Yeah.
Very becoming of a Statesman.....
How utterly pathetic and embarrassing.
I am so glad I had no hand in electing this dufus.
I'll take the Dufus who doesn't get us into endless wars and sends thousands of Americans to their death for nothing over the "Statesman" any day.
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@SanguineI'm going to play Devil's advocate for a second.
It'll be deleted very shortly, if it hasn't already, but the damage has been done. Sources have picked it up and are running with it. What a damned idiot.
Yeah.
Very becoming of a Statesman.....
How utterly pathetic and embarrassing.
I am so glad I had no hand in electing this dufus.
Give him time, Trump's just getting started. He's the one sending 4,000 more troops to Afghanistan.
Remember, the Lounge is a non-political place. Let's take the politics to a more appropriate thread.Just got this far, and responded before I read this to a post upstream. OK, we'll take it outside... :shrug:
Give him time, Trump's just getting started. He's the one sending 4,000 more troops to Afghanistan.
And Hannity comes running to protect daddy.
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And Hannity comes running to protect daddy.
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And I'm answering @Wingnut there. :laugh:
I'm going to play Devil's advocate for a second.
@Mod2 @CatherineofAragon
Okay. What the.. did I do now?
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Badly. The 12 dimensional chess argument is asinine. You're better than that, SJ.Well, I took my turn in the barrel. Who's next?
Ah. The handful of #NT's clutching their pearls over Donny slamming some POS nobody. Things were so much better when we had classy guys in the WH....
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What is it with Trump and bleeding women, anyway?
Ah. The handful of #NT's clutching their pearls over Donny slamming some POS nobody. Things were so much better when we had classy guys in the WH....
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What is it with Trump and bleeding women, anyway?
Mod note: Redacted
Maybe his mom or wives had bad PMS and he's traumatized
Truth told, there hasn't been any thing or anyone even remotely "classy" in the WH since Reagan. That is how far our nation has fallen and is still plummeting to the bottom. Sad, that.
Ah. Another personal attack after we were told specifically by the owner not to. Guess you are looking for another forced vacation.I see..... questions. You could have answered in the negative. Jussayin'... :shrug:
Maybe DC is circling the drain, but for the most part fly over country is still in fine shape. This fetish for looking to Washington to set some sort of tone is absurd. All of them are garbage.LOL! That's cause we don't live in that swamp. If it's circling the drain, there's an outlet open somewhere...
Maybe DC is circling the drain, but for the most part fly over country is still in fine shape. This fetish for looking to Washington to set some sort of tone is absurd. All of them are garbage.
Truth told, there hasn't been any thing or anyone even remotely "classy" in the WH since Reagan. That is how far our nation has fallen and is still plummeting to the bottom. Sad, that.I believe longing for something in the past, is wishful thinking. The world, society has changed.
I believe longing for something in the past, is wishful thinking. The world, society has changed.After nearly 40 years of being lied to, kicked under the bus, and villified by the GOP, it's going to take action and accomplishments before I will grudgingly be anywhere near satisfied, and then the question will persist "Why not just do this in the first place?".
You can post Reagan's picture until the cows come home, but I have proved over and over, people on this site do not agree with him.
Conservatives now, are almost uniformly negative, unlike Reagan. They get Trump, who is trying to do the very things they have bitched about wanting for years, and they still bitch and bitch.
Truth told, there hasn't been any thing or anyone even remotely "classy" in the WH since Reagan. That is how far our nation has fallen and is still plummeting to the bottom. Sad, that.
I find it funny looking through the archives how we mocked and complained about Obama's unprofessional use of twitter (remember twitter diplomacy) to communicate and for the narcissism. Now, many cheer it being used in a manner that would get a 6 year old some time in the corner if he talked to someone that way. We've gone from mocking #bringbackourgirls to cheering juvenile antics on the same platform.Twitter is good... it has electrolytes!
Idiocracy fulfilled.
The "... but they started it!" defense. *****rollingeyes*****
I'll take the Dufus who doesn't get us into endless wars and sends thousands of Americans to their death for nothing over the "Statesman" any day.
They get Trump, who is trying to do the very things they have bitched about wanting for years, and they still bitch and bitch.
Perhaps because he's also trying to do things that are exactly what Reagan was fighting against.Which would be precisely what, if I may ask nicely?
Maybe DC is circling the drain, but for the most part fly over country is still in fine shape. This fetish for looking to Washington to set some sort of tone is absurd. All of them are garbage.
Yeah, the (il)logic of Trump's toadies is amazing. Supposedly, it's right to "hit back!" when dissed.
But then, Trump posts that he doesn't understand why he's treated badly after he "said no".
So, which is it?
This is turning into a bad joke. I know 6 year olds who behave better than this.
I believe longing for something in the past, is wishful thinking. The world, society has changed.
You can post Reagan's picture until the cows come home, but I have proved over and over, people on this site do not agree with him.
Conservatives now, are almost uniformly negative, unlike Reagan. They get Trump, who is trying to do the very things they have bitched about wanting for years, and they still bitch and bitch.
Pointing out the vast difference between then and now equates to "longing for the past" to you?
I don't really give a hoot what 'other' folks think of Reagan.
And who, in their right (pardon pun) mind, wouldn't be negative these days? Look at what we're up against. And it's not what Trump is trying to do (necessarily) that is at issue (at least with me). It's how he's attempting to do it. He needs to use some restraint when it comes to making those absurd tweets. He needs to reign in his inner child. He needs to start acting presidential. You know....
like an adult.
And who, in their right (pardon pun) mind, wouldn't be negative these days? Look at what we're up against. And it's not what Trump is trying to do (necessarily) that is at issue (at least with me). It's how he's attempting to do it. He needs to use some restraint when it comes to making those absurd tweets. He needs to reign in his inner child. He needs to start acting presidential. You know....
like an adult.
Like I mentioned above, it is like the Ouroboros, the snake eating its own tail. Both sides feed each other and off each other. The media baits Trump knowing he will take the bait and react just like he does, which gets them mentioned by the most powerful voice in the world- you can't pay for advertising that good.
He is giving them exactly what they want, and he is getting what he wants, more red meat for the cult and so he can boost the WWE like storyline.
The question becomes:
I have a feeling the only ones on both sides who actually enjoy it are the same ones who cheer when The Rock lays the smackdown on The Undertaker and swear it is all real.is he doing this because he is too stupid to know he is giving the media the exact reaction they want, or is he playing along with the game as an ally on stage like two actors playing of each other.
Maybe he's jealous.
Maybe his mom or wives had bad PMS and he's traumatized
Ronald Reagan is the gold standard when it comes to Presidential decorum. "Class" never goes out of style, it's timeless.
The wholesale effort to egg Trump on, from people I consider reasonably intelligent and moral, is befuddling and disconcerting.
I find it funny looking through the archives how we mocked and complained about Obama's unprofessional use of twitter (remember twitter diplomacy) to communicate and for the narcissism. Now, many cheer it being used in a manner that would get a 6 year old some time in the corner if he talked to someone that way. We've gone from mocking #bringbackourgirls to cheering juvenile antics on the same platform.
Idiocracy fulfilled.
@driftdiver
It has to be something....
@driftdiver
It has to be something....
@AbaraXas
All joking aside, what 70 year-old man thinks and behaves like this? Sincerely.
He's now 71... :thud:
http://wiki.c2.com/?FalseDichotomy
@CatherineofAragon
Honestly I don't care what it is. I care about whats being done to push through the changes we need. Why are we being distracted with meaningless trivia. Who cares what he tweets.
I have a feeling the only ones on both sides who actually enjoy it are the same ones who cheer when The Rock lays the smackdown on The Undertaker and swear it is all real.
If nothing else, Trump is drawing attention re: these leftists and their agenda to the perpetually asleep (or too busy working their @ss off) moral majority..... to the point that they will, hopefully, wake the hell up and start regularly voting the leftists out every election.
It's ok. Go ahead. Share your feelings with the group.
Mod Note: Knock it off, WTF. You've been warned before, time for another small vacation.
Yeah.
Very becoming of a Statesman.....
How utterly pathetic and embarrassing.
I am so glad I had no hand in electing this dufus.
Frank is like a favored per around here as long as he licks the right boot.
@XenaLee
Actually I've found that being negative is a habit. I've seen it time after time after time. No matter what happens some people always see the negative. Nothing is good enough for them.
Others choose to look at the positives. For example Hillary is not our President. Obama is gone too. Yes Trump has many flaws. He's also done some things good, such as the Supreme Court. He cannot do it by himself and the constant negativity is a cancer among those who should be trying to help push him in a more positive way.
Put yourself in his shoes. You expect the left to attack you. But many on the right refuse to even give him a chance. If it were me I'd probably tell everyone to go jump in a lake and spend all my time at the golf course.
I wouldn't be placing too much hope in that. A large number of "Republicans" I converse with now believe its the government's job is to provide for the less fortunate with other people's money and government programs.
A large number of former suburban Chicago Democrats have migrated South into the Nashville area in the last five years, and they are voting for the same stupid crap that put them into bankruptcy up there. They are like locusts, and sadly - the locals are giving into them!
When it comes to Mika...Trump just is reiterating his strong believe by many that anything that bleeds for seven days... and doesn't die, should not be trusted.
Frank is like a favored per around here as long as he licks the right boot.
Not only that. But negativity rubs off on you. I was married to an ex-CIA guy that, over the years, became more and more and more negative. It's a mental disorder that you can 'catch' if you're too close to it for too long. I have apparently caught it. But not to the point that I'm not still hopeful for us to recover and survive the leftist assault.
I thank God every day that Hillary isn't in the WH and that the rats aren't in power. I feel like we have been given one more, last chance. But what has the GOP done with that power thus far? Not much. What will they do with it? God only knows. My biggest fear is that they will, once again, snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.... which is the one thing the GOPers are good at (excluding a scant few real conservatives, of course).
Oh I do. I have no problem with Trump attacking the azholes that are attacking him. It's HOW he's doing it that I take issue with. He needs to at least 'act' more presidential and more reserved or restrained. His tweets make him sound like a juvenile lunatic. But then... I just don't like 'tweeting' as a form of communication. I would prefer that he not use it as his 'go to' communication tool. And I would prefer that he not reply to every... single... slight.... as if it mattered. I remember how asinine Obama was for eight years. Do we really need another CIC with that kind of thin skin? I don't think so.
Do we really need another CIC with that kind of thin skin? I don't think so.
@XenaLeeHabit, or learned behaviour? Once again, promises were made, once again, they aren't being fulfilled.
Actually I've found that being negative is a habit. I've seen it time after time after time. No matter what happens some people always see the negative. Nothing is good enough for them.
And the last ELE sized asteroid missed the planet. But none of those improve what is, they only are tossed out as sugary treats to remind us how much worse things could have been. Until we get away from the state the country was in in January (and on some fronts there is progress, notably the EPA), there will be little cause for celebration, and even that, due to past performance will be rife with skepticism, carefully scrutinized, and not celebrated until codified and it survives the Liberals in the courts.
Others choose to look at the positives. For example Hillary is not our President. Obama is gone too.
Yes Trump has many flaws. He's also done some things good, such as the Supreme Court. He cannot do it by himself and the constant negativity is a cancer among those who should be trying to help push him in a more positive way.Gorsuch looks like he could be good. that's one vote, but each vote is important.
This ain't beanbag. He knew that when he applied for the job. If he didn't expect flack from the Right, I wouldn't know why, he did enough to earn it. (Didn't need us, didn't want us, recall that?) None on the right have any choice, really, other than to give him a chance (he is POTUS, after all), but that doesn't mean we will be silent and not voice our opinion, good or bad. That goes with the territory.
Put yourself in his shoes. You expect the left to attack you. But many on the right refuse to even give him a chance. If it were me I'd probably tell everyone to go jump in a lake and spend all my time at the golf course.
What is it, exactly, that you are licking?
Remember how Reagan generally handled the assholes? "Well, there you go again...." he trivialized them and made the appear unimportant to him, barely giving them a thought. He came across as the adult with more important things to deal with than this crap.
Trump is coming across much more like Obama than Reagan,
Remember how Reagan generally handled the assholes? "Well, there you go again...." he trivialized them and made the appear unimportant to him, barely giving them a thought. He came across as the adult with more important things to deal with than this crap.
Trump is coming across much more like Obama than Reagan,
When it comes to Mika...Trump just is reiterating his strong believe by many that anything that bleeds for seven days... and doesn't die, should not be trusted.
@Wingnut
Yet y'all just can't do without us.
No we don't, but we got one for another 3 years and 6 months at least. Time to make lemonade
@Wingnut
Yet y'all just can't do without us.
Lol..... if the "machos" had to go seven days without their sammich.... they'd be the ones moaning in pain!
What is it with Trump and bleeding women, anyway?
@CatherineofAragon
Honestly I don't care what it is. I care about whats being done to push through the changes we need. Why are we being distracted with meaningless trivia. Who cares what he tweets.
Oh but haven't you heard?
Trump has saved countless lives in Syria by making Assad too afraid to use chemical weapons. :silly:
They're also flapping their lips about regime change in both NK and Iran. (The worst possible places to get involved in nation building)
Ah. The handful of #NT's clutching their pearls over Donny slamming some POS nobody. Things were so much better when we had classy guys in the WH....
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@XenaLee
Moaning in pain....like when they get a splinter? :laugh:
Maybe DC is circling the drain, but for the most part fly over country is still in fine shape. This fetish for looking to Washington to set some sort of tone is absurd. All of them are garbage.
'Flyover' land is a net tax sink compared to non 'flyover' territory. If the government collapses, the northeast and the west coast would do fine. They'd import their food from abroad into their ports and transport it on their roads. And their infrastructure would also get a boost from not needing to support the deadbeats.
'Flyover' territory may grow a lot of corn/wheat... but without the ability to export it to those with the cash to buy it... it's worth less than mud.
.... it's worth less than mud.
'Flyover' land is a net tax sink compared to non 'flyover' territory. If the government collapses, the northeast and the west coast would do fine.
'Flyover' land is a net tax sink compared to non 'flyover' territory. If the government collapses, the northeast and the west coast would do fine. They'd import their food from abroad into their ports and transport it on their roads. And their infrastructure would also get a boost from not needing to support the deadbeats.
'Flyover' territory may grow a lot of corn/wheat... but without the ability to export it to those with the cash to buy it... it's worth less than mud.
Which would be precisely what, if I may ask nicely?
--Lower taxes?
--Reduced regulations?
--America first trade policies?
--Stronger military?
And some other stuff Trump is doing IS EXACTLY what real conservatives have asked for since Reagan, like better immigration enforcement, etc.
Most folks on disability are in flyover country.
Bullshit.
Bullshit.
I wouldn't be placing too much hope in that. A large number of "Republicans" I converse with now believe its the government's job is to provide for the less fortunate with other people's money and government programs.
A large number of former suburban Chicago Democrats have migrated South into the Nashville area in the last five years, and they are voting for the same stupid crap that put them into bankruptcy up there. They are like locusts, and sadly - the locals are giving into them!
Its actually true. The greatest pockets of disability claims are in more rural, less urban markets.
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That's from 2012 AND it includes SSI, not just disability claims.
This, from 2013, shows that Michigan (hardly what one would call "flyover country") has the highest claims for disability with Missouri and S. Carolina (also not "flyover country") among the top three states for such claims.
http://247wallst.com/special-report/2013/05/20/states-with-the-most-americans-on-disability/2/
SSI and SSDI are different forms of disability insurance.
This clearly shows disability is clustered in the states in the middle of the country.
Not really. When you have or control the food supply, you have control over life vs. death. That is power. You grow the food, people will come to you to get fed.
Flyover country is also VERY well-armed, enough to protect that food supply. And what happens if the west coast and port cities are unable to broker a deal with foreign entities? What if those foreign entities are also trying to recover from a SHTF scenario and are unable to export anything?
You're making assumptions here that are based on delusional conditions. Flyover country will survive a SHTF situation. The east and west coast large cities.... not so much.
Uh... no. It doesn't. Michigan is not in the middle of the country and as of 2013, Michigan had THE highest disability claims.
Now, that could have changed since 2013, but that's the most recent data I've seen. You got anything more recent?
Its actually true. The greatest pockets of disability claims are in more rural, less urban markets.
SSI and SSDI are different forms of disability insurance.
This clearly shows disability is clustered in the states in the middle of the country.
Uh... no. It doesn't. West Virginia (not Michigan) is not in the middle of the country and as of 2013, W Virginia had THE highest disability claims.
Now, that could have changed since 2013, but that's the most recent data I've seen. You got anything more recent?
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@CatherineofAragon
Honestly I don't care what it is. I care about whats being done to push through the changes we need. Why are we being distracted with meaningless trivia. Who cares what he tweets.
How is #10 considered in the "Top 3"?
Its actually true. The greatest pockets of disability claims are in more rural, less urban markets.
(http://www.dailyyonder.com/files/images/DisabilityMap.jpg)
The C-Free Diet
If we didn’t have California, what would we eat?
By Brian Palmer
http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/explainer/2013/07/california_grows_all_of_our_fruits_and_vegetables_what_would_we_eat_without.html
...If California were to disappear, what would the American diet be like?
Expensive and grainy. California produces a sizable majority of many American fruits, vegetables, and nuts: 99 percent of artichokes, 99 percent of walnuts, 97 percent of kiwis, 97 percent of plums, 95 percent of celery, 95 percent of garlic, [90 percent of broccoli], 89 percent of cauliflower, 71 percent of spinach, and 69 percent of carrots (and the list goes on and on).
Has anyone asked how Melania's crusade against cyber-bullying is going?
Has anyone asked how Melania's crusade against cyber-bullying is going?
Ehhh..... perhaps a whole nuther thread should be made for this. I'm having a hard time believing this data. The past few years (under Obama) disability claims have skyrocketed and I just don't think most of those claims came from the states this data points to. :shrug:
Then how about 2015?
https://www.ssa.gov/policy/docs/statcomps/di_asr/2015/di_asr15.pdf
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We all should care because these tweets are illustrative of a mentally ill man.
He can't debate the issues which tells me he has nothing to debate or is incapable of it. So he resorts to the lowest level and personally attacked his perceived "enemy".
There just is no defense for this behavior. Maybe it's a cry for help?
There just is no defense for this behavior. Maybe it's a cry for help?
Really? 194 pages? Like I have time to go through that right now? lol
Anyway, thanks for the more recent data. I'll check it out later.
Thanks.
'Flyover' land is a net tax sink compared to non 'flyover' territory. If the government collapses, the northeast and the west coast would do fine. They'd import their food from abroad into their ports and transport it on their roads. And their infrastructure would also get a boost from not needing to support the deadbeats.And we'd ship the oil out of the gulf ports, along with grain. The world's gotta eat and go places, too, and y'all would drive prices up. We'd be okay, long after those dollars became ultra strength charmin..
'Flyover' territory may grow a lot of corn/wheat... but without the ability to export it to those with the cash to buy it... it's worth less than mud.
Which States Are Givers and Which Are Takers?
And is that even the correct way to frame the question?
JOHN TIERNEY MAY 5, 2014
https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2014/05/which-states-are-givers-and-which-are-takers/361668/
...
The WalletHub (http://wallethub.com/edu/states-most-least-dependent-on-the-federal-government/2700/) analysts essentially asked how much each state receives back as a return on its federal income-tax investment. They compared the 50 states and the District of Columbia on three metrics: 1) federal spending per capita compared with every dollar paid in federal income taxes; 2) the percentage of a state’s annual revenue that comes from federal funding; and 3) the number of federal employees per capita. The third measure received only half the weight of each of the others in the calculation.
[click link for the lists and graphics]
...
And as for the food supply...
You're welcome, @XenaLee . Much of the report are the supporting data, in tables.
You might find Chart 8 interesting, too... disability has fallen off since 2010.
Chart 8.
Social Security disability awards, 1980–2015
Overall, the number of disability awards has risen from 446,083 in 1980 to 839,429 in 2015. Fluctuations during that period were predominately driven by changes in the number of awards to disabled workers. In 2015, there were 741,478 awards to disabled workers; 67,554 awards to disabled adult children; and 30,397 awards to disabled widow(er)s.
(https://www.ssa.gov/policy/docs/statcomps/di_asr/2015/chart08.gif)
You might find Chart 8 interesting, too... disability has fallen off since 2010.
California must ship all of its fruit to other regions then, because in the past few decades the quality of fruit available here went from best in the world to terrible.They pick it green and force-ripen it with ethylene. If the produce people aren't really good, the bananas will only last a day or two before they are turning brown.
I'm guessing we import nearly all of the stuff in CA supermarkets from regions south. It seems to all have been refrigerated for extended period and tastes bland as hell.
Certainly not the fruit I remember from my childhood.
Ehhh..... perhaps a whole nuther thread should be made for this. I'm having a hard time believing this data. The past few years (under Obama) disability claims have skyrocketed and I just don't think most of those claims came from the states this data points to. :shrug:I am heavily inclined to share your skepticism. Under Obama they pulled out ALL the stops, to get and keep people involved with dependency.
California must ship all of its fruit to other regions then, because in the past few decades the quality of fruit available here went from best in the world to terrible.
I'm guessing we import nearly all of the stuff in CA supermarkets from regions south. It seems to all have been refrigerated for extended period and tastes bland as hell.
Certainly not the fruit I remember from my childhood.
I am heavily inclined to share your skepticism. Under Obama they pulled out ALL the stops, to get and keep people involved with dependency.There is a big concentration in coal country, too.
Unemployment ran out, go on disability, etc. And go on EBT cards, too.
And as far as honesty in reporting ANYTHING, I would be equally skeptical of Obama era stats.
Before Obama it was easy to find murder by blacks rates on the DOJ site, but for 8 years it was buried very deeply. Instead murder of black stats were prominent.
Wow. #Nevertrumpers virtue signaling that Trump supporters are in dependent regions, whereby they are more virtuous, living in democrat sh!te hles on the coasts chocked full of feral welfare, EBT card users?I'm really not too worried. Really. Not. Between ND and MT, we're the worlds's third largest nuclear power. What, me worry?
Am I reading the implications of the maps, and claimed virtuosity?
Don't about half of the members live in Texas, which voted for Trump?
Wow. #Nevertrumpers virtue signaling that Trump supporters are in dependent regions, whereby they are more virtuous, living in democrat sh!te hles on the coasts chocked full of feral welfare, EBT card users?
Am I reading the implications of the maps, and claimed virtuosity?
Don't about half of the members live in Texas, which voted for Trump?
I'm really not too worried. Really. Not. Between ND and MT, we're the worlds's third largest nuclear power. What, me worry?
Reagan believed in free trade. He supported the formation of the EU. He backed our allies. He supported the post-war economic system (Bretton Woods).Reagan believed in Fair Trade. The EEC was formed before (1951) and the EU after (1993) he came into office. He befriended Russia, for peace.
Trump is opposed to all of that.
Reagan believed in Fair Trade. The EEC was formed before (1951) and the EU after (1993) he came into office. He befriended Russia, for peace.
You didn't respond to Lower taxes, reduced regulation, etc.
Trump attacks 'Psycho' Joe Scarborough, 'Crazy' Mika Brzezinski in Twitter tear
Trump the Jeckyll / Hyde POTUS.
I really like a lot of his direction in governance.
OTOH.... He is worthless piece of shit as a human.
I'll take the Dufus who doesn't get us into endless wars and sends thousands of Americans to their death for nothing over the "Statesman" any day.
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Yes, he was quite a statesman on so many levels ... 88devil
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I didn't vote for Trump, to be my preacher. I voted for him to get conservative, American focused measures in place.
He is doing largely what he proposed to do during his campaign, and using innovative methods to cut through, over, under and around the crooked media.
Real conservatives should applaud him, but I understand their inability to understand his communication methods.
Writers/commentators including Scott Adams, Larry Schweikart, Victor Davis Hanson, Newt Gingrich, Rush Limbaugh, Lou Dobbs, Sean Hannity and others understand and can explain, better than me.
Hey, at least George didn't grab em by the ...
nevermind.
Furthermore, Republicans have now abandoned free trade as a matter of principle. Proof? More Democrats (for bleep's sake) support free trade than Republicans now (http://dailycaller.com/2016/03/18/democrats-understand-econ-101-more-than-republicans-poll-shows/).
Actually they can't. All they can do is gush like schoolgirls, since most of them are Trump cultists and/or idiots.
There's a lot of territory between electing a president who isn't pastor material and electing a buffoon. Although I will say that it's only now, at this point in time, that some on the right need it explained that yes, character and morality do matter in leaders. And they still reject it.
That's always been the viewpoint of the left. Until now.
...Those tweets aren't the product of some cagey genius executing a move in a game of thirty-dimensional intergalactic chess. They were just an insecure man lashing out because his feelings got hurt.
@truth_seeker
There's a lot of territory between electing a president who isn't pastor material and electing a buffoon. Although I will say that it's only now, at this point in time, that some on the right need it explained that yes, character and morality do matter in leaders. And they still reject it.
Once upon a time, not too long ago... it was the sole province of the Left that would have to engage in smarter-than-you Lawyeresque Intellispeak to explain to us simpletons burdened by principle and morality, the gross and juvenile misbehaviors, the gaffs and the criminal actions of their political messiahs as being above our mere mortal and lowly selves to truly understand the genius of.
Today we have the likes of Adams, Schweikart, Davis Hanson, Gingrich, Limbaugh, Dobbs, Hannity and others doing the same exact thing to justify their wholesale surrender of Conservative principles and morality to prop up a lifelong NYC Liberal Democrat buffoon with a Twitter problem and a vindictive personality that must be assuaged publicly - as our champion who is far and above the understanding of those of us burdened by principles and morality they have no need nor use of anymore.
It is going to be an interesting and long 4 years to watch all this go down... In short, many people seem to think they have to act like their enemies, using their tactics, to "win" at any cost. It will be a Pyrrhic victory at best.
There is a big concentration in coal country, too.
I was thinking that too... And the desert SW for some reason.Funny thing about data presentation. If the numbers won't make your point, try percentages.
It really is a tempest in a teapot. It's roughly a 4 point swing, with a mean of around 5%. Any given year, any state might see a one point swing either way, so let's say 4-6% is normal seepage.
And the gigantic population of metropolises pads the states that have them... As an example,
There may be more people on welfare in MT percentage wise, but there's probably more people on welfare in Chicago alone than there is population in the state of MT... That big of a disparity in population pools makes for some weird anomalies. Something like that is likely in these statistics...
Yeah, you misread the map.
By supporting and encouraging Thatcher to have the UK join the EEC, he was encouraging free trade. For an economic union is, by definition, a large free trade zone.
He didn't attack it, unlike Trump.
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And since you brought up Fair Trade... that's been a Democrat talking point for some time now. Hillary, herself, supported it.
Which means you are claiming Reagan was, tradewise, much like the Democrats of today.
Furthermore, Republicans have now abandoned free trade as a matter of principle. Proof? More Democrats (for bleep's sake) support free trade than Republicans now (http://dailycaller.com/2016/03/18/democrats-understand-econ-101-more-than-republicans-poll-shows/).
Once again we see reason number 125,000,495 as to why this man needs to grow the eff up and quit using twitter to say things to people he'd never dare say to their faces. It's cowardly and unbecoming a man in the office he currently holds.
I see the new narrative of today is that CNN is doing the same as Trump because James O'Keefe secretly recorded a CNN producer making a private comment about Kellyanne Conway's appearance. Its not the same and any honest person can see the obvious difference.
Trump actively went out of his way to very publicly attack another woman based on her looks as is his normal pattern of behavior. What a CNN producer says privately is of no consequence to anyone and O'Keefe is dishonest to equate it with public comments. The fact is that since his single real exposure of the ACORN scam, O'Keefe has become quite the charlatan himself. He does more to create news than expose it.
As my grandmother taught me, "If you aren't eavesdropping you won't hear anything to be upset about".
I see the new narrative of today is that CNN is doing the same as Trump because James O'Keefe secretly recorded a CNN producer making a private comment about Kellyanne Conway's appearance. Its not the same and any honest person can see the obvious difference.
Trump actively went out of his way to very publicly attack another woman based on her looks as is his normal pattern of behavior. What a CNN producer says privately is of no consequence to anyone and O'Keefe is dishonest to equate it with public comments. The fact is that since his single real exposure of the ACORN scam, O'Keefe has become quite the charlatan himself. He does more to create news than expose it.
As my grandmother taught me, "If you aren't eavesdropping you won't hear anything to be upset about".
The fact is that since his single real exposure of the ACORN scam, O'Keefe has become quite the charlatan himself. He does more to create news than expose it.
@driftdiver
Nope. I've about had it with the idea that we have some kind of obligation to Trump. He needs to clean up his act . We owe him nothing....it's on him to perform.
@CatherineofAragon
Its not about him and its not about you or me.
Its about pulling this country back from the abyss.
How is attacking the media helping the Conservative cause?? What do we want? What is the end game? How is constantly attacking the media helping the Conservative cause?
How is attacking the media helping the Conservative cause?? What do we want? What is the end game? How is constantly attacking the media helping the Conservative cause?
Nothing is gained by it and nothing will be changed by it. Its just bread and circuses for Trump's morons.
Trump was a fool to Tweet that. The same as during the election, he is way ahead, he is firing on all cylinders, and then he tweets something STUPID which sets him back. This is a pattern. I don't know if he has some kind of self-destructive pathology or what? But he is very consistent with it.
And certainly, even if he had to post this garbage, he should have left Joe's courtesan out of it. It was the epitome of stupid to mention that she was 'bleeding', even if it was from surgery. Trump has to stay away from discussing 'women bleeding'. He has burned that bridge already, and now he's back to burn it again.
Someone better be watching him. It is obvious that he has fits of rage especially very early in the morning. Like a werewolf, he seems to lose his composer and his self control between 1am to breakfast time. And then he returns to his version of what normal is.
His aids should take his cellphone overnight. And only give it back to him after he has had breakfast. That would save everyone a lot self inflicted problems. And Trump could sleep instead of tweeting, like a normal person would do.
Trump was a fool to Tweet that. The same as during the election, he is way ahead, he is firing on all cylinders, and then he tweets something STUPID which sets him back. This is a pattern. I don't know if he has some kind of self-destructive pathology or what? But he is very consistent with it.
And certainly, even if he had to post this garbage, he should have left Joe's courtesan out of it. It was the epitome of stupid to mention that she was 'bleeding', even if it was from surgery. Trump has to stay away from discussing 'women bleeding'. He has burned that bridge already, and now he's back to burn it again.
Someone better be watching him. It is obvious that he has fits of rage especially very early in the morning. Like a werewolf, he seems to lose his composer and his self control between 1am to breakfast time. And then he returns to his version of what normal is.
His aids should take his cellphone overnight. And only give it back to him after he has had breakfast. That would save everyone a lot self inflicted problems. And Trump could sleep instead of tweeting, like a normal person would do.
(Except for the courtesan thingy. Why would you call her that?)
I was wondering what would overtake the purple woman with big breasts thread.
Because I do not like her. I wanted to insult her, as she insults me with everything she says about my country and my President.
The orange guy with little hands stole the show.
And that is the point. It was a great thing to 'steal the show' when he was campaigning. In fact, it was wonderful. But that model of behavior does not apply anymore. He gains nothing from this.
I only hope that this was the crescendo of Trump's twitter addiction. I hope, but I also doubt, that this extreme faux pas has taught him that there are limits to his luck. If he keeps this up, he is bound to tweet something catastrophic someday that cannot be 'fixed', especially if it involves a foreign leader or a foreign country.
I hope this stupid, but relatively mild outburst, has alerted Trump himself, as well as his staff, to the fact that his Twitter addiction is a real issue, and is potentially a national security issue. Some kind of controls must be enacted on Trumps tweeting before he does something which is irreversible.
The best that can be said about this tweet from Trump is that he's giving back what the MSM is dishing out.
The worst that can be said is that Trump's tweet is an embarrassment and he's just given a low-rated leftist show a big ratings boost.
Neither of these are good and both of these show that this tweet was really childish.
But this tweet is not a big deal except to those who are fishing for things to pin on Trump. Well, they got one.
The orange guy with little hands stole the show.
Nope. Those few who have spent 24 solid hours posting the same thing over and over and over again stole the show.
I'll admit, it is fun to watch. ^-^
Awww can't even bring yourself to be brave enough to quote what I said in your complete devotion to Donny.
@kidd
No. You don't have to fish to pin things on Trump. He keeps sticking those pins in himself, over and over and over.
He's not trying to fight the media. He's just an insecure man who can't deal when his feelings get hurt.
This morning:
(http://i.imgur.com/bGat9JT.jpg)
That National Enquirer comment unintentionally reveals a lot.
Ah, no @txradioguy ... I did not repost your :bs: out of respect for this forum and its members.
Some still remember when such respect was the norm, not the exception. :shrug:
That National Enquirer comment unintentionally reveals a lot.
@AbaraXas
It tells me he had nothing to do with the slanderous stories about Cruz's mistresses. /s
Disability is an odd metric because its just as often one of choice for retired persons. Depending on individual circumstances they often make a choice between straight social security And social security disability. My mom got hurt shortly before retirement and chose SSDI but switched to straight SS when she officially retired.@Cripplecreek
@CatherineofAragon
Wait you mean he's completely blame free on the story that Ted's dad helped kill Kennedy? /s
@CatherineofAragon
Wait you mean he's completely blame free on the story that Ted's dad helped kill Kennedy? /s
Ah, no @txradioguy ... I did notreposttweet your :bs: out of respect forthis forumthe American public and its members.
Some still remember when such respect was the norm, not the exception. :shrug:
It seems he admitted just the opposite. He didn't say he can't stop it, but he wouldn't, as though he had direct influence over it.
This morning, Scarborough revealed a session between Trump and 20 members of congress, as described to him by an attendee. They had met to discuss the health care bill, but for whatever reason Trump launched into a long, red-faced diatribe about Mika Brzezinski. She has blood coming out of her ears, eyes, and so on.
Are you Jazzheads Sock Puppet account? I never see you two post at the same time?
Funny thing about data presentation. If the numbers won't make your point, try percentages.
If there are ten people in a room and five of them qualify, that's 50%
If there are a million and only 10% of them qualify, that's 100,000. You can hide the numbers with percentages, but saying there are "more" when there is just a higher percentage in misleading.
For instance, in West Virginia, in Dec. 2016, if you take OASDI (Old age, survivors, and disability) recipients' actual numbers, you find that they are 470,240 in number, less than 1% of the total of 60,907,307 recipients in the country for the same month https://www.ssa.gov/policy/docs/factsheets/cong_stats/2016/wv.pdf (https://www.ssa.gov/policy/docs/factsheets/cong_stats/2016/wv.pdf) Of that total, 89,508 were disabled workers, who were .14% of the total recipients in the country, and of the 8,808,736 disabled workers nationwide, they represent only 1.02%
Considering there are 50 states, in real numbers, the other 49 are 98.98% of the beneficiaries, and I hardly think this puts West Virginia high on the radar.
By contrast, New York has 502,062 disabled workers in the same month (over 5 times as many)source (https://www.ssa.gov/policy/docs/factsheets/cong_stats/2016/ny.pdf), and California had 682,668 disabled workerssource (https://www.ssa.gov/policy/docs/factsheets/cong_stats/2016/ca.pdf) , again in the same month, 5 1/2 and 7 1/2 times as many recipients, respectively, as West Virginia.
Anyone who wants real numbers (assuming the Soc Sec folks know what they did) for Dec. 2016 can find them here https://www.ssa.gov/policy/docs/factsheets/cong_stats/2016/index.html (https://www.ssa.gov/policy/docs/factsheets/cong_stats/2016/index.html), by state, by region, but oddly enough not just summarized in a table.
Someone was using derivative data rates rather than actual numbers to make their point, but the point and the presentation are misleading, and make some regions look worse than others.
It also ignores the tremendous effort put forth by the Obama Administration to get folks in 'Coal Country' to sign up for Federal programs, from Welfare to SSDI, in a region which traditionally resisted being "on relief" because of the social stigma attached to not 'doing for your own'.
@Sanguine he does that with regularity.
And that is the point. It was a great thing to 'steal the show' when he was campaigning. In fact, it was wonderful. But that model of behavior does not apply anymore. He gains nothing from this.
The brave and appropriate way to do personal attacks, is to @mention the subject.
@Sanguine @txradioguy
@driftdiver
You're exactly right, so lay the blame where it belongs. Stop with the absurdity that we have to accept and excuse every idiot move Trump makes, and if we don't, we're the problem.
@CatherineofAragon
Never said you had to accept it. You just don't have to dwell on it. There are more important things to worry about. Focusing on the minutia makes you the problem
@driftdiver
I'll focus on it as long as i see fit, and Trump will still be the problem.
Stop coddling him as though he's your king. He's your employee. Expect more.
@CatherineofAragon
Never said you had to accept it. You just don't have to dwell on it. There are more important things to worry about. Focusing on the minutia makes you the problem
Except that this minutia is sucking up all the oxygen.
'Morning Joe' hosts: White House threatened us with tabloid story
By The Hill staff - 06/30/17 11:56 AM EDT
The hosts of MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” on Friday made the startling allegation that senior White House officials threatened them with a negative story in the National Enquirer unless they called President Trump and apologized.
Mika Brzezinski and Joe Scarborough, who are engaged to be married, revealed the alleged threat in an op-ed in The Washington Post that was published the morning after Trump attacked Brzezinski in two widely condemned tweets.
"This year, top White House staff members warned that the National Enquirer was planning to publish a negative article about us unless we begged the president to have the story spiked. We ignored their desperate pleas," they wrote.
Brzezinski and Scarborough detailed the alleged blackmail attempt during Friday's episode of "Morning Joe."
“We got a call that, hey, the National Enquirer is going to run a negative story against you guys, and it was, Donald is friends with — the president is friends with — the guy that runs the National Enquirer,” Scarborough said.
Scarborough said “three people at the top of the administration” were calling him about the story the tabloid was preparing.
“And they said, if you call the president up, and you apologize for your coverage, then he will pick up the phone and basically spike the story,” he said.
“The calls kept coming, and kept coming, and they were like, ‘Call, you need to call, please call, come on Joe, just pick up the phone and call him.'”
Brzezinski said the National Enquirer was “threatening” her children at the time with phone calls.
“These calls persisted for quite some time, and then Joe had the conversations that he had with the White House, where they said, ‘Oh, this could go away.’”
“Our response was screw it, just let them run it,” she said.
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http://thehill.com/homenews/media/340245-morning-joe-hosts-white-house-threatened-us-with-tabloid-story (http://thehill.com/homenews/media/340245-morning-joe-hosts-white-house-threatened-us-with-tabloid-story)
The question is if they have this on tape?
@CatherineofAragon
Go jump in a cold icy lake. There are bigger fish to fry. Like is he pushing the right bills through, is he cutting govt regulations, is he taking care of the troops. Lots of stuff much more important.
Oh by the way, thats stuff he is actually mostly doing. SHAZZAAAAMMMM
If they don't have any proof of this alleged "blackmail"..... then it's just another case of "he said, she said, they said"..... and is probably just the fallout from the latest squabble. If they do have proof, this could be trouble for the Trump admin. Every day it's something. Never a dull, right?
@CatherineofAragon
Never said you had to accept it. You just don't have to dwell on it. There are more important things to worry about. Focusing on the minutia makes you the problem
Do not edit my posts in a quote -- in any way. @Polly Ticks.
Do not edit my posts in a quote -- in any way. @Polly Ticks.
I agree. There are more important things to worry about but we can't seem to get the POTUS to focus on what is important and let go of his obsession with Morning Joe and women's bleeding issues... It's not the public that is focusing on minutia, it is Trump who can't seem to take his mind off of it and keeps reminding us of it everyday on Twitter. We are not the ones obsessed, he is.
How is attacking the media helping the Conservative cause?? What do we want? What is the end game? How is constantly attacking the media helping the Conservative cause?Attacking them? Meh. I have better things to do.
I think we need to see his medical records. Would be interesting to see if he has a chemical imbalance going on. Maybe he needs anti-panic attack medication....?Or a snickers bar. Is he hypoglycemic?
Or a snickers bar. Is he hypoglycemic?
@kiddInteresting tweet, considering the timing of NE articles (not to mention content) during the primaries. It implies someone has control (or influence long suspected) over what is published about whom when.
No. You don't have to fish to pin things on Trump. He keeps sticking those pins in himself, over and over and over.
He's not trying to fight the media. He's just an insecure man who can't deal when his feelings get hurt.
This morning:
(http://i.imgur.com/bGat9JT.jpg)
That National Enquirer comment unintentionally reveals a lot.Yes, it does.
Interesting tweet, considering the timing of NE articles (not to mention content) during the primaries. It implies someone has control (or influence long suspected) over what is published about whom when.
Mika has never had a face-lift. If she had, it would be evident to anyone watching ‘Morning Joe’ on their high-definition TV.”
Ms. Brzezinski did have a “little skin under her chin tweaked,” but it was not a secret, they wrote.
There ya go... Great post, and worth repeating.I feel like such a piker. I have only worked 5 jobs that were on the 'ten most dangerous' list at the time I worked them.
There is SOME truth in it == I would expect a higher rate of disability in coal country, in the Alaskan fishing industry, in the patch, loggers of course, mill work/green chain... and so on. Suburbia doesn't have anything nearly as dangerous as what country folk do as a part of life. Pretty much every job I have ever had was 'dangerous'.
Or a snickers bar. Is he hypoglycemic?
Wouldn't it be great if all it took was to eat a Snickers and a decent President would appear?Sales would go through the roof.
And that reminds me of the Keystone Beer ads... "Wouldn't it be great if..."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Sx2gW_BvNU
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CerfkztWQAYQwkp.jpg)
Truth in advertising right there!
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CerfkztWQAYQwkp.jpg)
We are, quite literally, living in Bizarro World now..... where truth is stranger than fiction.
How the hell do we or can we get back to the normal world? :shrug:
We are, quite literally, living in Bizarro World now..... where truth is stranger than fiction.
How the hell do we or can we get back to the normal world? :shrug:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CerfkztWQAYQwkp.jpg):silly:
I ordered a Hot Tub Time Machine last week.It isn't there yet? Get a refund, it doesn't work.
It isn't there yet? Get a refund, it doesn't work.
'Normal' has been redefined for us.
But, when the two leading candidates were NYC liberal Democrats to begin with - why would we be expecting anything less than Bizarro World??
The country has lost it's grip on wisdom.
No surprise since the country has discarded the very foundational principles and religious heritage that made wisdom possible.
I ordered a Hot Tub Time Machine last week.
Wow.... .if only I had a time machine.
I would probably go back to the year when my parents first met and observe (stalk) them from that day forward. Uh oh. Probably to the point that I would never have been born. What's that called again? A temporal anomaly that creates a disruption in the spacetime continuum??? Yeah...I'd "unscrew" myself out of existence....lol.
Nevermind.
Wow.... .if only I had a time machine.
I would probably go back to the year when my parents first met and observe (stalk) them from that day forward. Uh oh. Probably to the point that I would never have been born. What's that called again? A temporal anomaly that creates a disruption in the spacetime continuum??? Yeah...I'd "unscrew" myself out of existence....lol.
Nevermind.
Mine will be here in time for my birthday!
https://www.the80scruise.com/
I know exactly what I'd do. I'd go back to 13th July, 1987 and move two nails. That's it.
The van I was in got a puncture, thanks to two nails in the street. Because of the puncture, I didn't put a bet on the horses - a £2 win Yankee. 5 horses, all long shots, the shortest odds were 20:1. All 5 won. I lost out on something around £12k.
Wow.... that was a pivotal moment.
Have always said if I could go back in time, relive it and know then what I know now......
things would be a whole lot different. One wonders... how different though.... and different better, or different worse....?
27 Oct 1978 for me. I won't elaborate any further.
Kushner told 'Morning Joe' hosts to apologize to Trump or tabloid story would run: report
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/340263-kushner-told-morning-joe-hosts-to-apologize-to-trump-or-tabloid-story (http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/340263-kushner-told-morning-joe-hosts-to-apologize-to-trump-or-tabloid-story)
I wonder if Joe still has those text messages?
Wow.... that was a pivotal moment.
Have always said if I could go back in time, relive it and know then what I know now......
things would be a whole lot different. One wonders... how different though.... and different better, or different worse....?
Okay. March of 2018. Saw the list of acts. If there was ever a dead pool list to be made that one is top notch! 888high58888
2018 will be my 3rd year on the Cruise...each one has gotten better.Enjoy!
2018 will be my 3rd year on the Cruise...each one has gotten better.
How is attacking the media helping the Conservative cause?? What do we want? What is the end game? How is constantly attacking the media helping the Conservative cause?
How does prostrating oneself as a masochistic whipping boy to the un-American, left-wing media help the Conservative cause?
Many males who think of themselves as arbiters of what conservatism is and is not, are nothing but effeminate appeasers who would rather reach across the aisle than offend anyone. They're talking vaginas, more or less.
What we're witnessing now is an ass kicking that is long overdue.
@Old Warrior in Exile
He isn't kicking anyone's ass. He's lashing out because his ego is sensitive and gets bruised easily. Big difference.
You don't catch flak unless you're damaging the target.
If you're taking flak, you're a shitty pilot.
Au contraire.
Do you not see and hear the nashing of teeth from the Left? What a deranged tizzy he has them in?
You don't catch flak unless you're damaging the target.
If you're taking flak, you're a shitty pilot.
Shows how much you know.
@Old Warrior in Exile
The left is always in constant teeth-gnashing mode. This isn't chess. It's just Trump being Trump and reacting when his feelings get hurt.
30 years as a combat pilot. You?
30 years as a combat pilot. You?
30 years as a combat pilot. You?
And?
People are complaining when he attacks the Left?!
This is WAR:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbgOP7SPGnA
I ain't got a dog in this hunt....
But I watched Top Gun several times.
Just say'n
:smokin:
Yeah, right.
Yeah, okay.
You do know what Andrew Breitbart thought of Trump, right?
Yeah.... I'm afraid he is right!
I must be a shitty pilot.
I'm taking flak.
(https://68.media.tumblr.com/f59b696012b145bdab3114267bf68de8/tumblr_oj2x66MTvP1rnm8lvo1_400.gif)
Tell me.
He saw through the guy. Laughed at his candidacy, said he wasn't a conservative, pointed out that he was a liberal.
Tell me.
He saw through the guy. Laughed at his candidacy, said he wasn't a conservative, pointed out that he was a liberal.
When?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibx7URgVF8U
Seriously?
What rock have you been living under?
Yeah, right.
I was asking @CatherineofAragon.
So?
Lay off. He's legit. @EC doesn't have to put "warrior" in his name to make people think he's some kind of "soldier" or fighter.
Real soldiers don't feel the need to brag.
But that still doesn't change the fact that this is WAR
And?
People are complaining when he attacks the Left?!
This is WAR:
WAR.....?...is that you?
So, you're threatening me, scumbag?
No, he's not legit. He's one of the the biggest bullshitters to ever present himself on a political forum.
People are complaining when he attacks the Left?!
This is WAR:
WAR.....?...is that you?
O', lord, @mystery-ak.
I'm a mean bastard, I'll admit, but not a leftist loon.
There was no threat in what I said you old Buffoon.
One of the quickest ways to get shown the door here is to question a legitimate Veterans service record.
You just made the first step towards the exit.
No you're just a loon period.
O', lord, @mystery-ak.
I'm a mean bastard, I'll admit, but not a leftist loon.
Hey, dolt, anytime anyone wants me to leave, I'll show myself out.The Mods will be happy to accommodate your I'm sure.
My aplogies for ruffling your panties.
No you're just a loon period.
And you're a really smart guy with lots of bright ideas.
See, we both have delusions, now.
@CatherineofAragon William F Buckley had the same opinion of Donny.
Thank you for doing @CatherineofAragon's research for her.
knock off the personal attacks
I feel like such a piker. I have only worked 5 jobs that were on the 'ten most dangerous' list at the time I worked them.
Farming is probably the worst. I know a guy who got his arm wrapped up in a PTO shaft, two miles from his house, back before cell phones. He tied his upper arm off with a bootlace, tightened it with a screwdriver, and amputated what was left of his arm with his jack knife. Then he walked to his pickup at the edge of the field, drove to the house, and called help. He's an extreme case, perhaps, but he didn't write a book or get a movie made about it. He has my respect.
Seems city folks only end up in situations like that playing, and then people make a big fuss over it.
Obviously smarter than you...
@Old Warrior in Exile
Actually, I did yours for you. You're welcome.
O', lord, @mystery-ak.
I'm a mean bastard, I'll admit, but not a leftist loon.
And a fan of the leftist Trump too we've noticed
And for whom did you vote in 2012 may I ask?
Wrote in Constitution Party candidate (forgot his name). How about you?
You forgot his name?
Do you mean to tell me, in one of the most important presidential elections in your lifetime, in our lifetimes, it was so inconsequential to you that you cannot recall the name of the candidate for whom you voted?
I hear that bs that every election is the most important of our lifetimes. Don't make me laugh.
In 2008, 2012, and 2016. when the choice is between a socialist, and a Raging RINO........ or even worse with the Trojan horse Trump............ I vote none of the above.
@CatherineofAragon William F Buckley had the same opinion of Donny.
You forgot his name?
Do you mean to tell me, in one of the most important presidential elections in your lifetime, in our lifetimes, it was so inconsequential to you that you cannot recall the name of the candidate for whom you voted?
Which is why people in this country are no longer interested in having a statesman for President.@INVAR
They want a narcissistic dictator to attack and punish their perceived domestic enemies for them at each and every opportunity that can be had.
Because... payback. This is usually a sign that a Republic is no longer functioning but has already warped itself into a mobocracy under some kind of personality to act as Dear Leader.
Blood flows swiftly and without mercy in such environments and often the original agitators become its eventual victims. And no one is spared. But if that's what this people want - which apparently seems to be the case for both the Marxist Left and the Populists - they shall have it.
@INVAR
I appreciate your posts. You represent insight and thinking. Many are one doters, they stick in the moment and can't think outside that moment to the larger picture of what is happening.
Gee..... I've been called a lot of things in the almost two decades that I've been posting on political forums.@XenaLee
But this is a first. One-doters of the World Unite!!!!!
:silly: :silly: :silly:
@INVAR
I appreciate your posts. You represent insight and thinking. Many are one doters, they stick in the moment and can't think outside that moment to the larger picture of what is happening.
@XenaLee
I didn't know your name was "Many". :silly:
@XenaLee
I didn't know your name was "Many". :silly:
As did TOS's founder. Opinions vary .... and change.... with time and tweets.
Hey.... Mika & Joe thought he was a swell guy.... up until they didn't. I chalk it up to the evil "R" thingy. But it's even, in reality, more complex than that.
@INVAR
I appreciate your posts. You represent insight and thinking. Many are one doters, they stick in the moment and can't think outside that moment to the larger picture of what is happening.
. . . they shall have it
The man promotes violence as a weapon in the political arena. You call it insight and thinking. I call it repulsive.
And I call you a pot stirring oversensitive troll.
This discussion was rolling along just fine without you unwarranted attack.
Take it somewhere else.
He cannot help himself. It's what Leftist snowflakes do as a tactic to shut down discussion they do not like.
He's continually frightened by our comments and cannot help but run to the mods about 'threats' while at the same time threatening to call the FBI because talk of the purpose of the Second Amendment against wannabe tyrants frightened him.
The man promotes violence as a weapon in the political arena. You call it insight and thinking. I call it repulsive.
@INVAR best thing to do is ignore blind side attacks like that and hit the report button and let the Mods take care of it.
@INVAR best thing to do is ignore blind side attacks like that and hit the report button and let the Mods take care of it.
:2popcorn:
Well it's hard to tell now but Morning Schmo used to be an "evil R Thingy" in the House.
I want some!!!
Enjoy! I had a large popper set up next to the coffeepot in the Lounge, purchased for lying, leftist trolls.
Well, you sure got me there.
The man promotes violence as a weapon in the political arena. You call it insight and thinking. I call it repulsive.Quite the opposite. Full sentence:
But if that's what this people want - which apparently seems to be the case for both the Marxist Left and the Populists - they shall have it.
Quite the opposite. Full sentence:
Considering he has disavowed the actions of both sides, his implication that the Left and the Populists will have violence if they want it is in no way an advocacy thereof, merely a conditional prediction of impending conflict.
However, your selective editing of his post to imply he did want blood in the streets or was making a threat is prima facie evidence of dishonesty on your part.
However, your selective editing of his post to imply he did want blood in the streets or was making a threat is prima facie evidence of dishonesty on your part.
Quite the opposite. Full sentence:
Considering he has disavowed the actions of both sides, his implication that the Left and the Populists will have violence if they want it is in no way an advocacy thereof, merely a conditional prediction of impending conflict.
However, your selective editing of his post to imply he did want blood in the streets or was making a threat is prima facie evidence of dishonesty on your part.
And a fan of the leftist Trump too we've noticed
It is what Leftists do in their continuous efforts to criminalize and list as a threat, anyone espousing the liberties they want abolished or regulated and with whom they disagree.
The media does it with their selective editing to push the pro-Marxist anti-Conservative narratives and the leftist operatives in the forum sphere and social media do it in an attempt to shame any opposition into silence or get us off-message to defend boldfaced lies used to portray us as an existential threat.
I'm not moved by such tactics except to press harder to expose who and what they really are.