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Desperation?  Do you understand the meme?



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Kinda looks like he's training to enter a Gov. Chris Christie look-alike contest,doesn't he?
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Predictable.  Definitely so on FR.  Glad it took this long.  Nice not to be clobbered immediately.

The other thing is rallies <> wins.

It looks impressive but what if those are the only sycophants in the entire state or (gulp) region?

That doesn’t mean there are enough votes to even make Trump win a primary in a state, much less the general against a Dem whom half the nation’s population support, being that they are mostly devoted commies.

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Desperation is never pretty.

I may  be wrong,but this is the first election cycle I can remember where people are claiming massive crowds aren't an indication of voter popularity,and a sign that politician will win the election.

I guess the next thing we will hear from "The Desperate Deniers" is that because only 13 people showed up at a DeSanctimonious that IS proof that HE is going to win.
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   It looks to me like some juvenile $hit that Don Jr created and pawned off on some lackey to post on Trump Social to the gleeful applause of hundreds.
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No one has clobbered you @the OlLine Rebel , least of all me.  I simply pointed out the absurdity of DeSantis supporters insisting pitifully small attendance at his events combined with cratering poll numbers somehow translates into his winning the nomination while large crowds and surging poll numbers translate into defeat for Donald Trump.


Nobody has ever made that claim. Stop with your wild claims.

What were pointing out is the absurdity that, despite huge rallies, how MAGAs  think that translate into a general election win when it’s obvious it doesn’t
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Nobody ever made the claim that Ron DeSantis is popular outside of Florida. Nor have I seen anybody here claim that he’s not trailing Donald Trump in the GOP primary.   

You're not much fun when you support my side of an issue.   :crying:




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MAGAs live in a world of denial. I guess that world is more comfortable than the real one were they are losing elections
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MAGAs live in a world of denial. I guess that world is more comfortable than the real one were they are losing elections

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    Large crowds do not guarantee election, see Trump 2020.

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You're not nearly as much fun when you start arguing my side of an issue.   333cleo

What does this even mean?

I have not seen a single post here that claims DeSantis is really popular with the GOP base and he’s winning in the primary polls

You’re just making things up again.



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    Large crowds do not guarantee election, see Trump 2020.

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Or see Mitt Romney 2012
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MAGAs live in a world of denial. I guess that world is more comfortable than the real one were they are losing elections

 88devil. Here's world class denial ... You think DeSantis will win, yet------


Nobody ever made the claim that Ron DeSantis is popular outside of Florida.
   

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88devil. Here's world class denial ... You think DeSantis will win, yet------

 

I never said he would win the primary. I haven’t even claimed RDS would win the general. But I know Trump and his endorsed candidates can’t  wink777


Again, stop making things up
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At some point, more GOP candidates will find that distancing themselves from Trump will pay off in the general election

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We’re not talking about Ron DeSantis

The statement was that made that Trump is not as popular as his base like to believe he is, and you posted a predictable picture of his rallies completely forgetting that very few voters attend political rallies. I commented on that. I never brought up Ron DeSantis once.

Stay focused, please
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For me, I detest the unforced errors made by Trump just in this run up to 2024, and in general, and these make me wonder if he has learned anything from his first term and subsequent events.

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I cannot recall the Media in an anti-POTUS fervor like this since Nixon. I m sure that has had some effect, but whether that has increased the resolve of his supporters or decreased their numbers, it is hard to say.

For me, I detest the unforced errors made by Trump just in this run up to 2024, and in general, and these make me wonder if he has learned anything from his first term and subsequent events.

I am not encouraged.

The media was also the same way with Reagan. They’ll do that to any republican nominee.

But Trump does give them ammo
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MAGAs live in a world of denial. I guess that world is more comfortable than the real one were they are losing elections

@LMAO

Not a problem. Won't be long before you can tell us what that is like.
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Not a problem. Won't be long before you can tell us what that is like.

And what world of denial am I in? I’m interested in hearing this.
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The media was also the same way with Reagan. They’ll do that to any republican nominee.

But Trump does give them ammo

@LMAO

I agree with you on that one.

It would be much better to take the Reagan approach,and use humor and a laugh to distract them. They just don't know how to deal with that.
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No one has clobbered you @the OlLine Rebel , least of all me.  I simply pointed out the absurdity of DeSantis supporters insisting pitifully small attendance at his events combined with cratering poll numbers somehow translates into his winning the nomination while large crowds and surging poll numbers translate into defeat for Donald Trump.

I see you're another wounded newcomer to TBR ----- another rescue from the torment of FR.  Well, welcome, I certainly hope you feel safe here.  But, please remember: We here have done you no harm, so any chip you may carry on your shoulder should be dropped or at least aimed at TOS.

Thanks  :beer:

Oh boy.  Honestly, it was just a general hyperbolic statement, not directed at you.

I’m ok with debating these things.  I’m used to major blow-back at FR for not thinking Trump does every little thing perfectly (yes, that’s how many “Trumpers” are treated when they stray just one bit), which I certainly don’t.

As stated elsewhere, seeing lots of fanatics at one place does not mean they win the general, which is most important.  It might not even mean winning the primaries.  Looks are deceptive.  If those are the ONLY voters for Trump in the region, he’s in trouble!
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@the OlLine Rebel

Desperation is never pretty.

I may  be wrong,but this is the first election cycle I can remember where people are claiming massive crowds aren't an indication of voter popularity,and a sign that politician will win the election.

I guess the next thing we will hear from "The Desperate Deniers" is that because only 13 people showed up at a DeSanctimonious that IS proof that HE is going to win.

If you need proof, look at Biden.  Won the general, despite all the fun made of his “rallies”.

Which that is another point - even at the time, I could clearly see that they were NOT rallies for Biden, just small intimate press conferences and targeted appearances.  Not at all comparable as to whether “only 15 showed up” vs 50k.  They obviously played the COVID card of being safe with their old man who might die of it, so there was no rally, complete with masks, and socialist distancing.

I’ve not seen yet that DeSantis has tried having a real rally yet.  Not that I expect he’ll get that much fandom.  But the comparisons are apples and oranges.
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As stated elsewhere, seeing lots of fanatics at one place does not mean they win the general, which is most important.  It might not even mean winning the primaries.  Looks are deceptive.  If those are the ONLY voters for Trump in the region, he’s in trouble!

This pointing-up

Nobody is going to deny that Donald Trump can draw quite a crowd and his followers are very passionate for him. But beyond his base, it’s a starkly different world. He barely won election against one of the most disliked politicians in the country and his job approval rating never got to 50% during his tenure


https://news.gallup.com/poll/328637/last-trump-job-approval-average-record-low.aspx
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If you need proof, look at Biden.  Won the general, despite all the fun made of his “rallies”.

 You seriously think that Biden really won the election?
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This pointing-up

Nobody is going to deny that Donald Trump can draw quite a crowd and his followers are very passionate for him. But beyond his base, it’s a starkly different world. He barely won election against one of the most disliked politicians in the country and his job approval rating never got to 50% during his tenure


https://news.gallup.com/poll/328637/last-trump-job-approval-average-record-low.aspx

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 You seriously think that Biden really won the election?

I don’t know.  Biden could have.

And that is the point.  Repubs need to be fraud-proof.  Someone else posted that recently…they have to perform so well there is no chance for fraud to succeed.  Trump only won the electoral vote the first time, NOT the popular, e.g.

The other side of it is to accept reality - lots and lots of AMERICANS, your neighbors, are America-hating commie traitors.  They are the enemy.  Im not talking about mere politicians - I mean the populace.  Half of them hate this country.  I fully believe that.

I go on these fora to get away from my reality of everyone hates Trump, hates GOP, hates USA and loves BLM and LGBT.  It’s good to have some perspective.  In liberalland I can’t afford these fantasies.
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I don’t know.  Biden could have.

And that is the point.  Repubs need to be fraud-proof.  Someone else posted that recently…they have to perform so well there is no chance for fraud to succeed.  Trump only won the electoral vote the first time, NOT the popular, e.g.

The other side of it is to accept reality - lots and lots of AMERICANS, your neighbors, are America-hating commie traitors.  They are the enemy.  Im not talking about mere politicians - I mean the populace.  Half of them hate this country.  I fully believe that.

I go on these fora to get away from my reality of everyone hates Trump, hates GOP, hates USA and loves BLM and LGBT.  It’s good to have some perspective.  In liberalland I can’t afford these fantasies.

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