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Re: DeSantis says US should not accept Gaza refugees: 'They're all antisemitic'
« Reply #125 on: October 18, 2023, 02:44:41 pm »
Liars just gotta lie, it's in their genes.  Too bad.

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Re: DeSantis says US should not accept Gaza refugees: 'They're all antisemitic'
« Reply #126 on: October 18, 2023, 02:48:29 pm »
DeSantis' state has a decent-sized Jewish constituency.  He doesn't want to $h!t in his own nest by embracing Gaza refugees.

Frankly, the Gazans have brought this upon themselves.  They need to organize vigilante posses to run Hamas out of Gaza permanently.  Hamas and Iran have done Gaza no favors.

It’s not only the Jews they threaten

It’s anybody who doesn’t follow strict Islamic doctrine

What is the most mind boggling thing  I’ve seen is homosexuals and feminists defend and embrace Islam. I can only chalk it up to a Death wish
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Re: DeSantis says US should not accept Gaza refugees: 'They're all antisemitic'
« Reply #127 on: October 18, 2023, 02:51:23 pm »
It’s not only the Jews they threaten

It’s anybody who doesn’t follow strict Islamic doctrine

What is the most mind boggling thing  I’ve seen is homosexuals and feminists defend and embrace Islam. I can only chalk it up to a Death wish

I chalk it up to sheer ignorance.
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Re: DeSantis says US should not accept Gaza refugees: 'They're all antisemitic'
« Reply #128 on: October 18, 2023, 02:51:39 pm »
It’s not only the Jews they threaten

It’s anybody who doesn’t follow strict Islamic doctrine

What is the most mind boggling thing  I’ve seen is homosexuals and feminists defend and embrace Islam. I can only chalk it up to a Death wish


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Re: DeSantis says US should not accept Gaza refugees: 'They're all antisemitic'
« Reply #129 on: October 18, 2023, 03:06:57 pm »
I chalk it up to sheer ignorance.

I think they see Muslims as victims of an oppressor so they feel a common bond with them. To their detriment, of course.
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Re: DeSantis says US should not accept Gaza refugees: 'They're all antisemitic'
« Reply #130 on: October 18, 2023, 03:11:59 pm »
Calling someone a liar for exposing the exaggerations and falsehoods spewed by DeSantis and his campaign

What exaggerations and falsehoods?  Oh, that's right, there aren't any.  Just another lie from @Right_in_Virginia to cover up the last lie she told.

Here is what DeSantis said.  He was adamant in saying that America cannot accept people from Gaza into this country as refugees.  He argued that neighboring Arab states should take them in instead.  And he said that while Palestinians may not be Hamas supporters, they are still decidedly anti-Jewish.  So show me the falsehood or exaggeration in that.

The only falsehood here is @Right_in_Virginia ignoring these words and substituting some bullshit about travel bans in its place, and then lying about DeSantis copying Trump.  Lies upon lies upon lies.
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Re: DeSantis says US should not accept Gaza refugees: 'They're all antisemitic'
« Reply #131 on: October 18, 2023, 03:18:55 pm »
The human ego. It is crippling at times. I was hoping for a little self reflection on your part but it appears that that’s not gonna be the case

But hey, if you have truly convinced yourself that this is what you’ve done in this thread, despite facts, links, records, etc. to the contrary, all I can say is you go girl

Well stated.  It is one thing to post something not knowing whether or not it is true.  But once a claim has been shown to be untrue, a person of integrity will acknowledge it and back away from the original claim.

To someone who does not value integrity, it won't matter whether the claim has been proven true or not.  Such a person will continue to embrace the lie.
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Re: DeSantis says US should not accept Gaza refugees: 'They're all antisemitic'
« Reply #132 on: October 18, 2023, 03:26:13 pm »
I chalk it up to sheer ignorance.

It's a mediocre public school education paired with hubris, leading to a false consensus effect.  White liberals think palestinians share their values ... because why wouldn't they?  Liberals are awesome. 

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« Reply #133 on: October 18, 2023, 03:59:59 pm »
The late Rush Limbaugh used to say that liberalism needs victims in order to survive. Liberals like the pat themselves on the back as champions of the oppressed.

But all Israel does is retaliate against unprovoked rocket attacks from the Gaza Strip by HAMAS




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Re: DeSantis says US should not accept Gaza refugees: 'They're all antisemitic'
« Reply #134 on: October 18, 2023, 04:25:57 pm »
Years ago, I had a lefty try to make the dubious claim that the Palestinians were not anti-semetic, but just anti-Zionism

No. The basis for their anti-Zionism is their anti-semitism
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Re: DeSantis says US should not accept Gaza refugees: 'They're all antisemitic'
« Reply #135 on: October 18, 2023, 04:41:24 pm »
Calling someone a liar for exposing the exaggerations and falsehoods spewed by DeSantis and his campaign is palpable evidence of the panic and desperation among his supporters. 

Thank you ------ it's a great way to start the day.  :beer:

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Re: DeSantis says US should not accept Gaza refugees: 'They're all antisemitic'
« Reply #136 on: October 18, 2023, 04:41:51 pm »
Years ago, I had a lefty try to make the dubious claim that the Palestinians were not anti-semetic, but just anti-Zionism

No. The basis for their anti-Zionism is their anti-semitism

Palestinian children are taught this from a very early age.
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Re: DeSantis says US should not accept Gaza refugees: 'They're all antisemitic'
« Reply #137 on: October 18, 2023, 04:43:00 pm »
Years ago, I had a lefty try to make the dubious claim that the Palestinians were not anti-semetic, but just anti-Zionism

No. The basis for their anti-Zionism is their anti-semitism

Which is similar to the racist nonsense I've heard in this country before to the effect that blacks cannot be racist because they aren't a majority in this country and therefore have no power.

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Re: DeSantis says US should not accept Gaza refugees: 'They're all antisemitic'
« Reply #138 on: October 18, 2023, 04:43:28 pm »
Liars just gotta lie, it's in their genes.  Too bad.

And ciphers gotta cipher, right?   /s
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Re: DeSantis says US should not accept Gaza refugees: 'They're all antisemitic'
« Reply #139 on: October 18, 2023, 04:44:19 pm »
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Can you identify one of these "exaggerations and falsehoods spewed by DeSantis and his campaign" for us?  Or is this simply another instance of you blindly saluting one of RiV's posts without taking a moment to consider what is actually being said?
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Re: DeSantis says US should not accept Gaza refugees: 'They're all antisemitic'
« Reply #140 on: October 18, 2023, 04:48:59 pm »
@DCPatriot

Can you identify one of these "exaggerations and falsehoods spewed by DeSantis and his campaign" for us?  Or is this simply another instance of you blindly saluting one of RiV's posts without taking a moment to consider what is actually being said?

@Hoodat

Look...there's a difference between believing something to be true and deliberately lying.

You and your butt buddy @Kamaji use it freely (LIAR) because you know it's inflammatory.

And @mystery-ak  and @Cyber Liberty  let you.   :smokin:
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Re: DeSantis says US should not accept Gaza refugees: 'They're all antisemitic'
« Reply #141 on: October 18, 2023, 04:49:48 pm »
Let's review, shall we @Right_in_Virginia .  This thread is about Gaza refugees.  The title of the thread gives it away - "DeSantis says US should not accept Gaza refugees".  On the first page of this thread, several posters commented on this.  Pretty much everyone was in agreement that any refugees should remain in Gaza and should not be brought to the US for resettlement.  Yet you chime in at post 14 offering this Trump campaign propaganda "President Donald Trump will immediately reimpose the Trump Travel Ban. "We don't want our people killed."", suggesting that DeSantis was copying Trump.  By making that argument, you replaced what DeSantis actually said with a false account in order to make the comparison with Trump's travel ban.

In post 26, you said this:  "I simply pointed out there is nothing unique or special about Ron DeSantis.  Every idea he presents as his own is lifted from Trump's proven successes."  Again, you are pushing a falsehood about what DeSantis said.  DeSantis was talking about Gaza refugees, not a travel ban.  In other words, his idea was original compared to Trump since Trump was again offering a travel ban that has nothing to do with Gaza refugees.  To put it bluntly, you lied.  You bore false witness against Ron DeSantis, and then used that false account to prop up Trump by denigrating DeSantis, even though Trump's comment had absolutely zero to do with DeSantis' statement.

Around post 70, you begin posting more Trump campaign propaganda about the just announced travel ban, still completely oblivious to the fact that this thread is about something entirely different, and still carrying on with this false account of what DeSantis said.  After being reminded of this, you said this in post 74:  "I am on topic @libertybele ---- I'm giving you a preview of Ronny's next policy initiatives he'll be claiming are his own."  Again pushing the same false narrative - bearing false witness against Ron DeSantis with the expressed intent of deceiving others.

Which brings us to post 81 where you actually posted a picture of Ron DeSantis saying something he did not say.



This picture is a double lie.  First, it falsely attributes a statement to DeSantis which he never uttered.  And it attributes a travel ban statement to Trump in July when he had literally just said it six days prior.  And when called out on your lie, what do you do?  You lie some more, posting even more Trump campaign propaganda THAT DOESN'T HAVE A DAMN THING TO DO WITH DESANTIS STATEMENT OR THIS THREAD.

And the pièce de résistance comes from @LMAO who showed that even with the false strawman argument you have been clinging to, even in that, DeSantis supported a travel ban before Trump.  So even in the middle of your own lying narrative, you lied.  DeSantis was first with his statement on Gaza refugees.  And DeSantis was first on a travel ban.  It's Trump who doesn't have any original thought here.  Yet after making such a big deal about "original thought", you suddenly go silent in a blazing display of utter hypocrisy.  But that is normal for you.  Lies and hypocrisy.  It's what you are good at.

Keep it up.  Because every time you do this, you drive more people away from Trump.

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Re: DeSantis says US should not accept Gaza refugees: 'They're all antisemitic'
« Reply #142 on: October 18, 2023, 04:53:13 pm »
Keep it up.  Because every time you do this, you drive more people away from Trump.

@Right_in_Virginia have that kind of power?

Is THAT why you're afraid of her @Hoodat

LOL!  You're ridiculous.  What kind of a goober is going to change their vote because RIV pissed them off?
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Re: DeSantis says US should not accept Gaza refugees: 'They're all antisemitic'
« Reply #143 on: October 18, 2023, 04:58:21 pm »
No irony here; only the truth as to what is transpiring.

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The "TRUTH" as *I* see it is that the "true believers" on both sides see THEIR idols as saints,and the opponents of their "Saintly Masters" as infallible "perfect" human beings,never mind Presidential candidates.

The TRUTH is that NO candidate from ANY political party is "Saintly".

I STILL support Trump even though he is far from perfect because he is STILL closer to perfect than any other candidate.

This reason is two-fold.

1: He won't be running for re-election before he is even sworn  in  because  he can  ONLY hold the office of President for ONE 4 year term.

2:His massive ego. He cares more about he gets written about in the history books (The President that Saved America) than he does anything else in the world,and this means he can't be bribed.

Go ahead and call me wrong if you want. I honestly don't give a damn  what any of you think,so I don't need to  read your BS pronouncements.
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Re: DeSantis says US should not accept Gaza refugees: 'They're all antisemitic'
« Reply #144 on: October 18, 2023, 04:59:13 pm »
@Hoodat

Look...there's a difference between believing something to be true and deliberately lying.

You and your butt buddy @Kamaji use it freely (LIAR) because you know it's inflammatory.

And @mystery-ak  and @Cyber Liberty  let you.   :smokin:

Again, can you identify one of these "exaggerations and falsehoods spewed by DeSantis and his campaign" for us?  Or is this simply another instance of you blindly saluting one of RiV's posts without taking a moment to consider what is actually being said?  Why not defend the words of RiV?  If her words aren't a lie, then shut us all up by proving it.
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Re: DeSantis says US should not accept Gaza refugees: 'They're all antisemitic'
« Reply #145 on: October 18, 2023, 05:00:28 pm »
   Similarities abound; Trump and his supporters blow up the GOP and blame someone else.   333cleo

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I know,and the GOP is just soooooooo freaking perfect,too! The FIENDS!

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Re: DeSantis says US should not accept Gaza refugees: 'They're all antisemitic'
« Reply #146 on: October 18, 2023, 05:06:26 pm »
@Right_in_Virginia have that kind of power?

Is THAT why you're afraid of her @Hoodat

LOL!  You're ridiculous.  What kind of a goober is going to change their vote because RIV pissed them off?

No, I actually enjoy it.  I want the world to see the gaping contrast between things that are true and things that Trump sycophants are saying.  It has nothing to do with @Right_in_Virginia pissing people off.  It has to do with the claims that are being made.  Case in point - the topic of this thread.  DeSantis was clear about what he said.  Yet the Trump sycophant in question ignored his words and substituted a false narrative in place of the actual statement.  Who (besides Democrats) does that?  It greatly weakens ones cause to people who believe in integrity and truth.  It's no different from the people upset that Israel intentionally targeted a Gaza hospital killing 500 Palestinians.  Is it true?  Did it happen?  Of course not.  Yet Hamas is putting out this false narrative about what happened.  In the case here, RiV is doing the same thing Hamas does.  In your eyes, does that make her a liar?
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Re: DeSantis says US should not accept Gaza refugees: 'They're all antisemitic'
« Reply #147 on: October 18, 2023, 05:06:56 pm »
Again, can you identify one of these "exaggerations and falsehoods spewed by DeSantis and his campaign" for us?  Or is this simply another instance of you blindly saluting one of RiV's posts without taking a moment to consider what is actually being said?  Why not defend the words of RiV?  If her words aren't a lie, then shut us all up by proving it.

???  You can say she's sorely mistaken...blind to the truth, etc..

But calling her a "LIAR", imo, is a bridge too far. 

That's all...   :shrug:
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Re: DeSantis says US should not accept Gaza refugees: 'They're all antisemitic'
« Reply #148 on: October 18, 2023, 05:07:59 pm »
???  You can say she's sorely mistaken...blind to the truth, etc..

But calling her a "LIAR", imo, is a bridge too far. 

That's all...   :shrug:

Again, can you identify one of these "exaggerations and falsehoods spewed by DeSantis and his campaign" for us?  Or is this simply another instance of you blindly saluting one of RiV's posts without taking a moment to consider what is actually being said?  Why not defend the words of RiV?  If her words aren't a lie, then shut us all up by proving it.

And for the record, I didn't call her a 'liar'.  In accordance with Management's wishes, I have avoided making those claims directly.  In the past I have slipped from time to time, but I still make the effort to comply.  My only previous reference in this thread to the term 'liar' was asking you if you thought RiV was a liar based on her propensity to not only post claims that were untrue but to stand by those claims even after being proven untrue.  I never got a response from you to that question.
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Re: DeSantis says US should not accept Gaza refugees: 'They're all antisemitic'
« Reply #149 on: October 18, 2023, 05:08:34 pm »
DeSantis' state has a decent-sized Jewish constituency.  He doesn't want to $h!t in his own nest by embracing Gaza refugees.

Frankly, the Gazans have brought this upon themselves.  They need to organize vigilante posses to run Hamas out of Gaza permanently.  Hamas and Iran have done Gaza no favors.

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Excellent post!

It SEEMS to me that the Israelis may  have brought this upon themselves by being so dependent on the US coming to their rescue that they dropped their guard.

Does this justify the horrors the ragheads rained  down on them? Not at all. There can NEVER be any  justified attack on another nation that is doing you no harm,and this includes any  "harm" caused by worshiping a different "Holy Spook".

Or  NOT  worshiping ANY  "Holy Spook",AFATG.

I don't give a damn if you worship jelly beans if that is what makes you happy,so long as you don't use warfare as a method to convert the "Non-believers" to your jelly bean faith.

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