley apparently developed his own personal secret communication system with China, there is no way to know what he discussed or negotiated with them. For example, everyone points to abandoning Bagram Air Base as an flawed, stupid, military action which has no rational explanation. Could this be something Milley negotiated with China on his own? Did Milley tell China that he was going to abandon the base with the expectation that China would take it over, which is happening now. Or did China order Milley to leave the base so they could take it unencumbered?
The point is, since Milley was reporting to China more that he was to the President of the United States, there is no way to know how long he has been doing this, what kind of 'deals' he made with them, and how much of America's military actions in Afghanistan were based on Chinese directives and goals.
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Since Milley apparently developed his own personal secret communication system with China, there is no way to know what he discussed or negotiated with them. For example, everyone points to abandoning Bagram Air Base as an flawed, stupid, military action which has no rational explanation. Could this be something Milley negotiated with China on his own? Did Milley tell China that he was going to abandon the base with the expectation that China would take it over, which is happening now. Or did China order Milley to leave the base so they could take it unencumbered?
The point is, since Milley was reporting to China more that he was to the President of the United States, there is no way to know how long he has been doing this, what kind of 'deals' he made with them, and how much of America's military actions in Afghanistan were based on Chinese directives and goals.
Good points.
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Since Milley apparently developed his own personal secret communication system with China, there is no way to know what he discussed or negotiated with them. For example, everyone points to abandoning Bagram Air Base as an flawed, stupid, military action which has no rational explanation. Could this be something Milley negotiated with China on his own? Did Milley tell China that he was going to abandon the base with the expectation that China would take it over, which is happening now. Or did China order Milley to leave the base so they could take it unencumbered?
The point is, since Milley was reporting to China more that he was to the President of the United States, there is no way to know how long he has been doing this, what kind of 'deals' he made with them, and how much of America's military actions in Afghanistan were based on Chinese directives and goals.
I was unaware that enemy combatant generals were even allowed to communicate. Naive me, I thought that "proper channels" always rrequired the State Department in these matters.
Hey Cruz, Paul, Rubio.... I hope you sharpening your knives for this mf'er.
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Since Milley apparently developed his own personal secret communication system with China, there is no way to know what he discussed or negotiated with them. For example, everyone points to abandoning Bagram Air Base as an flawed, stupid, military action which has no rational explanation. Could this be something Milley negotiated with China on his own? Did Milley tell China that he was going to abandon the base with the expectation that China would take it over, which is happening now. Or did China order Milley to leave the base so they could take it unencumbered?
The point is, since Milley was reporting to China more that he was to the President of the United States, there is no way to know how long he has been doing this, what kind of 'deals' he made with them, and how much of America's military actions in Afghanistan were based on Chinese directives and goals.
And thanks to a compliant media and Marxist Dems in Congress...Milley will be protected from any and all scrutiny and we will never know the full damage of what he did.
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I was unaware that enemy combatant generals were even allowed to communicate. Naive me, I thought that "proper channels" always rrequired the State Department in these matters.
Hey Cruz, Paul, Rubio.... I hope you sharpening your knives for this mf'er.
It's usually something that's set up via the SecDef's office. To do it back door without clearing it with his chain of command (Esper and Trump) is a no go.
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So why didn't Trump fire this guy?
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So why didn't Trump fire this guy?
Well, this bit of actual treason/insurrection wasn't known until Trump's term ended and he was out of office. Not really kosher to fire a guy after you're no longer the boss, is it?
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https://twitter.com/realDailyWire/status/1437945649480097797
Why does Trump get off scott free here? He was Milley's boss.
Truman fired MacArthur.
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Well, this bit of actual treason/insurrection wasn't known until Trump's term ended and he was out of office. Not really kosher to fire a guy after you're no longer the boss, is it?
Didn't this guy disobey Trump during the BLM riots? You would think Trump would pick up on resistance from this guy.
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Why does Trump get off scott free here? He was Milley's boss.
Truman fired MacArthur.
If Trump had known that Milley was cutting him off from control of the military, and was talking to the Chinese behind his back, Trump wouldn't have had any cause to fire him, now would he?
Trump didn't fire him because Trump didn't know what Milley was doing - that is kind of the point of a secret coup/insurrection plot, isn't it?
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Didn't this guy disobey Trump during the BLM riots? You would think Trump would pick up on resistance from this guy.
Tolerating pushback from subordinates is tantamount to condoning their treason/insurrection against you?
Really? TDS much?
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Tolerating pushback from subordinates is tantamount to condoning their treason/insurrection against you?
Really? TDS much?
@Weird Tolkienish Figure is hardly the TDS type.
Milley had already pushed back enough against his CINC during the BLM summer...Esper as well...for him to have fired both of them.
He's got a valid point and asks a legit question.
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An update: the level of anger at Gen. Milley on Capitol Hill is immeasurable. There is a strong belief he leaked this story himself. Veterans on Capitol Hill are discussing next actions. The agreed opinion is he must go, but that media sycophants will attempt to protect him.
— Ben Domenech (@bdomenech) September 14, 2021
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@Weird Tolkienish Figure is hardly the TDS type.
Milley had already pushed back enough against his CINC during the BLM summer...Esper as well...for him to have fired both of them.
He's got a valid point and asks a legit question.
Fair enough, except that getting pushback from a subordinate - unless it obviously implies treachery - should not be grounds for firing that subordinate. That leads to the boss being surrounded by lackeys and yes-men, and they can be even more treacherous than a subordinate who thinks for himself and pushes back on the boss'es ideas. What Milley did on Jan. 6 was to end-run the chain of command for his own political agenda, not simply push back on his superior from within the chain of command.
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Fair enough, except that getting pushback from a subordinate - unless it obviously implies treachery - should not be grounds for firing that subordinate. That leads to the boss being surrounded by lackeys and yes-men, and they can be even more treacherous than a subordinate who thinks for himself and pushes back on the boss'es ideas. What Milley did on Jan. 6 was to end-run the chain of command for his own political agenda, not simply push back on his superior from within the chain of command.
Ok, but you're speaking for Trump here. Trump needs to address this question. He's actually famous for firing people, so I doubt he was squeamish about it.
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Well, this bit of actual treason/insurrection wasn't known until Trump's term ended and he was out of office. Not really kosher to fire a guy after you're no longer the boss, is it?
The whole entire point of being a "spy", is to make sure nobody knows what you are doing. The only people Milley confided to were Pelosi, Schumer, China, and his staff at the pentagon. No doubt Pelosi and Schumer are doing the same thing, i.e., calling foreign leaders behind the President's back. China was popping champagne. And his staff were bullied and afraid for their jobs. Trump and his staff had no idea that any of this was happening, which is the entire goal of being a traitor and 'spying'.
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Ok, but you're speaking for Trump here. Trump needs to address this question. He's actually famous for firing people, so I doubt he was squeamish about it.
He's also famous for tolerating a lot more in-fighting and resistance within his staff than are most CEOs and Presidents. And Milley is not simply some 20-something trustafarian playing at being martyr in Antifa; he knows how to manipulate people and how to play the game - he would not have reached the position he has without being a consummate professional in that game - and so on balance Trump must have seen sufficient to keep him on.
If he had not, then he would likely have gotten the Scaramuchi treatment instead.
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Fair enough, except that getting pushback from a subordinate - unless it obviously implies treachery - should not be grounds for firing that subordinate. That leads to the boss being surrounded by lackeys and yes-men, and they can be even more treacherous than a subordinate who thinks for himself and pushes back on the boss'es ideas. What Milley did on Jan. 6 was to end-run the chain of command for his own political agenda, not simply push back on his superior from within the chain of command.
It's insubordination depending on how bad the push back and disrespect towards your boss is. And it sounds like Esper and Milley conspired to prevent Trump from implementing the insurrection act. That's ground for firing.
Any good leader should welcome an alternate course of action...to have it debated...modified or accepted or rejected depending on the circumstances. But there's a differences between push back with a suggestion for a different way to handle the situation that everyone agrees on and purposely subverting the chain of command and doing things behind the bosses back.
Esper did that to Trump once that we know of and we know now that Milley has done it at least three times.
It simply should have never come to that.
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It's insubordination depending on how bad the push back and disrespect towards your boss is. And it sounds like Esper and Milley conspired to prevent Trump from implementing the insurrection act. That's ground for firing.
Any good leader should welcome an alternate course of action...to have it debated...modified or accepted or rejected depending on the circumstances. But there's a differences between push back with a suggestion for a different way to handle the situation that everyone agrees on and purposely subverting the chain of command and doing things behind the bosses back.
Esper did that to Trump once that we know of and we know now that Milley has done it at least three times.
It simply should have never come to that.
Maybe so, nonetheless, convincing the boss to not implement the insurrection act is not the functional equivalent of end-running the boss himself and colluding with the Chinese.
Is Milley now blameless, because, well, he just couldn't help himself, and Trump should have been smart enough to have known that and to have fired him long ago?
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Most of these backstabbers only came out of the bushes after the election. Since Trump only had a few more days left in office, and was occupied with dealing with the obvious massive fraud employed by the Democrats and other players both foreign and domestic, for Trump to 'fire' anybody at that point would have been seen as petty and vindictive. Regardless of how overwhelmingly justified it may have been, it would have been reported as Trump 'lashing out' because of the election. By the time things came to light, it was too late for Trump to do anything about it. Again, which was the whole point. That was the plan all along.
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Is Milley now blameless, because, well, he just couldn't help himself, and Trump should have been smart enough to have known that and to have fired him long ago?
I don't hear anyone here saying or hinting at that.
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Funny what a month of news can do for one's opinion.
After January 6th, I considered the break in at the Capitol as a criminal act. Now? Not as much.
How can entering what belongs to you be a criminal act? Those buildings in D.C. belong to all of us! Our tax money bought and paid for every damned one of them!
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I was unaware that enemy combatant generals were even allowed to communicate. Naive me, I thought that "proper channels" always rrequired the State Department in these matters.
Hey Cruz, Paul, Rubio.... I hope you sharpening your knives for this mf'er.
I hate to be the bearer of bad news @catfish1957 but the fact is that those you name can do very little beyond making noise, criminal referals, and refusing to confirm any presidential appointments. Any REAL penalties will be imposed by our military courts under the UCMJ and or the Department of "Justice" in regular courts of law.
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How can entering what belongs to you be a criminal act? Those buildings in D.C. belong to all of us! Our tax money bought and paid for every damned one of them!
By the book?
At a minimum
Forced entry in HR offices for one.
Vandalization, breaking of windows, glass doors among other things
Theft of Federal property
At the time, I thought this was serious mistake for our side. This demonstration should have stopped at the Captiol Steps. But if you captured the crux of my post..... I am a lot more sympathetic to the particpants that day, with what has transpired in the past month.
It's the Biden government which is the one that has gone rogue.
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General Mark Milley Seems to Have Been the Source for Bob Woodward's Story About Mark Milley Undermining the Constitution
https://redstate.com/streiff/2021/09/15/general-mark-milley-seems-to-have-been-the-source-for-bob-woodwards-story-about-mark-milley-undermining-the-constitution-n443229
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I hate to be the bearer of bad news @catfish1957 but the fact is that those you name can do very little beyond making noise, criminal referals, and refusing to confirm any presidential appointments. Any REAL penalties will be imposed by our military courts under the UCMJ and or the Department of "Justice" in regular courts of law.
I understand that. That's the nuts and bolts have putting him away. He needs more than that. He needs a full blown public humiliation that will be the last lasting legacy of this treasonous bastard. Having him facing a televised tribuanl type of crucification is needed to provide a reminder to any other outlier, that this is unacceptable.
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By the book?
At a minimum
Forced entry in HR offices for one.
Vandalization, breaking of windows, glass doors among other things
Theft of Federal property
At the time, I thought this was serious mistake for our side. This demonstration should have stopped at the Captiol Steps. But if you captured the crux of my post..... I am a lot more sympathetic to the particpants that day, with what has transpired in the past month.
It's the Biden government which is the one that has gone rogue.
I hear you and understand what you are saying but I'm very afraid that taking our country back at this point is going to necessarily involve a hell of a lot more than entering buildings that already belong to us!
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I hear you and understand what you are saying but I'm very afraid that taking our country back at this point is going to necessarily involve a hell of a lot more than entering buildings that already belong to us!
No argument there. But I wonder if our side has enough fire in the belly for the fight. There is no going back afterwards.
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I don't hear anyone here saying or hinting at that.
That's good to know.
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https://twitter.com/IngrahamAngle/status/1438134313950892034
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Maybe so, nonetheless, convincing the boss to not implement the insurrection act is not the functional equivalent of end-running the boss himself and colluding with the Chinese.
Is Milley now blameless, because, well, he just couldn't help himself, and Trump should have been smart enough to have known that and to have fired him long ago?
If I had my druthers, I'd frog march him to the brig right now. But that's not how our system works.
I honestly hate the guy. But that's just me.
Time to have done something about Milley was during Trump's tenure. It's too late now, unless we can convince Biden to go after him, which is doubtful.
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If I had my druthers, I'd frog march him to the brig right now. But that's not how our system works.
I honestly hate the guy. But that's just me.
Time to have done something about Milley was during Trump's tenure. It's too late now, unless we can convince Biden to go after him, which is doubtful.
So we should just all STFU and like it?
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Milley had already pushed back enough against his CINC during the BLM summer...Esper as well...for him to have fired both of them.
We need to be careful not to rewrite history.
Everyone, including the DOJ, pushed back against using the Insurrection Act in the summer ol 2019. There is wide precedent that sending in the Army is triggered by a governor's request --- and, of course, there was none. Trump was limited to using this to protect federal land and buildings, which he did.
Had Trump fired Milley and/or Esper (and AG), each would have been subpoenaed as a witness for the prosecution in Impeachment I.
Trump was always boxing with one hand tied behind his back ---- which makes his accomplishments all the more remarkable.
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So we should just all STFU and like it?
No! That is the absolute last thing you should do! We should be raisin unshirted hell all over the place including with our employees in government.
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If I had my druthers, I'd frog march him to the brig right now. But that's not how our system works.
I honestly hate the guy. But that's just me.
Time to have done something about Milley was during Trump's tenure. It's too late now, unless we can convince Biden to go after him, which is doubtful.
Biden won't do anything because Milley is exactly the type of Flag Officer the Marxist Liberals want.
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Biden won't do anything because Milley is exactly the type of Flag Officer the Marxist Liberals want.
That and the fact that his CHICOM masters won't allow it. Both are on their payroll.
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Mark Levin:
https://youtu.be/_RXhrKrruWk
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https://twitter.com/RobManess/status/1438160468825235468
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Gregg Jarrett: Gen. Milley's alleged treachery and betrayal merit a court-martial (https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/gen-milley-treachery-betrayal-court-martial-gregg-jarrett)
If accurate, allegations in the Woodward and Costa book constitute court-martial offenses
Revelations about the conduct of Gen. Mark Milley, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, contained in a new book are beyond alarming. If accurate, they constitute court-martial offenses. If proven at trial, they merit conviction and imprisonment.
In a new book titled "Peril," Washington Post associate editor Bob Woodward and national political reporter Robert Costa describe in intimate detail conversations that Milley had with senior Pentagon officials, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, and a top general in the Chinese military toward the end of Trump’s presidency.
According to the book, Milley usurped the authority of the president as the elected civilian leader of the United States, sought to defy any order with which he disagreed, and inserted himself into a chain of command where he did not belong in order to arrogate power over the nation’s military operations and nuclear codes. But that’s not all...
More at headline link.
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https://twitter.com/RobManess/status/1438160468825235468
:yowsa: pointing-up
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We need to be careful not to rewrite history.
Everyone, including the DOJ, pushed back against using the Insurrection Act in the summer ol 2019. There is wide precedent that sending in the Army is triggered by a governor's request --- and, of course, there was none. Trump was limited to using this to protect federal land and buildings, which he did.
Had Trump fired Milley and/or Esper (and AG), each would have been subpoenaed as a witness for the prosecution in Impeachment I.
Trump was always boxing with one hand tied behind his back ---- which makes his accomplishments all the more remarkable.
Exactly!
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I think Miley didn't think this thing though in its entirety. In his convoluted mind he thought he was a patriot, when in essence by the book he was committing treason. When the chips start falling, it is going to be interesting how this thing plays out between him and Woodward.
Fact is, one of them is going to lose.... Whether it is Miley's freedom, or Woodwards credibility (permanently). Couldn't happen to a better pair of turds.
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Rand Paul Urges Milley to Take Polygraph — ‘Immediately Needs to Be Removed’ if China Talks Confirmed
Trent Baker 15 Sep 2021
Wednesday, Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) reacted to a report that General Mark Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, called his Chinese counterpart General Li Zuocheng multiple times and told him that he would warn him ahead of any military action.
Paul told FNC’s “Fox & Friends” that Milley should be investigated “immediately” and called on him to take a polygraph test. Paul added that if the report is true, Milley needed “to be immediately removed of his command.” He added that if true, Milley’s actions were “treasonous.”
“It should be investigated immediately, today,” Paul declared. “He should be questioned under oath, if not with a polygraph test whether it happened. If it happened, he should be immediately relieved of his duties and court-martialed. You have to find out if it’s true. This is innuendo and rumor, propaganda perhaps, but if it is true, [he] absolutely immediately needs to be removed. We have elections. We can’t have generals overturning elections. That’s what we have always criticized in authoritarian regimes where the military takes over. This is very, very dangerous, and if this happened, Milley needs to be immediately removed of his command.”
“[He] should be immediately ordered into a room for an interview, not just a press interview, for an interview, with polygraph, which we do often for our intelligence officials, and he needs to be asked, did you call the Chinese government in defiance to your command? Did you warn them or insinuate to them that the president might attack them? That’s incredibly dangerous to the country, to the world, and if true, treasonous,” the senator concluded.
more
https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2021/09/15/rand-paul-urges-milley-to-take-polygraph-immediately-needs-to-be-removed-if-china-talks-confirmed/
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https://twitter.com/TrumpJew2/status/1438163003053166594
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Mark Meadows
@MarkMeadows
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General Milley needs to answer questions immediately—under oath—about whether he subverted a sitting President of the United States and colluded with an adversary. Not tomorrow. Not eventually. Immediately.
If it’s true, firings and resignations should be just the start.
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More than courts martial or polygraph,
he should be interrogated by military intelligence to find out exactly what he told the Chinese about U.S. military readiness and capabilities especially concerning nuclear weapons.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/nypost/status/1438157602731565065
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More than courts martial or polygraph,
he should be interrogated by military intelligence to find out exactly what he told the Chinese about U.S. military readiness and capabilities especially concerning nuclear weapons.
:yowsa: That should be the first order of business!
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https://twitter.com/JesseKellyDC/status/1438163098662277123
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https://twitter.com/JesseKellyDC/status/1438163098662277123
I am still inclined to think that Mr. Trump (as he is now) should not run again in 2024; on the other hand, a ticket of Trump and Gen. Flynn might be what is needed now.
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I am still inclined to think that Mr. Trump (as he is now) should not run again in 2024; on the other hand, a ticket of Trump and Gen. Flynn might be what is needed now.
If that were to become the Republican ticket in 2024 I'll assure you that Heaven and Earth would be moved to prevent their election. IF they somehow got elected despite those headwinds full scale war would ensue.
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If that were to become the Republican ticket in 2024 I'll assure you that Heaven and Earth would be moved to prevent their election. IF they somehow got elected despite those headwinds full scale war would ensue.
You know it. There will some major manufactured crisis that will dictate Marshall Law. I mean think about it.... We are hurling toward CWII anyway.
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https://twitter.com/IngrahamAngle/status/1438176237361508354
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A civil war would not be internal to America only. Foreign powers worldwide would become involved just like the last one. And like last time they will all try to carve out their own piece of territory.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/IngrahamAngle/status/1438134313950892034
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https://mobile.twitter.com/RealPatriot56/status/1437831256838918146
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https://twitter.com/TrumpJew2/status/1438180915444948994
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Lucas Tomlinson
@LucasFoxNews
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Pentagon: Gen. Milley “regularly communicates” with foreign counterparts “including with China and Russia. These conversations remain vital to…U.S. national security interests, reducing tensions, providing clarity and avoiding unintended consequences or conflict.”
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https://twitter.com/Mediaite/status/1438186469886136326
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https://twitter.com/ArthurSchwartz/status/1438185322890862592
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https://twitter.com/charliekirk11/status/1438186450873290752
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Lucas Tomlinson
@LucasFoxNews
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Pentagon: Gen. Milley “regularly communicates” with foreign counterparts “including with China and Russia. These conversations remain vital to…U.S. national security interests, reducing tensions, providing clarity and avoiding unintended consequences or conflict.”
Was he doing that under Trump? Did Trump authorize him to do those things? If not Courts martial should be forthcoming REAL soon!
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Psaki...Biden has complete confidence in Milley... *****rollingeyes*****
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Philip Melanchthon Wegmann
@PhilipWegmann
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The @PressSec
brushes back Republican calls for Milley to resign by saying Biden isn't looking "for the guidance of members of Congress who stood by" while Trump "fomented insurrection and many of them were silent."
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Kate Sullivan
@KateSullivanDC
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Jen Psaki says Biden has “complete confidence” in Joint Chiefs Chairman Gen. Mark Milley’s “leadership, his patriotism and his fidelity to our Constitution.”
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Philip Melanchthon Wegmann
@PhilipWegmann
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1m
The @PressSec
brushes back Republican calls for Milley to resign by saying Biden isn't looking "for the guidance of members of Congress who stood by" while Trump "fomented insurrection and many of them were silent."
One of these days that stupid B^%ch is likely to find out what an actual insurrection looks like!
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Rick Klein
@rickklein
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"This president has no intention of fomenting unrest or an insurrection," @PressSec
says.
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https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1438188703982174216
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Curtis Houck
@CurtisHouck
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Shorter Psaki: Hey, so what if Milley cozied up to China!? At least he didn't "foment an insurrection!"
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https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1438188703982174216
Lies. Simple, flat-out lies.
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Charlie Spiering
@charliespiering
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More Jen Psaki support for Milley: "He knows General Milley and he's worked beside him for the last nearly eight months and that's what gives the president confidence in him."
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Nothing to see here..just move along..
It will be interesting when Woodward hits the book selling tour and all the interviews...
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https://twitter.com/Shem_Infinite/status/1438181924493840384
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https://twitter.com/SebGorka/status/1438190699179089935
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https://twitter.com/TheFirstonTV/status/1438190842364243969
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Elizabeth Crisp
@elizabethcrisp
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24m
Just now in WH briefing, @PressSec
on Milley-China calls called stories “anonymous unconfirmed reports about conversations with limited context.” She said POTUS “has complete confidence in his leadership, his patriotism and his fidelity to our Constitution.”
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https://twitter.com/jseldin/status/1438184732093816833
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Question: So, what did Dave Butler do with this clear case of treasonous activity on Milley's part? He had a clear duty to act.
Answer: Under the UCMJ, failure to report crimes you have direct knowledge of is also an offence.
The ONLY question remaining is "Were the calls made by Milley authorized by his boss President Trump." If they were not, Milley and everyone in the military who had/has direct knowledge of his activities and did nothing should be in big trouble.
I'm not holding MY breath!
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https://twitter.com/Shem_Infinite/status/1438181924493840384 (https://twitter.com/Shem_Infinite/status/1438181924493840384)
If this is true, then why is the WH and Intelligence shredding and burning the transcripts as we speak.
If it was all normal and routine, then show us the transcripts.
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The gravamen of the issue here isn't that Milley spoke with the Chinese - no doubt there are protocols in place for regular contacts between superior officers in the U.S., Russia, China, etc. - and it isn't that Milley had a meeting with other high officers in the U.S. at which the protocols for the use of nuclear weapons were restated to make sure all were clear on them.
The gravamen of the issue here is that Milley colluded and conspired with Pelosi, and undoubtedly others, to improperly and illegally remove the sitting President - President Trump - from the chain of command for nuclear weapons (and perhaps in general), in violation of well-established rules for when and how the President can be removed, and he then utilized the meetings with other senior U.S. officers to implement that conspiracy, and conveyed the fact of the conspiracy and its success to the Chinese (along with who knows what else).
That is the gravamen here: the conspiracy/collusion between a senior military officer and a political opponent of the President to illegally and improperly interfere with the President's Constitutional authority as Commander-in-Chief.
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https://twitter.com/RobManess/status/1438192989411725312
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Jennifer Griffin's reporting is not to be trusted..she seems to be reporting only the CYA comments from the Pentagon...
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https://twitter.com/dcexaminer/status/1438193506565201922
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*gravamen*...never heard of that term..had to look it up!
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https://twitter.com/TrumpJew2/status/1438163003053166594 (https://twitter.com/TrumpJew2/status/1438163003053166594)
How long has Milley been communicating with Top Chinese Officials acting on his own volition without informing the President, the State Department, or the Intelligence Agencies?
Why does Milley have such affection and concern for the welfare of the CCP over and above his concern for The United States of America? It may be ideological, but still, someone needs to check for financial transactions involving Milley worldwide.
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*gravamen*...never heard of that term..had to look it up!
Sorry. sometimes I like to use fancy-pantsy words.
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https://twitter.com/ConceptualJames/status/1438193737788710924
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Sorry. sometimes I like to use fancy-pantsy words.
Well I learned a new word and will look for ways to use it myself..lol
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The gravamen of the issue here isn't that Milley spoke with the Chinese - no doubt there are protocols in place for regular contacts between superior officers in the U.S., Russia, China, etc. - and it isn't that Milley had a meeting with other high officers in the U.S. at which the protocols for the use of nuclear weapons were restated to make sure all were clear on them.
The gravamen of the issue here is that Milley colluded and conspired with Pelosi, and undoubtedly others, to improperly and illegally remove the sitting President - President Trump - from the chain of command for nuclear weapons (and perhaps in general), in violation of well-established rules for when and how the President can be removed, and he then utilized the meetings with other senior U.S. officers to implement that conspiracy, and conveyed the fact of the conspiracy and its success to the Chinese (along with who knows what else).
That is the gravamen here: the conspiracy/collusion between a senior military officer and a political opponent of the President to illegally and improperly interfere with the President's Constitutional authority as Commander-in-Chief.
I mostly agree @Kamaji but even if there are protocols in place, the SUBSTANCE of any such calls must be approved by the CIC.
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I mostly agree @Kamaji but even if there are protocols in place, the SUBSTANCE of any such calls must be approved by the CIC.
I agree, and giving the Chinese counterpart assurances that there will be no surprise attack goes beyond what I would expect to be the typical sort of communication on these calls. If it was an ordinary call, not requiring special review, there would be no need to give "special assurances". On the other hand, if "special assurances" were given, that conversation should have been approved by the CinC.
As I said, the crux of the issue is not that conversations were had, but the purpose of those conversations and the tenor of what was conveyed in those conversations.
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If this is true, then why is the WH and Intelligence shredding and burning the transcripts as we speak.
If it was all normal and routine, then show us the transcripts.
If he has admitted to it, who, when, where, and why hasn't the cuffs beens slapped on. If this isn't a "court martial" jailable offense, then what is?
Oh.... quoting the Biden family mantra probably.... Plausible Deniability
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https://twitter.com/dcexaminer/status/1438193506565201922 (https://twitter.com/dcexaminer/status/1438193506565201922)
If one goes down, they all go down. Expect everyone in Washington D.C. involved in Foreign Relations, Intelligence, or the Military to come out swinging for Milley. They are not protecting him; they are protecting themselves.
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If one goes down, they all go down. Expect everyone in Washington D.C. involved in Foreign Relations, Intelligence, or the Military to come out swinging for Milley. They are not protecting him; they are protecting themselves.
Make that bigger so everyone can see it!
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If one goes down, they all go down. Expect everyone in Washington D.C. involved in Foreign Relations, Intelligence, or the Military to come out swinging for Milley. They are not protecting him; they are protecting themselves.
Very good point.
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https://twitter.com/goodblackdude/status/1438204816715509760
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https://twitter.com/JR45037747/status/1438192110423851010
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Pentagon Confirms Milley Conversations with Chinese Counterpart, Other Uniformed Leaders on Nukes
A spokesman for the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Army Gen. Mark Milley on Wednesday confirmed some allegations contained in a new book that the chairman, allegedly fearing then-President Donald Trump would order a nuclear strike, had a meeting with other uniformed leaders and two phone calls with his Chinese counterpart.
more
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/09/15/pentagon-confirms-milley-conversations-with-chinese-counterpart-other-uniformed-leaders-on-nukes/
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Behar: ‘God Bless General Milley’ — Trump Was ‘Certifiable Nut Case’
Joy Behar told her co-hosts Wednesday on ABC’s “The View” that former President Donald Trump was “a certifiable nut case” while reacting to reports on Bob Woodward and Robert Costa upcoming book’s claim Gen. Mark Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, took steps to prevent Trump from launching nuclear weapons and called his counterpart in China.
https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2021/09/15/behar-god-bless-general-milley-trump-was-certifiable-nut-case/
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https://twitter.com/RobManess/status/1438191954085486594
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I've contacted my congresscritters asking that Miley hearings be held on an emergency basis, and let this testimony be added to record for the UCMJ trial.
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Behar: ‘God Bless General Milley’ — Trump Was ‘Certifiable Nut Case’
Joy Behar told her co-hosts Wednesday on ABC’s “The View” that former President Donald Trump was “a certifiable nut case” while reacting to reports on Bob Woodward and Robert Costa upcoming book’s claim Gen. Mark Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, took steps to prevent Trump from launching nuclear weapons and called his counterpart in China.
https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2021/09/15/behar-god-bless-general-milley-trump-was-certifiable-nut-case/
If President Trump was, in fact, a "certifiable nutcase" then why didn't Milley, Pelosi, and the other conspirators use the approved mechanisms for removing a disabled president from power? Why didn't they start proceedings under the 25th Amendment? Instead, they jumped straight to conspiring to cut President Trump out of the chain of command on nuclear weapons (and maybe other weapons or forces), effectuated that conspiracy by ensuring that the chain of command below Milley knew that Milley was "in charge", and then conveying the fact of the conspiracy and its success to the Chinese.
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Everybody and their grandma told Trump Milley was 'Bad News'. He hired him anyway and fired the two Men against this appointment
the most~Mattis and Tillerson.
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Behar: ‘God Bless General Milley’ — Trump Was ‘Certifiable Nut Case’
Trump was a certifiable nut! - Behar
Biden is the essence of serious, intelligent leadership. - Behar
Just to let everyone know her twisted judgement of reality. The most condemning fact is that she does not realize even in the smallest way, that she is more of a certifiable nutcase than Biden. In her warped disturbed mind, she considers herself to be the epitome of intelligence and righteousness, enlightenment, and virtue. That alone should disqualify her from judging others.
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https://twitter.com/realDailyWire/status/1438218838324117505
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Trump Appoints Gen. Mark Milley Chairman Of The Joint Chiefs Of Staff
SHANNON VAN SANT
December 8, 2018 9:41 AM ET
Chief of Staff of the Army Gen. Mark Milley will become the next chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
President Trump made the announcement via Twitter on Saturday.
"I am pleased to announce my nomination of four-star Gen. Mark Milley, Chief of Staff of the United States Army — as the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, replacing General Joe Dunford, who will be retiring," Trump wrote. "I am thankful to both of these incredible men for their service to our Country! Date of transition to be determined."
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https://www.npr.org/2018/12/08/674930438/trump-appoints-general-mark-milley-chairman-of-the-joint-chiefs-of-staff
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One thing Trump has which no one can argue about is, Trump has an uncanny, almost supernatural gift for picking the absolute worse people alive to work for him. Almost every single person he appointed turned out to be a traitor to him. Whether to the Democrat Party, the MSM, or now even working for China, Trump's touted knack for "picking only the best" was incredibly wrong. The opposite was true. Trump picked only the worst for some inexplicable reason, and they all stabbed him in the back.
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Jack Posobiec 🇺🇸
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Weird how Milley called China even though the country Trump did bomb twice was Syria. But that raises other questions
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Ryan Fournier
@RyanAFournier
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The Pentagon continues to say it's normal for the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs to speak with other military leaders.
This isn't the problem. It's what was said on the call that's the problem.
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Col. Rob Maness ret. Retweeted
Flag of United StatesCol. Rob Maness ret.
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McClellan was fired. MacArthur was fired. #Milley must be fired and court martialed @POTUS
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https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1438212163521363972
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Reporters asking for transcripts of Milley's conversations with China...Kirby says no
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https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1438221419310194694
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Reporters asking for transcripts of Milley's conversations with China...Kirby says no
On one hand they say the calls were normal and routine. On the other, they say they will not release the transcripts to show that.
They can say NO to reporters, but I doubt they will be able to say NO to Congress or the Courts.
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Gen Keane says these are responsible actions by Milley re the phone calls....WTH
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https://twitter.com/IngrahamAngle/status/1438134313950892034
IMHO, anyone China has dirt on is compromised and should be far from the reins of power and anything we have left that is classified and not already in enemy hands. I would wager the list is long and pervasive and includes people on both sides of the aisle, in appointed and elected and hireling positions.
We need to clean house, and that list would be unbelievably extensive.
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If I had my druthers, I'd frog march him to the brig right now. But that's not how our system works.
I honestly hate the guy. But that's just me.
Time to have done something about Milley was during Trump's tenure. It's too late now, unless we can convince Biden to go after him, which is doubtful.
Treason has no statute of limitations.
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KT McFarland....Milley is a political General...and this is a very serious accusation and if true should be CM
Milley did not relay any info to Pres Trump about conversation
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Rep. Jody Hice
@CongressmanHice
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RELEASE THE MILLEY/CHINA TRANSCRIPTS!
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IMHO, anyone China has dirt on is compromised and should be far from the reins of power and anything we have left that is classified and not already in enemy hands. I would wager the list is long and pervasive and includes people on both sides of the aisle, in appointed and elected and hireling positions.
We need to clean house, and that list would be unbelievably extensive.
You'd clean out almost all of the Marxist Dems on the Left Coast and for sure you'd take out the GOP Senate Minority Leader...which isn't a bad thing either.
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Why wouldn't they..for the most part they are all traitors...and have sold out their country one way or the other.
https://twitter.com/rustyweiss74/status/1438224986725130244
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KT McFarland....Milley is a political General...and this is a very serious accusation and if true should be CM
Milley did not relay any info to Pres Trump about conversation
If Milley made calls and/or said anything he was not specifically authorized by the CIC to he SHOULD be in big trouble!
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In all Fairness, it got underway 8 years before Trump even got there and the damage was already done.
List Of Military Elite Purged And Fired Under Obama
Compiled By General Paul Vallely
3-17-14
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Throughout world history, whatever comes next after a military purge is never good.
If this continues, what is the U.S. military going to look like in a few years?
Perhaps you are reading this and you think that 'purge' is too strong a word for what is taking place. Well, justconsider the following quotes from some very highly decorated retired officers:
-Retired Army Major General Paul Vallely:The White House protects their own.That's why they stalled on the investigation into fast and furious, Benghazi and Obamacare.He's intentionally weakening and gutting our military, Pentagon and reducing us as a superpower, and anyone in the ranks who disagrees or speaks out is being purged.
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https://rense.com/general96/listof.html (https://rense.com/general96/listof.html)
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Lest anyone think Trump wasn't hamstrung by the actions of his immediate predecessor! @sneakypete
· General John R. Allen-U.S. Marines Commander International Security Assistance Force [ISAF] (Nov 2012)
· Major General Ralph Baker (2 Star)-U.S. Army Commander of the Combined Joint Task Force Horn in Africa (April 2013)
· Major General Michael Carey (2 Star)-U.S. Air Force Commander of the 20th US Air Force in charge of 9,600 people and 450 Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles (Oct 2013)
· Colonel James Christmas-U.S. Marines Commander 22nd Marine Expeditionary Unit & Commander Special-Purpose Marine Air-Ground Task Force Crisis Response Unit (July 2013)
· Major General Peter Fuller-U.S. Army Commander in Afghanistan (May 2011)
· Major General Charles M.M. Gurganus-U.S. Marine Corps Regional Commander of SW and I Marine Expeditionary Force in Afghanistan (Oct 2013)
· General Carter F. Ham-U.S. Army African Command (Oct 2013)
· Lieutenant General David H. Huntoon (3 Star), Jr.-U.S. Army 58th Superintendent of the US Military Academy at West Point, NY (2013)
· Command Sergeant Major Don B Jordan-U.S. Army 143rd Expeditionary Sustainment Command (suspended Oct 2013)
· General James Mattis-U.S. Marines Chief of CentCom (May 2013)
· Colonel Daren Margolin-U.S. Marine in charge of Quantico's Security Battalion (Oct 2013)
· General Stanley McChrystal-U.S. Army Commander Afghanistan (June 2010)
· General David D. McKiernan-U.S. Army Commander Afghanistan (2009)
· General David Petraeus-Director of CIA from September 2011 to November 2012 & U.S. Army Commander International Security Assistance Force [ISAF] and Commander U.S. Forces Afghanistan [USFOR-A] (Nov 2012)
· Brigadier General Bryan Roberts-U.S. Army Commander 2nd Brigade (May 2013)
· Major General Gregg A. Sturdevant-U.S. Marine Corps Director of Strategic Planning and Policy for the U.S. Pacific Command & Commander of Aviation Wing at Camp Bastion, Afghanistan (Sept 2013)
· Colonel Eric Tilley-U.S. Army Commander of Garrison Japan (Nov 2013)
· Brigadier General Bryan Wampler-U.S. Army Commanding General of 143rd Expeditionary Sustainment Command of the 1st Theater Sustainment Command [TSC] (suspended Oct 2013)
Commanding Admirals fired:
· Rear Admiral Charles Gaouette-U.S. Navy Commander John C. Stennis Carrier Strike Group Three (Oct 2012)
· Vice Admiral Tim Giardina(3 Star, demoted to 2 Star)-U.S. Navy Deputy Commander of the US Strategic Command, Commander of the Submarine Group Trident, Submarine Group 9 and Submarine Group 10 (Oct 2013)
Naval Officers fired: (All in 2011)
· Captain David Geisler-U.S. Navy Commander Task Force 53 in Bahrain (Oct 2011)
· Commander Laredo Bell-U.S. Navy Commander Naval Support Activity Saratoga Springs, NY (Aug 2011)
· Lieutenant Commander Kurt Boenisch-Executive Officer amphibious transport dock Ponce (Apr 2011)
· Commander Nathan Borchers-U.S. Navy Commander destroyer Stout (Mar 2011)
· Commander Robert Brown-U.S. Navy Commander Beachmaster Unit 2 Fort Story, VA (Aug 2011)
· Commander Andrew Crowe-Executive Officer Navy Region Center Singapore (Apr 2011)
· Captain Robert Gamberg-Executive Officer carrier Dwight D. Eisenhower (Jun 2011)
· Captain Rex Guinn-U.S. Navy Commander Navy Legal Service office Japan (Feb 2011)
· Commander Kevin Harms- U.S. Navy Commander Strike Fighter Squadron 137 aboard the aircraft carrier Abraham Lincoln (Mar 2011)
· Lieutenant Commander Martin Holguin-U.S. Navy Commander mine countermeasures Fearless (Oct 2011)
· Captain Owen Honors-U.S. Navy Commander aircraft carrier USS Enterprise (Jan 2011)
· Captain Donald Hornbeck-U.S. Navy Commander Destroyer Squadron 1 San Diego
(Apr 2011)
· Rear Admiral Ron Horton-U.S. Navy Commander Logistics Group, Western Pacific
(Mar 2011)
· Commander Etta Jones-U.S. Navy Commander amphibious transport dock Ponce (Apr 2011)
· Commander Ralph Jones-Executive Officer amphibious transport dock Green Bay (Jul 2011)
· Commander Jonathan Jackson-U.S. Navy Commander Electronic Attack Squadron 134, deployed aboard carrier Carl Vinson (Dec 2011)
· Captain Eric Merrill-U.S. Navy Commander submarine Emory S. Land (Jul 2011)
· Captain William Mosk-U.S. Navy Commander Naval Station Rota, U.S. Navy Commander Naval Activities Spain (Apr 2011)
· Commander Timothy Murphy-U.S. Navy Commander Electronic Attack Squadron 129 at Naval Air Station Whidbey Island, WA (Apr 2011)
· Commander Joseph Nosse-U.S. Navy Commander ballistic-missile submarine Kentucky (Oct 2011)
· Commander Mark Olson-U.S. Navy Commander destroyer The Sullivans FL (Sep 2011)
· Commander John Pethel-Executive Officer amphibious transport dock New York (Dec 2011)
· Commander Karl Pugh-U.S. Navy Commander Electronic Attack Squadron 141 Whidbey Island, WA (Jul 2011)
· Commander Jason Strength-U.S. Navy Commander of Navy Recruiting District Nashville, TN (Jul 2011)
· Captain Greg Thomas-U.S. Navy Commander Norfolk Naval Shipyard (May 2011)
· Commander Mike Varney-U.S. Navy Commander attack submarine Connecticut (Jun 2011)
· Commander Jay Wylie-U.S. Navy Commander destroyer Momsen (Apr 2011)
Naval Officers fired: (All in 2012):
· Commander Alan C. Aber-Executive Officer Helicopter Maritime Strike Squadron 71 (July 2012)
· Commander Derick Armstrong- U.S. Navy Commander missile destroyer USS The Sullivans (May 2012)
· Commander Martin Arriola- U.S. Navy Commander destroyer USS Porter (Aug 2012)
· Captain Antonio Cardoso- U.S. Navy Commander Training Support Center San Diego (Sep 2012)
· Captain James CoBell- U.S. Navy Commander Oceana Naval Air Station's Fleet Readiness Center Mid-Atlantic (Sep 2012)
· Captain Joseph E. Darlak- U.S. Navy Commander frigate USS Vandegrift (Nov 2012)
· Captain Daniel Dusek-U.S. Navy Commander USS Bonhomme
· Commander David Faught-Executive Officer destroyer Chung-Hoon (Sep 2012)
· Commander Franklin Fernandez- U.S. Navy Commander Naval Mobile Construction Battalion 24 (Aug 2012)
· Commander Ray Hartman- U.S. Navy Commander Amphibious dock-landing ship Fort McHenry (Nov 2012)
· Commander Shelly Hakspiel-Executive Officer Navy Drug Screening Lab San Diego (May 2012)
· Commander Jon Haydel- U.S. Navy Commander USS San Diego (Mar 2012)
· Commander Diego Hernandez- U.S. Navy Commander ballistic-missile submarine USS Wyoming (Feb 2012)
· Commander Lee Hoey- U.S. Navy Commander Drug Screening Laboratory, San Diego (May 2012)
· Commander Ivan Jimenez-Executive Officer frigate Vandegrift (Nov 2012)
· Commander Dennis Klein- U.S. Navy Commander submarine USS Columbia (May 2012)
· Captain Chuck Litchfield- U.S. Navy Commander assault ship USS Essex (Jun 2012)
· Captain Marcia Kim Lyons- U.S. Navy Commander Naval Health Clinic New England (Apr 2012)
· Captain Robert Marin- U.S. Navy Commander cruiser USS Cowpens (Feb 2012)
· Captain Sean McDonell- U.S. Navy Commander Seabee reserve unit Naval Mobile Construction Battalion 14 FL (Nov 2012)
· Commander Corrine Parker- U.S. Navy Commander Fleet Logistics Support Squadron 1 (Apr 2012)
· Captain Liza Raimondo- U.S. Navy Commander Naval Health Clinic Patuxent River, MD (Jun 2012)
· Captain Jeffrey Riedel- Program manager, Littoral Combat Ship program (Jan 2012)
· Commander Sara Santoski- U.S. Navy Commander Helicopter Mine Countermeasures Squadron 15 (Sep 2012)
· Commander Kyle G. Strudthoff-Executive Officer Helicopter Sea Combat Squadron 25 (Sep 2012)
· Commander Sheryl Tannahill- U.S. Navy Commander Navy Operational Support Center [NOSC] Nashville, TN (Sep 2012)
· Commander Michael Ward- U.S. Navy Commander submarine USS Pittsburgh (Aug 2012)
· Captain Michael Wiegand- U.S. Navy Commander Southwest Regional Maintenance Center (Nov 2012)
· Captain Ted Williams- U.S. Navy Commander amphibious command ship Mount Whitney (Nov 2012)
· Commander Jeffrey Wissel- U.S. Navy Commander of Fleet Air Reconnaissance Squadron 1 (Feb 2012)
Naval Officers fired: (All in 2013):
· Lieutenant Commander Lauren Allen-Executive Officer submarine Jacksonville (Feb 2013)
· Reserve Captain Jay Bowman-U.S. Navy Commander Navy Operational Support Center [NOSC] Fort Dix, NJ (Mar 2013)
· Captain William Cogar-U.S. Navy Commander hospital ship Mercy's medical treatment facility (Sept 2013)
· Commander Steve Fuller-Executive Officer frigate Kauffman (Mar 2013)
· Captain Shawn Hendricks-Program Manager for naval enterprise IT networks (June 2013)
· Captain David Hunter-U.S. Navy Commander of Maritime Expeditionary Security Squadron 12 & Coastal Riverine Group 2 (Feb 2013)
· Captain Eric Johnson-U.S. Navy Chief of Military Entrance Processing Command at Great Lakes Naval Training Center, IL (2013)
· Captain Devon Jones-U.S. Navy Commander Naval Air Facility El Centro, CA (July 2013)
· Captain Kevin Knoop-U.S. Navy Commander hospital ship Comfort's medical treatment facility (Aug 2013)
· Lieutenant Commander Jack O'Neill-U.S. Navy Commander Operational Support Center Rock Island, IL (Mar 2013)
· Commander Allen Maestas-Executive Officer Beachmaster Unit 1 (May 2013)
· Commander Luis Molina-U.S. Navy Commander submarine Pasadena (Jan 2013)
· Commander James Pickens-Executive Officer frigate Gary (Feb 2013)
· Lieutenant Commander Mark Rice-U.S. Navy Commander Mine Countermeasures ship Guardian (Apr 2013)
· Commander Michael Runkle-U.S. Navy Commander of Mobile Diving and Salvage Unit 2 (May 2013)
· Commander Jason Stapleton-Executive Office Patrol Squadron 4 in Hawaii (Mar 2013)
· Commander Nathan Sukols-U.S. Navy Commander submarine Jacksonville (Feb 2013)
· Lieutenant Daniel Tyler-Executive Officer Mine Countermeasures ship Guardian (Apr 2013)
· Commander Edward White-U.S. Navy Commander Strike Fighter Squadron 106 (Aug 2013)
· Captain Jeffrey Winter-U.S. Navy Commander of Carrier Air Wing 17 (Sept 2013)
· Commander Thomas Winter-U.S. Navy Commander submarine Montpelier (Jan 2013)
· Commander Corey Wofford- U.S. Navy Commander frigate Kauffman (Feb 2013)
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I've been looking for this @corbe Thanks for digging it up!
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Sean Davis
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It should surprise no one that the corrupt Pentagon, which murdered an aid worker and his family and lied about it because Joe Biden was having a bad news cycle, has no problem with an incompetent fat general secretly promising to give American battle plans to communist China.
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https://twitter.com/RealKyleMorris/status/1438206602092457993
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https://twitter.com/Mediaite/status/1438229681564786692
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How much weirder is it going to get? It seems like there is no end in sight...
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https://twitter.com/AmerMilNews/status/1437825222930059271
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:beer: @Bigun
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The gravamen of the issue here isn't that Milley spoke with the Chinese - no doubt there are protocols in place for regular contacts between superior officers in the U.S., Russia, China, etc. - and it isn't that Milley had a meeting with other high officers in the U.S. at which the protocols for the use of nuclear weapons were restated to make sure all were clear on them.
The gravamen of the issue here is that Milley colluded and conspired with Pelosi, and undoubtedly others, to improperly and illegally remove the sitting President - President Trump - from the chain of command for nuclear weapons (and perhaps in general), in violation of well-established rules for when and how the President can be removed, and he then utilized the meetings with other senior U.S. officers to implement that conspiracy, and conveyed the fact of the conspiracy and its success to the Chinese (along with who knows what else).
That is the gravamen here: the conspiracy/collusion between a senior military officer and a political opponent of the President to illegally and improperly interfere with the President's Constitutional authority as Commander-in-Chief.
Nicely summarized.
And everyone who was party to it is guilty of being an accomplice, a conspirator, or just as treasonous.
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https://twitter.com/RealKyleMorris/status/1438206602092457993
Ooopsie!
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Ooopsie!
Of course the Defense Department did not authorize the calls. The calls were made from an underground network which Milley had access.
Milley WAS spying for the Chinese. He was acting as a full blown Chinese operative. Spies do not request 'authorization'.
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On one hand they say the calls were normal and routine. On the other, they say they will not release the transcripts to show that.
They can say NO to reporters, but I doubt they will be able to say NO to Congress or the Courts.
By then everything will have been rewritten, anyway.
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Mark Milley Finally Gives His Denial but Ends up Telling on Himself
By Bonchie | Sep 15, 2021 2:45 PM ET
Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Mark Milley has finally given his denial regarding the claim that he pledged to the Chinese to commit treason in order to undermine Donald Trump. As RedState previously reported, a quote from Bob Woodward’s new book showed Milley had promised a Chinese general that he would tip him off of any incoming American attack. This was part of an intricate plan pushed by Nancy Pelosi and others for Milley to essentially operate as a military dictator.
Now, after a day of letting the story simmer, Milley is personally denying the charge. Or is he? You be the judge and then we’ll dive into the details.
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https://redstate.com/bonchie/2021/09/15/mark-milley-finally-gives-his-denial-but-ends-up-telling-on-himself-n443461
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Jen Psaki Sinks to a New Low in Defense of Mark Milley
By Bonchie | Sep 15, 2021 3:45 PM ET
Earlier today, Gen. Mark Milley provided an on-the-record denial that he pledged to commit treason with the Chinese in order to undermine then President Donald Trump. Well, he sort of provided an on-the-record denial. In reality, he essentially confirmed he did what he did while offering a slew of meaningless qualifiers to make it look as if he were acting in a righteous manner.
Now, the White House is getting involved. Jen Psaki was asked about the situation today, and her answer truly represents a new low, though, I doubt this is the bottom.
Here’s what she said.
https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1438195537287725058
https://twitter.com/PhilipWegmann/status/1438187080169967620
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https://redstate.com/bonchie/2021/09/15/jen-psaki-sinks-to-a-new-low-in-defense-of-mark-milley-n443474
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"the former president was implementing an insurrection."
yeah that's why Milley called China and who knows where else.... :smokin:
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Raheem J. Kassam
@RaheemKassam
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Of course Biden has full confidence in Milley.
They both work for the same country.
That country is not America, FYI.
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https://twitter.com/VeBo1991/status/1438193191757438988
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John Bolton Defends Gen. Mark Milley: ‘His Patriotism Is Unquestioned’
Former National Security Advisor John Bolton expressed support for Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Mark Milley following a bombshell report alleging that Milley secretly told a Chinese official that he would provide advance notice of a possible attack to the communist regime.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/09/15/john-bolton-defends-gen-mark-milley-his-patriotism-is-unquestioned/
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John Bolton Defends Gen. Mark Milley: ‘His Patriotism Is Unquestioned’
Former National Security Advisor John Bolton expressed support for Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Mark Milley following a bombshell report alleging that Milley secretly told a Chinese official that he would provide advance notice of a possible attack to the communist regime.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/09/15/john-bolton-defends-gen-mark-milley-his-patriotism-is-unquestioned/
Uh, actually, it's very questionable.
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John Bolton Defends Gen. Mark Milley: ‘His Patriotism Is Unquestioned’
Former National Security Advisor John Bolton expressed support for Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Mark Milley following a bombshell report alleging that Milley secretly told a Chinese official that he would provide advance notice of a possible attack to the communist regime.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/09/15/john-bolton-defends-gen-mark-milley-his-patriotism-is-unquestioned/
Looks like the insurrectionist are sticking together. This thing is going to be a larger war crimes tribunal than Nurmberg before it is over.
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Uh, actually, it's very questionable.
Time for some serious Watergate Payback.....
Line them all up, and ask what you knew about Chicom military collusion, and when did you know it.
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David Frum
@davidfrum
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The new Woodward book doesn't release until September 21, so it's six full days of defamation of General Milley before the story falls apart
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David Frum
@davidfrum
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The new Woodward book doesn't release until September 21, so it's six full days of defamation of General Milley before the story falls apart
Somebody's got to get thrown under the bus......
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https://twitter.com/VeBo1991/status/1438193191757438988 (https://twitter.com/VeBo1991/status/1438193191757438988)
Hillary Clinton committed numerous very public felonies while in office concerning her "secret server" she was using to communicate internationally without going through United States Procedures. Lois Lerner used her position at the IRS to openly and flagrantly target anyone she considered to be "too patriotic" or "too Christian" or "pro-Republican". Debbie Wasserman Schultz hired known Middle East spies to care for the entire Congressional Information System.
None of these Democrats got so much as a parking ticket.
I predict that spying for the Chinese as Joint Chiefs of Staff will turn out the same way as all the other Democrat traitors.
In the Democrat Party, being a traitor to America is a rite of passage, to be praised not punished.
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Claims that Milley made ‘secret’ calls to Chinese leaders exaggerated, sources say
A defense official said the calls were not out of the ordinary, and the chairman was not frantically trying to reassure his counterpart.
By LARA SELIGMAN and DANIEL LIPPMAN
09/15/2021 01:48 PM EDTClaims in an upcoming book that a frantic Joint Chiefs Chairman Gen. Mark Milley made secret calls to his Chinese counterpart are greatly exaggerated, according to two people familiar with the discussions.
A forthcoming book by Bob Woodward and Robert Costa claims that Milley grew concerned about then-President Donald Trump’s instability and the possibility that he might spark a war with China, prompting him to arrange a pair of secret phone calls with Gen. Li Zuocheng of the People’s Liberation Army. The first was on Oct. 30, just four days before the presidential election, and the second on Jan. 8, two days after a mob of pro-Trump rioters stormed the Capitol. ...
The people also said that Milley did not go rogue in placing the call, as the book suggests. In fact, Milley asked permission from acting Defense Secretary Chris Miller before making the call, said one former senior defense official, who was in the room for the meeting. Milley also briefed the secretary’s office after the call, the former official said.
“We discussed beforehand and after his call with his Chinese counterpart,” the person said, speaking on condition of anonymity to discuss a sensitive topic. ...
Politico (https://www.politico.com/news/2021/09/15/claims-that-milley-made-secret-calls-to-chinese-leaders-exaggerated-sources-say-511918?2)
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https://twitter.com/VeBo1991/status/1438193191757438988
"I didn't like him and I really, like, think he was unfit."
"The Chairman of the joint chiefs had to collude with the Chicoms to undermine Trumps authority. Cause I thought Trump was icky"
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Claims that Milley made ‘secret’ calls to Chinese leaders exaggerated, sources say
A defense official said the calls were not out of the ordinary, and the chairman was not frantically trying to reassure his counterpart.
By LARA SELIGMAN and DANIEL LIPPMAN
09/15/2021 01:48 PM EDTPolitico (https://www.politico.com/news/2021/09/15/claims-that-milley-made-secret-calls-to-chinese-leaders-exaggerated-sources-say-511918?2)
That does not square with this:
https://twitter.com/RealKyleMorris/status/1438206602092457993?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1438206602092457993%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.gopbriefingroom.com%2Findex.php%2Ftopic448373.325.html
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Claims that Milley made ‘secret’ calls to Chinese leaders exaggerated, sources say
A defense official said the calls were not out of the ordinary, and the chairman was not frantically trying to reassure his counterpart.
By LARA SELIGMAN and DANIEL LIPPMAN
09/15/2021 01:48 PM EDTPolitico (https://www.politico.com/news/2021/09/15/claims-that-milley-made-secret-calls-to-chinese-leaders-exaggerated-sources-say-511918?2)
???
Total subterfuge. Totally disregarded the October 30th event. Chris Miller didn't become acting SOD until November 9, 2020. As usual, tell a half truth, and you might pull off a dupe.
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Claims that Milley made ‘secret’ calls to Chinese leaders exaggerated, sources say
A defense official said the calls were not out of the ordinary, and the chairman was not frantically trying to reassure his counterpart.
By LARA SELIGMAN and DANIEL LIPPMAN
09/15/2021 01:48 PM EDTPolitico (https://www.politico.com/news/2021/09/15/claims-that-milley-made-secret-calls-to-chinese-leaders-exaggerated-sources-say-511918?2)
Yes, and the withdrawal from Afghanistan was a smashing success.
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Claims that Milley made ‘secret’ calls to Chinese leaders exaggerated, sources say
A defense official said the calls were not out of the ordinary, and the chairman was not frantically trying to reassure his counterpart.
By LARA SELIGMAN and DANIEL LIPPMAN
09/15/2021 01:48 PM EDTPolitico (https://www.politico.com/news/2021/09/15/claims-that-milley-made-secret-calls-to-chinese-leaders-exaggerated-sources-say-511918?2)
And Chris Miller has already denied giving permission for any such calls.
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And Chris Miller has already denied giving permission for any such calls.
It's like setting a bug bomb, and watching the roaches scatter
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Bottom line is, nobody is going to be punished for all this. They are "Made Men" in the Deep State Mafia.
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Milley asked permission from acting Defense Secretary Chris Miller before making the call, said one former senior defense official, who was in the room for the meeting. Milley also briefed the secretary’s office after the call, the former official said.
Somebody is lying!
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Bottom line is, nobody is going to be punished for all this. They are "Made Men" in the Deep State Mafia.
Bottom line is that this country is now just one more banana republic on the face of the earth.
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The worst part of all of this, is that Biden, Pelosi, Milley, Obama, AOC, and all the rest, do not have a single clue on Earth what they are playing with. The real Communists are not your friends, as you think they are. They would kill all of you, and your family, without a blink.
You guys think you have found something 'better' than America. So go there. Be with your compatriots! But of course that is not the goal. The goal of the Democrats is not to embolden or support Communists. The goal is to Destroy. Destruction is what they crave. If Communist governments can help them in that goal, then hail Communism. They do not care. The only goal they have is to bring down America. If Communists and Islamic supremacist happen to benefit from that, they don't care. That is not their concern.
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I didn't read the entire thread.
But it seems like it might be a good time to dig up a copy of the old film "Seven Days in May" and watch it again.
I did some diggin' for ya -- some possible sources here:
magnetdl.proxyninja.org/s/seven-days-in/
(you will have to add "https://" in front of the line above -- c'mon, you know what to do...)
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https://twitter.com/AndrewCMcCarthy/status/1438271445902270466
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https://twitter.com/AndrewCMcCarthy/status/1438271445902270466 (https://twitter.com/AndrewCMcCarthy/status/1438271445902270466)
That picture is the picture when he had a 'moment of clarity'. He set in the magnitude of his own doing, here in America, and globally.
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I'm putting a link to the UCMJ below should anyone here wish to look at it.
https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?path=/prelim@title10/subtitleA/part2/chapter47&edition=prelim
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I'm putting a link to the UCMJ below should anyone here wish to look at it.
https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?path=/prelim@title10/subtitleA/part2/chapter47&edition=prelim
Like: §894. Art. 94. Mutiny or sedition
(a) Any person subject to this chapter who—
(1) with intent to usurp or override lawful military authority, refuses, in concert with any other person, to obey orders or otherwise do his duty or creates any violence or disturbance is guilty of mutiny;
(2) with intent to cause the overthrow or destruction of lawful civil authority, creates, in concert with any other person, revolt, violence, or other disturbance against that authority is guilty of sedition;
(3) fails to do his utmost to prevent and suppress a mutiny or sedition being committed in his presence, or fails to take all reasonable means to inform his superior commissioned officer or commanding officer of a mutiny or sedition which he knows or has reason to believe is taking place, is guilty of a failure to suppress or report a mutiny or sedition.
(b) A person who is found guilty of attempted mutiny, mutiny, sedition, or failure to suppress or report a mutiny or sedition shall be punished by death or such other punishment as a court-martial may direct.
(Aug. 10, 1956, ch. 1041, 70A Stat. 68.)
Historical and Revision Notes Revised section Source (U.S. Code) Source (Statutes at Large)
894(a)
894(b)
50:688(a).
50:688(b).
May 5, 1950, ch. 169, §1 (Art. 94), 64 Stat. 136.
In subsection (a)(1) and (2), the words "or persons" are omitted, since, under section 1 of title 1, words importing the singular may apply to several persons.
In subsection (a)(3), the word "a" is substituted for the words "an offense of". The words "commissioned officer" are inserted after the word "superior", for clarity.
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Like: ?
Mutiny seems to fit quite nicely here.
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John Bolton Defends Gen. Mark Milley: ‘His Patriotism Is Unquestioned’
Former National Security Advisor John Bolton expressed support for Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Mark Milley following a bombshell report alleging that Milley secretly told a Chinese official that he would provide advance notice of a possible attack to the communist regime.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/09/15/john-bolton-defends-gen-mark-milley-his-patriotism-is-unquestioned/
TDS has completely broken John Bolton.
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Bottom line is that this country is now just one more banana republic on the face of the earth.
And that's just how the Dems want it
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Like: ?
There are so many things in there that he could potentially be charged with it's hard to keep track of them all.
He's already admitted to making the call so the only question now is who's lying about his getting permission.
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There are so many things in there that he could potentially be charged with it's hard to keep track of them all.
He's already admitted to making the call so the only question now is who's lying about his getting permission.
First step would be to convene an Article 32 investigation to determine specific charges. IF there's a courts martial that's where it gets tricky...because of his duty position.
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First step would be to convene an Article 32 investigation to determine specific charges. IF there's a courts martial that's where it gets tricky...because of his duty position.
He's the CJCS. It would be like expecting a rogue Attorney General to prosecute himself for perjuring himself before Congress.
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First step would be to convene an Article 32 investigation to determine specific charges. IF there's a courts martial that's where it gets tricky...because of his duty position.
Seems to me that someone should be doing interviews to determine the extent of any potential security breaches before that.
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Seems to me that someone should be doing interviews to determine the extent of any potential security breaches before that.
Milley has always declared loudly and at every opportunity, "China is not our enemy!!" He could have been working for Chinese Intelligence for decades. Who knows?
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Milley has always declared loudly and at every opportunity, "China is not our enemy!!" He could have been working for Chinese Intelligence for decades. Who knows?
:yowsa: I couldn't agree more. Seems to me that half of official Washington is on the CHICOM payroll.
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He's the CJCS. It would be like expecting a rogue Attorney General to prosecute himself for perjuring himself before Congress.
Well by tricky..and I'm doing this from memory so I may not have this exactly correct...I mean the investigating officer for the 15-6 Investigation would have to be of equal rank and position...that means a 4 Star that's been the CJCS...you'd have to dip into the retired ranks and call them back to active duty for this special mission.
And that's where the SecDef has the advantage.
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Seems to me that someone should be doing interviews to determine the extent of any potential security breaches before that.
Those orders would have to come from the SecDef...Lloyd Austin.
I wouldn't hold your breath.
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Not sure about this..haven't seen this anyplace else
BREAKING: Trump Defense Secretary Esper Arranged the Chinese Back-Channels! Trump’s Traitorous Cabinet Members Have Soiled Their Own Legacies
By
Brooke McGowan
15 September 2021
So many times we were left shaking our heads during the Trump Administration, wondering who in his Cabinet could be trusted. We saw many of their deeds as unpatriotic or deeply questionable.
We were shocked to learn earlier this week that Gen Mark Milley, JCOS chairman, has admitted in an upcoming book titled “Peril,” that he had back channels with his Chinese counterpart in case President Trump pulled some rogue maneuver following the stolen 2020 election.
Today, Trump’s former Defense Secretary, Mark Esper, rode to Milley’s defense, tweeting that the “White Rage Woke” Milley is a “person of impeccable integrity and professionalism.”
We just learned from General Paul Vallely that it was in fact Defense Secretary Mark Esper who arranged the back-channels for the Chinese talks. Both Milley and Esper were concerned that President Trump would go off half-cocked and launch nuclear missiles to defend his position, an unwarranted and ridiculous assumption, given the pro-military and anti-war agenda of President Trump.
No wonder President Trump had so much trouble accomplishing his goals! His cabinet was filled with yellow-bellied traitors!
Attorney General Bill Barr was equally disappointing, as it was he who proclaimed the steal of 2020 to be legitimate, urging President Trump to officially drop the issue.
Surrounded by traitors, our President was hamstrung at every turn.
God help us.
http://magainstitute.com/breaking-trump-defense-secretary-esper-arranged-the-chinese-back-channels-trumps-traitorous-cabinet-members-have-soiled-their-own-legacies/
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https://rumble.com/embed/vjyuk3/?pub=4
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Not sure about this..haven't seen this anyplace else
BREAKING: Trump Defense Secretary Esper Arranged the Chinese Back-Channels! Trump’s Traitorous Cabinet Members Have Soiled Their Own Legacies
By
Brooke McGowan
15 September 2021
So many times we were left shaking our heads during the Trump Administration, wondering who in his Cabinet could be trusted. We saw many of their deeds as unpatriotic or deeply questionable.
We were shocked to learn earlier this week that Gen Mark Milley, JCOS chairman, has admitted in an upcoming book titled “Peril,” that he had back channels with his Chinese counterpart in case President Trump pulled some rogue maneuver following the stolen 2020 election.
Today, Trump’s former Defense Secretary, Mark Esper, rode to Milley’s defense, tweeting that the “White Rage Woke” Milley is a “person of impeccable integrity and professionalism.”
We just learned from General Paul Vallely that it was in fact Defense Secretary Mark Esper who arranged the back-channels for the Chinese talks. Both Milley and Esper were concerned that President Trump would go off half-cocked and launch nuclear missiles to defend his position, an unwarranted and ridiculous assumption, given the pro-military and anti-war agenda of President Trump.
No wonder President Trump had so much trouble accomplishing his goals! His cabinet was filled with yellow-bellied traitors!
Attorney General Bill Barr was equally disappointing, as it was he who proclaimed the steal of 2020 to be legitimate, urging President Trump to officially drop the issue.
Surrounded by traitors, our President was hamstrung at every turn.
God help us.
http://magainstitute.com/breaking-trump-defense-secretary-esper-arranged-the-chinese-back-channels-trumps-traitorous-cabinet-members-have-soiled-their-own-legacies/
I would not call them "Yellow-bellied traitors", necessarily, but raving, partisan paranoiacs seems to fit. I am sure this is also a projection of their own capacity for abuse of power onto a political opponent. This is what happens when you start believing your own hyperbolic propaganda. Just look at Pelosi, who apparently was also a party to this group madness.
I cannot see how any of these people are psychologically fit for public office or command.
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I would not call them "Yellow-bellied traitors", necessarily, but raving, partisan paranoiacs seems to fit. I am sure this is also a projection of their own capacity for abuse of power onto a political opponent. This is what happens when you start believing your own hyperbolic propaganda. Just look at Pelosi, who apparently was also a party to this group madness.
I cannot see how any of these people are psychologically fit for public office or command.
They aren't! Yet there they are and there they will remain!
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They aren't! Yet there they are and there they will remain!
Effectively leaving control of WMDs in the hands of paranoid psychopaths.
What could possibly go wrong?
I'd bet none of these MFers would pass the psych eval for a boomer crew.
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Effectively leaving control of WMDs in the hands of paranoid psychopaths.
What could possibly go wrong?
I'd bet none of these MFers would pass the psych eval for a boomer crew.
I wouldn't touch that bet with someone else's ten-foot pole!
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(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/00/28/1f/00281f08d1e436dd22fdbd9eaf5f68c9.jpg)
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https://mobile.twitter.com/nataliegwinters/status/1438573466781831202
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https://mobile.twitter.com/nataliegwinters/status/1438573466781831202
SO....not just a paranoid psychopath, but an idiot as well.
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Joe Gabriel Simonson
@SaysSimonson
I think it's weird that the two Washington Post journalists who wrote that book have been basically silent since giving their book to CNN and their employer to promote.
I also think it's weird that you have multiple outlets attacking central claims in the book and if those claims prove to be fabrications, the people who made those claims will still have jobs.
10:46 AM · Sep 17, 2021
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So there's a story out this morning that Milley's power grabs and disregarding the chain of command go back to his time as the Army Chief of Staff...and current CSA James McConville is also complicit going back to when he was Milley's Vice Chief.
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So there's a story out this morning that Milley's power grabs and disregarding the chain of command go back to his time as the Army Chief of Staff...and current CSA James McConville is also complicit going back to when he was Milley's Vice Chief.
Well, there goes the whole 'spur of the moment to save the world' fiction. Considering Pelosi and IIRC, Schumer wee implicated (Why not the Veep or Senate Majority leader if the concern was that POTUS would unilaterally bypass all safeguards and start slinging nukes?) their attempt to portray Milley's usurpation of power is likely serious CYA on their part as well.
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Well, there goes the whole 'spur of the moment to save the world' fiction. Considering Pelosi and IIRC, Schumer wee implicated (Why not the Veep or Senate Majority leader if the concern was that POTUS would unilaterally bypass all safeguards and start slinging nukes?) their attempt to portray Milley's usurpation of power is likely serious CYA on their part as well.
They are bringing out the big guns now. I see that former Supreme Allied Commander Europe Admiral (ret) James Stavridis has a puff piece our saying that Milley was just being a good soldier doing the right thing.
Only problem is that on the credibility standpoint Stavridis isn't the best person to be vouching for Milley. Seems the good Admiral had some issues with money...specifically in the realm of official and unofficial travel and "other matters".
Officially he was cleared...but I worked in the unit that helped create the paper trail to get him off the hook.
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Peril author Bob Woodward reveals Gen. Milley briefed top brass about China call and ordered Pacific region admiral to CANCEL operations that could be seen as 'provocative': Trump allies say he undermined President's orders
(https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10009321/Milley-briefed-officials-China-call-ordered-Pacific-admiral-CANCEL-provocative-operations.html?ito=social-twitter_mailonline)
Bob Woodward said Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Mark Milley briefed four entities on his backchannel calls with China behind President Trump's back
'There's nothing hidden about this,' Woodward assured
When asked if he knew he was reporting on 'treasonous behavior' by Milley in his new book, he replied: 'No, not at all'
Woodward said Milley told CIA Director Gina Haspel, NSA Director Paul Nakasone and chiefs of the military branches to 'watch everything'
Also ordered an admiral in charge of the Pacific region to 'cancel operations that the Chinese might see as provocative'
Woodward and Robert Costa's new book 'Peril' hits shelves on Tuesday
Excerpt: Rest at headline link
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They are bringing out the big guns now. I see that former Supreme Allied Commander Europe Admiral (ret) James Stavridis has a puff piece our saying that Milley was just being a good soldier doing the right thing.
Only problem is that on the credibility standpoint Stavridis isn't the best person to be vouching for Milley. Seems the good Admiral had some issues with money...specifically in the realm of official and unofficial travel and "other matters".
Officially he was cleared...but I worked in the unit that helped create the paper trail to get him off the hook.
You know they're going to circle the wagons, especially when a charge of treason isn't off the table.
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You know they're going to circle the wagons, especially when a charge of treason isn't off the table.
Last night Levin brought up the point rightfully that Woodward sat on the story 3 months before publishing in his book. Patiently waiting on the reprecusioons of that. /s
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You know they're going to circle the wagons, especially when a charge of treason isn't off the table.
I'm waiting for the "Five former Chiefs of Staff sign letter defending Milley's Actions" to appear in the NY Times or the WaPo
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Wow. So he attempted to conduct a full coup.
@Kamaji
I'm so old I can remember when that was called "Treason".
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Milley needs to go, preferably with a court martial. What he did was treason. He should be denied his pension, and sent to prison for life.
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Milley has some explaining to do....on why he didn't commit treason.
@mystery-ak
I can hear her explanation now,"I'm just a gurl......!"
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If he was so concerned, why didn't he initiate Amendment 25 proceedings, or speak to those who could? That is what the 25th Amendment is ostensibly for.
But no. Instead, he decided to commit treason.
@Kamaji
Anybody surprised by this never paid any attention to what Miss Miley has said and done in the past.
I would really like to know who her "rabbi's" were in the military and the government that made sure she kept getting promoted instead of getting booted out of the army. She didn't become the CMMFIC by accident.