BREAKING....Thread 9...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON

[Right_in_Virginia]

Smotrich doubles down on resettlement of Gazans, rejecting US criticism
Times of Israel, Jan 3, 2024

Rejecting the US State Department’s condemnation of calls for the resettlement of Palestinians outside of Gaza, Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich on Wednesday reiterated his support for encouraging “voluntary emigration” of the Strip’s population to other countries as part of his postwar vision.

The leader of the far-right Religious Zionism party claimed in a statement that “more than 70 percent of the Israeli public today supports” encouraging emigration as “a humanitarian solution,” but did not provide a source for this statistic.

National Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir, another senior far-right coalition partner of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, hit back at Washington shortly after it aired its criticism Tuesday.

“The United States is our best friend, but first of all we will do what is best for the State of Israel: the migration of hundreds of thousands from Gaza will allow the residents of the [Gaza] envelope to return home and live in security and will protect the IDF soldiers,” Ben Gvir posted on X. “I really admire the United States of America but with all due respect, we are not another star in the American flag.”

While he has issued statements insisting they do not represent government policy, Netanyahu himself gave the go-ahead for government members to support the plan to encourage Palestinians to leave the enclave.

Last Monday, he told a Likud faction meeting that he is working to facilitate the voluntary migration of Gazans to other countries. “Our problem is [finding] countries that are willing to absorb Gazans, and we are working on it,” he said.

The prime minister was responding to Likud MK Danny Danon, who claimed that “the world is already discussing the possibilities of voluntary immigration,” though the idea has been roundly rejected by the international community.

The war presents an “opportunity to concentrate on encouraging the migration of the residents of Gaza,” Ben Gvir told reporters and members of his far-right Otzma Yehudit party, calling such a policy “a correct, just, moral and humane solution.”


More:
https://www.timesofisrael.com/smotrich-doubles-down-on-resettlement-of-gazans-rejecting-us-criticism/

[Right_in_Virginia]

Smotrich doubles down on resettlement of Gazans, rejecting US criticism
Times of Israel, Jan 3, 2024

[...]

While he has issued statements insisting they do not represent government policy, Netanyahu himself gave the go-ahead for government members to support the plan to encourage Palestinians to leave the enclave.

Last Monday, he told a Likud faction meeting that he is working to facilitate the voluntary migration of Gazans to other countries. “Our problem is [finding] countries that are willing to absorb Gazans, and we are working on it,” he said.

The prime minister was responding to Likud MK Danny Danon, who claimed that “the world is already discussing the possibilities of voluntary immigration,” though the idea has been roundly rejected by the international community.

The war presents an “opportunity to concentrate on encouraging the migration of the residents of Gaza,” Ben Gvir told reporters and members of his far-right Otzma Yehudit party, calling such a policy “a correct, just, moral and humane solution.”


More:
https://www.timesofisrael.com/smotrich-doubles-down-on-resettlement-of-gazans-rejecting-us-criticism/

The Jewish State of Israel is arguing ethnic cleansing is "a correct, just, moral and humane solution".   Interesting times.

[mystery-ak]

WATCH: Hamas Trains Palestinian Children in Weapons, Terror Tunnels

The Hamas terror organization trains Palestinian children to prepare them to become terrorists as adults, allowing them to handle heavy weapons and guiding them through mock terror tunnels, according to videos and photos released on Wednesday.




more w/video
https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2024/01/03/watch-hamas-trains-palestinian-children-in-weapons-terror-tunnels/

[Smokin Joe]

I wasn't going to go there out of respect for you.   

[Hoodat]

The Jewish State of Israel is arguing ethnic cleansing is "a correct, just, moral and humane solution".   Interesting times.

That is not at all what the 'Jewish State' is arguing.  Please stop posting lies on this forum.

[Smokin Joe]

That is not at all what the 'Jewish State' is arguing.  Please stop posting lies on this forum.

Exactly. Their argument is simple. They are not going to tolerate terrorists on their doorstep any more.

[Right_in_Virginia]

That is not at all what the 'Jewish State' is arguing.  Please stop posting lies on this forum.

Ethnic cleansing:  Rendering an area ethnically homogeneous by using force or intimidation to remove from a given area persons of another ethnic or religious group, which is contrary to international law.

FTA:

Rejecting the US State Department’s condemnation of calls for the resettlement of Palestinians outside of Gaza, Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich on Wednesday reiterated his support for encouraging “voluntary emigration” of the Strip’s population to other countries as part of his postwar vision.

The prime minister was responding to Likud MK Danny Danon, who claimed that “the world is already discussing the possibilities of voluntary immigration,” though the idea has been roundly rejected by the international community.

The war presents an “opportunity to concentrate on encouraging the migration of the residents of Gaza,” Ben Gvir told reporters and members of his far-right Otzma Yehudit party, calling such a policy “a correct, just, moral and humane solution.”

More:
https://www.timesofisrael.com/smotrich-doubles-down-on-resettlement-of-gazans-rejecting-us-criticism/

Interesting times .......

[Right_in_Virginia]

Exactly. Their argument is simple. They are not going to tolerate terrorists on their doorstep any more.

Okay.  Understandable ---- you agree with the reasons for calling for it, but does your agreement change the definition of "ethnic cleansing? 

Ethnic cleansing:  Rendering an area ethnically homogeneous by using force or intimidation to remove from a given area persons of another ethnic or religious group, which is contrary to international law.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Haaretz Updates
12:24 AM

U.K. joins condemnation of far-right Israeli ministers' calls for displacement of Palestinians from Gaza

A senior British minister has joined condemnation of calls by far-right Israeli ministers for the displacement of Palestinians from the Gaza Strip. The United States, Germany and France have all taken issue with comments by extremist members of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's government.

"Gaza is occupied Palestinian Territory and will be part of the future Palestinian state. No Palestinian should be threatened with forcible displacement or relocation. Alongside our international partners, we deplore inflammatory remarks by Israeli Ministers Smotrich and Ben Gvir.

— Lord (Tariq)Ahmad of Wimbledon (@tariqahmadbt) January 3, 2024"

[Hoodat]

Ethnic cleansing:  Rendering an area ethnically homogeneous by using force or intimidation to remove from a given area persons of another ethnic or religious group, which is contrary to international law.

FTA:

Rejecting the US State Department’s condemnation of calls for the resettlement of Palestinians outside of Gaza, Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich on Wednesday reiterated his support for encouraging “voluntary emigration” of the Strip’s population to other countries as part of his postwar vision.

The prime minister was responding to Likud MK Danny Danon, who claimed that “the world is already discussing the possibilities of voluntary immigration,” though the idea has been roundly rejected by the international community.

The war presents an “opportunity to concentrate on encouraging the migration of the residents of Gaza,” Ben Gvir told reporters and members of his far-right Otzma Yehudit party, calling such a policy “a correct, just, moral and humane solution.”

Interesting times .......

"Voluntary immigration" is completely different from "using force or intimidation to remove".   Again, please stop posting lies on this forum.

[Hoodat]

Okay.  Understandable ---- you agree with the reasons for calling for it, but does your agreement change the definition of "ethnic cleansing? 

Ethnic cleansing:  Rendering an area ethnically homogeneous by using force or intimidation to remove from a given area persons of another ethnic or religious group, which is contrary to international law.

You are describing what Hamas does, not what Israel does.

[Right_in_Virginia]

"Voluntary immigration" is completely different from "using force or intimidation to remove".   Again, please stop posting lies on this forum.

Ethnic cleansing is *always* presented as "voluntary".  Withholding movement, safety, housing, water, medical supplies, electricity, food and employment are the provable and reliable ways of rendering "voluntary" a political sham.

[Hoodat]

So in your bizzarro world, "voluntary immigration" is synonymous with "using force or intimidation to remove"?

[Smokin Joe]

Okay.  Understandable ---- you agree with the reasons for calling for it, but does your agreement change the definition of "ethnic cleansing?

Does getting rid of Hamas necessitate that no one but Israelis live in Gaza? Does it preclude Arabs or Muslims living there?
No. It gets rid of Hamas.
What percentage of seed stock of Hamas would you preserve and turn loose to regrow the organization?

Terrorist behaviour does not constitute an ethnicity.

[Hoodat]

The only one here trying to "change the definition of 'ethnic cleansing'" is @Right_in_Virginia

[Right_in_Virginia]

Does getting rid of Hamas necessitate that no one but Israelis live in Gaza? Does it preclude Arabs or Muslims living there?

Israeli resettlement would take care of this @Smokin Joe   And, this, too, is part of the relocation proposal.  Take a peek at the West Bank.

No. It gets rid of Hamas.

Wouldn't it also get rid of all trapped living under the Hamas seige?  Remember, there hasn't been an election in Gaza since 2006  and Hamas wrestled control of the coalition government right after that election.

What percentage of seed stock of Hamas would you preserve and turn loose to regrow the organization?

What are you proposing here?

Terrorist behaviour does not constitute an ethnicity.

Is Israel proposing cleansing Gaza solely of Hamas terrorists?

[Hoodat]

Israeli resettlement would take care of this @Smokin Joe   And, this, too, is part of the relocation proposal.  Take a peek at the West Bank.

See Area C (the tan areas)?  That's where Jewish settlements are located.  They were founded in areas where no one lived.



And here are the Jewish settlements.



Enough with the lies already.  Israel isn't forcing Palestinians off their land.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Enough with the lies already.  Israel isn't forcing Palestinians off their land.

Enough with your fantasies.  Israel is forcing Palestinians off their land.  And the battles are escalating, which is why the Netanyahu regime moved two commando companies from the Gaza border to the West Bank just days before the Oct 7 attack.

[Hoodat]

Repeating a lie does not make it true.  Especially a 75-year-old lie.

[DCPatriot]

Repeating a lie does not make it true.  Especially a 75-year-old lie.

'Ethnic Cleansing'

https://www.facebook.com/reel/1405730226961823

Maybe you should go back to the UKRAINE map for your avatar?  /s

[DCPatriot]

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2024/01/the_problem_with_lies.html

January 4, 2024
The Problem with Lies
By Jim Gammon

Nowadays, we have a plethora of lies that are told knowingly and openly and without shame.

• "Genocide" is defined as the systematic extermination of a race. Either Israel is really bad at it, or it is in a war against Hamas, not committing genocide against Palestinians. 10-20,000 civilian deaths is terrible in human terms. But with two million Gaza residents and about 20,000 killed, including Hamas? Poorly done genocide.

The real problem in the Middle East? Jews refused to convert to Islam. The same is true of the nomads, Druze and Christians. Prominent Muslim leaders demand non-Muslims to either convert, subdue, or die. It isn't only about Jews, you are just as evil for not converting to Islam. Don't think you're excused because you have an open heart, even people from the wrong form of Islam (Sunni/Shia/Ibadi/Ahmadiyya/Sufism) are just as evil as Jews, to most Muslim leaders.

• Our media is free, fair and impartial. Okay, stop laughing. When Peter Jennings said that 90% of the media is left wing, including him, you should have believed him. If you wish to believe they don't tilt the news to the Left, wake up. The examples are enormous. Just one? President Barack Obama and Attorney General Eric Holder cooked up a plan to force U.S. gun sellers to provide guns to Mexican criminals, so that they could blame the NRA and gun owners. They were caught red-handed and then stonewalled the investigation. Holder refused to even testify. He had every chance to disprove the facts, he declined and the media dropped the subject.

continued at above link

[Bigun]

Enough with your fantasies.  Israel is forcing Palestinians off their land.  And the battles are escalating, which is why the Netanyahu regime moved two commando companies from the Gaza border to the West Bank just days before the Oct 7 attack.

One more time with vigor!

There is no such thing as a Palestinian!

[mystery-ak]

i24NEWS English
@i24NEWS_EN
·
22m
🛑ISIS spokesperson calls on Muslims to kill Jews in Israel and around the world. The statement was part of a 30-minute address, most of which was devoted to the Gaza war

[mystery-ak]

https://twitter.com/i24NEWS_EN/status/1742916635827265597

[mystery-ak]

https://twitter.com/IDF/status/1742936829027143743