Trump signals he’s out for revenge in second term

[andy58-in-nh]

Useless distraction. The promise of revenge should be an immediate disqualifier.
You cannot walk two paths. He should be about the nation's business, not his own.

And that is precisely Trump's problem.

He cannot ever seem to place the nation's interests above his own personal ones.

That is why he so commonly resorts to insults and threats, rather than articulating ideas and telling people what he would do to help rescue America and reverse Biden's disastrous policies.

It's not about us; it's always about him.

That is why he can't ever crack 47% in the polls - he turns off potential supporters in droves. 

[Bigun]

I'm not as willing as you are to throw in the towel on this country.

I didn't throw in the towel! SCOTUS did that!

[kevindavis007]

I didn't throw in the towel! SCOTUS did that!

How???

[Bigun]

How???

By refusing to take up a case in which they had ORIGINAL JURISDICTION! (Texas vs Pennsylvania)

[kevindavis007]

By refusing to take up a case in which they had ORIGINAL JURISDICTION! (Texas vs Pennsylvania)

You mean they didn't want to waste their time over a big lie.

[Maj. Bill Martin]

So you want a dictatorship just a long it's your guy who is the dictator.. Got it.

I think that about sums it up.  A very common theme among his supporters.

[Maj. Bill Martin]

By refusing to take up a case in which they had ORIGINAL JURISDICTION! (Texas vs Pennsylvania)

SCOTUS rightly concluded that Texas did not have standing to challenge the application of Pennsylvania voting laws and procedures to Pennsylvanians in Pennsylvania.

[roamer_1]

Great way of putting it.

Additionally, there are an awful lot of voters who don't like politicization of the justice system, and that helps Trump get votes.  But him promising to do the exact same thing to his opponents will turn off many of those same voters.  And I'm not talking leftists/Democrats here.  I'm talking about the persuadable voters in the middle.
 They want that stuff to stop, not just flip back and forth depending on who is in power.

But it is typical Trump.  Bluster and say stupid crap without regard to whether it helps you win or lose the election.  And it is stupid not only because of that, but because it is a threat he will be incapable of carrying out even if he did get elected.  He's just...an idiot.  These prosecutors aren't following orders from Biden, and new ones wouldn't follow orders from Trump.  But he thinks President is kinda/sorta like being King, so he can just order whatever he wants.

He's such an embarassment.

All I can say is.... YUP. 

[Hoodat]

You mean they didn't want to waste their time over a big lie.

What was the lie?

[Hoodat]

SCOTUS rightly concluded that Texas did not have standing to challenge the application of Pennsylvania voting laws and procedures to Pennsylvanians in Pennsylvania.

Article II, Section 1

Texas does have standing.

[Bigun]

SCOTUS rightly concluded that Texas did not have standing to challenge the application of Pennsylvania voting laws and procedures to Pennsylvanians in Pennsylvania.

Absolute and total Bullshit @Maj. Bill Martin ! Practically the ONLY reason SCOTUS was created in the first place was for them to settle disputes between states and they did not give them discretion to punt cases they don't want to deal with!

And BTW: Texas vs Pennsylvania was about violations of the U. S. Constitution!

[Hoodat]

Absolute and total Bullshit @Maj. Bill Martin ! Practically the ONLY reason SCOTUS was created in the first place was for them to settle disputes between states and they did not give them discretion to punt cases they don't want to deal with!

And BTW: Texas vs Pennsylvania was about violations of the U. S. Constitution!

Article III, Section 2

The judicial power shall extend to all cases, in law and equity, arising under this Constitution, the laws of the United States, and treaties made, or which shall be made, under their authority;--to all cases affecting ambassadors, other public ministers and consuls;--to all cases of admiralty and maritime jurisdiction;--to controversies to which the United States shall be a party;--to controversies between two or more states

[Right_in_Virginia]

Absolute and total Bullshit @Maj. Bill Martin ! Practically the ONLY reason SCOTUS was created in the first place was for them to settle disputes between states and they did not give them discretion to punt cases they don't want to deal with!

And BTW: Texas vs Pennsylvania was about violations of the U. S. Constitution!

QFT. 

[roamer_1]

I will stand with @Maj. Bill Martin .

Texas cannot dictate Penn's internal business.

[Hoodat]

I will stand with @Maj. Bill Martin .

Texas cannot dictate Penn's internal business.

Texas wasn't dictating it.  Texas was suing because Pennsylvania (and Georgia) were not following the Constitution whereas the rules regarding the selection of electors are formulated by State Legislators - not State Executives.

[Bigun]

Texas wasn't dictating it.  Texas was suing because Pennsylvania (and Georgia) were not following the Constitution whereas the rules regarding the selection of electors are formulated by State Legislators - not State Executives.

Absolutely right! 100% @Hoodat

[Bigun]

I will stand with @Maj. Bill Martin .

Texas cannot dictate Penn's internal business.

You stand with whomever you like but you will still be wrong! @roamer_1

[Bigun]

SCOTUS delivered the final death blow to the formerly great United States of America that day (12/11/2020) and it's too late to fix it now because those executive decisions @Hoodat mentioned above have now been codified into law in several of those states.

[LMAO]

I think that about sums it up.  A very common theme among his supporters.

It’s a very common theme among Extremists on both sides. I know two individuals in my life who said Trump was an authoritarian yet are cheerleading everything Biden is doing and had no problems with some of the things Obama did

[roamer_1]

Texas wasn't dictating it.  Texas was suing because Pennsylvania (and Georgia) were not following the Constitution whereas the rules regarding the selection of electors are formulated by State Legislators - not State Executives.

In that it is the Penn state legislators as a body that have standing, and no one else... OR state legislature is not the sole authority and therefore, arbiter of the state's elections, as the Constitution dictates.

[roamer_1]

You stand with whomever you like but you will still be wrong! @roamer_1

I don't think so @Bigun ... but here we go again, again... I guess. 

[Maj. Bill Martin]

Texas wasn't dictating it.  Texas was suing because Pennsylvania (and Georgia) were not following the Constitution whereas the rules regarding the selection of electors are formulated by State Legislators - not State Executives.

I don't understand why that gives Texas standing, which has to be a particularized
harm not applicable to the general public.

Trump or Pence would have had standing.  So would members of the legislature, or maybe some Pa. Citizens.  But the idea of one state suing another because it doesn't like the way that state apportioned its own electors seems a massive stretch of standing.

[Smokin Joe]

By refusing to take up a case in which they had ORIGINAL JURISDICTION! (Texas vs Pennsylvania)

YES!

[Smokin Joe]

Texas wasn't dictating it.  Texas was suing because Pennsylvania (and Georgia) were not following the Constitution whereas the rules regarding the selection of electors are formulated by State Legislators - not State Executives.

Precisely! It is the State Legislatures which are empowered to make the rules for elections in their respective states, and no one else. Not judges, not executive branch of the state and not appointees.

[Bigun]

I don't understand why that gives Texas standing, which has to be a particularized
harm not applicable to the general public.

Trump or Pence would have had standing.  So would members of the legislature, or maybe some Pa. Citizens.  But the idea of one state suing another because it doesn't like the way that state apportioned its own electors seems a massive stretch of standing.

There are apparently a lot of things you don't understand @Maj. Bill Martin beginning with what original jurisdiction means.

And BTW; it wasn't just Texas, half the states in this country joined Texas in the effort.